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Title: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 14, 2013, 09:36:56 PM
Hi, let me elaborate what my title implies, meron kasi akong vox pathfinder 15r, while it's a great sounding amp and all pag gusto ko mag jam along a certain song medyo mahirap kasi walang aux - in na jack.

Meron lang tong mono out at headphones out, so sinasaksak ko pa yung vox classic rock amplug ko sa mono out at dun nag kakabit ng aux lol

may paraan ba or may alam gadget ba na maganda pumagitna sa mono out ng amp ko at sa aux in ng ipod?

 :razz:
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: pao2pao16 on January 14, 2013, 09:40:58 PM
I usually play along with my laptop and PC speakers.
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 14, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
oh okay, pero pano pag "quiet" practice lang tipong pang 3am ng umaga tapos bawal maingay? haha
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: sweeplikevai on January 14, 2013, 10:30:53 PM
oh okay, pero pano pag "quiet" practice lang tipong pang 3am ng umaga tapos bawal maingay? haha

wag muna mag practice
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: maruzen on January 14, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
hmm ang problema e kelangan mag jam using ipod backing tracks pero dadaan sa amp tapos lalabas sa headphone output?

yung setup ko kasi ganito sa ngayon:

guitar + effects > Blackstar HT5R > aux out > Stax headphone amp

PC backing tracks > Stax headphone amp

bale dalawa kasi yung input ng Stax headphone amp tapos pede sabay gamitin. baka kailangan mo lang ng headphone amplifier na may multiple inputs tapos pede sabay gamitin (yung iba kasi single source lang at one time) na nakakabit sa isang headphone.

tama ba?
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 14, 2013, 10:43:55 PM
yes sir ganun na nga guitar>effects>amp (mono out/headphone out)>amplug>ipod>headphones ganyan setup ko din

mukhang mahal yung stax a haha.

wag muna mag practice

haha, e yun lang libreng oras sir! lol
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: overdrive/distortion on January 14, 2013, 10:45:30 PM
kung may effects loop amplifier mo. kabit mo ipod mo sa "effects loop return" ng amp.
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: maruzen on January 14, 2013, 10:51:07 PM
yes sir ganun na nga guitar>effects>amp (mono out/headphone out)>amplug>ipod>headphones ganyan setup ko din

mukhang mahal yung stax a haha.


hmm medyo mahal kasi mga headphone amplifier kung para dito mo lang gagamitin. pede siguro DIY na custom 'splitter box' type pero may 2 input tapos isang output papunta sa headphones.
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 14, 2013, 11:09:33 PM
kung may effects loop amplifier mo. kabit mo ipod mo sa "effects loop return" ng amp.

wala sir e input lang talaga nito yung sa guitar jack e :(

hmm medyo mahal kasi mga headphone amplifier kung para dito mo lang gagamitin. pede siguro DIY na custom 'splitter box' type pero may 2 input tapos isang output papunta sa headphones.

ahh oo tama DIY, so isang input para dun sa mono tapos nun output niya headphones, tapos isang input para sa aux, kaso dapat pag input ko ng mono masplit ko yun to stereo diba?
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: maruzen on January 14, 2013, 11:12:42 PM
ahh oo tama DIY, so isang input para dun sa mono tapos nun output niya headphones, tapos isang input para sa aux, kaso dapat pag input ko ng mono masplit ko yun to stereo diba?

hmm hintay tayo ng expert jan tol, pero parang ganun nga  :)

good luck bro!
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: sweeplikevai on January 14, 2013, 11:17:27 PM
or,,,, download ka ng guitar effects.... rekta mo gitara mo sa computer.. pang ensayo lang..
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 14, 2013, 11:48:23 PM
hmm hintay tayo ng expert jan tol, pero parang ganun nga  :)

good luck bro!

thanks sir haha

or,,,, download ka ng guitar effects.... rekta mo gitara mo sa computer.. pang ensayo lang..

na try ko na yan sir, kaso pag maluwag yung kabitan mo sa aux port napuputol input hassle haha
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: sweeplikevai on January 14, 2013, 11:53:43 PM
thanks sir haha

na try ko na yan sir, kaso pag maluwag yung kabitan mo sa aux port napuputol input hassle haha

higpitan
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: ios on January 15, 2013, 12:39:19 AM
pag gabi na eto ang setup ko:

Guitar>effects>AMP> tapos amp headphone out to sound card line in> headphone/speaker

not the best quality but it works  :-D
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: maruzen on January 15, 2013, 12:47:52 AM
pag gabi na eto ang setup ko:

Guitar>effects>AMP> tapos amp headphone out to sound card line in> headphone/speaker

not the best quality but it works  :-D

ok din ito basta wala latency sa line in. minsan kasi may delay pag "monitor" mode sa line-in, kaya hassle pag sasabay ka sa backing tracks :)
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: sweeplikevai on January 15, 2013, 12:57:37 AM
ok din ito basta wala latency sa line in. minsan kasi may delay pag "monitor" mode sa line-in, kaya hassle pag sasabay ka sa backing tracks :)

download 'asio' for all

may latency pa din pero inaudible na.
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: maruzen on January 15, 2013, 01:04:41 AM
download 'asio' for all

may latency pa din pero inaudible na.

yup great suggestion! :)

this should work for Creative and most soundcards :)

just stay away from Asus Xonar D2 and it's brethen. it's the card that I have and the latency problem with Windows Vista and Windows 7 is still pretty much incurable :)
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: xto on January 15, 2013, 02:01:58 AM
pwede rin loop station.
guitar>effects pedals>loop station>amp input :)
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: ios on January 15, 2013, 09:50:17 AM
ok din ito basta wala latency sa line in. minsan kasi may delay pag "monitor" mode sa line-in, kaya hassle pag sasabay ka sa backing tracks :)

sa windows 7 default settings may delay ng 1 sec. Pero pwede naman mawala.

found this a while back:

"Okay. I have the solution. Right click the speaker icon (on windows 7) on the task bar then left click on "recording devices". Right click on the microphone and left click on properties. Go to the "listen" tab and make sure the "listen to this device" check box is unchecked. Okay now close the microphone properties window. The "sound" window should still be open. Go to "playback" tab,right click on speakers and left click on properties. Then click on the "levels" tab. You should see a microphone section with its playback volume muted. Unmute it and increase or decrease the playback volume as desired. There should be no noticeable delay when you speak into the microphone now. :)"
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 15, 2013, 09:34:18 PM
pag gabi na eto ang setup ko:

Guitar>effects>AMP> tapos amp headphone out to sound card line in> headphone/speaker

not the best quality but it works  :-D

haha thanks for the advice, ganyan din ginagawa ko pero parang di ko makuha yung balance ng mic in ng soundcard pag ganyan e, parang sabog parati.

sakin naman, walang latency mic in ko with or without asio. pero mukhang best solution na ata talaga diy na box thing na malalagay ko sa gitna ng ipod amp at headphones haha.

hassle kase pathfinder walang aux in, great amp though

edit, okay kaya mag invest sa isang guitar trainer gadget?
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: maruzen on January 15, 2013, 10:35:53 PM
can you elaborate on guitar trainer gadget bro?

although the discussion might be off-topic already :)
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 15, 2013, 10:45:05 PM
can you elaborate on guitar trainer gadget bro?

although the discussion might be off-topic already :)

i think pasok pa din tayo sa topic, nakita ko lang sa net yun e, basically para siyang cd player na pwede mo saksakan ng headphones, aux in, guitar in at cd para makasabay ka sa songs, pwede din islowmo yung songs, quite cool, pero not sure kung worth it mag invest sa ganun haha

para atang mga headphone amp yun without the amp haha
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: samuelfianza on January 15, 2013, 11:11:49 PM
gamit ka ipod/player with earphones. tapos yung amp with Headphones.

Bale parehong nakasuot sa tenga mo yung earphone at headphone. LOL
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: samuelfianza on January 15, 2013, 11:15:09 PM
gamit ka ipod/player with earphones. tapos yung amp with Headphones.

Bale parehong nakasuot sa tenga mo yung earphone at headphone. LOL
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: cheddar on January 15, 2013, 11:22:05 PM
gamit ka ipod/player with earphones. tapos yung amp with Headphones.

Bale parehong nakasuot sa tenga mo yung earphone at headphone. LOL
yup... hehehe. ok naman.
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: Nazara on January 15, 2013, 11:29:34 PM
gamit ka ipod/player with earphones. tapos yung amp with Headphones.

Bale parehong nakasuot sa tenga mo yung earphone at headphone. LOL
Hehe ingenious ito sir ah!  :mrgreen:

Ako naman usually pc with speakers lang, at yung amp medyo mahina. Then unti unti kong nilalakasan ang amp over the pc speakers as I get more confident with a certain lick/song. :)
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 15, 2013, 11:42:25 PM
yup... hehehe. ok naman.

haha funny enough tinry ko nato hahaha saket sa tenga malamang pag di pantay volumes haha
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: Ben Tsing Co on January 16, 2013, 08:43:46 AM
gamit ka ipod/player with earphones. tapos yung amp with Headphones.

Bale parehong nakasuot sa tenga mo yung earphone at headphone. LOL

Tried this also before  :-D

OK naman  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: Ohmme on January 16, 2013, 09:23:07 AM
i think pasok pa din tayo sa topic, nakita ko lang sa net yun e, basically para siyang cd player na pwede mo saksakan ng headphones, aux in, guitar in at cd para makasabay ka sa songs, pwede din islowmo yung songs, quite cool, pero not sure kung worth it mag invest sa ganun haha

para atang mga headphone amp yun without the amp haha

Here is the guitar trainer from TASCAM, It's a tascam GB-10 wherein you could slow down the music without changing the pitch. Yung latest uses SD Card na instead of the CD-player and plays Mp3. Pwede rin i-loop yung parts kung saan ka hirap.

http://tascam.com/product/gb-10/ (http://tascam.com/product/gb-10/)

(http://www.musik-schmidt.de/images/product_images/popup_images/Tascam-GB-10.jpg)
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 16, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
Here is the guitar trainer from TASCAM, It's a tascam GB-10 wherein you could slow down the music without changing the pitch. Yung latest uses SD Card na instead of the CD-player and plays Mp3. Pwede rin i-loop yung parts kung saan ka hirap.

http://tascam.com/product/gb-10/ (http://tascam.com/product/gb-10/)

wow may recorder na din pala yung pinaka bago ng tascam so cool! di ko na kailangan dumaan ng audacity
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: CeL1916 on January 16, 2013, 10:05:19 PM
download 'asio' for all

may latency pa din pero inaudible na.

problema dito, di pwede gumamit ng mediaplayer(for backing tracks) habang tumatakbo ang guitarig or amplitube! (o sakin lang yun? ewan ko ganun sakin eh)
Title: Re: Best way to practice with song accompaniment pag walang aux in ang amp?
Post by: 40seconds on January 17, 2013, 09:19:27 AM
problema dito, di pwede gumamit ng mediaplayer(for backing tracks) habang tumatakbo ang guitarig or amplitube! (o sakin lang yun? ewan ko ganun sakin eh)

pag amprig gamit ko sir, parang may tapedeck yun e tapos nun dun ko niloload yung mp3s tapos nun tuloy tuloy na ang ligaya haha