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Offline nickson

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« Reply #600 on: June 20, 2013, 11:39:28 AM »
So rubis915, will it really matter kung NOS or brand new run yung transistor? Kung pareho naman values nila..

Plus... sa NOS lang naman nagkakaron ng "leaks" diba? Kasi kung (example lang) 5 pairs out of a hundred ang good trannies, sa panahon ngayon.. that means meron na manufacturing defect, sa laki ng percentage ng defective sa isang run.

Going back.. kung maggawa ka man ng fuzzrite or buzzsaw or fuzz face clone for selling, consider me first on your list ha?  :-D i want that #001
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« Reply #601 on: June 20, 2013, 09:35:02 PM »
Medyo matapang yung tone bender, parang big muff na u.s, pero mas muddy lang yung big muff, sige papi, i'll be wait for your experimentation  :wave:
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« Reply #602 on: June 21, 2013, 10:27:56 AM »
So rubis915, will it really matter kung NOS or brand new run yung transistor? Kung pareho naman values nila..
Plus... sa NOS lang naman nagkakaron ng "leaks" diba? Kasi kung (example lang) 5 pairs out of a hundred ang good trannies, sa panahon ngayon.. that means meron na manufacturing defect, sa laki ng percentage ng defective sa isang run.
Going back.. kung maggawa ka man ng fuzzrite or buzzsaw or fuzz face clone for selling, consider me first on your list ha?  :-D i want that #001

Salamat for reading.. "take note" i'm not really good at this.. i'm talking from my experience and what i know and some what i read..  :eek:

1. regarding nos at new "silicon" transistors sa tingin ko lang wala masyado pag kakaiba sa tunog
problem is yung ibang ginamit sa lumang mga pedal dati wala na or discontinued so..
hahanap ka ang substitute.. yun... meron nag pagkakaiba sa gain or frequency response sa
ginawa mong circuit.. in most fuzz circuit..  some favors the silicon kasi mas stable lalo sa
temperature.. iba tunog ng germanium pedal sa openfield concert.. vs sa music museum.. hahah

Ive read Keeley has reproduction of the old Fuzzrite...
and they are Limited edition 40 units only why.. kasi daw.. 
nakakuha sila ng NOS silicon transistor.. same as the original..
this will atest na .. they favor the NOS... here it is.. at $269
http://www.robertkeeley.com/2012/01/custom-shop-releases-60s-mosrite-fuzz-rite-recreation/

2. regarding nos at new "germanium" transistors...  yes meron din reproduction
ng mga germanium transistors..  again most boutique pedal builders "favor"
NOS againts new. iba daw talaga ang tunog... i think pag bago ang germanium
transistor.. sobrang liit ng leak nito or zero.. sa katagalan magleleak na..
parang battery lang... in time nag tutubig na... "parang" ganun...

3. Most manufacturer diverted to making silicon transistor mas stable at mas precise at mas maliit
but even 2 silicon that came from the same batch "may" sound different.  maliit ang chances
na defective or magkaiba ang frequency responce ng 2 silicon in the same batch mas precise na kasi ang production ngayun...

i hope may nasagot ako sa tanong mo...

Lastly.. yes ..  i have cloned the fuzzrite at fuzzface... working but not yet finished
pag natapos better.. ipapagamit ko muna sa mga gusto magpaclone.. mas OK diba..
itest mo muna ng mabuti...mahirap dipala  swak sa setup mo...e nabili mo na..  :eek:
lahat ng tweaky parts ilalabas ko sa case..  para madaming tone..
I'll post it soon... pwamis...

Share ko lang din...
Here's is something a "FUZZ freak" will watch to the end...  28mins of demo..heheh
If ever you got bored..  fuzz is not for you... IMHO.. hahah Enjoy!!!
I favor the MK1.5=Fuzz face..

video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdJWv4emZdY
documentation:
http://tonefiend.com/effects/fuzz-detective-the-plot-thickens/


astig talaga si Rubis! cool ng hobby..
natawa ko sa sinabi mo heheh Thank you!!!...
naging hobby nalang talaga yung tinapos ko.. True!
ang layo ng course ko sa work ko ...  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #603 on: June 21, 2013, 11:28:10 AM »
i hope may nasagot ako sa tanong mo...

Thanks for the time answering bro. So tonal preference din talaga ng mga sikat na botik pedal-makers yung nabanggit mong difference in use of a NOS tranny than the new productions. I was beginning to think na para lang mabenta mga pedals, ina-associate nila yung term na NOS. Para may mystique effect lang.

My Fuzz Factory has two germanium trannies with "ZVex" labels.  :? And they say Zvex uses NOS germaniums. I'll take pictures when I can. Fuzz factory owners, kindly check yours lol.

Share ko lang din...
Here's is something a "FUZZ freak" will watch to the end...  28mins of demo..heheh
If ever you got bored..  fuzz is not for you... IMHO.. hahah Enjoy!!!
I favor the MK1.5=Fuzz face..

video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdJWv4emZdY
documentation:
http://tonefiend.com/effects/fuzz-detective-the-plot-thickens/

Ayus to.. mamaya pagkauwi panuorin ko to. Thanks for the share bro. #001 kong fuzzrite ah? Haha  :wave:
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« Reply #604 on: June 21, 2013, 12:28:14 PM »
Salamat for reading.. "take note" i'm not really good at this.. i'm talking from my experience and what i know and some what i read..  :eek:

1. regarding nos at new "silicon" transistors sa tingin ko lang wala masyado pag kakaiba sa tunog
problem is yung ibang ginamit sa lumang mga pedal dati wala na or discontinued so..
hahanap ka ang substitute.. yun... meron nag pagkakaiba sa gain or frequency response sa
ginawa mong circuit.. in most fuzz circuit..  some favors the silicon kasi mas stable lalo sa
temperature.. iba tunog ng germanium pedal sa openfield concert.. vs sa music museum.. hahah

Ive read Keeley has reproduction of the old Fuzzrite...
and they are Limited edition 40 units only why.. kasi daw.. 
nakakuha sila ng NOS silicon transistor.. same as the original..
this will atest na .. they favor the NOS... here it is.. at $269
http://www.robertkeeley.com/2012/01/custom-shop-releases-60s-mosrite-fuzz-rite-recreation/

2. regarding nos at new "germanium" transistors...  yes meron din reproduction
ng mga germanium transistors..  again most boutique pedal builders "favor"
NOS againts new. iba daw talaga ang tunog... i think pag bago ang germanium
transistor.. sobrang liit ng leak nito or zero.. sa katagalan magleleak na..
parang battery lang... in time nag tutubig na... "parang" ganun...

3. Most manufacturer diverted to making silicon transistor mas stable at mas precise at mas maliit
but even 2 silicon that came from the same batch "may" sound different.  maliit ang chances
na defective or magkaiba ang frequency responce ng 2 silicon in the same batch mas precise na kasi ang production ngayun...

i hope may nasagot ako sa tanong mo...

Lastly.. yes ..  i have cloned the fuzzrite at fuzzface... working but not yet finished
pag natapos better.. ipapagamit ko muna sa mga gusto magpaclone.. mas OK diba..
itest mo muna ng mabuti...mahirap dipala  swak sa setup mo...e nabili mo na..  :eek:
lahat ng tweaky parts ilalabas ko sa case..  para madaming tone..
I'll post it soon... pwamis...

Share ko lang din...
Here's is something a "FUZZ freak" will watch to the end...  28mins of demo..heheh
If ever you got bored..  fuzz is not for you... IMHO.. hahah Enjoy!!!
I favor the MK1.5=Fuzz face..

video:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdJWv4emZdY
documentation:
http://tonefiend.com/effects/fuzz-detective-the-plot-thickens/

natawa ko sa sinabi mo heheh Thank you!!!...
naging hobby nalang talaga yung tinapos ko.. True!
ang layo ng course ko sa work ko ...  :mrgreen:

idol na kita sir.  :wave:  :money:


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« Reply #605 on: June 21, 2013, 05:37:10 PM »
Do you have to be an ECE grad to make STOMPBOX circuits ? or conventional electronics course? .... I am interested to make this ... how will i learn? (youtube and google) will do?
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« Reply #606 on: June 21, 2013, 06:10:25 PM »
Do you have to be an ECE grad to make STOMPBOX circuits ? or conventional electronics course? .... I am interested to make this ... how will i learn? (youtube and google) will do?

No sir...  if you're interested into  just cloning... electronics 101 and a good soldering
practice will do...  :-) 
if you want to know how every part of the circuit works.. i think you need a course for this one.
me?  i dont know..  :eek:
check out "chromespherecom" on youtube... he has documented helpful videos
on doing this stuff.

I was beginning to think na para lang mabenta mga pedals, ina-associate nila yung term na NOS. Para may mystique effect lang.

My Fuzz Factory has two germanium trannies with "ZVex" labels.  :? And they say Zvex uses NOS germaniums. I'll take pictures when I can. Fuzz factory owners, kindly check yours lol.

Ayus to.. mamaya pagkauwi panuorin ko to. Thanks for the share bro. #001 kong fuzzrite ah? Haha  :wave:

tama ka pre..  minsan ganun nga..  para makabenta.. heheh
regarding fuzz factory mo.. ganun? nilabelan nila yung transistor para di malaman na AC128.
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« Reply #607 on: June 21, 2013, 06:39:33 PM »
tama ka pre..  minsan ganun nga..  para makabenta.. heheh
regarding fuzz factory mo.. ganun? nilabelan nila yung transistor para di malaman na AC128.

Di ako pamilyar sa mga values at codes ng transistor pero ZVEX na nakatatak sa kanya

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« Reply #608 on: June 21, 2013, 07:23:51 PM »
I'm not a fan of fuzz but I'm planing to make my first Fuzz DIY. Yung NPN Silicon fuzz face. Would it really matter kung yung gagamitin ko na transistor is 2n3904 instead of the BC108? Will be etching the PCB tonight.

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« Reply #609 on: June 22, 2013, 02:00:41 AM »
I'm not a fan of fuzz but I'm planing to make my first Fuzz DIY. Yung NPN Silicon fuzz face. Would it really matter kung yung gagamitin ko na transistor is 2n3904 instead of the BC108? Will be etching the PCB tonight.

Most important for me is biasing of voltage sa Q1 and Q2.Second yung transistor.I used BC109 hfe 350 for Q1 and BC109C hfe700.

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« Reply #610 on: June 22, 2013, 08:28:51 PM »
Most important for me is biasing of voltage sa Q1 and Q2.Second yung transistor.I used BC109 hfe 350 for Q1 and BC109C hfe700.

Bro, how much voltage should there be in the collector? 4.5V ba?
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« Reply #611 on: June 22, 2013, 09:24:50 PM »
Ano res
Bro, how much voltage should there be in the collector? 4.5V ba?
Magkaiba voltage ng Q1 and Q2 collector.Sa Q1 1.2v-2v.Sa Q2 3.2-5v hanapin mo na lang yung sweet spot dyan.Mas maganda may trimmer ka sa Q2.

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« Reply #612 on: June 23, 2013, 02:03:55 AM »
Already biassed it. Q1 is around 1.2V then Q2 is around 5.2V. Originally at 8.2K resistor for Q2, it was around 3V+. Then I changed the 8.2K to 4.7K. Seems okay din mana both with humbuckers and single coils. Anyway bro, the schem I followed doesn't have the trimmer. If ever I like to replace the resistor for Q2 to 10K trimpot, how would it wire it? There are only two holes for the original resistor slots. The trimpot has 3 lugs. Pano yon? TIA...  :-D
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« Reply #613 on: June 23, 2013, 01:43:50 PM »
you talk geek! nosebleed :lol:
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« Reply #614 on: June 24, 2013, 10:12:13 AM »
Di ako pamilyar sa mga values at codes ng transistor pero ZVEX na nakatatak sa kanya


oo nga ano..  Zvex nakatatak... i think bagong production na mga
germanium na yan.. parang mga chinese made tubes..  renamed tapos iba na brand.  :eek:

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« Reply #615 on: June 24, 2013, 10:45:22 AM »
oo nga ano..  Zvex nakatatak... i think bagong production na mga
germanium na yan.. parang mga chinese made tubes..  renamed tapos iba na brand.  :eek:

Tinatamad na ako! Hindi NOS ang germaniums ko... Bebenta ko na tao o itatapon sa bintana!!!  :-P

Kidding aside, it sounds lovely. NOS or not, this fuzz is downright addicting.

Sa video link mo bro, gusto ko din yung Mk1.5 ng Sola. Pwede din yung Mk2.  :)
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« Reply #616 on: June 24, 2013, 11:42:05 AM »
Tinatamad na ako! Hindi NOS ang germaniums ko... Bebenta ko na tao o itatapon sa bintana!!!  :-P
Kidding aside, it sounds lovely. NOS or not, this fuzz is downright addicting.
Sa video link mo bro, gusto ko din yung Mk1.5 ng Sola. Pwede din yung Mk2.  :)

haha..  mag aabang ako sa bintana nyo...   :wave:

But... ang sabi dun sa video..  ang mk1.5 daw is more likely a "Fuzzface"
may difference sa mga piyesa pero wont affect the tone..
nagiisip din nga ako
FYI bro..  a fuzz factory if a fuzz face talaga daw..  nilabas lang mga
tweaky parts.. bias, gate.. battery sag...

yung DIY fuzzface ko at Fuzzfactory "almost" same lang tunog nila
medyo magkaiba sa gain at clean up.... (not using tweaky knobs)
take note mag kaiba pa sila ng Transistor... fuzzfactory (AC188) faceface (2 japanese Germ trannny)

BTW bro..  try ko na mag clone this week ng fuzzface for selling..
will post here..
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« Reply #617 on: June 24, 2013, 12:03:10 PM »
haha..  mag aabang ako sa bintana nyo...   :wave:

But... ang sabi dun sa video..  ang mk1.5 daw is more likely a "Fuzzface"
may difference sa mga piyesa pero wont affect the tone..
nagiisip din nga ako
FYI bro..  a fuzz factory if a fuzz face talaga daw..  nilabas lang mga
tweaky parts.. bias, gate.. battery sag...

yung DIY fuzzface ko at Fuzzfactory "almost" same lang tunog nila
medyo magkaiba sa gain at clean up.... (not using tweaky knobs)
take note mag kaiba pa sila ng Transistor... fuzzfactory (AC188) faceface (2 japanese Germ trannny)

BTW bro..  try ko na mag clone this week ng fuzzface for selling..
will post here..

#001 ako bro, sure yan!  :wave:

Magandang enclosure na? Hindi na tin can? Maghahand paint ako sa #001.  :)
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« Reply #618 on: June 24, 2013, 12:28:03 PM »
#001 ako bro, sure yan!  :wave:

Magandang enclosure na? Hindi na tin can? Maghahand paint ako sa #001.  :)

Yup.. basta magkabudget bro.. siguro 3 muna bro...
will be doing yung point to point board na.. 
Enlosure + 3pdt = 500 na agad  :x

hahah..  sige..  akin yung #002    :-D
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« Reply #619 on: June 24, 2013, 01:05:42 PM »
Haha. Thanks. Kumbaga sa vinyl.. nakakuha ako ng test press.  :idea:

Will be coming home this July to get me a fuzz face clone. Oyea.
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« Reply #620 on: June 24, 2013, 01:09:12 PM »
Haha. Thanks. Kumbaga sa vinyl.. nakakuha ako ng test press.  :idea:

Will be coming home this July to get me a fuzz face clone. Oyea.

Ayus! Sana matapos ko bako ka dumating..
Nice!  :mrgreen:
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« Reply #621 on: June 24, 2013, 02:45:37 PM »
Ayus! Sana matapos ko bako ka dumating..
Nice!  :mrgreen:
fuzz factory nadin! hehe

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« Reply #622 on: June 24, 2013, 02:47:34 PM »
hanep!

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« Reply #623 on: June 24, 2013, 03:20:16 PM »
hanep!

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thanks for the complement...  :wave:
hindi sir... just using the info sa internet.. 
and sharing ... 

fuzz factory nadin! hehe
ok ako sa fuzzrite..  fuzzfactory..  di pa ako ready... hahaha

 
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« Reply #624 on: June 24, 2013, 11:19:29 PM »
has anyone here tried/heard the http://kreffectspedals.webs.com/ the gypsy fuzz? -

i saw this on youtube and i was totally blown away —
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ476mYCKpg  :-o