[grape] question: Linux based OS vs. Windows

[progressive_pilipinas]

narinig ko na maganda daw ang linux, customizable daw talaga at mamamaximize ang pag gamit sa mga programs. Kaso may tanong ako, nag research ako sa net, yung mga ubuntu na yan, linux, kubuntu etc etc wala ako maintindihan so dito na lang sana may makasagot:

1. Mas safe ba ang linux based os sa viruses compared sa windows?
2. so paano ang pag install nito? boot from cd din? or habang naka on ang windows ay run from app?
3. sino nakasubok/gumagamit nito sa inyo ngayon? ano feedbacks niyo?

thanks! sana may magpost! 

[sjon014]

1. "The growth of viruses is directly correlated to the interest of malware writers to develop malware for that OS." -Kaspersky

Only a minute percentage of users use Linux or Unix-based systems so, while virus-creators could create viruses for Linux if they wanted, they don't. Same reason kung bakit almost nonexistent ang viruses sa Mac OS. Not because it's immune against threats, but because konti ang users, and the virus-creators don't bother.

2. Depende sayo. Most Linux flavours are hard-installed, but if you really want to sample it muna, you can boot from a Live CD. Knoppix and Kubuntu come to mind. If you do a hard install, it can coexist with a Windows install through a boot-loader upon startup (GRUB or LILO). Yung run from Windows app naman ala Virtual PC, it's not native. Bale Linux Shell lang mangyayari sayo nun.

3. I've used Ubuntu for a thesis and it's OK. Hardly ground-breaking, but it's stable and it's the best when it comes to open-source writing. Most types of software have open-source equivalents for use in Linux. You have Gimp, OpenOffice, etc. If you need to play games, some have Linux installs like Doom 3 and Unreal 3. Still, there's Cedega and Wine which allow you to emulate PC games and/or applications.

IMO, Linux is very capable and very functional. If you choose a good kernel, it can even be more stable than a Windows OS - which is good if you plan on making a home-based server. However, if you rely on many Windows-only (or Mac-only) programs, then maybe it isn't for you.

[marzi]

ive tried Mandriva(command line based pa to hehehe) Fedora and Ubuntu...

ang masasabi ko lang eh it takes time and patience to get used to it..pero pag nakuha mo na kung paano sya gamitin like kung pano mag execute ng programs, san makakahanap ng emulators and stuff, madami kang maiisip na possibilities sa paggamit nyan..

the new Ubuntu and Fedora looks awesome btw

wikipedia also has tons of stuff that can help you.

[progressive_pilipinas]

salamat sa replies. I am almost positive about installing it on my PC. One more question though:

3. I've used Ubuntu for a thesis and it's OK. Hardly ground-breaking, but it's stable and it's the best when it comes to open-source writing. Most types of software have open-source equivalents for use in Linux. You have Gimp, OpenOffice, etc. If you need to play games, some have Linux installs like Doom 3 and Unreal 3. Still, there's Cedega and Wine which allow you to emulate PC games and/or applications.

IMO, Linux is very capable and very functional. If you choose a good kernel, it can even be more stable than a Windows OS - which is good if you plan on making a home-based server. However, if you rely on many Windows-only (or Mac-only) programs, then maybe it isn't for you.[/color]

so you mean, the applications that i have installed on my windows: sonar7, dreamweaver,eagames, guitar pro, etc. wont run sa linux os?

[akosimic]

so you mean, the applications that i have installed on my windows: sonar7, dreamweaver,eagames, guitar pro, etc. wont run sa linux os?

it depends actually. theres a website that can give you a general overview of the most common apps that can work with linux via wine and its compatibility rating. google it nalang.

[marzi]

^di ba may bayad ang WINE?

[akosimic]

its free

[royalletones]

to TS. depende rin po kung san nyo gagamitin. usually pag games dapat windows

and kung web development using php/mysq go for linux.

[akosimic]

semi ot: who knows where could i find ubuntu drivers for sis mirage 3+ (i think)? i have ubuntu installed on my laptop and my screen reso doesnt look good. kahit 3rd party drivers lang.

[edalbkrad]

narinig ko na maganda daw ang linux, customizable daw talaga at mamamaximize ang pag gamit sa mga programs. Kaso may tanong ako, nag research ako sa net, yung mga ubuntu na yan, linux, kubuntu etc etc wala ako maintindihan so dito na lang sana may makasagot:

1. Mas safe ba ang linux based os sa viruses compared sa windows?
2. so paano ang pag install nito? boot from cd din? or habang naka on ang windows ay run from app?
3. sino nakasubok/gumagamit nito sa inyo ngayon? ano feedbacks niyo?

thanks! sana may magpost! 

Mas safe ang linux based os sa virus to a certain extent because windows is more popular, hence more viruses are made for windows.
(nasa pag-iingat nalang rin yun at antiviral software mo, itigil ang kakadownload ng porno)

Mas maganda itry mo windows 7 or apple snow leopard

[progressive_pilipinas]

it depends actually. theres a website that can give you a general overview of the most common apps that can work with linux via wine and its compatibility rating. google it nalang.

talaga? o sige will search for it. salamat sa info!

[progressive_pilipinas]

saw this:

Now ill have linux on my laptop muna. hehe 

http://wiki.winehq.org/ImportanceOfWine

[peabrain12789]

hehehe... ganda linux based os.
gamit ko ngayun sa 2 pc is kubuntu and ubuntu <-- tho mas stable nga talaga ang ubuntu...
major problem lang is yung sa may network identity... di cia makapasok sa main server namin... kaylangan input mo ipaddress hindi yung smb:\\blahblah na name...

[progressive_pilipinas]

hehehe... ganda linux based os.
gamit ko ngayun sa 2 pc is kubuntu and ubuntu <-- tho mas stable nga talaga ang ubuntu...
major problem lang is yung sa may network identity... di cia makapasok sa main server namin... kaylangan input mo ipaddress hindi yung smb:\\blahblah na name...

salamat sa insight bro. Hindi ko pa na iinstall ang software. Wala akong time maglipat pa ng files eh. hehe

[progressive_pilipinas]

teka bigla ako nalito. Bakit ini-install ang UBUNTU habang open ang windows? paano yun? so side by side ang windows at UBUNTU? eh gusto ko UBUNTU nalang eh, wala ng windows. help

eh ayoko namang mag pa ship ng cd kasi matagal naman daw. SO download ako UBUNTU then what?

[sjon014]

Dapat bootable image yung maobtain mong copy, then burn it to a CD.

Boot from the CD, follow the instructions. Parang nagiinstall ka lang din ng Windows from scratch.

[peabrain12789]

teka bigla ako nalito. Bakit ini-install ang UBUNTU habang open ang windows? paano yun? so side by side ang windows at UBUNTU? eh gusto ko UBUNTU nalang eh, wala ng windows. help

eh ayoko namang mag pa ship ng cd kasi matagal naman daw. SO download ako UBUNTU then what?

pwede install inside windows so parang naka-dual os ka. pede rin naman sa labas ng windows mo iinstall so poformat ng ubuntu yung drive... or kung may partition ka pede dun mu muna install yung ubuntu tas tsaka mo nalang iextract yung mga files mo from windows
re: dun sa request ng cd... nakuha ko sakin ng 2 weeks ambilis nga eh expect ko 3-4wks pa.

[progressive_pilipinas]

pwede install inside windows so parang naka-dual os ka. pede rin naman sa labas ng windows mo iinstall so poformat ng ubuntu yung drive... or kung may partition ka pede dun mu muna install yung ubuntu tas tsaka mo nalang iextract yung mga files mo from windows
re: dun sa request ng cd... nakuha ko sakin ng 2 weeks ambilis nga eh expect ko 3-4wks pa.

talaga? taga saan ka? itry ko nga rin. salamat sa payo. So, pag may cd - boot from CD na diba? alam ko na yun. hehe wala kasi ako alam sa mga extracting na yan eh. hehe. paga may magalaw ako delikado. 

[pao2pao16]

1. "The growth of viruses is directly correlated to the interest of malware writers to develop malware for that OS." -Kaspersky

Only a minute percentage of users use Linux or Unix-based systems so, while virus-creators could create viruses for Linux if they wanted, they don't. Same reason kung bakit almost nonexistent ang viruses sa Mac OS. Not because it's immune against threats, but because konti ang users, and the virus-creators don't bother.

This is very true. But I still wonder on how do windows virus creators get rich every time they launch a virus? And we know that Mac OS is really evolving. How come they still don't bother attacking it? I am using mac. And even I am an IT student and techy, I am still confident that mine will not get infected. But still, with this kind of assessment, I know that my system is unprotected. Maybe also because of Apple is advertising that there is 0% virus. So probably almost 100% of mac users are also unaware of the flaws they will get. It would be cool to create a virus for mac..

[progressive_pilipinas]

This is very true. But I still wonder on how do windows virus creators get rich every time they launch a virus? And we know that Mac OS is really evolving. How come they still don't bother attacking it? I am using mac. And even I am an IT student and techy, I am still confident that mine will not get infected. But still, with this kind of assessment, I know that my system is unprotected. Maybe also because of Apple is advertising that there is 0% virus. So probably almost 100% of mac users are also unaware of the flaws they will get. It would be cool to create a virus for mac..

so walang anti-virus ang MAC? naririnig ko nga din na hindi nava-virusan ang MAC.

[pao2pao16]

so walang anti-virus ang MAC? naririnig ko nga din na hindi nava-virusan ang MAC.

Meron din actually. Pero what's the use diba since no one is bothering making a virus. Pero unprotected parin. Navivirusan ang mac sir. Pero wala pang virus na nakaantala.

[progressive_pilipinas]

Dapat bootable image yung maobtain mong copy, then burn it to a CD.

Boot from the CD, follow the instructions. Parang nagiinstall ka lang din ng Windows from scratch.

nakita ko yung sa ubuntu, bootable nga ata yung shine-share nila dahil nagrerequire sila ng cd eh.

[pao2pao16]

You could also use a usb as bootable device..

[progressive_pilipinas]

You could also use a usb as bootable device..

oo nga pwede nga rin. 

[peabrain12789]

talaga? taga saan ka? itry ko nga rin. salamat sa payo. So, pag may cd - boot from CD na diba? alam ko na yun. hehe wala kasi ako alam sa mga extracting na yan eh. hehe. paga may magalaw ako delikado. 

ncr south area bro...
order ka lang sa net ng free cd mo... libre naman yun eh.. hehe...