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Re: First Ever Baker B3 in Manila!!!
« Reply #50 on: June 08, 2007, 03:20:23 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: June 08, 2007, 08:17:38 PM »
Tolits -- I saw more pictures of #55 sa Destroy All Guitars.  Man, that Baker looks so good!  Suwerte ng kaibigan mo, as well as kayong mga kaibigan niya who get to play with it too.

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« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2007, 01:07:31 PM »
Tolits -- I saw more pictures of #55 sa Destroy All Guitars.  Man, that Baker looks so good!  Suwerte ng kaibigan mo, as well as kayong mga kaibigan niya who get to play with it too.
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« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2007, 03:52:17 PM »
Tolits -- I saw more pictures of #55 sa Destroy All Guitars.  Man, that Baker looks so good!  Suwerte ng kaibigan mo, as well as kayong mga kaibigan niya who get to play with it too.

Hehe... swerte ni Arie and Steve! 

Ganda nga... pero ganun ba lahat ng designs ni Baker?  Kung ako magpa-custom ng guitar, it'll be a cross between a Tele (neck, body outline) and a Les Paul (violin carved maple top, 2 HBs... but coil-tapped)...  Actually such a gtr exists: yung Moon Tele na naunahan ako ni Alex bilhin kay Valve a couple of years ago.  Shet!  Ayaw benta ni Alex! 

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Re: First Ever Baker B3 in Manila!!!
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2007, 01:12:17 PM »
Tolits -- I saw more pictures of #55 sa Destroy All Guitars.  Man, that Baker looks so good!  Suwerte ng kaibigan mo, as well as kayong mga kaibigan niya who get to play with it too.

Hehe... swerte ni Arie and Steve! 

Ganda nga... pero ganun ba lahat ng designs ni Baker?  Kung ako magpa-custom ng guitar, it'll be a cross between a Tele (neck, body outline) and a Les Paul (violin carved maple top, 2 HBs... but coil-tapped)...  Actually such a gtr exists: yung Moon Tele na naunahan ako ni Alex bilhin kay Valve a couple of years ago.  Shet!  Ayaw benta ni Alex! 
sounds like you're looking for a G&L ASAT Deluxe (or Deluxe Semi Hollow), a Grosh Bent Top T or a Chapin Fatline TV.  :-D


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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2007, 04:06:14 AM »
ganda!! :-o
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« Reply #56 on: June 11, 2007, 07:46:31 AM »
" Just to clarify: the Moon Tele has a set neck.  Body is maple on mahogany and neck is ebony on maple.   Strat scale.  It also has a carved top with a TOM bridge set-up.  I really would not know if its for blues.  Siguro pwede with the coil taps engaged but I really voiced it more to become a hard rock and modern metal guitar.  It has binding on the body and the neck.  It is colored jet black and it really looks like one of those late 80s Schecters.  Workmanship is top notch and probably this guitar is one of a kind because Moon is known to just make one-offs for guitars.  They are really more known for bass guitars.  Thanks to Eric Reyes for bringing in the guitar to the Philippines and selling it to me.  Though anytime he plans to shift to 6-string guitar for a career, I will gladly sell it back to him upon request. Heh Heh. --- alex"

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Re: First Ever Baker B3 in Manila!!!
« Reply #57 on: June 11, 2007, 08:29:12 AM »
Thanks to Eric Reyes for bringing in the guitar to the Philippines and selling it to me.  Though anytime he plans to shift to 6-string guitar for a career, I will gladly sell it back to him upon request. Heh Heh. --- alex"

*ahem* *ahem*
Baker na lang!  :-D

Di ka nataga sa custom? Teka, wag mo ng sagutin.. marami atang taga custom dito. :-D

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« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2007, 09:23:42 AM »
Thanks to Eric Reyes for bringing in the guitar to the Philippines and selling it to me.  Though anytime he plans to shift to 6-string guitar for a career, I will gladly sell it back to him upon request. Heh Heh. --- alex"

*ahem* *ahem*
Baker na lang!  :-D

Di ka nataga sa custom? Teka, wag mo ng sagutin.. marami atang taga custom dito. :-D

tulad ni QBERT and his clones? hehehe :)
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« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2007, 11:37:15 AM »
btw, tolits... ang hirap basahin nung puro "sabi ng kaibigan ko... na sinang-ayunan naman ng isa ko pang kaibigan na gitarista at kilalalang luthier ng gitara..."   bakit di nilang mag-join uli si Oas sa PhilMusic para sya na magpost ng gears and reviews nya?   mabawasan din yung tendency na ikaw ang sagutin ng ibang nagko-comment dito.  ika nga nila, "Don't shoot the messenger."  :-D

I was expecting this issue to come up.  :-)

He's free to rejoin naman eh.

But it would be funny to see a thread like-

"First Ever Character Banned from the Same Forum Twice in The Philippines"   :-D

I guess we can all benefit from him being circumspect with his posts since he is piggy-backing.

Congrats on the guitar anyways, it's lovely. Nice catch  :-)
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« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2007, 01:55:11 PM »
if i'm not mistaken, may Baker B3 na akong nakita sa stash ng isang guitar collector dito sa Manila.. it probably isn't the first :)

i love the looks of that axe... malinamnam! :)
ian! hahahaha! parang alam ko na kung sinong collector sinasabi mo ah! hehehehe! salamat pala man for taking us to amp heaven!!! kitakits ulit! meron ako idedate dun eh, hehehehe...
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« Reply #61 on: June 20, 2007, 02:10:01 PM »
It is Day 14 with the Baker B3 and I have to say it is a mind blowing experience to be with such a guitar.  People may say that it’s a honeymoon period but as each day goes by, you just start to fall in love with the guitar more and more.  So much so that playing my other guitars just makes it such a bad experience.  I tend to find fault now in my other guitars subconsciously. 

Everything about the Baker B3 Fire Model just feels right.  Underwhelming at first and not exactly the best looking guitar, it rewards you each day with more tone and character that makes you forget about those screaming maple tops.  Slowly, those KSP tops start to look abrasive and NAKAKAUMAY.  Then you start to understand why the classic Bursts are never loud in appearance.  The B3 never distracts your playing with laborious inlays and densely eye popping flame.  Its all done right with a touch of class and playability in mind.  It remains easy on the eyes and the only time you notice the flame is from a non-player angle.    If you still prioritize body style, looks and adornment, its time to grow up.  Because more often than not, the best sounding guitars look ordinary and simple.  If you believe that wood is wood and that companies like Gibson, Fender and PRS use the best wood, then you are in for a surprise.  The wood used on the B3 sings so well that only a chance occurrence Gibson, Fender or PRS guitar may rival it.

Everything is just perfect as you grow into the guitar.  All of the physical aspects feel as if the builder knew what to do with it regardless of specifications or features.  No such thing as customization here because you don’t need it. You easily forget what type of guitar you are playing.  Even though at the back of your mind, you know that this should be a Les Paul type guitar, it makes you forget what it is because you can coax so many sounds out of the pickups.  No personal favorite Paper in Oil Angela Caps or Scalarizers here.  It does fine without them.  Straight out of the box, it is a tone machine with the best ever character I have experienced in an electric guitar. Two loyal Fender friends of mine who have tried the guitar, just don’t care anymore whether they are playing a Fender style guitar because the coil tap is just so sweet and defined.  On clean, I can get an amplified acoustic tone with the volume backed down.  On diverse amps from a Vox AC 30 to a high gain Bogner Uberschall, the guitar just never sounds the same but rather morphs into something new depending on the amp. Again, I reiterate even though it does not look like a pointy death and thrash metal guitar, it will put such guitars into place.  I can demonstrate this on the VHT, Diezel and Bogner.  Moreover because of such a strong body resonance and string vibration, distortion on high gain amps is possible on minimal settings of 7-9 o clock without any overdrive and boost pedals.  On super extreme gain settings and with the Lollars on Full, I can get a certain fuzz feel and timbre which is simply amazing given that there is no fuzz pedal used.  Such sonic versatility and physical perfection makes the guitar blend into the player and as a result, the player is now consumed by his playing.  It never fails to excite each and every time it is picked up.

This guitar has restored my faith in US luthiers.  My humble advice to those who can save or are willing to save, is to forget all else and get one Baker.  At this point in time, at least from the perspective of Destroy All Guitars, Baker, JG and the new Terry Mcinturff Carolina solid bodies are top of the heap among solid body electric guitars.  And I tend to believe it.  Truly, this is crème de la crème.  I believe that less than 1% of the world’s electric guitars will ever achieve this perfect blend of physical playability and killer sound.  I am that impressed and that biased that I rather own 2 or 3 Bakers and be happy the rest of my life without ever feeling the need to madly visit Perfect Pitch during their Handog sales and ever to be intimidated by the selection of guitars in Tom Lee Hong Kong  Main Branch near the Tsim Sha Tsui station in Kowloon.   

Will our local luthiers ever reach this quality?  My honest answer is maybe in the next 20 years.  After all, Gene started making guitars in 1990 and the B3 was launched in 2006.  If you look at his work history and exposure to some of the best luthiers and artist in the industry, then you start to realize that you are paying for his experience and it shows.  Surely, physical beauty is something that he can easily do as demonstrated by his first series of Baker B1 guitars.  However, the B3s just seem more organic and never forced.  The B3s make the player shine and not vice versa.

As of today, I look forward to dispose my guitars and to save up for another Baker.  Considering that he only makes about 30 guitars a year by himself and let us assume that he only has another 20 years of work in him, that is just 600 more guitars for a lucky 600 guitarists in the whole wide world. 

By the way, I am sure you have a question on if such a guitar so great exists, how come so and so does not use the guitar?  Let me quote Cliff: “Many famous players own Bakers but many cannot be photographed with them or seen on stage with them...”  Joe Satriani and Steve Vai are super close friends of Cliff.  I quote Joe Satriani “"Cliff is my tone guru. He knows amps and guitars better than anyone, and I trust his recommendations when it comes to equipment. I've known Cliff since '85 and he's always been on the new frontier with both music and gear. He signed me to Relativity back in '86 and since then has continued to help me develop as a solo artist. Now with DestroyAllGuitars on the web we all have a place to go when we need Cliff's advice!" and a quote from Steve Vai “"I was discovered by Frank Zappa but Cliff Cultreri gave me my chance in the music business and if it was not for his instincts, support and encouragement, it's unlikely I would have had a successful music career. When you hear about music business folk lore you hear the fairy tale stories of the one guy that made a difference but was more or less an unsung hero. Cliff was my guardian angel. After countless refusals from virtually every label, Cliff was the only one to take the chance and release my music, giving me a deal that is to this day unequivocally unprecedented in the music business."  So to naysayers, read between the lines.

Cliff brings to the table 30 years of music industry experience, during which he was responsible for producing and executive producing primarily guitar-driven music. Cliff was responsible for signing and executive producing such artists as Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Alan Holdsworth, Peter Frampton, Warren Haynes and GOV'T Mule, Steve Howe, John McLaughlin, Scott Henderson, Slash's Snakepit, Opeth, Megadeath, C.O.C., Exodus, Anthrax, Slayer, The Cure, My Bloody Valentine, Our Lady Peace, and too many more to mention. During that time, projects involving Cliff had received 18 Grammy Nominations and 27 Gold, Platinum and Multi-Platinum awards. Cliff was also privileged to work alongside of some of the greatest producers in rock history such as Glyn Johns (The Who, Rolling Stones), Andy Johns (Led Zeppelin), Jim Gaines (Stevie Ray Vaughan), Butch Vig (Nirvana), Bob Rock (Metallica), etc... He has been recording guitar driven rock records since 1975 and has thus gathered a wealth of knowledge in that arena. It is this knowledge that he brings to the table to share with all who work with him at DestroyAllGuitars.
Because of his credentials and the Baker Fire#55, I can now safely order guitars WITHOUT ever trying them in person. 

Guitars just got exciting again!!!

Is it worth the expense?

I can personally say yes because it ends the stress of having to keep up with joneses because Gene ensures that his guitars are up to date and yet classic in appeal i.e. Buzz Feiten, Skyway tremolo options, Tone Pros.  It ends having to go to Perfect Pitch Handog Sale and be disappointed by the current offerings i.e. Baker Guitars are handmade by Gene one at a time with a high resale value.  It ends having to keep on worrying what parts to upgrade i.e. Gene alters each hardware and electronic configuration for each guitar depending on the sound of the wood, for example he uses wolfetones, to lollars to dimarzios depending on what best fits the individual guitar.   It ends having to rummage thru tons and tons of classified ads, waste time and deal with character types who want to sell their offerings as the greatest thing on earth i.e. Gene scraps 65% of the premium wood he uses just to find a guitar with character.  It ends having to set-up expensive guitars from the store i.e. Gene personally set ups each guitar before its shipped and his set-up is amazing.  It ends having to struggle with guitars i.e. the guitar does 50% of the work and it takes out 50% off from needing to generate the tone from your hands and makes you more concentrate on note selection and expression.  It ends customization because you forget about features e.g. Gene has this uncanny ability to combine certain features together that actually work so well and naturally together – if you look at the joint of #55 with a 59 neck profile who would have thought of such and yet I have stopped desiring for a neck thru.  Finally, it ends having to use bad sounding guitars. E.g. Gene’s wood is just amazing in response and character.  Least I forget, it ends GAS for a few days…   

If I sound biased -- I am just passionate because it’s really an amazing guitar that I want everybody to wake up from all the commercialism and just buy one for themselves at some point in their life.  This guitar has restored my faith in so called high end luthiers who really want to produce good sounding guitars that Fender, Gibson and PRS forgot about because they were all too busy coming out with gazillion models with gazillion endorsements, gazillion colors and gazillion flames.  In their pursuit of profits, it has taught a generation of guitarists to play with their eyes as opposed to playing what sounds good.  In comparison to these Brands, Gene Baker offers a refreshing perspective and concentrates on delivering on the most elusive trait of all -- good sound.

-- alex

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Re: First Ever Baker B3 in Manila!!!
« Reply #62 on: June 20, 2007, 03:17:34 PM »
nice, long post, Alex. i'm glad you pointed out Terry McInturff guitars. i've used a couple and they sound and look topnotch indeed. congrats again on your B3 purchase :)

i have a question though: why don't you re-register using a different nickname instead? i think boss Jim permitted you to do so as long as there won't be any more of those large-scale flaming threads :)
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Re: First Ever Baker B3 in Manila!!!
« Reply #63 on: June 20, 2007, 03:32:24 PM »
Nice review.

I agree with Poundcake. It sure beats having to post by proxy. :-D

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« Reply #64 on: June 20, 2007, 03:41:10 PM »
I have to agree with alex on this. The b3 is amazing and plays like butter. Id say its on par with my number 1 (the gold one) which is more of the exception than the norm when it comes to les pauls. Alex i didnt wanna support you but now im FRIGGGIN gassing for number 59. Im starting to think its cheap even at that price.

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« Reply #65 on: June 20, 2007, 04:21:39 PM »
Poundcake,

As much as I want to share more,  I have nothing else to share.  You dudes in the U.S. are in a much better position to share about equipment.  In fact, Gene Baker lives in the Arroyo Grande area in California.  I just realized that after all these years of my experience and bias, that I really do not know much.  The B3 just blew me away and the way I view equipment.   I am just sad because I realized that the musical gear situation in Manila is really in a sorry state.

Vhunter,

I look forward to that Baker#59.  At least, my #55 won't be too lonely.  All I can say is just take the plunge and sell all else that you ain't happy with.  Its ironic but the guy who initally pushed the Baker to me was Ken of Ultrasound which for all intents and purposes is a high end shop for amps, who actually owned one of the earlier ones and remains to be his main axe.  Just wished I could have made the plunge much earlier.  Sometimes you just have to put your trust in qualified people regardless of racial and situational bias and disregard your own bias and experience to learn new things.

--alex       

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« Reply #66 on: June 20, 2007, 09:17:02 PM »
nice, long post, Alex. i'm glad you pointed out Terry McInturff guitars. i've used a couple and they sound and look topnotch indeed. congrats again on your B3 purchase :)

i have a question though: why don't you re-register using a different nickname instead? i think boss Jim permitted you to do so as long as there won't be any more of those large-scale flaming threads :)

I can suggest a moniker if he signs up again - oasgomez_luvs_u_all :D
« Last Edit: June 20, 2007, 09:18:29 PM by skunkyfunk »

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« Reply #67 on: June 20, 2007, 10:12:30 PM »
nice review. too bad the guitar's really out of my budget.. and with a guitar like that, i better be good at playing it.. i'm settling for cheap ones.. kahit papaano makakatugtog pa rin ako. hehe. congrats sir alex! i wanna try that out one of these days :)

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« Reply #68 on: June 21, 2007, 04:59:28 AM »
Alex, can you PM me how much you paid for it and information where and how to order it.  thanks.
I see the B1s are very affordable ... wonder how it sounds and play. Your B3 has that hybrid combination of an LP and superstrat look to it.
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« Reply #69 on: June 21, 2007, 06:01:05 AM »
loved the review, its as if i was the one playing the guitar....

congrats to you with your new guitar

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« Reply #70 on: June 21, 2007, 06:31:33 AM »
I have to agree with alex on this. The b3 is amazing and plays like butter. Id say its on par with my number 1 (the gold one) which is more of the exception than the norm when it comes to les pauls. Alex i didnt wanna support you but now im FRIGGGIN gassing for number 59. Im starting to think its cheap even at that price.

Go for #59 vhunter!!!  Sabi nga ni Cliff, it was based on his specs and his choice of woods.  'Love the darkburst color.

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« Reply #71 on: June 21, 2007, 07:16:31 AM »
nice, long post, Alex. i'm glad you pointed out Terry McInturff guitars. i've used a couple and they sound and look topnotch indeed. congrats again on your B3 purchase :)

i have a question though: why don't you re-register using a different nickname instead? i think boss Jim permitted you to do so as long as there won't be any more of those large-scale flaming threads :)

I can suggest a moniker if he signs up again - oasgomez_luvs_u_all :D

hehe.. sounds heavily infused with psychedelia :lol:

patay tayo dyan Phil, looks like you're targeting a new guitar again. what happened to your Carvin loyalism? the CT6M models are waiting for you at the Carvin factory outlet along Sunset Strip :)
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« Reply #72 on: June 21, 2007, 07:47:35 AM »
nice, long post, Alex. i'm glad you pointed out Terry McInturff guitars. i've used a couple and they sound and look topnotch indeed. congrats again on your B3 purchase :)

i have a question though: why don't you re-register using a different nickname instead? i think boss Jim permitted you to do so as long as there won't be any more of those large-scale flaming threads :)

+1 on the TM guitars. they are really good. I think Ed Roman guitars in Vegas still has them in stock in addition to a few nice luthier lines. I haven't been there in years but if I know Roman's place, he's still pushing the likes of TM and Baker as part of his stock.
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« Reply #73 on: June 21, 2007, 08:07:27 AM »
nice, long post, Alex. i'm glad you pointed out Terry McInturff guitars. i've used a couple and they sound and look topnotch indeed. congrats again on your B3 purchase :)

i have a question though: why don't you re-register using a different nickname instead? i think boss Jim permitted you to do so as long as there won't be any more of those large-scale flaming threads :)

I can suggest a moniker if he signs up again - oasgomez_luvs_u_all :D

hehe.. sounds heavily infused with psychedelia :lol:

patay tayo dyan Phil, looks like you're targeting a new guitar again. what happened to your Carvin loyalism? the CT6M models are waiting for you at the Carvin factory outlet along Sunset Strip :)
hahaha!!! The Carvin guitars are nice....pero they never really attracted me enough to buy one. I was really attracted to Carvin's tube amps....slowly getting rid of it though. The only Carvin that I will retain is the Legacy. You know how it is... your taste changes. I'm still getting a real tweed amp. A "Baker and Fuchs" would be an ideal combination. ....... nakupo!!! BUT I need to try out the Baker......cosmetically...it doesn't REALLY attract me....maybe I might change my mind when I play it. Scott Lerner has a B1 I think and it sounds phenomenal with his Fuchs.  :-D
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« Reply #74 on: June 21, 2007, 08:52:34 AM »
nice, long post, Alex. i'm glad you pointed out Terry McInturff guitars. i've used a couple and they sound and look topnotch indeed. congrats again on your B3 purchase :)

i have a question though: why don't you re-register using a different nickname instead? i think boss Jim permitted you to do so as long as there won't be any more of those large-scale flaming threads :)

+1 on the TM guitars. they are really good. I think Ed Roman guitars in Vegas still has them in stock in addition to a few nice luthier lines. I haven't been there in years but if I know Roman's place, he's still pushing the likes of TM and Baker as part of his stock.



The Bakers from ed roman are MIJ ata...  hindi ata si Gene ang gumawa nun mga yon :-)