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Title: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: odalisque on February 24, 2007, 10:37:06 PM
Do silica gel packs really help in preventing rust from "eating" your guitar especially the strings, hardware and etc.?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Jaco D on February 24, 2007, 11:08:34 PM
It should - as long as the silica gel packs are not saturated with moisture.  If they are, the reverse happens: they add moisture to the case interior.  Replace the packs with fresh ones or microwave the packs till the colored balls in the packs return to their colored state.  Put a paper napkin on a paper plate and put the packs on top of that one level deep (hindi patong-patong).  Zap at "defrost" for 5 minutes.  If the beads still look muddy, give them an additional 2 minutes.  If you have a hydrometer (tama ba?  the thing that measures moisture?) keep moisture at 40?%.  Too dry or too much moisture is just as bad for the wood and metal parts.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Poundcake on February 25, 2007, 12:14:14 AM
the silica gel's alright. i removed the silica gel pack in my Les Paul's case and i put a Dunlop Dehumidifier inside. it's been great so far, it does what it's expected to do :)
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: SuperWeak! on February 25, 2007, 12:21:16 AM
ung libre sa muffins ng gardenia me silica gel dun ginagamit sa guitar case q epektib nmn sya so far...
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: tele-tubby on February 25, 2007, 12:47:50 AM
san makakabili?  hardware?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: mikep on February 25, 2007, 12:57:25 AM
I put silica gels in all my guitar cases but Rickenbacker advises they should never be used.  Still I used them and no problems so far.  You can buy them at Mercury sometimes.

FWIW
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: balance on February 25, 2007, 03:06:09 AM
It should - as long as the silica gel packs are not saturated with moisture.  If they are, the reverse happens: they add moisture to the case interior.  Replace the packs with fresh ones or microwave the packs till the colored balls in the packs return to their colored state.  Put a paper napkin on a paper plate and put the packs on top of that one level deep (hindi patong-patong).  Zap at "defrost" for 5 minutes.  If the beads still look muddy, give them an additional 2 minutes.  If you have a hydrometer (tama ba?  the thing that measures moisture?) keep moisture at 40?%.  Too dry or too much moisture is just as bad for the wood and metal parts.

Would you know kung ano effect kung too dry?  Nilalagyan ko ng silica gel packs (galing box ng running shoes hehehe) yung guitar case ng wolfgang ko pero worried ako baka too dry kasi medyo dry na rin dito sa mpls lalo na kung winter.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: i_banez on February 25, 2007, 10:46:06 AM
the silica gel's alright. i removed the silica gel pack in my Les Paul's case and i put a Dunlop Dehumidifier inside. it's been great so far, it does what it's expected to do :)

san po nakakabili ng Dunlop Dehumidifier? and how much? and ano yung pagkakaiba nyan sa Dunlop Corrosion Inhibitor?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Letour on February 25, 2007, 10:58:40 AM
My guitar was in its case for two solid years. There was a silica gel inside and the strings were not rusty at all. I posted this suggestion in "tip" thread many months back.

Naturally, I replaced the strings but at least they didn't rust which meant that my guitar didn't suffer.

Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: odalisque on February 25, 2007, 11:47:58 AM
thx for the replies guys!

extra question:

Is it better to store your guitar inside it's case or just place it in a stand?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Jaco D on February 25, 2007, 12:47:11 PM
Would you know kung ano effect kung too dry?  Nilalagyan ko ng silica gel packs (galing box ng running shoes hehehe) yung guitar case ng wolfgang ko pero worried ako baka too dry kasi medyo dry na rin dito sa mpls lalo na kung winter.

I think you will need a lot of those packs to create a very dry environment in the guitar case to cause problems.  Kung sa case mo tinatapon yung mga pinupulot mong "Do Not Eat" packs like I do, I don't think that would be a major concern.  If it's too dry, the wood contracts.  Contraction/expansion of wood is best seen in the most unprotected part of the guitar - the fretboard.  Kung dry and the wood contracts, you gut "fret stubs" (it's called other things as well) wherein the frets stick out of the sides of the fretboard since the wood contracts and the metal frets do not contract as much.  Some people find this annoying.  Ako, nasanay na ako to expect it during winter.  Baliktad naman kung moist yung environment.  From what my tech tells me, its the sudden and frequent swinging of temperature and humidity from one side of the scale to the other that causes problems - both good and bad.  Good in the sense that it gives that "cracked" relic finish that people pay big bucks for or do funky things just to speed up the process.  Bad in the sense that warpage could take place.  That's why techies suggest that you acclimatize your axe when you go from one end of the temperature or humidity spectrum to the other before using it.

Is it better to store your guitar inside it's case or just place it in a stand?

Personally I'd say case, by a mile.  It could be a bit cumbersome but I find it a safer method in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: lao on February 25, 2007, 01:14:35 PM
very informative to ah, yung silica gel ko medyo madilaw na, is this normal? :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: mikep on February 25, 2007, 01:46:02 PM
I would say in a hard case.  Less possibility of it being destroyed accidentally.

FWIW
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: i_banez on February 25, 2007, 03:57:48 PM
saan po mismo nyo nilalagay yung silica gel? ako po dun sa ilalim ng strings in between the pickups... ok lng po ba yun?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: lao on February 25, 2007, 04:26:29 PM
i put it anywhere sa case :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: turiguiliano on February 25, 2007, 06:28:16 PM
very informative to ah, yung silica gel ko medyo madilaw na, is this normal? :-D

yes. throw it away and get new ones. pag tumagal, sobrang baho. parang panis na gatas na hinaluan ng...just replace it.   :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: don_martin on June 13, 2007, 02:37:10 AM
besides putting a dessicant inside my case, I wipe my strings with wd40. ewan ko lang kung masama siya sa wood ng guitar but I've been doing it for 10 years. ok pa naman siya.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: jun_gats on June 13, 2007, 08:16:16 AM
i need this
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: st0mpb0x_bahista on June 13, 2007, 01:32:49 PM
mga sir pwede din ba maglagay silica gel kung softcase lang yung gig bag mo, wala kasi akong hardcase eh at ilang pack kaya ang kailangan thanks
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: ECUA on June 13, 2007, 03:10:42 PM
sa tingin ko, ok lang maglagay ng silica gel kahit naka-soft case lang... ganun din sa akin eh, wala rin akong hardcase
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: pallas on June 13, 2007, 03:59:29 PM
I also blow-dry my cases once in awhile with a hair dryer, grabe humidity dito :oops:
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: caloyburger on June 13, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
for me the best silica gel to use is the one they sell for cameras.  you can buy them in hidalgo, quipao for P50 and its about the size of two boss pedals.  change them every six months and you'll be ok.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: rockizta123 on June 13, 2007, 05:13:32 PM
pag magkahardcase ako di ko dadagdagan ng boobs :lool:
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: chupao on July 21, 2007, 01:24:04 PM
mga sir tanung lng kung ilang pack/s ang kailangan para sa guitar case n silica gels . ? hehe

salamats . . !!
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: calvs on July 21, 2007, 08:29:42 PM
^ as far as i know 1 will do
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: andrew_O_O on July 21, 2007, 08:59:08 PM
even with punas punas and 2 packs of silica...my strings still rust..
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: tejadster on July 21, 2007, 09:08:11 PM
kelangan talaga ng silica gel  :-D
Title: Re:sirs may tanung lang ako
Post by: chupao on July 27, 2007, 09:07:58 AM
kagabi pinalitan ko strings ng elec gitar ko ng cheap strings like mariposa . .
pwede po ba un . . ?

tpos po pagkalagya ko tinono ko na sya
bglang humina ung pick ups sa A . . string at medyo matigas na un strings ko . . hehe

anu po kayang pwedeng gawin dito ?

 :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: changedmynametojimi on July 27, 2007, 09:15:05 AM
the too dry silica gel information, scared the sh$t out of me
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: st0mpb0x_bahista on July 27, 2007, 09:37:10 AM
sir chupao ang maganda gawin po dyan magpalit ka nalng ng ibang klaseng string, sa tingin ko kasi ang mga mariposa string ay hindi gawa sa pure nickel ang ibig sabhin nito ang string properties niya ay hindi ganun kamagnetic, kaya mahina ang magnetic pull ng pickup sa string ang result nito ay mahina na output
Title: Re: salamats . .sir stompbox
Post by: chupao on July 27, 2007, 01:23:18 PM
tama ka nga . . kaya nga cheap eh . . di rin magada kalidad at d talaga prefered kung sa mga lower strings hehe pero ginagmit ko ung G B E strings kasi sayang ho bili ko hehehe so ginawa ko nlng sir is binalik ko ung dating E A D strings ko and bumalik ung tunog ng A pick ups ko heheheh

salamat po malaki talaga natutulong ng mga forums nato  . . .

hehehe!!! Mabuhay po kayong lahat . . !!!  :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: sidlead66 on October 21, 2007, 09:22:49 AM
pwede din kaya sa soft case to? (Gator)
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Larukunai on October 21, 2007, 12:52:24 PM
pwede po ba yung nasa loob ng mga vitamins? yung sa mga gamot?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: cacophony on October 22, 2007, 08:24:23 AM
ok lang naman ilagay ang silica gel kahit sa anong guitar case eh... basically, nag-aabsorb lang naman sya ng moist na naiipon sa loob ng case eh...
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: giftmones on October 22, 2007, 08:39:36 AM
ano ba ung silica gel di ko yata alam un?..? :?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: redjaztin on October 22, 2007, 08:53:02 AM
ano ba ung silica gel di ko yata alam un?..? :?

yun yung nakukuha sa mga kahon ng sapatos...hehehe...nasa maliit na pack na puti may nakasulat na silica na may laman na malilit na bilog.

kakagaling ko lang sa sta mesa nung friday, bumili ako guitar stand. tapos nanghingi na rin ako ng sampung silica gel. hehehe
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Son_Yohan on October 24, 2007, 09:43:37 AM
yun yung nakukuha sa mga kahon ng sapatos...hehehe...nasa maliit na pack na puti may nakasulat na silica na may laman na malilit na bilog.

kakagaling ko lang sa sta mesa nung friday, bumili ako guitar stand. tapos nanghingi na rin ako ng sampung silica gel. hehehe
uy libre. :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: kaloyster on October 24, 2007, 10:58:53 AM
It should - as long as the silica gel packs are not saturated with moisture.  If they are, the reverse happens: they add moisture to the case interior.  Replace the packs with fresh ones or microwave the packs till the colored balls in the packs return to their colored state.  Put a paper napkin on a paper plate and put the packs on top of that one level deep (hindi patong-patong).  Zap at "defrost" for 5 minutes.  If the beads still look muddy, give them an additional 2 minutes.  If you have a hydrometer (tama ba?  the thing that measures moisture?) keep moisture at 40?%.  Too dry or too much moisture is just as bad for the wood and metal parts.

Pano malalaman kung yung color ay bumalik na sa dati kung hindi naman pwedeng buksan yung pack? And any alternatives kasi wala kaming microwave?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: rabidtongue on October 24, 2007, 08:51:32 PM
meron nabibili sa japanese 88 peso store 6 buckets ng dehumidifier for 88 pesos

bucket nya kasing laki ng isang stompbox/pedal  :wink:
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Son_Yohan on November 16, 2007, 11:51:15 AM
Tulong naman jan ASAP. Nagtanong ako ng silica gel sa mercury at dalawa pang drugstore pero wala daw sila nun. San kaya ako pwedeng bumili na malapit sa Megamall or Monumento area. Meron ba talaga sa muffin ng Gardenia? Gaano kaya kalaki yun? Sigurado bang meron sa Hidalgo nun? Response naman agad jan. :-(
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: redjaztin on November 16, 2007, 12:02:58 PM
Tulong naman jan ASAP. Nagtanong ako ng silica gel sa mercury at dalawa pang drugstore pero wala daw sila nun. San kaya ako pwedeng bumili na malapit sa Megamall or Monumento area. Meron ba talaga sa muffin ng Gardenia? Gaano kaya kalaki yun? Sigurado bang meron sa Hidalgo nun? Response naman agad jan. :-(

hingi ka nalang kahit sa mga mall...yung bilihan ng sapatos...hehehe...meron din  dun....

nagtataka lang ako...yung hardcase ko tadtad na ng silica gel...malaki at maliit...tapos nakaipit pa sa strings yung dalawang maliit. pero after 2 days na di ko nagamit gitara ko...nakupo...puno ng kalawang. tapos punasan ko lang matatanggal na kalawang. batits danun?  :(

malakas nga pala moist ng bahay namin. nagbabasa yung pader pag umuulan. nakakaapekto ba yun?

;D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Son_Yohan on November 16, 2007, 12:12:18 PM
^^ Sir na-try mo na bang humingi sa kanila. Baka kasi mapahiya pako. :oops: Thanks for the idea though.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: redjaztin on November 16, 2007, 05:12:13 PM
^^ Sir na-try mo na bang humingi sa kanila. Baka kasi mapahiya pako. :oops: Thanks for the idea though.

di pa sa bilihan ng sapatos...hehehe...pero nanghingi na ako sa music store....kasi dami kong nakikitang ganun dati pagbumibili o nagsusukat ako ng sapatos. Di ko pa kailangan noon kaya. di ako nanghihingi.

:D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Son_Yohan on November 16, 2007, 07:49:13 PM
meron nabibili sa japanese 88 peso store 6 buckets ng dehumidifier for 88 pesos

bucket nya kasing laki ng isang stompbox/pedal  :wink:
sir saan may branch nitong store na to?6 bucket for 88 pesos only?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: rabidtongue on November 16, 2007, 09:07:16 PM
^Sir marami akong nakitaan ng Japanese Home na store...Sa may Walter-Mart Makati, Park Square 2 Along Pasay Rd., Festival Mall, at Alabang Town Center...Dun lang kasi ako napapadpad...

Di lang ako sigurado kung sa bandang North meron...Pero sa palagay ko meron din yan...

Yes Sir 6 buckets for 88 pesos ko nabili...
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Son_Yohan on November 18, 2007, 01:04:09 AM
sige try kong humanap sa area na yun. Japanese Home Store di ba? thanks.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: rabidtongue on November 18, 2007, 01:30:06 AM
^Ayos! Sa pagkaka-alala ko Japan Home Center yung pangalan...basta may "Japan" hehheh

ito nga pala ichura nya:

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa254/houseofravens/Dehumidifier.jpg)
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Son_Yohan on November 19, 2007, 10:42:06 AM
^ ayos to ah. bale 6pcs nito di ba? mukang malaki na rin to. malalagyan ko pati yung ibang gigbags ko nito. thanks bro. :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: chromeknive on November 19, 2007, 05:37:00 PM
i must say, at first takot ako na these things might dry up my fretboard or something, so i didnt use them.

but then my strings really started to rust up. so i tried it, and with fast fret it works wonders.

so far wala akong rust at all and my woods seem fine. :-)
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: rabidtongue on November 19, 2007, 09:02:48 PM


^yep! silica gel/dehumidifier + fast fret = longer lasting strings

sir son_yohan paalala ko lang pala na magiging TUBIG yung loob ng container...ibig sabihin nun kailangan na palitan pag purong tubig na...pero wag mag-alala kasi matibay yung cover at di lalabas yung tubig...di pa naman nabasa yung gear ko ehhehe

pero para safety na rin lagay mo na lang sa loob ng plastic yung container :wink:
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: paperlungs on November 23, 2007, 11:39:17 PM
besides putting a dessicant inside my case, I wipe my strings with wd40. ewan ko lang kung masama siya sa wood ng guitar but I've been doing it for 10 years. ok pa naman siya.

i do the same...pero i don't directly spray it sa strings...i put a thin piece of cardboard between the strings and the fretboard then wipe it with a cotton cloth drizzled with WD40. works for me kahit sobrang pasmado ako.  :wink:
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: spife on November 24, 2007, 12:05:11 AM
ayos. nakita ko dati sa music store na may mga desiccant sila dun eh. kaya kinuha ko yung desiccant sa vitamins tapos nilagay ko na sa mga guitar case ko. tignan natin after a few months kung ok.  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: japo32 on March 10, 2008, 10:24:09 PM
i must say, at first takot ako na these things might dry up my fretboard or something, so i didnt use them.

but then my strings really started to rust up. so i tried it, and with fast fret it works wonders.

so far wala akong rust at all and my woods seem fine. :-)

ano po yung fast fret?  :? san po ito nabibili?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: tejadster on March 11, 2008, 01:17:38 PM
ano po yung fast fret?  :? san po ito nabibili?
nilalagay sa strings...
parang lubrican for your hands pero hindi sya sticky..
it makes you play faster
it prevents rust from you strings
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: chromeknive on March 20, 2008, 01:48:36 PM
HEY DUDEZ!

I figured I'd 1-up you all. I put 2 dessicant bags in my guitar case for 2 months.

Guess what?

My frets popped up and my intonation went whack. Buzzing happened. It took an Elegee day to fix. I also noticed the grain in the fretboard became more apparent and it looked really dry/bad.

If your fretboard isnt as dry as it should be ata, dessicants can be harmful. I suspect the dessicants pulled out the remaining moisture in my fretboard and made it contract- thus the frets popped-up slightly.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: moogerfooger on March 24, 2008, 07:41:24 AM
thx for the replies guys!

extra question:

Is it better to store your guitar inside it's case or just place it in a stand?


inside its case.,unless madami ka spare strings :)
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: gutz_3110 on June 22, 2008, 11:39:56 AM
yun mga nasa pack na silica gel san nakakahanap? ok din ba yun nabibiling dehumidifier sa musci stores?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: pizarro84 on June 22, 2008, 08:41:44 PM
yun mga nasa pack na silica gel san nakakahanap? ok din ba yun nabibiling dehumidifier sa musci stores?

Yung paketeng silica gel meron sa ace hardware, tanong ka lang  :-D
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Post by: gutz_3110 on June 22, 2008, 09:37:56 PM
salamat  sa pag reply pizarro84! sige punta ako ace thanks ulit!
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Post by: barneykols on June 23, 2008, 09:31:47 AM
ayos to a! very informative. masubukan nga hehehe  :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: jay martin on June 23, 2008, 06:30:43 PM
i never tried doing this, but sige i'll give it a try and see how it works for me.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Metal Gear Solid on June 23, 2008, 06:42:28 PM
HEY DUDEZ!

I figured I'd 1-up you all. I put 2 dessicant bags in my guitar case for 2 months.

Guess what?

My frets popped up and my intonation went whack. Buzzing happened. It took an Elegee day to fix. I also noticed the grain in the fretboard became more apparent and it looked really dry/bad.

If your fretboard isnt as dry as it should be ata, dessicants can be harmful. I suspect the dessicants pulled out the remaining moisture in my fretboard and made it contract- thus the frets popped-up slightly.

That's why after using the guitar or restringing it, I apply fretboard conditioners. Lemon oil etc to preserve the wood. The dessicant bags help me to avoid rusting of strings and floyd parts.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Allan_Reamillo on June 23, 2008, 07:30:45 PM
That's why after using the guitar or restringing it, I apply fretboard conditioners. Lemon oil etc to preserve the wood. The dessicant bags help me to avoid rusting of strings and floyd parts.
+1
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: simon_divitico on June 23, 2008, 08:41:07 PM
thx for the replies guys!

extra question:

Is it better to store your guitar inside it's case or just place it in a stand?


Wala akong stand, pero ayoko gaanong tinatago, dahil sa expreience ko kinakalawang yung string nang mabilis (since takot ako magsilica gel) at pumuputi na parang amag yung fretboard mismo kapag malamig... anong tawag dun??
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: bryanarzaga on June 23, 2008, 09:26:34 PM
i just get(steal) or ask from my mom, when she buys bags and shoes those silica packets are included lol  :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: simon_divitico on June 23, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
i just get(steal) or ask from my mom, when she buys bags and shoes those silica packets are included lol  :-D

sir kamusta! effective ba ang silica gel talaga sa experience nyo? bali anong effect nya besides pagprevent ng pagbuild up ng rust sa strings?  :-)
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: bryanarzaga on June 23, 2008, 10:51:27 PM
sir kamusta! effective ba ang silica gel talaga sa experience nyo? bali anong effect nya besides pagprevent ng pagbuild up ng rust sa strings?  :-)

hello ok lang sir, silica gel? if you live near the ocean you have to have a custom made guitar case full of silica gel lol, it works for me, also the every custom guitar that gets shipped to me has two packets of silica gel one logged between the strings and one taped near the pickups
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Post by: jomzki on September 27, 2008, 08:11:57 PM
ok tong thread na to.. I'll try the silica wonder.... see what happens in 2 months.. hehe.. sana hindi mag pop-out fret. thanks!
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: bryanarzaga on September 28, 2008, 08:22:13 PM
ok tong thread na to.. I'll try the silica wonder.... see what happens in 2 months.. hehe.. sana hindi mag pop-out fret. thanks!

why should it make frets popout? its a packet? you dont apply it, its just put inside anything that you dont want moisture/condensation to happen. its commonly found in bags,shoes..in the instrument world its boxes(packaging),guitarcases,when i get guitars from china,japan, or even musiciansfriend,samash or guitarcenter the boxes will have these and when they get it from the storage area there is a packet between the strings
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: paolo_axentro on September 28, 2008, 09:36:40 PM


ok ba to sa hardcase kahit araw araw mo ginagamit sa gig ang gitara mo. :? oh effective lang to pag itatambak mo ng ilang bwan ang gitara mo.  :?

thanks  :-D


Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: bryanarzaga on September 28, 2008, 09:41:53 PM

ok ba to sa hardcase kahit araw araw mo ginagamit sa gig ang gitara mo. :? oh effective lang to pag itatambak mo ng ilang bwan ang gitara mo.  :?

thanks  :-D


yes it helps with the odor too,
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: paolo_axentro on September 28, 2008, 09:45:46 PM
yes it helps with the odor too,
ayun. salamat bro. hanap na ko nito bukas, tinanggal ko kasi yung nakalagay sa hardcase ko nung binili ko. hanap na ako nito bukas. may mabibili kaya nito na naka-pack?  :?

salamat sir sa reply  :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: bryanarzaga on September 28, 2008, 09:56:43 PM
ayun. salamat bro. hanap na ko nito bukas, tinanggal ko kasi yung nakalagay sa hardcase ko nung binili ko. hanap na ako nito bukas. may mabibili kaya nito na naka-pack?  :?

salamat sir sa reply  :-D

there are alot of those in ladies handbags/purses lol just take them :), i take them here in a boston store whenever my mom wants to buy something
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: paolo_axentro on September 28, 2008, 10:00:40 PM
there are alot of those in ladies handbags/purses lol just take them :), i take them here in a boston store whenever my mom wants to buy something
hehehe, medyo mahirap din pala kumuha nito. pero nice info, na maganda pala my ganto sa hardcase.
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Post by: bryanarzaga on September 28, 2008, 10:07:29 PM
hehehe, medyo mahirap din pala kumuha nito. pero nice info, na maganda pala my ganto sa hardcase.

haha sometimes it is, but i guess you can approach your musicstore and ask for those, i dont know how they do it manila, but customer service in guitarcenter is good for me, if im missing tools(hex keys) for guitars ill just ask for those and they'll give them for free
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: paolo_axentro on September 28, 2008, 10:11:55 PM
haha sometimes it is, but i guess you can approach your musicstore and ask for those, i dont know how they do it manila, but customer service in guitarcenter is good for me, if im missing tools(hex keys) for guitars ill just ask for those and they'll give them for free
sa sales lady nalang siguro ng department store ako magsasabi. medyo suplado yung ibang crew ng music store.  :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: Kclan on September 30, 2008, 05:56:40 PM
oo , tanong lang kayo sa mga shoes stores. meron na sila non, baka pwedeng makahingi. hehe
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Post by: paolo_axentro on October 02, 2008, 09:19:13 AM
oo , tanong lang kayo sa mga shoes stores. meron na sila non, baka pwedeng makahingi. hehe
hehehe, try ko nga.  :-D
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: gutz_3110 on April 19, 2009, 10:38:31 AM
i just got myself a box of silica gels and its is inside those little plastic bags. gamitin ko na ba na naka plastic or alisin ko sa plastic? balak ko ilagay ibalot sa tela or medyas hehehe
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: screamingguitars on April 19, 2009, 01:03:49 PM
silica gels had helped keep my guitars from getting rust, i think it works to some extent depending on the level of humidity in Ur area.
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Post by: bryanarzaga on April 19, 2009, 06:29:00 PM
i just got myself a box of silica gels and its is inside those little plastic bags. gamitin ko na ba na naka plastic or alisin ko sa plastic? balak ko ilagay ibalot sa tela or medyas hehehe

i wouldnt recommend opening the packet, those are toxic,
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: screamingguitars on April 19, 2009, 06:39:15 PM
Yep, they come in small crystals though so its not really advisable to tear and open the packets.
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Post by: gutz_3110 on April 19, 2009, 08:38:36 PM
oh ok...the one i bought is packed inside small plastic containers. im under the impression that the plastics are sealed. can it do its job even if it is sealed? hmmm can i just poke a hole in the plastic?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: screamingguitars on April 19, 2009, 08:54:56 PM
If U got those blue or pink silica gels in clear plastic packs, U only have to poke some pin holes into the plastic pack to activate it. Careful not to create holes large enough for the silica gel crystals to be scattered outside the plastic pack.
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Post by: gutz_3110 on April 19, 2009, 11:14:28 PM
If U got those blue or pink silica gels in clear plastic packs, U only have to poke some pin holes into the plastic pack to activate it. Careful not to create holes large enough for the silica gel crystals to be scattered outside the plastic pack.

yeah thats the one i got bro! thanks for the advise!
Title: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: blacktele on September 12, 2010, 11:07:15 PM
The right amount of Silica Gels:

Minimum Requirements:
Container Size Packet Size
70 cubic inches ½ gram
100 cubic inches ¾ gram
130 cubic inches 1 gram
0.225 cubic feet (389 CU IN) 3 grams
0.375 cubic feet (648 CU IN) 5 grams
0.75 cubic feet (1296 CU IN) 10 grams
2 cubic feet 28 grams
4 cubic feet 56 grams
8 cubic feet 112 grams
15 cubic feet 200 grams
33 cubic feet 450 grams
66 cubic feet 900 grams
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Post by: analog.matt on September 13, 2010, 08:35:07 AM
those blue ones and the pink ones are one and the same. i have lots of those. they should look like round bbs not cracked like those found in packets.

these "blue" and "pink" ones are deep violet when they come "New" and turn to blue, pink and white depending on the amount of moisture that it already absorbed.

the good thing with the colored ones is you can heat them using a non stick pan (easier to roll them around)  and they'll turn back to Deep Violet. you can use them again and again. as long as buo sila (bilog, like nerds candy) they will be very efficient.

just don't use your pan for food. i have a dedicated pan for reheating my silica gel.

you can also do the microwave method. pero noon kasi wala kaming microwave. and i wasn't into guitars before but electronics.

you can also create your own "dry box"

get a few of those silica gel, stuff them in a thin sock, place it inside a glad zip lock with your expensive gadget. you can also include a humidity gauge. national bookstore use to sell rulers with those gauges. this is what i did sa mga gadgets na naiwan ko sa pinas,

pag tumataas ang humidity (change in the needle mark) all our maid does is get the sock out, and heat the beads. this beats those thousand peso container being sold in department stores. (except those electrical dehumidifiers na malalaki)

if you can find those tupperwares with rubber seals, it can also function as a dry box but its kinda hard to find them, specially yung mga malalaki...cheaper way is to use ziplocks. and put them in a plastic box

specialty camera stores should have those silica gels. i haven't tried asking along Hidalgo St., Quiapo but they should have those.
In my last trip to the philippines, i was able to buy a few humidity gauges sa camera store. i use them in my make shift dry boxes.
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Post by: domengshu on September 13, 2010, 01:59:09 PM
Maraming slilica gels sa mga hardware stores ngayon (ACE, Handyman, True Value, etc..). Meron din mga dehumidifier packs na mejo malaki. But I suggest don't leave these packs in your cases for long periods of time. Sa experience ko nagdry up yun rosewood fretboard ng LP ko and had to spend more for fb restoration. :(
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: analog.matt on September 15, 2010, 04:41:47 PM
i think maybe its best to invest in a humidity gauge for your room or kung saan nilalagay yung mga instruments and make the necessary adjustments.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: zero`cool on November 21, 2010, 08:18:15 AM
is silica gel the same as asbestos? (ung mga nasa sapatos nga..  :?)

if so, I have one in my guitar case pero nka`balot sya ng parang "katya" na tela.. however, I noticed that my strings does'nt get the rust Im expecting, as to what it would have been kung wla ung silica gel..  :mrgreen:
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Post by: r_chino18 on November 21, 2010, 08:25:37 AM
is silica gel the same as asbestos? (ung mga nasa sapatos nga..  :?)

Asbestos? It's a flame retardant. Silica gel yung usually paper packed na parang tela ang dating. And yes, yun yung mga nasa kahon ng sapatos. It's silica gel, not asbestos.

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if so, I have one in my guitar case pero nka`balot sya ng parang "katya" na tela.. however, I noticed that my strings does'nt get the rust Im expecting, as to what it would have been kung wla ung silica gel..  :mrgreen:


What were you expecting? Mas makalawang ba pag may silica or hindi?
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: zero`cool on November 21, 2010, 09:33:01 AM
Asbestos? It's a flame retardant. Silica gel yung usually paper packed na parang tela ang dating. And yes, yun yung mga nasa kahon ng sapatos. It's silica gel, not asbestos.

ahh ok, haha.. my bad.. magkaiba pala un, salamat sa pag`correct sir..

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What were you expecting? Mas makalawang ba pag may silica or hindi?

dati kasi hindi ako gmgamit nung silica gel, tapos mejo pawisin ung kamay ko pag nag`ggitara.. before punas`punas lang OK na, but the next time na ggmitin ko ung gtara.. sobrang evident pa din ung rust sa string.. but after reading this thread, I tried using it as well and results are of course, sobrang na`minimize ung rust.. the silica gel proved worthy of praise..
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Post by: r_chino18 on November 21, 2010, 09:42:02 AM
ahh ok, haha.. my bad.. magkaiba pala un, salamat sa pag`correct sir..

dati kasi hindi ako gmgamit nung silica gel, tapos mejo pawisin ung kamay ko pag nag`ggitara.. before punas`punas lang OK na, but the next time na ggmitin ko ung gtara.. sobrang evident pa din ung rust sa string.. but after reading this thread, I tried using it as well and results are of course, sobrang na`minimize ung rust.. the silica gel proved worthy of praise..

Cool. I thought taliwas ang naexperience mo.  :lol: Pero take note that time will come when your silica gels have absorbed so much moisture na hindi na nila kayang mag-absorb pa. What they will do is release those moisture na. So ayun, be weary about them and replace them from time to time.  :-)
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: zero`cool on November 21, 2010, 09:56:21 AM
Cool. I thought taliwas ang naexperience mo.  :lol: Pero take note that time will come when your silica gels have absorbed so much moisture na hindi na nila kayang mag-absorb pa. What they will do is release those moisture na. So ayun, be weary about them and replace them from time to time.  :-)

hehe.. thanks for the heads up sir, hindi ko pa na`checheck lately ehh.. pero come to think of it, mejo matagal na nga ytang nasa case yun.. another question nlng po sir while we're at it.. have you tried any cloth na made for string cleaning? or may special cloth ka ba na gngamit na pamunas?
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Post by: r_chino18 on November 21, 2010, 10:07:19 AM
hehe.. thanks for the heads up sir, hindi ko pa na`checheck lately ehh.. pero come to think of it, mejo matagal na nga ytang nasa case yun.. another question nlng po sir while we're at it.. have you tried any cloth na made for string cleaning? or may special cloth ka ba na gngamit na pamunas?

String cleaning? I use Big Bends G-string wipes.  :-) cloth siya na basa na may panlinis na.

Pero marami din ibang string cleaners. Fast Fret, some Dunlops, D'Andrea string cleaner, etc..
If you want to try out something new and cool, The String Cleaner might be a good one.  :-)
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,202525.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,202525.0.html)

Most aftermarket string cleaners come with their own "pamunas" kumbaga. There are some siguro na de-spray, you can use a regular cotton cloth for that.
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: zero`cool on November 21, 2010, 01:11:50 PM
String cleaning? I use Big Bends G-string wipes.  :-) cloth siya na basa na may panlinis na.

Pero marami din ibang string cleaners. Fast Fret, some Dunlops, D'Andrea string cleaner, etc..
If you want to try out something new and cool, The String Cleaner might be a good one.  :-)
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,202525.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,202525.0.html)

Most aftermarket string cleaners come with their own "pamunas" kumbaga. There are some siguro na de-spray, you can use a regular cotton cloth for that.

Oks sir! thanks for all the help, try ko ung string cleaner sa thread na binigay nyo.. sayang hindi ko naabutan ung Pre-Xmas SALE!!! tsk..
Title: Re: Using Silica Gel inside a guitar case...
Post by: spetsnaz1123 on November 21, 2010, 02:30:43 PM
Just for info, may kasamang silica gel sa mga pakete ng rotosound strings. Bumili ako ng rotosound yellows nakakatuwa kasi merong silica gel sa loob.

OT: sarap ng rotosound yellow strings, the best sounding strings so far for me. Mura na, feeling guthrie govan (feeling lang :-D) pa.