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« Reply #100 on: February 09, 2008, 03:12:38 PM »
for insultedgamer,

pop(popular)= oo pwede rin syang maging status ng music,just your proper adjective,

pop=music na catchy,.easy listening,

e2 ba gusto mo sabihin?
 


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« Reply #101 on: February 09, 2008, 03:17:39 PM »

i got your idea,.pero di ko talaga maexplain eh,. mas feel ko ang music na ginagawa noong mga bands noong 90's,.para bang napaka honest and just plain rock n' roll!

yea. simple lang mga tugtog dati pero jangas! at kung tutuusin hindi pa ganoon ka focused ang banda sa genre. basta makagawa ng magandang kanta ayos na. :D anyways medyo OT na to. hehe. tama si tagagapo  :lol:
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« Reply #102 on: February 09, 2008, 10:35:54 PM »
Di'ba parang status lang din ng kanta yun?  :?

POPular...................................................... :|

Music genre na pala ang pagiging sikat?  :?

Sa totoo lang mangmang ako sa musika, pero ano talaga eh. :-(

Ano eh :|

Ano eh  :|

Amf!! :|

kumusta ang METAL? bakal? eh yung BLUES? mga asul?  :-D
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« Reply #103 on: February 10, 2008, 02:03:32 AM »
kumusta ang METAL? bakal? eh yung BLUES? mga asul?  :-D

Teka, bakit muna metal?  :?

Di'ba dahil mabigat yung tunog.

Bakit Asul or Blues?  :?

Di'ba dahil "blue" or sad or lonely yung tunog.

Eh ang pagiging sikat ba may tunog?
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« Reply #104 on: February 10, 2008, 06:19:51 PM »
Teka, bakit muna metal?  :?

Di'ba dahil mabigat yung tunog.

Bakit Asul or Blues?  :?

Di'ba dahil "blue" or sad or lonely yung tunog.

Eh ang pagiging sikat ba may tunog?

o sige bakit reggae ang reggae? eh ang punk bakit punk? eh yung classical bakit classical?  :-D

kasi ganito. sa tingin ko lang ha. yung pop kasi, sa sobrang lawak, wala siyang signature sound. ang nakikita ko lang sa pop, madalas meron silang tinatawag na 'hooks' o yung tipo ng melody na sisiksik talaga sa utak mo kahit anong gawin mo. halo halo kumbaga. anything na pinapatugtog sa mainstream radio at alam ng karamihan, babagsak na agad sa genre na Pop.

boom tarat tarat, willie revillame - novelty pop
pare ko, eraserheads - rock/alternative pop
macarena, los trios - dance pop
to love you more, sarah geronimo - pop love song

and the list goes on and on. ganyan ka-diverse ang pop bilang genre. at saka hindi naman laging literal ang labels na ginagamit natin. naging convenient lang talagang tawaging POP ang POPULAR MUSIC kasi nga POPULAR. aktwali, nagbabago din ang konteksto ng POP MUSIC. yung pop music ngayon, pwedeng hindi na siya pop 20 years from now.

nalikha ang genres para may kaayusan. di ba pag bumibili ka ng CD sa record stores, madaling hanapin ang hinahanap mo di ba? kasi nga may categories. genre.

ayun.  :-D
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« Reply #105 on: February 11, 2008, 11:24:08 AM »
Thanks guys, i'm seeing the topic's relevance now.

And yes, contrary to what i've said before. This thread is an eye opener for those prejudiced "rockers" who find the pop genre baduy na ang alam lang na klase ng music sa mundo ay metal or deeper. Being a musician, how heavy or light your music is, you have to be diverse in your craft, you don't only listen to one genre or the genres you only like, because sometimes, even though it's kinda weird, you get some inspirations from songs you don't like. the L.S.S. (Last Song Syndrome) is one of the things that influences what i'm talking about.
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« Reply #106 on: February 11, 2008, 01:49:26 PM »
o sige bakit reggae ang reggae? eh ang punk bakit punk? eh yung classical bakit classical?  :-D

kasi ganito. sa tingin ko lang ha. yung pop kasi, sa sobrang lawak, wala siyang signature sound. ang nakikita ko lang sa pop, madalas meron silang tinatawag na 'hooks' o yung tipo ng melody na sisiksik talaga sa utak mo kahit anong gawin mo. halo halo kumbaga. anything na pinapatugtog sa mainstream radio at alam ng karamihan, babagsak na agad sa genre na Pop.

boom tarat tarat, willie revillame - novelty pop
pare ko, eraserheads - rock/alternative pop
macarena, los trios - dance pop
to love you more, sarah geronimo - pop love song

and the list goes on and on. ganyan ka-diverse ang pop bilang genre. at saka hindi naman laging literal ang labels na ginagamit natin. naging convenient lang talagang tawaging POP ang POPULAR MUSIC kasi nga POPULAR. aktwali, nagbabago din ang konteksto ng POP MUSIC. yung pop music ngayon, pwedeng hindi na siya pop 20 years from now.

nalikha ang genres para may kaayusan. di ba pag bumibili ka ng CD sa record stores, madaling hanapin ang hinahanap mo di ba? kasi nga may categories. genre.

ayun.  :-D

sakto sir!

pop is the music that majority of the people in the world listens to,kasi nga napaka easy listening and catchy!

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« Reply #107 on: February 11, 2008, 05:14:26 PM »
ang kabaduyan ay nasa tenga ng nakikinig.

you cannot please everybody.

siguro ang sagot dito. respetuhin nalang natin ang taste ng isat isa.

kaya sorry sa mga emo ah. minsan kasi hindi ko kayo maintindihan! haha.
hindi ko makilala kung sino ang mga EMO talaga at kung sino nagprepretend lang.

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« Reply #108 on: February 11, 2008, 05:37:41 PM »
ang kabaduyan ay nasa tenga ng nakikinig.

you cannot please everybody.

siguro ang sagot dito. respetuhin nalang natin ang taste ng isat isa.

kaya sorry sa mga emo ah. minsan kasi hindi ko kayo maintindihan! haha.
hindi ko makilala kung sino ang mga EMO talaga at kung sino nagprepretend lang.



makikita mo yan kapag laos na ang emo sa mainstream(or i mean laos na as a household name sa ngayon),.

yung mga taong natira at ganun parin ang hilig sa emo ayun ang mga totoo,.

yung mga poser ngayon at nakikiuso lang ay surely mawawala at makikiuso na naman sa bagong trend after ng emo.

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« Reply #109 on: February 11, 2008, 09:29:12 PM »
sakto sir!

pop is the music that majority of the people in the world listens to,kasi nga napaka easy listening and catchy!

ay tsong wag naman "majority of people in the world." kasi baka di kilala ni Paul Mccartney si Lito Camo.  :-D

depende rin sa konteksto ng bawat lipunan ang pop music.
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« Reply #110 on: February 12, 2008, 09:51:57 AM »
IMHO, if you don't respect pop, hipocrite ka. period.

now if you don't like pop and call it "baduy", quite frankly, who gives a crap? its your opinion.

the thing is, you can respect pop and still call it baduy. yes, you can. because some pop can never be called baduy and most pop can be called baduy.

now if you feel that you need to defend your taste in music from "biased / closed minded rockers" , no offense man, but that's just a bit insecure.




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« Reply #111 on: February 12, 2008, 10:27:42 AM »
IMHO, if you don't respect pop, hipocrite ka. period.

now if you don't like pop and call it "baduy", quite frankly, who gives a crap? its your opinion.

the thing is, you can respect pop and still call it baduy. yes, you can. because some pop can never be called baduy and most pop can be called baduy.

now if you feel that you need to defend your taste in music from "biased / closed minded rockers" , no offense man, but that's just a bit insecure.


Well then, if i'm insecure, then i call all the metal biased rockers who keeps on complaining that they don't get much radio airplay and burst it out on pop insecure too. And FYI. besides from playing pop, i also play hardcore to metal when i session so i guess that takes care of my insecurity. I just speak for those high school kids who dream big but doesn't have the right music but pop.

Honestly, tabla-tabla lang yan. If it's a matter of opinion, then it's stalemate. no need to bash people.

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« Reply #112 on: February 12, 2008, 11:21:23 AM »
nah, dude, im chill.  :-)
isipin mo nalang, for all our squabbling, at the end we will come out better people as long as we don't take things personally.

and i really don't intend to bash anyone, not you, not pop. i left my ignorance in highschool.

i think valid rin naman yung gripe ng not just metal, but other forms of music as a whole. i'm sure you know that maraming magagaling na blues and soul bands dito who don't get a chance at all because the labels only want pop. its not because insecure sila, they rant because people don't take risks, people dont give them the chance to be heard when kitang-kita naman sa abroad na PWEDENG kumita ang iba't-ibang forms of music mabigyan lang ng chance. sinosikat had their final mixes altered by their label to be more "pop". its not because of insecurity.

dito sa pilipinas maraming baduy na pop. (my opinion)   and pop rules the airwaves. (fact)    its an inevitable occurence that people will want something other than pop. most will be content with pop.

tama ka, this thread boils down to a matter of opinion specially when you have terms that can be interpreted in different ways.

so ayun naman pala e, if you're not insecure about your taste in music, wag mo nalang pansinin yung mga "metal dapat koya!" at mga "sellout sellout dapat rakizta koya!" who may or may not realize na medyo mali yung mentality nila. some people don't know any better.

and once again, i'm a lover of pop music, metal, rock...music in general. i like the spice girls, toto, erasure, the deftones, tool, protest the hero, etc.

Sikat = Pop = Baduy? Disagree. Disproven. Case closed?

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« Reply #113 on: February 15, 2008, 11:59:39 AM »

makikita mo yan kapag laos na ang emo sa mainstream(or i mean laos na as a household name sa ngayon),.

yung mga taong natira at ganun parin ang hilig sa emo ayun ang mga totoo,.

yung mga poser ngayon at nakikiuso lang ay surely mawawala at makikiuso na naman sa bagong trend after ng emo.
kumbaga ba eh kahit laos na spandex nagsusuot pa rin si Malmsteen? :-D
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« Reply #114 on: February 24, 2008, 11:12:10 PM »
just my 2 cents..

but i see the band's true craft during live performances because that's the time when i see them really perform. not just show off.

i dunno. i just think that sikat man or underground, it's the musician's craft that matters.

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« Reply #115 on: March 21, 2008, 03:30:40 AM »
sikat man o hindi,, baduy man o mejo baduy,,anjan na yan..nsa radyo na yan at kahit san ka magpunta madidinig mo yan. wla na tayo magagawa jan,,magsulat na lang kyo ng maraming piyesa at baka sakaling yung inyo naman ang umere sa radyo at nang mapalitan naman yung mga baduy songs na sinasabi ninyo. sa ngyon, relax lng muna kayo. :mrgreen: :-D

eto lang yan eh...    " inggitan"   :evil: at baguhin yan sa sistema naten...
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« Reply #116 on: March 21, 2008, 04:03:51 AM »
i think basta gusto mo ginagawa mo,ok yun,.

kung underground talaga ang tunog mo,.dun ka

kung po ang trip mo,.dun ka

basta all for the sake of music!

nakakaasar lang kasi yung mga commercial artist ngayon na ginagawa na lang negosyo yung music,.minsan kahit covers na lang ginagawa nila,.paulit ulit na lang


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« Reply #117 on: March 21, 2008, 05:22:46 AM »
relax lang po,,hindi naman lahat na lang ng sisikat at laging nadidinig s radio ay BADUY na. respetuhin naman natin yung iba kasi pinaghirapan din nila iyon bago nila narating yon.  :mrgreen:   yung iba naman na sa tingin mo e nanggagaya lang..wa na tayo magagawa sa kanila. yaan mo na... :-D
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« Reply #118 on: March 21, 2008, 09:08:27 AM »
Medyo correct yan. Pero di baduy, its all a matter of taste and preference.
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« Reply #119 on: March 21, 2008, 09:28:39 AM »
to topic:

sikat= means popular or madami nakakilala sayo,hindi man musically,.pwede socially,.politically or your just a noble person


pop=popular music,.music na catchy,easy listening,.and the most radio-friendly sa lahat ng music genre(including all pop sub genre i.e pop rock,.pop punk,.)


baduy= (for me no straight definition) yung listener ang magsasabi kung anu ang baduy sa kanya  8-)

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« Reply #120 on: March 21, 2008, 01:38:53 PM »
parang paikot ikot na ang usapan.  :-D
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« Reply #121 on: March 22, 2008, 11:34:08 AM »
sinosipop?
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« Reply #122 on: March 22, 2008, 10:05:29 PM »
parang paikot ikot na ang usapan.  :-D

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« Reply #123 on: March 22, 2008, 11:24:31 PM »
parang paikot ikot na ang usapan.  :-D



cge ser, tapusin mo na..bigay ka n ng ending para jan :-D :-)
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« Reply #124 on: March 23, 2008, 12:09:37 AM »


cge ser, tapusin mo na..bigay ka n ng ending para jan :-D :-)

may conclusion na dati pa eh. rewind kayo.

pero sige lang. tuloy lang ang inputs para masaya.  :-D
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