Author Topic: Sikat = Pop = Baduy? Agree? (Read 28594 times)

daemonite · « **Reply #50 on:** September 13, 2007, 12:52:28 AM »

I'm speaking of sikat in general here, not sikat as in sikat lang sa rockers. Yes, up dharma, udub, dicta license and the others are sikat...to us who really knows music, and to those who don't? Shall we call them baduy dahil we don't share the same tastes?

Think....

Tama ang mga sagot nila na it varies talaga from person to person, or even, group of persons, but shall we prejudice others who have a different taste?

Like sabi ni jasonsteele sa kabilang thread, avril is a trying hard punk rocker- alanis wannabe, but to her fans, do they think the same? I think not.

jasonsteele99 · « **Reply #51 on:** September 13, 2007, 09:25:14 AM »

Quote from: daemonite on September 13, 2007, 12:52:28 AM

I'm speaking of sikat in general here, not sikat as in sikat lang sa rockers. Yes, up dharma, udub, dicta license and the others are sikat...to us who really knows music, and to those who don't? Shall we call them baduy dahil we don't share the same tastes?

Think....

Tama ang mga sagot nila na it varies talaga from person to person, or even, group of persons, but shall we prejudice others who have a different taste?

Like sabi ni jasonsteele sa kabilang thread, avril is a trying hard punk rocker- alanis wannabe, but to her fans, do they think the same? I think not.

Got me there huh?

You are right.

cookie taylo · « **Reply #52 on:** September 13, 2007, 03:17:51 PM »

april boy.....d ko talaga gets!!!!

Mustspit · « **Reply #53 on:** September 13, 2007, 06:46:11 PM »

sabi ko karamihan ng mga BANDA ngayon ay baduy.. pero i'm not saying na lahat sila.. yung mga nabanggit ni jasonsteele99 agree ako na hindi yan mga sikat na baduy.. sikat sila dahil magaling!

para sakin mga baduy na banda ngayon ay

CUESHE, SPONGECOLA, 6CYCLEMIND, CALLA LILY, 1017, FRIO,
basta karamihan sa POP ROCK.. uber sila sa kabaduyan....

daemonite · « **Reply #54 on:** September 14, 2007, 04:49:09 PM »

Quote from: Mustspit on September 13, 2007, 06:46:11 PM

basta karamihan sa POP ROCK.. uber sila sa kabaduyan....

Eto yung sinasabi ko na prejudice, pero syempre, opinion mo yan, i would respect it. Pero paano kung sinabi ko sa harap mo na POP ROCK rin ang banda ko. would you say i'm baduy? Would it be a sin to you na gustong-gusto ko na nakiki-jive ang LAHAT ng audience ko kapag tumutugtog ako? Hindi lang mga rockers, hindi lang mga teenagers. LAHAT.

Would you say rin ba na ang Imago is baduy dahil pop rock sila? Barbie Almalbis writes great songs along with Rivermaya pero would you say baduy sila?

Questions, questions...

Mustspit · « **Reply #55 on:** September 16, 2007, 04:18:57 PM »

dude, sinabi ko lang na "karamihan" sa pop-rock ay baduy pero NOT all..
hindi ko naman gineralized ... yung mga sinabi ko na baduy ay
yung mga laging nasa radio, mtv, magazines at o.a na banda like CUESHE, SPONGECOLA, 6CYCLEMIND, CALLA LILY, 1017, FRIO,

walang masama sa pagiging pop/rock band..
wag lang yung mga tipong boyband na may pagkanovelty na pacute ahaha..

cookie taylo · « **Reply #56 on:** September 17, 2007, 02:58:39 AM »

daemonite · « **Reply #57 on:** September 17, 2007, 10:54:53 AM »

Quote from: Mustspit on September 16, 2007, 04:18:57 PM

dude, sinabi ko lang na "karamihan" sa pop-rock ay baduy pero NOT all..
hindi ko naman gineralized ... yung mga sinabi ko na baduy ay
yung mga laging nasa radio, mtv, magazines at o.a na banda like CUESHE, SPONGECOLA, 6CYCLEMIND, CALLA LILY, 1017, FRIO,

walang masama sa pagiging pop/rock band..
wag lang yung mga tipong boyband na may pagkanovelty na pacute ahaha..

Alam mo ba kung bakit ganyan ang music nila? Do you see how an artist is made? Sometimes hindi niyo nakikita na masakit sa loob ng mga artist na tugtugin yung mga di nila gusto na songs pero they don't have a choice kasi yun ang gusto ng label, and yung iba, pa-kunswelo na lang nila ang kasikatan nila. It's really hard kaya andami nagi-independent dyan.

As you said, walang masama, pero why do you still prejudice them?

Mustspit · « **Reply #58 on:** September 17, 2007, 02:09:22 PM »

alam ko na yung mga ibang banda eh pinapamellow down ng mga label nila
para maging mabenta sa masa at sumikat..kasi pop/rock ang pinapasikat ng mga
radio stations, mtv, mags.. etc..i just hate bands na minention ko kasi pacute ang kanilang puhunan.. hindi ako galit sa genreng pop/rock.. sinabi ko lang na "karamihan" ay nagiging baduy na... wala akong galit sa genreng pop/rock..i like rock.& i do also like pop it depends lang sa artist.. peace! ^^

insultedgamer · « **Reply #59 on:** September 18, 2007, 07:57:31 PM »

Minsan. di mo na makikita yung talagang genre ng isang artist.

bhenard · « **Reply #60 on:** September 22, 2007, 06:31:14 AM »

magkape muna tayo....medyo umiinit ang topic dito!

basta lahat yan kababayan natin mga dude....peace tayo

insultedgamer · « **Reply #61 on:** September 25, 2007, 06:51:31 PM »

Kape? Let's jump to Food Trip Forum.

maxi_musikero · « **Reply #62 on:** September 26, 2007, 08:49:00 PM »

hirap tlga pag may prejudices dba?

sometimes people take the phrase "you can't please everybody" to a very high and different level. to the point na may panlalait na.

and napapansin ko lang, parang sa mga rockers usually nanggaling ung mga panlalait sa pop rock or pogi rock groups (peace sa mga rockers...baka ako naman ang pag-initan. hehehe!) bkit kaya gnun?

let's advocate MUSICAL FREEDOM guys...

matanglawin · « **Reply #63 on:** September 28, 2007, 05:41:18 AM »

Not necessarily. Pop, if we are to be strict with the definition, means popular. In my opinion, pop shouldn't be a genre at all, because there are songs categorized first as alternative that becomes popular. Do we star calling those songs as "pop?"

On the flipside, there are "baduy" songs that never become popular (don't ask which, I can't remember them at all).

It all boils down on preference. If you like baduy songs, then you like it. If you don't then you don't. But what are we really saying or asking here?

I think it's more of "why are those baduy songs more popular" than the "really good and better songs" out there. We can always say to each his own, but for me, there is a certain limit to whu a song is popular in the first place. Is it popular because it's a really good song, or is it because it is formulated to be a pop song?

Ocho ocho comes to mind once again...

insultedgamer · « **Reply #64 on:** September 28, 2007, 06:46:49 PM »

Talaga ba na "Popular" ang meaning ng "Pop"?

matanglawin · « **Reply #65 on:** September 28, 2007, 06:53:12 PM »

Quote from: insultedgamer on September 28, 2007, 06:46:49 PM

Talaga ba na "Popular" ang meaning ng "Pop"?

Why, of course. What did you think it meant?

insultedgamer · « **Reply #66 on:** October 01, 2007, 07:18:27 PM »

Wag ka magalit. Sa tingin ko? Wala akong maisip eh. Pero kung talaga ngang...ang kahulugan ng Pop ay Popular...bakit yan naging genre? Para rin syang Indie ng Individual eh.

daemonite · « **Reply #67 on:** October 02, 2007, 09:54:30 AM »

Indie is Independent, not individual. They call it indie kasi may freedom sila na gumawa ng music na hindi nasasakal sa labels. Yes, pareho sila ng situation ng Pop, kung ang pop ay hindi dapat i-consider na genre so is indie....

ninejuicyjulius · « **Reply #68 on:** October 06, 2007, 12:59:31 AM »

hindi porket sikat o pop, baduy na. buksan ang puso at isipaaaaannnn...

yun lang.

daemonite · « **Reply #69 on:** October 06, 2007, 04:48:02 AM »

Quote from: ninejuicyjulius on October 06, 2007, 12:59:31 AM

hindi porket sikat o pop, baduy na. buksan ang puso at isipaaaaannnn...
yun lang.

It's not being closed-minded or anything. Napapansin ko kasi, either sa real life like sa mga gigs and battles, and even dito sa forums, na porke pop ka, baduy ka na sa paningin ng mga heavier sounding fans. Tipong, "yeah i'm punk / metal / prog, you're baduy coz you're pop, you follow trend", style. Nakakainis eh. We pour our hearts in making songs that even a 3 year old can sing to, tapos ganon ang prejudice sa amin. Masama bang maghangad na ang unang kanta na maririnig ng tao sa paggising eh ang kanta mo? And make their day brighter by your songs? Tell me, ain't that the same as the rage being released by hearing metal / punk songs?

ninejuicyjulius · « **Reply #70 on:** October 06, 2007, 12:25:19 PM »

kase may stigma rin yung pop bilang genre. parang ang presumption, ang pop ay para sa mga walang mga sariling isip. parang kung ano lang ang ihain sa kanila, yun na lang ang kakainin nila sa maghapon. kaya ang nangyayari, mejo mababa ang tingin sa pop. parang kapag nakikinig ka ng kung anu man ang nasa playlist ng Love Radio, jologs ka. samantalang pag nakikinig ka ng kung sino mang hyper obscure artists, ASTIG ka na. it all boils down kung ano talaga ang nasa puso ng mga listeners. kung makikinig ka ng avant garde music dahil lang gusto mong maging astig, wala ring pinagkaiba yun sa mga sabay sa agos.

at saka subjective naman ang word na "baduy." relatibo din ang salitang "pop." yun pop at baduy ngayon, pwedeng hindi na in the following years. ang Beatles, pop. sabi ng iba baduy. sabi ng marami, nasa lebel sila nina Mozart at Beethoven.

at sa tingin ko, sa huli, marami pa din talaga ang mga makikitid ang utak.

pis.

pamoso · « **Reply #71 on:** October 07, 2007, 10:55:08 AM »

Ewan ko ha pero parang ganito eh, di naman lahat ng pop (or I mean sikat) eh baduy pero once na malaman na sya ng buong pilipinas pati ng nagtitinda ng isda eh ang claim na is baduy sya. I see that sa friends ko, nagagandahan ako sa melody pero dahil may songhits ang maid nila at kinakanta to, ayaw daw nila dahil baduy! especially pag tagalog yung song..
part na ng human nature natin yang mga pinoy, yung iba kc ayaw nilang ilevel yung sarili nila sa like tingin nila is mas mababa sa kanila..and ang result maghahanap sila ng di masyado pinapansin-feeling unique. Syempre mas malaking percent ang pinoys na hopeless romantics..

in fairness naman sa nagsasabing baduy ang callalily and spongecola..
gusto ko ung intro ng magbalik..and yung revival ng nakapagtataka...

Quote from: Mustspit on September 17, 2007, 02:09:22 PM

alam ko na yung mga ibang banda eh pinapamellow down ng mga label nila
para maging mabenta sa masa at sumikat..kasi pop/rock ang pinapasikat ng mga
radio stations, mtv, mags.. etc..i just hate bands na minention ko kasi pacute ang kanilang puhunan.. hindi ako galit sa genreng pop/rock.. sinabi ko lang na "karamihan" ay nagiging baduy na... wala akong galit sa genreng pop/rock..i like rock.& i do also like pop it depends lang sa artist.. peace! ^^

can you name those bands/artists na pinopoint mo?

ninejuicyjulius · « **Reply #72 on:** October 07, 2007, 11:05:59 AM »

at isa pa. wag nating kalilimutan na ang pop scene ay bahagi pa rin ng music business. business. business. kailangang bumenta sa nakararami. at kapag ito ang priority, maging basura man ang lyrics o arrangement, ripped off man o revived, wala na silang pakialam. basta bumenta, tapos.

matanglawin · « **Reply #73 on:** October 07, 2007, 03:22:13 PM »

Quote from: insultedgamer on October 01, 2007, 07:18:27 PM

Wag ka magalit. Sa tingin ko? Wala akong maisip eh. Pero kung talaga ngang...ang kahulugan ng Pop ay Popular...bakit yan naging genre? Para rin syang Indie ng Individual eh.

I don't know where in my post I indicated I am angry. Really. But, to take a whack at your statement, kung wala ka palang maisip, why bother?

You made a double whammie. Indie means INDEPENDENT. Pop means POPULAR, as in the popular genre, to which most songs that are "easy" to listen to are categorized. That's why I intimated that is SHOULDN'T be a genre to begin with since ANY song can become popular if ENOUGH people listen to it.

Nowadays, when you say pop, people immediately think Britney or BackStreet Boys, when it shouldn't really be the case.

lil.drummerboy · « **Reply #74 on:** October 14, 2007, 03:39:32 AM »

ang masasabi ko lang kanya kanyang pananaw lang yan kung baduy o hindi. depende yan sa tao at sa paniniwala nila. kung tingin nya baduy eh di baduy.. wala ka magagawa dun kahit ano pa pag pilitan mo sa kanya.. pero kung sa tingin nya hindi baduy.. eh di hindi baduy.. ganun lang yun.. para sakin lang yun..

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Author Topic: Sikat = Pop = Baduy? Agree? (Read 28594 times)

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