Drum Mics / Drum Micing Thread

[peeves24]

Mga sirs, ano the best EQ settings para sa drums ko....nkabili kasi ako ng Shure Drum Kit (7 mics) bale alam naman natin yung settings para sa Bass Drum Mic na more on Low freq sa mixer EQ.... suggest naman kayo sir kung anong the best settings para sa snare mic,tom1 mic,tom2 mic,floor tom mic and syempre sa 2 phantom power mics na naka angat para sa mga cymbals, yung settings ko kasi pachambahan lang, masyado matinning sakit sa tenga hehehehe....tnx po mga sirs

maybe its not your eq. the #1 problem is always the room especially for churches where there are no acoustic treatments at all.


the best eq for drums are:

1. having the best possible tuning on your drums with fresh heads and has the best cymbals you can buy
2. good room acoustics

no amount of board tweaking will ever come close to that

[ishen006]

agree ako kay sir peeves.,
mas mganda kung flat mix lang yung mga mics,Shure naman e,,cguro kelangan nyong palitan yung heads ng drums,

[Sound-Weavers.com]

just want to share drum micing shootout: joey jordison, GMS, TAKEN snares 

enjoy

[cs_mapper]

nice! dami ko natutuhan dito.

nung kapanahunan ko sa drum woodshedding (1990's) eh gamit ko lang ay isang
sony or marantz tape deck and some dynamic and condenser mics.
kailangan ko lang kasi marinig sarili ko at ang banda ko kung
maayos na kami tumugtog kaya ok na ok na ganitong simpleng set-up very clear naman yung sound kahit syempre di tlga studio quality LoL!
eventually nagka mixer ako na may 12 mic inputs ata na di ko rin nagamit ng husto
kasi nai-swap ko ng mga zildjian and paiste cymbals.
during gigs naman eh walkman lang gamit ko pra marecord ang gig
kung ayaw ako pagbigyan nung sound-technician na record ang set namin.

super good idea ang record ang sarili at ang grupo kasi dyan
malalaman tlga kung may improvement at mairecord for prosperity yung mga sparking spontaneous creative moments hehe!

Lately I want to record myself again but my super old tape deck is busted already
bukod sa ayoko ko na rin gumamit ng mga cassette tapes hehe.
Baka try ko muna gamitin tong sony digicam ko baka pwede magican using some
audio editing software to compress the sound a little para di masyadong sabog.

[jmdesign]

Sample using DR1

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[mokie]

help guys, ano kayang magandang recording device ang maganda pa marecord ko and drums, sa mga response dito sa thread na to mukhang mahirap kasi kung gagamit pa ko ng mics. suggest naman po kayo kung ano ang magandang pangrecord. ngayon ay merong zoom h4(h4 ata yun) sa JB music, ok ba ito? comments naman mga sir, thanks!

[pmack]

help guys, ano kayang magandang recording device ang maganda pa marecord ko and drums, sa mga response dito sa thread na to mukhang mahirap kasi kung gagamit pa ko ng mics. suggest naman po kayo kung ano ang magandang pangrecord. ngayon ay merong zoom h4(h4 ata yun) sa JB music, ok ba ito? comments naman mga sir, thanks!

@mokie

mahirap magrecord ng kahit anong bagay without using mics. in fact, it's impossible to record any sound without mics.
even your zoom h4 merong pair of mics. 

to answer you question, isipipn mo, ano ba gusto mong makamit?
gusto mo ba ng magandang drum tracks na broadcast worthy na or gusto mo lang ng way para mapakinggan yung sarili mo while practicing/gigging?

if gusto mo lang mapakinggan sarili mo, then your zoomh4 is enough.
kung gusto mo naman ng mas mataas na quality ng audio, like for example, demo/cd quality, then there is no other way than to use at least 2-4 mics (+mixer/interface).

pero like what peeves said, nakaka-addict itong drum recording, hehehe. isa rin ako sa mga biktima nito.

P.S. nasubukan ko yung zoomh4 nung kabanda ko, actually im impressed sa quality ng sound niya. hindi lang namin na-maximize masyado since gahol kami sa oras sa studio niya that time. pero i bet if you have a great sounding room and fine the room's sweet spot, saktong-sakto na yan...

[mokie]

mga magkano magagastos sir if i'm going to use mics, or mixers? yung good quality sound na po. thanks!

[peeves24]

samson mics 15k
cables 10k
8channel interface 20k and up. buy 2nd hand to lower the cost. you wont need a mixer.
mic stands for overheads 1800 each
dual core or quad core pc, 30k and up

[plitipiw40315]

samson mics 15k
cables 10k
8channel interface 20k and up. buy 2nd hand to lower the cost. you wont need a mixer.
mic stands for overheads 1800 each
dual core or quad core pc, 30k and up

aray ko.. 

[mokie]

thank you sir sa info,meron naman na kong dual core pc ok na siguro un.. start na ko magipon.   

[popsicle]

samson mics 15k
cables 10k
8channel interface 20k and up. buy 2nd hand to lower the cost. you wont need a mixer.
mic stands for overheads 1800 each
dual core or quad core pc, 30k and up

pao, question lang sa interface. kapag sinabi bang 4 inputs tulad ng fast track pro tsaka mobile pre ibig sabihin ba nun pwede ko marecord ay 4 different tracks? ganun din ba sa mga mixer tulad ng behringer xenyx na may mga usb interface? salamat!

[peeves24]

yung behringer xenyx pre 2 channels lang usb nun

pero yung fast track 4 channels talaga yun pero 2 lang mic pres. yung 2 channels nya line level na. make sure kung sa drums mo gagamitin, maraming mic preamps yung interface or else, bibili ka pa ng mixer na may direct outs per channel or yung may inserts para magamit mo dun sa line level inputs.

[jcbska]

samson mics 15k
cables 10k
8channel interface 20k and up. buy 2nd hand to lower the cost. you wont need a mixer.
mic stands for overheads 1800 each
dual core or quad core pc, 30k and up

mismo kuya peeves! hehe  masakit talaga sa bulsa.

[peeves24]

pre mas masakit kapag nasira yung interface hahaha. namatay na yung isang firestudio project ko. balik ako sa 8 channels ulit. planning to upgrade sa rme fireface 800 by next year...masakit sa bulsa pero i hate the way presonus treats old and existing customers. kapag na phase out kasi yung model, tigil na sila support.

[jcbska]

pre mas masakit kapag nasira yung interface hahaha. namatay na yung isang firestudio project ko. balik ako sa 8 channels ulit. planning to upgrade sa rme fireface 800 by next year...masakit sa bulsa pero i hate the way presonus treats old and existing customers. kapag na phase out kasi yung model, tigil na sila support.

hala anong nangyari sa firestudio mo kuya peeves? bago pa un ah? di na nagawa? sayang and masakit nga sa bulsa

[soulstitch]

mga sirs ano po bang pinaka panalong bass drum mic shure beta 52, akg d112, or audix d6? salamat

[nickmar]

I have these 3 mics. Pero favorite ko yung akg d 112. Fuller yung sound kahit konti lang EQ.I'm using d6 on my 16 floor tom. Maganda kung makapasyal ka dito sa bahay para yung magustuhan mo iuwi mo na

[soulstitch]

I have these 3 mics. Pero favorite ko yung akg d 112. Fuller yung sound kahit konti lang EQ.I'm using d6 on my 16 floor tom. Maganda kung makapasyal ka dito sa bahay para yung magustuhan mo iuwi mo na
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[tipsyboy]

We have a Gretsch Catalina Maple kit set up in church with five cymbals (hats, ride, 2 crashes, china). I have two SM81s--one as an overhead, and one for the hi-hats. Usually, nakukulangan ako sa tunog ng cymbals, and since we're not about to make major instrumental purchases any time soon, I'm thinking of using both SM81s as overhead mics at the expense of hi-hats. Iniisip ko baka pwedeng mabawi yung hi-hats through the overheads. Unfortunately, I don't have time to do experiments, so I'm asking for opinions. What do you guys think?

[inigo]

During one soundcheck, test with both setups (quick 1 minute adjustments lang naman yun) if you can hear the hats adequately from a distance (like, from the back of the church). Have someone hit on the drums and cymbals while you listen at the other end of the room. The test should take a total of 5 minutes.

If you don't have 5 minutes, I think you should retain the close micing if your cymbals are a brass model (Planet Z, Meinl Headliner, etc)
or go ahead with placing 2 overheads if you have bronze models (from Zildjian ZHT, ZBT or ZXT, Sabian B8, Paiste Alpha, etc, and higher models). Reason being brass models do not project as much as the bronze models.

I guess it will depends na rin on your musical intentions. My suggestion assumes that keeping the beat might (hi hats) be more important in getting crowds to sing than song climaxes (crashes). On the flip side, I've heard some gigs in some churches wherein the beat wasn't as important as the crescendos, because the songs they used were dramatic and, um, Evanesence-ish.

[peeves24]

We have a Gretsch Catalina Maple kit set up in church with five cymbals (hats, ride, 2 crashes, china). I have two SM81s--one as an overhead, and one for the hi-hats. Usually, nakukulangan ako sa tunog ng cymbals, and since we're not about to make major instrumental purchases any time soon, I'm thinking of using both SM81s as overhead mics at the expense of hi-hats. Iniisip ko baka pwedeng mabawi yung hi-hats through the overheads. Unfortunately, I don't have time to do experiments, so I'm asking for opinions. What do you guys think?

try the glyn johns technique. doesnt matter how many cymbals you have.



2 overheads, 1 snare and 1 kick. just hope and pray that the drummer can balance  the drums by himself. ang downside lang nito, masyado naman yung makukuha nya na bleed na galing sa guitar at bass amps. ok sya kung may drum shield ka

curious lang ako. ano yung hihat mo? kasi kung something like zbt/zht/b8/101/ or any other entry level cymbal, kulang talaga sa volume yun compared sa zildjian avedis or sabian AA hats na cheapest highend hihats na mabibili mo.

[tipsyboy]

May drum shield naman, so wala namang bleed. Actually, ayoko nga nun eh. Minsan lahat sila nagtatawanan, and I feel left out.  But yeah, it does minimize the bleeding greatly, if there's even any that get through.

Ang hi-hats ko either 13" K/Z, or 14" K Custom Dark Hats.

[dreendroid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbn27JmiHHs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUUMrwyXDGA

share ko lang sakin....i just use 5 karaoke/dynamic mics, really cheap. i don't even use condensers. haha

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