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Re: Electronic/Digital Drum Equipment Thread
« Reply #700 on: July 29, 2015, 09:18:04 PM »
okay lang ba na bumili ako ng ringway edrums tapos gumamit na lang ako ng mga plugins sa DAW ko tulad ng addictive drums and ezdrummer? kapos kasi sa budget at gusto ko kasi sana ng edrums para kahit sa gabi makapag practice ako

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« Reply #701 on: July 30, 2015, 08:39:14 AM »
ok lang. budget mo naman talaga magsasabi sa yo kung ano yung mabibili mo. ok din gamitin ezdrummer. gaganda tunog ng ringway mo.

pero ang difference kasi ng mahal na kit sa mura e yung levels of expression. si ringway mapapansin mo meron sobrang soft, merong middle hit at merong hard hit. hihat nya closed,slightly open at full open. napakakonti ng levels kaya hindi rin ganun kaganda magtratranslate sa ezdrummer.

pero pang practice, yes go ahead.

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« Reply #702 on: July 30, 2015, 03:43:29 PM »
ok lang. budget mo naman talaga magsasabi sa yo kung ano yung mabibili mo. ok din gamitin ezdrummer. gaganda tunog ng ringway mo.

pero ang difference kasi ng mahal na kit sa mura e yung levels of expression. si ringway mapapansin mo meron sobrang soft, merong middle hit at merong hard hit. hihat nya closed,slightly open at full open. napakakonti ng levels kaya hindi rin ganun kaganda magtratranslate sa ezdrummer.

pero pang practice, yes go ahead.

Aray. I was expecting at least 8 levels of sensitivity  :eek:
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« Reply #703 on: July 30, 2015, 03:54:11 PM »
Aray. I was expecting at least 8 levels of sensitivity  :eek:

mahal na yan hahaha. kahit yung midlevel roland di pa rin ganun ka expressive

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« Reply #704 on: July 30, 2015, 04:13:14 PM »
mahal na yan hahaha. kahit yung midlevel roland di pa rin ganun ka expressive

Ilang levels yung sensitivity ng midrange na roland sir? Inisip ko lang kasi velocity values ng MIDI so 127 levels yun kaya parang konti na yung 8 :))
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« Reply #705 on: July 30, 2015, 04:54:52 PM »
Ilang levels yung sensitivity ng midrange na roland sir? Inisip ko lang kasi velocity values ng MIDI so 127 levels yun kaya parang konti na yung 8 :))

what i meant for expression is that the module needs to use a different sound depending on the velocity and power of the stroke. wala yung velocity component sa entry level modules.

yung midi 127 kasi is just for midi note and amplitude. nandun yun even for ringway. irerelate mo sa range  and each range will have a different sound (not exact ha, sample lang)

0-50 soft - trigger sound A
51 to 100 mid - trigger sound B
101 to 127 hard - trigger sound C

pinakaobvious yung ganitong style sa ride na nagtratransition yung sound from bow to bell depende sa lakas ng palo mo.

so kung nagsimula ka sa 1 mapapansin mo from na mahina palo, tumataas din gradually yung volume for the same sound A hanggang makatawid ka sa mid range. nagbabago volume pero hindi nagbabago yung tunog. ganun lang yung interpretation sa mga entry level modules.
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Re: Electronic/Digital Drum Equipment Thread
« Reply #706 on: July 31, 2015, 08:40:03 PM »
e kamusta naman po ang durability ng ringway edrums?

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« Reply #707 on: July 31, 2015, 08:57:22 PM »
sensitivity pala yun...speaking of which kailangan ko iadjust kasi lakas ata palo ko - parang natrigger din yun tom na malapit hahahaha

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« Reply #708 on: August 02, 2015, 08:26:31 PM »
yan ang sakit ng lahat ng electronic drums, ang tawag diyan sir ay crosstalk or xtalk... usually effect ng vibrations ng buong rack kapag pumapalo ka sa kit kaya nag ttrigger ang ibang pads :)

yung iba para masolve yan is dinadampen or nilalagyan ng damper ang mga clamps, pati mismo rack nilalagyan ng damper sa loob para lang maabsorb ang vibrations.

Kung may option na lagyan ng mesh heads ang ekit mo, makakatulong din ito to reduce crosstalk.

Then ofcourse nanjan ang setup ng ekit mo mismo. sangkatutak na trial and error yan constant adjusting ng sensitivity at crosstalk send and receive levels.

Good luck sir
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« Reply #709 on: August 03, 2015, 09:26:39 AM »
what i meant for expression is that the module needs to use a different sound depending on the velocity and power of the stroke. wala yung velocity component sa entry level modules.

yung midi 127 kasi is just for midi note and amplitude. nandun yun even for ringway. irerelate mo sa range  and each range will have a different sound (not exact ha, sample lang)

0-50 soft - trigger sound A
51 to 100 mid - trigger sound B
101 to 127 hard - trigger sound C

pinakaobvious yung ganitong style sa ride na nagtratransition yung sound from bow to bell depende sa lakas ng palo mo.

so kung nagsimula ka sa 1 mapapansin mo from na mahina palo, tumataas din gradually yung volume for the same sound A hanggang makatawid ka sa mid range. nagbabago volume pero hindi nagbabago yung tunog. ganun lang yung interpretation sa mga entry level modules.

AHHHH ok gets na sir  :lol: pero sir pag gumamit ng VST via midi diba mag-iiba na yun depending on the software?
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Re: Electronic/Digital Drum Equipment Thread
« Reply #710 on: August 03, 2015, 09:39:34 AM »
yan ang sakit ng lahat ng electronic drums, ang tawag diyan sir ay crosstalk or xtalk... usually effect ng vibrations ng buong rack kapag pumapalo ka sa kit kaya nag ttrigger ang ibang pads :)

yung iba para masolve yan is dinadampen or nilalagyan ng damper ang mga clamps, pati mismo rack nilalagyan ng damper sa loob para lang maabsorb ang vibrations.

Kung may option na lagyan ng mesh heads ang ekit mo, makakatulong din ito to reduce crosstalk.

Then ofcourse nanjan ang setup ng ekit mo mismo. sangkatutak na trial and error yan constant adjusting ng sensitivity at crosstalk send and receive levels.

Good luck sir

mismo.  tagal nung birthpains period namin nung ekit ko bago ko nahuli yung tamang settings to lessen crosstalk. :|
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Re: Electronic/Digital Drum Equipment Thread
« Reply #711 on: August 03, 2015, 10:09:38 PM »
for my td4kp madalas mag ka xtalk between low tom and ride before. pero may option naman yata lahat ng ekits to minimize xtalk. carpeted na floor would also help and ung higpit or pagkaloosen ng screws and wires do help eliminate xtalks.

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« Reply #712 on: August 03, 2015, 10:28:09 PM »
AHHHH ok gets na sir  :lol: pero sir pag gumamit ng VST via midi diba mag-iiba na yun depending on the software?
yung ibang advanced vst yes. naiinterpret nya halimbawa nag 16th notes ka na fill sa snare, mapapansin mo iba yung tunog ng left hand sa right hand.

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« Reply #713 on: August 03, 2015, 10:31:55 PM »
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« Reply #714 on: August 08, 2015, 08:17:38 PM »
Sir thinking of getting the roland pm-03. Any thoughts?
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Re: Electronic/Digital Drum Equipment Thread
« Reply #715 on: September 08, 2015, 09:48:30 PM »
pwede ba gamitin ang powered speaker 10" for edrums? any alternatives sa drum amps na budget friendly?
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Re: Electronic/Digital Drum Equipment Thread
« Reply #716 on: September 09, 2015, 09:59:57 AM »
pwede ba gamitin ang powered speaker 10" for edrums? any alternatives sa drum amps na budget friendly?
yes ir. IMHO, yan na yung pinaka budget friendly na solution in amplifying e drums
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« Reply #717 on: September 10, 2015, 06:20:11 AM »
Patulong naman po..San po ba pwede bumili online dto sa Asia ng Roland Products Internationally? nsubukan ko na yung sweelee several times at swabe yung services pero naubusan na ng stock ng gusto kong bilhin. Thanks

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« Reply #718 on: September 16, 2015, 04:29:54 PM »
Ok lang ba yung mga ringway sa lazada(11k , td-82 yata) for starting drummer. Yung pinsan kong bata gusto matuto, yun ang budget niya.(mas ok din edrums para di nakakabulahaw)
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« Reply #719 on: September 16, 2015, 05:15:52 PM »
Ok lang ba yung mga ringway sa lazada(11k , td-82 yata) for starting drummer. Yung pinsan kong bata gusto matuto, yun ang budget niya.(mas ok din edrums para di nakakabulahaw)


pwede na. pero lagi kong payo sa mga gustong matuto, acoustic drums muna. kasi usually, mahirap magpractice ng dynamics at proper cymbal hitting/sticking sa edrums paps. edrums sana kung mejo marunong na at may idea na. :)
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« Reply #720 on: September 16, 2015, 05:48:53 PM »

pwede na. pero lagi kong payo sa mga gustong matuto, acoustic drums muna. kasi usually, mahirap magpractice ng dynamics at proper cymbal hitting/sticking sa edrums paps. edrums sana kung mejo marunong na at may idea na. :)

+1 on this. for me, lugi yung beginner especially sa cymbal sticking and foot technique (both hi hat and kick) pag nagstart sa electric.
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« Reply #721 on: September 16, 2015, 10:15:28 PM »
Thanks ralph and sonic.

Meron naman ako acoustic drum kit he can use, yung e-drums para lang makapagpractice siya sa bahay nila kahit gabi. :-D
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« Reply #722 on: September 17, 2015, 08:48:04 AM »
Thanks ralph and sonic.

Meron naman ako acoustic drum kit he can use, yung e-drums para lang makapagpractice siya sa bahay nila kahit gabi. :-D

ah kung ganun eh pwede na yun, basta mas marami syang time for the acoustic kit  :)
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Re: Electronic/Digital Drum Equipment Thread
« Reply #723 on: September 17, 2015, 09:53:26 AM »
Thanks ralph and sonic.

Meron naman ako acoustic drum kit he can use, yung e-drums para lang makapagpractice siya sa bahay nila kahit gabi. :-D


Vic Firth Drum Mutes nalang paps! or replace with mesh heads!
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« Reply #724 on: September 17, 2015, 10:23:16 AM »

Vic Firth Drum Mutes nalang paps! or replace with mesh heads!

Hmm. Interesting, check ko din to.
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