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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #100 on: April 09, 2010, 08:32:10 AM »
Bka sa C18 650 pa din kami  :-)  Sa subscoops kasi mas ok tumunog ang C18 650 kaysa sa Jh181 at Jh186 ng crown.  Ang Sd18 panalo sa bigger boxes like wbox, L36, WSx etc.,.  :mrgreen: 

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #101 on: April 20, 2010, 01:03:21 AM »
i tried some of these before - beyma g50 800w woofers.  made in spain.  wala na yatang dealer nito ngayon dito sa pinas.  also a terrific speaker!  :mrgreen:

« Last Edit: April 20, 2010, 01:05:43 AM by Jef2 »

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« Reply #102 on: April 27, 2010, 09:24:27 PM »
i tried some of these before - beyma g50 800w woofers.  made in spain.  wala na yatang dealer nito ngayon dito sa pinas.  also a terrific speaker!  :mrgreen:



Boz ang nagpapapasok ng BeymA dati ay ang Music Box sa PampangA  :-)  Kakapasyal ng frends namin las wk.  GandA daw ng WSX18 subs nlA.  Iwan ang L36 at Subzero kwento ng frends ko.  Ang amp gamit ay Crown 3600vz.  May nakaset-up din daw na BeymA 18 pero for demo purposes na lang.  Hindi nA daw cla nag-iiimport ng Beyma.  :-)

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #103 on: April 27, 2010, 09:33:05 PM »
Pahabol din, sir Stoney,  tama ka mas malakas yung c-18elf sa c18 650el.  May nakademO na c-18elf sa subscoop sa Music Box at nacompare nla.  Sa SPL angat ang c-18elf at more natural daw yung bass nito.  :-D

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #104 on: April 27, 2010, 10:21:39 PM »
Pahabol din, sir Stoney,  tama ka mas malakas yung c-18elf sa c18 650el.  May nakademO na c-18elf sa subscoop sa Music Box at nacompare nla.  Sa SPL angat ang c-18elf at more natural daw yung bass nito.  :-D

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #105 on: April 27, 2010, 10:26:54 PM »


Php 12,200 srp at Music Box Pampanga (the source  :-D  :-D  :-D)
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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #106 on: April 28, 2010, 10:28:03 AM »
Boz ang nagpapapasok ng BeymA dati ay ang Music Box sa PampangA  :-)  Kakapasyal ng frends namin las wk.  GandA daw ng WSX18 subs nlA.  Iwan ang L36 at Subzero kwento ng frends ko.  Ang amp gamit ay Crown 3600vz.  May nakaset-up din daw na BeymA 18 pero for demo purposes na lang.  Hindi nA daw cla nag-iiimport ng Beyma.  :-)

kakaorder ko lang ng wsx18 4pcs sa music box 8-) nabenta ko na yung 'cavite-made' wsx18 ko  :wink:  try ko ang c-18elf 800watts this time.

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« Reply #107 on: April 28, 2010, 10:47:44 PM »
kakaorder ko lang ng wsx18 4pcs sa music box 8-) nabenta ko na yung 'cavite-made' wsx18 ko  :wink:  try ko ang c-18elf 800watts this time.

Boz Jef how much per box?  Do you still need a tourcase for the subs?   :?

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« Reply #108 on: April 29, 2010, 01:36:13 AM »
Do you still need a tourcase for the subs?   :?

Dude, no tourcases required for the MB subs :-D  Below needs no explanation:



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« Reply #109 on: April 29, 2010, 10:05:36 PM »
Dude, no tourcases required for the MB subs :-D  Below needs no explanation:



 :-D  :-D  :-D

 :-D silly me.  O0 nga pla parang anvil-str0ng ang b0xes ng music b0x  :wink: :wink: :wink:


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« Reply #110 on: April 29, 2010, 10:08:58 PM »
kakaorder ko lang ng wsx18 4pcs sa music box 8-) nabenta ko na yung 'cavite-made' wsx18 ko  :wink:  try ko ang c-18elf 800watts this time.

Boz jef may nabasa ako na ang wsx 18 subs "should be ground stacked vertically".  Tama ba? Tnx.  :?

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #111 on: April 30, 2010, 02:09:40 PM »
Boz jef may nabasa ako na ang wsx 18 subs "should be ground stacked vertically".  Tama ba? Tnx.  :?

sir i think this is what they meant of 'groundstacked vertically' . . .


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« Reply #112 on: May 02, 2010, 12:07:21 PM »
sir i think this is what they meant of 'groundstacked vertically' . . .



TnX sir Jef.  Nabasa k0 din dati na designed as "line array subs" kasi ang wsx kyA dapat vertical stacking kpag nagdadagdag ka ng b0xes.  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #113 on: May 03, 2010, 10:43:18 AM »
 :-D preparing to sound check the wsx18 subs with c-18elf woofers  :-D




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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #114 on: May 03, 2010, 11:07:57 AM »
 :-D


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« Reply #115 on: May 03, 2010, 01:53:19 PM »
:-D preparing to sound check the wsx18 subs with c-18elf woofers  :-D





Sir Jef sana post m0 namn yung whole Wsx set-up  :-D  Bkt pla c-18elf ang napili m0?  I remember kasi dati  yung sd18 ang nakaload sa previous Wsx subs m0.  :?

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #116 on: May 03, 2010, 04:39:27 PM »
Sir Jef sana post m0 namn yung whole Wsx set-up  :-D  Bkt pla c-18elf ang napili m0?  I remember kasi dati  yung sd18 ang nakaload sa previous Wsx subs m0.  :?

correct.  my previous wsx18 subs (from cavite) were installed with the sd 18el 1000w.  i think it's the reason on why 'nagkalampagan' ang loob ng subs ko hahaha.  we think the sd18 is too much for this sub hehe.  so we decided to get the wsx version from music box (just to be sure this time) and as far the previous and current owners of wsx here,  they recommend the c-18elf 800w.  8-)  busog na daw sa 800 watts.

hope this helps.  :-)
« Last Edit: May 03, 2010, 04:48:50 PM by Jef2 »

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #117 on: May 03, 2010, 04:55:34 PM »
i have also read from another forum that a 1000 watter speaker is an overkill in a WSX e.g. the V18 1000 and the SD18. besides, the original driver in the martin WSX is rated 600W AES, 2400 peak (http://www.martin-audio.com/products/WSX.asp). but the original driver has a high xmax. about P Audio drivers, according to the specs, mas mataas ang xmax ng C18 800w kaysa SD18. kaya okay na ang C18 800W. for me, tama na sa akin ang C18650EL.  :-D

ganda ng pag-kagawa ng WSX sa musicbox. kudos to you sir Jef!


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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #118 on: May 03, 2010, 05:08:35 PM »
i have also read from another forum that a 1000 watter speaker is an overkill in a WSX e.g. the V18 1000 and the SD18. besides, the original driver in the martin WSX is rated 600W AES, 2400 peak (http://www.martin-audio.com/products/WSX.asp). but the original driver has a high xmax. about P Audio drivers, according to the specs, mas mataas ang xmax ng C18 800w kaysa SD18. kaya okay na ang C18 800W. for me, tama na sa akin ang C18650EL.  :-D

ganda ng pag-kagawa ng WSX sa musicbox. kudos to you sir Jef!



you are correct with that sir.  the original driver for the wsx18 is indeed rated at 600watts (based from i've read din).  for the xmax issue,  i was told that p-audio uses a 'conservative' computation.  but i just set aside the fine prints and actually do an actual test  :-D  the c18 650 is also a good woofer for the wsx18.   8-)

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #119 on: May 04, 2010, 07:47:39 AM »
:-D preparing to sound check the wsx18 subs with c-18elf woofers  :-D





Boss any reviews yet??  Naikwento na sakin ito ng isang friend namin.  May tech sila na nag-part time kay Exile sa isang gig.  Ang gamit yata ni Exile before ay 4 per side na dual 18 subs.  I think Jbl Vertech subs yung.  Then they compared these Wsx using 4 per side only (single 18).  Sound spl almost same but with better throw using the Wsx :-o  Even compared sa mga L36s.  Better throw at spl pa din ang Wsx.  :lol:  :lol: Just sharing.

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #120 on: May 04, 2010, 09:19:50 AM »
:-D preparing to sound check the wsx18 subs with c-18elf woofers  :-D





WOW!!! ganda naman niyan sir jef  :-o

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #121 on: May 04, 2010, 10:27:36 AM »
i have also read from another forum that a 1000 watter speaker is an overkill in a WSX e.g. the V18 1000 and the SD18. besides, the original driver in the martin WSX is rated 600W AES, 2400 peak (http://www.martin-audio.com/products/WSX.asp). but the original driver has a high xmax. about P Audio drivers, according to the specs, mas mataas ang xmax ng C18 800w kaysa SD18. kaya okay na ang C18 800W. for me, tama na sa akin ang C18650EL.  :-D

ganda ng pag-kagawa ng WSX sa musicbox. kudos to you sir Jef!



+1. Standard wattage for 18" is 800 watts.  1000 watts for me is an overkill except if you have a powerful amplifier to drive it  :roll:

I find the C18elf very efficient.  On another forum in Europe, it's now a popular woofer that fits well onto some DIY enclosures.  8-)
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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #122 on: May 04, 2010, 04:58:12 PM »
Bros, C18-650 ang gamit daw ng Exile sa Wsx nila. Naikwento ng tech. Harhar

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Re: AnU MaS Ok sA InYoNg SUb 18" SpeAker?
« Reply #123 on: May 04, 2010, 08:17:58 PM »
Sir Jef sana post m0 namn yung whole Wsx set-up  :-D  Bkt pla c-18elf ang napili m0?  I remember kasi dati  yung sd18 ang nakaload sa previous Wsx subs m0.  :?

4pcs wsx mirror imaged on their sides. here it goes:

« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 08:21:10 PM by Jef2 »

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« Reply #124 on: May 04, 2010, 11:27:33 PM »
4pcs wsx mirror imaged on their sides. here it goes:



B0z Jef, is this the c0rrect waY of setting uP the WSX subs?  Naka-mirr0r image lagi? Papan0 kung 1 pAir lang ang dala m0? Tnx.