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Offline tejadamj

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Which is the Best Setup?
« on: June 07, 2010, 09:56:40 PM »
Hi,

I'm planning on buying a PA System and I just want to know which is the best setup
A. Mixer, Power Amp and Speakers
B. Powered Mixer and Speakers
C. Mixer and Powered Speakers

What are the pros and cons of each setup?

Thanks

Offline aquaracer168

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2010, 09:57:53 AM »
for newbie like me at para madali setup...

C. mixer and powered speakers
« Last Edit: June 08, 2010, 09:59:09 AM by aquaracer168 »

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2010, 11:18:49 AM »
A. Mixer, Power Amp and Speakers - dahil hiwahiwalay sya kapag nasira isang component hindi mo kailangang iapagawa o palitan lahat, marami ka nga lang dadalhin
B. Powered Mixer and Speakers - generally mas mura pero mas low wattage
C. Mixer and Powered Speakers - mas malakas kesa b pero mas mahal. portable pa rin kaso kailangan me extension ka para sa mga speakers. pag magkalayo mejo hassle un

btw, sa c ako
« Last Edit: June 08, 2010, 11:20:38 AM by in_the_tent »
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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2010, 01:06:25 PM »
A. Mixer, Power Amp and Speakers - dahil hiwahiwalay sya kapag nasira isang component hindi mo kailangang iapagawa o palitan lahat, marami ka nga lang dadalhin
B. Powered Mixer and Speakers - generally mas mura pero mas low wattage
C. Mixer and Powered Speakers - mas malakas kesa b pero mas mahal. portable pa rin kaso kailangan me extension ka para sa mga speakers. pag magkalayo mejo hassle un

btw, sa c ako

+1  :-)

also you may want to check out (online) the latest models from the more reputable manufacturers (e.g., JBL, QSC, RCF, EV, Mackie, CV, Beta 3, Wharfedale); seems like the trend is more towards powered speakers with onboard DSP (same for power amps). these would address issues on impedance matching, latency for multidrive systems, etc. kaya match talaga ang mga components, ganda ng tunog, as close to a plug and play system as you can get so far, parang cheaper pa nga (money-, manpower-, setup time-wise) if you'll consider all the outboard gear that a traditional setup requires. on the other hand, less room for customization for the more discriminating ears kung simple setup lang. but all things considered, C is my choice, IMHO  :-)




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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2010, 03:50:34 PM »
c din ako


Offline MixMan

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2010, 04:31:44 PM »
A or C..  :wink:

ewww sa B :lol:

Offline tejadamj

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 12:54:00 AM »
Great. Thanks for the inputs mga sirs.  :-D

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 03:13:32 PM »
A or C..  :wink:

ewww sa B :lol:
agree ako sa a and c. pero sa b, di eew un pag ang laman ng bulsa eh katulad ko, kakaunti.
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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2010, 09:59:04 PM »
agree ako sa a and c. pero sa b, di eew un pag ang laman ng bulsa eh katulad ko, kakaunti.

if "C" is the best choice at today's PRO Audio..what brand and model would you recommend sir..?(for outdoor's )

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2010, 11:10:54 PM »
Madami pong great brands for these category eh. But most of them wala akong personal experience na gamitin. Pero ang nagamit ko eh budget meals... B3 U series-I like. Or you can try their Sigma series para mas solid pangoutdoor at pang live band.
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Offline aquaracer168

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2010, 07:34:09 AM »
@ in_the_tent - sir mas ok ba pang rentals ang B3 U series kesa sa B3 T series? yun sigma kasi mabigat...


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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2010, 10:12:10 AM »
sabi nila mas ok daw pangindoor ang u series. baka mas ok ang t series sa outdoor. di ko pa nattry.
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2010, 01:52:55 PM »
you may also want to consider the voice coil sizes of the different series and models ng Beta 3. polypropylene plastic din yata ang U and T series while wood ang Sigma series, the latter's VC size and enclosure make it approach the level of other mid to high end brands (not exactly cheap anymore). not sure what magnet types were used in each series. more details sa elderaudio.com and sa news.elderaudio.com. we're planning to buy a pair of U12's for mons




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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2010, 01:58:04 PM »
dagdag lang po, rotatable ang HF horn ng U series, that may be useful for monitor applications or for flying them on their side.




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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2010, 12:29:16 PM »
though..expensive na rin medyo ang B3 U series @13k each yata?(correct me if im wrong)..
im eyeing JBLs JRX 115 1x15.
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2010, 01:41:31 PM »
how about ACM audio speakers? ok ba yun sir? ACM audio na powered sub mukang ok naman. kaya lang halos ka presyo ata ng b3 sigma sub...

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2010, 03:07:46 PM »
Hi,

I'm planning on buying a PA System and I just want to know which is the best setup
A. Mixer, Power Amp and Speakers
B. Powered Mixer and Speakers
C. Mixer and Powered Speakers

What are the pros and cons of each setup?

Thanks
for me A. in the long run pag upgrade mo you have a choice kung ano ititira mong gamit or yung amp puwede sa ibang speaker and speaker puwede sa ibang set ng amp.
B. kung packages yung bibilin mo i mean like "Stagepas 500" yamaha ok yun
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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2010, 04:35:50 PM »
how much po ang jrx 115? baka mas cheaper diyan sa manila.. i'm from cebu..

Offline N1X

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2010, 10:30:38 PM »
Go for the "A" kasi later on bibili ka uli ng pang dag-dag try mo mag XLINE one of the cheapest pero super sa performance

yung mga powered ok yan pang biglaan but if you're planning for the next big thing sayang pera mo

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2010, 07:09:25 PM »
if you're planning to upgrade, pwede mong gamiting monitors ang powered mo..
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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2010, 06:39:40 PM »
anong ginagwa niyo sa mga speakers niyo kapag outdoor setup tas umulan? pinapayongan nio?
or ang mga speakers ba talaga ay pwede maulanan?
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Offline acdsee

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2010, 06:50:39 PM »
telang itim lang...yan ang advantage ng mga horn loaded like mb311, di mababasa speaker mo kasi naka retract siya, fiber coated naman ang box nya kaya ok lang maulanan :-)

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2010, 08:39:48 AM »
anong ginagwa niyo sa mga speakers niyo kapag outdoor setup tas umulan? pinapayongan nio?
or ang mga speakers ba talaga ay pwede maulanan?

For me if your set up is Indoor best talaga C, but if your set up is Outdoor best dun ang A, primarily bcoz kung gagamitin mo ang C sa outdoor like plaza, beach set up hindi papasa ang mga powered since limited ang kaya nyang ibatong power wattage.dapat din kasi i consider ang location. Kung A pwede kang bumili ng mga horn Loaded na matataas ang wattage para hindi ka mabitin sa power plus dapat may matching quality amplifier sya na mag da drive sa mga passive speaker mo.

About sa set up ngayon tag ulan, better kung mga fiber finish na buffles ang gagamitin mo,like mga electrotech or in my own set up gamit ko JBL 4726x na may foam filter sa unahan grill, para kung umulan man di papasok ang tubig sa speaker. Kalaban ng cone lalo sa JBL Transducer ang lamig at basa.

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2010, 11:26:55 AM »
how about ACM audio speakers? ok ba yun sir? ACM audio na powered sub mukang ok naman. kaya lang halos ka presyo ata ng b3 sigma sub...
sir kung acm lang mag b3 na lang kayo, mas maganda at mas malinis tumunog ang b3 kesa sa acm. sigurado po yun.

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Re: Which is the Best Setup?
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2010, 12:04:49 PM »
meron akong nakitang extension sa power cord na protection sa basa at sa ulan, san po kaya nakakabili nun?

para hindi mabasa yung power supply ng mga active speakers?
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