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Offline Igor

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Delay Pedal Question
« on: November 30, 2015, 03:20:35 AM »
 Guys need help.
 Noob Question.
 
 Ano ba ang pinagkaiba ng Analog Delay, Digital Delay, Delay with modulation?

 First Time ko kasi bibili. and im seeing cheap ones in classifieds,  :-D
 
 Ang alam ko delay is used pag nasa adlib part ka na.para di dry yung sound.
 Sa akin naman since di ako masyado nag aadlib. balak ko siyang idagdag sa overall sound ko. ( tama ba yung term?)
 TIA Guys.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2015, 05:05:44 AM by Igor »
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Offline metalheadz

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Re: Delay Pedal Question
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2015, 10:38:57 AM »
Eto sir. Good reads sa topic :)
http://www.legendarytones.com/what-kind-of-delay-pedal-should-i-buy/
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/stomp-box/214681-analog-vs-digital-delay-whats-difference.html

Pero eto TLDR ko :lol:
Analog Delay: Natural sounding delay that sounds like a real delay i.e. echos sa kweba XD may natural decay ang tunog :)
Digital Delay: Delay na parang computer generated, gagayahin niya signal 100% pero hihnaan ang volume per repeat :)
Delay w/ Modulation: Eithr of the 2 sa taas pero meron halo na another Delay, Chorus, Flanger, Phaser, etc. basta hindi lang siya delay :)

Hope this helps :-D
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Re: Delay Pedal Question
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2015, 03:13:38 PM »
When it comes to delays, Analog vs Digital is often pertains to the SOUND of the delay.
Analog - warm & bassy
Digital - trebly & harsh

So which sound do you like?

Now in terms of circuitry:
Analog - shorter delay time, cannot save preset, only 1 delay mode. Some adds a modulation which repeats the signal for a very very short delay time to emulate a chorus sound.
Digital - Longer delay, can save a lot of presets, lots of delay types: ping pong, stereo, tape, modulation, etc and notably; Analog & Digital delay types.

Yes. A digital delay can emulate an analog sounding delay. But an analog delay cannot do digital delay, both circuitry and sound.


So you see the advantage there?

So again, which one do you like?

For me, I would go to the digital delay. Because not only I can do digital sounds, it can also do analog sounds, save presets, tons of delay types and many more.

Offline Igor

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Re: Delay Pedal Question
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2015, 05:02:10 AM »

  @ metalheadz, tnx sa info and Tnx sa link bro, i'll check.

  @ pao, tnx din sa info bro,  tingin din ako ng mga vid sa youtube to decide, but so far the cheap delays na sinasabi ko mga analog lahat,  :-D
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Re: Delay Pedal Question
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2015, 06:57:47 AM »
  @ metalheadz, tnx sa info and Tnx sa link bro, i'll check.

  @ pao, tnx din sa info bro,  tingin din ako ng mga vid sa youtube to decide, but so far the cheap delays na sinasabi ko mga analog lahat,  :-D

They're most probably digital delays that have filters to make them sound analog.  :-)


Offline Igor

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Re: Delay Pedal Question
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2015, 09:25:21 AM »
They're most probably digital delays that have filters to make them sound analog.  :-)

   hmm not sure bro, pero lahat ng nakita ko na for sale is DIY lahat.
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Re: Delay Pedal Question
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2015, 10:46:22 AM »

Guys need help.
 Noob Question.
 
 Ano ba ang pinagkaiba ng Analog Delay, Digital Delay, Delay with modulation?

 First Time ko kasi bibili. and im seeing cheap ones in classifieds,  :-D
 
 Ang alam ko delay is used pag nasa adlib part ka na.para di dry yung sound.
 Sa akin naman since di ako masyado nag aadlib. balak ko siyang idagdag sa overall sound ko. ( tama ba yung term?)
 TIA Guys.

Analog delay - yung delay sound may "deterioration" pwedeng mas warm or dark, basta hindi pareho ng original signal. Usually Hindi rin ganun katagal yung delay period. Best for slapback delay and solo tones.

Digital delay - yung delay sound ay exact copy ng signal dahil digital na sya. Yung delay time pwedeng umabot ng sobrang tagal, at pwede mag program ng BPM, tap tempo, at repeat rate. Great for tempo-locked riffs and looping.

Delay with modulation - yung delay sound may halong modulation, pwedeng phaser or something.

Tape delay - isang form ng analog delay dati na ngayon digital na. Tulad ng analog delay, nagdedeteriorate din yung delayed signal pero mas halata at bawat repeat ay mas deteriorated kaysa sa una.


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Re: Delay Pedal Question
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2015, 02:14:57 PM »
   hmm not sure bro, pero lahat ng nakita ko na for sale is DIY lahat.

Mostly because of the abundance of the pt2399 IC chip. Putting filter capacitors will make it sound warmer and darker.
Lots of DIY schematics for delays use that digital ic chip because it's not hard to find and very cheap.
Few years ago when the popularity of the Mimic Man delay was sold and advertised as an analog pedal. As a matter of fact, it is only analog sounding. But the pt2399 is digital

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Re: Delay Pedal Question
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2015, 02:09:18 PM »
"new" analog delay

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