I need help, trumpet and trombone Players!

[ceesharp]

Sirs/Ma'ams,

I'm a bass player and I have a band with trumpeteers and a trombone player. They didn't have formal training so they just play "by ear". Medyo hirap kaming magkaintindihan with notes. So far, wala naman silang problema sa mga songs na pini-play namin. But when it comes to making new songs, though, I have a hard time figuring out the notes to be used. Uhmmm... Narinig kong iba ang notes ng trumpet/trombone sa gitara/piano. Soooo... Kung pwede po sana, may parang guide ako na tipong:

C for guitar/piano = (X note) for trumpet = (Y note) for trombone

Thanks!

Haha. Please don't bash my post saying: "tamad ka lang mag-aral eh!" Kaka-isip ko lang nun. Haha. Sorry kung "noob" yung post.

[dingricon]

Concert Key (piano/guitar ..)         Trombone              Bb Trumpet   ---

Bb                                                 Bb (1st position)          C
C                                                  C                                D
 D                                                   D                              E
E                                                     E    (1st    )                  F#
 etc...

to make things easy....... ask the Bb trumpet /tenor sax/Bb clarinet players play the note w/c is a whole tone higher from your instrument..trombone should be d same w/ your note...(but there's another way they call their notes..depends on how they were taught..)

example -if you're playing C ask your trumpet player to play D...- your C is tuned with their D, your Bb is their C..etc...
for the trombone...their 1st position should be same as the trumpet's open position.....
email or pm me for more details....