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Offline weedurpart2

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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2012, 02:11:03 AM »
So are we all supposed to sugarcoat dissatisfaction and be scared of voicing out criticisms with, say, the gov't, because this law is out there? With this, people can't just say: Sotto, you're a plagiarizer., and with the people we have in power being what they already are, this is dangerous and scary and oppressive.

For the most part though, i think there are true online crimes that does need to be monitored, and its about time they should... but theres a huge, huge part of me that prays they leave my pirated movies the [strawberry] alone.

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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2012, 02:34:20 AM »
So are we all supposed to sugarcoat dissatisfaction and be scared of voicing out criticisms with, say, the gov't, because this law is out there? With this, people can't just say: Sotto, you're a plagiarizer., and with the people we have in power being what they already are, this is dangerous and scary and oppressive.

This. Expressing your opinion against the government is not a crime. So pag sinabi ko bang [chewbacca] ang isang government official sa FB, pude na ako kasuhan?

Correct me if I'm dead wrong, pero sa tingin ko kaya na push ng tuluyan ang bill, eh dahil lang sa may napahiyang taong asal bata.

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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2012, 05:34:43 AM »
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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2012, 07:00:40 AM »
pang pinoy lang ba ito? what if canadian citizen? pwede ba mag sabi ng something bad in the govt?

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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2012, 08:13:30 AM »
^ i think they can't execute a law beyond the Philippine territory. So wala yun. Unless may mutual treaty on both sides.

For the full copy of the law
http://www.gov.ph/2012/09/12/republic-act-no-10175/


Now the fail parts IMO,
 - Libel - is just a small sentence within the punishable act which is highly dependent on Article 355 of the Revised Penal Code which is only a small paragraph of ...

"Art. 355. Libel means by writings or similar means. — A libel committed by means of writing, printing, lithography, engraving, radio, phonograph, painting, theatrical exhibition, cinematographic exhibition, or any similar means, shall be punished by prision correccional in its minimum and medium periods or a fine ranging from 200 to 6,000 pesos, or both, in addition to the civil action which may be brought by the offended party."

Now try to incorporate the whole internet processes in that paragraph.

- the whole section 6 of punishable act; vagueness over 9000 -
- collection of data in section 12, internet data like any property is private stuff. if it's ok to you for the government to check your snail-mail, love letters, packages and bills, maybe they can do the same with your downloads and uploads.
- section 12 collection of data, if the data is stored is in cloud application, it's totally useless.
- section 19, can you actually believe the sentence mention to 'stop someone to access data'? just get a phone and your back at the instant.

Conclusion, the law is written by noobs who don't know the internet and epic pwnage is inevitable.
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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2012, 10:00:15 AM »
lets just wait and see  :wink:
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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2012, 10:07:13 AM »
Sila din naman ang makikinabang dito.  Kawawa padin ang nakararami.

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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2012, 10:16:06 AM »
pang pinoy lang ba ito? what if canadian citizen? pwede ba mag sabi ng something bad in the govt?

Sabi sa isang interview kung Pinoy ka at nasa ibang bansa ka, pwede ka parin kasuhan.

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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2012, 10:50:23 AM »
nagiinternet ba tong mga gumawa nitong batas na to?
yada yada yada.....

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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2012, 11:13:22 AM »
E- MARTIAL LAW pffft.

Offline Musikerochan

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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2012, 11:29:06 AM »
mga ungas gumawa ng batas na yan.

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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2012, 11:42:02 AM »
Kailan ba ang effectivity ng batas na ito? excited na ako makita kung ano ang mangyayari..

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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2012, 11:43:42 AM »
Kailan ba ang effectivity ng batas na ito? excited na ako makita kung ano ang mangyayari..

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hindi ba bukas yun? hehe sino kaya unang magtatago na senador? si sotto malamang haha
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Offline PrayToYourGodz

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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2012, 12:35:27 PM »
Sya na nga ang nagnakaw sya pa ang galit


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« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2012, 12:35:57 PM »
http://www.gov.ph/2012/09/12/republic-act-no-10175/

"(b) Computer-related Offenses:" "(4) Libel. — The unlawful or prohibited acts of libel as defined in Article 355 of the Revised Penal Code, as amended, committed through a computer system or any other similar means which may be devised in the future."

"Service providers are required to cooperate and assist law enforcement authorities in the collection or recording of the above-stated information."

"Any person found guilty of the punishable act under Section 4(a)(5) shall be punished with imprisonment of prision mayor or a fine of not more than Five hundred thousand pesos (PhP500,000.00) or both."

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@rockophoria - ikaw ba yang nasa profile pic mo ? ikaw ba yung drummer dati ng 6 cycle mind na bokalista na ngayon yung tuti ba yun ? kung hinde hehe kamukha mo kasi eh


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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #41 on: October 02, 2012, 02:39:18 PM »
See you in jail


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« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2012, 02:40:05 PM »
If anything na kailangang irevise dito sa cyberlaw eh yung libel clause lang, altho I still support it sana kung magkaron man ng TRO eh dun lang sa libel clause at WAG yung buong cybercrime act.

@rockophoria - ikaw ba yang nasa profile pic mo ? ikaw ba yung drummer dati ng 6 cycle mind na bokalista na ngayon yung tuti ba yun ? kung hinde hehe kamukha mo kasi eh

Hehe actually di ako marunong mag drums men.. baka kamukha ko lang sa anggulo na yan kasi may nginunguya akong mentos sa pic na yan hehe
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« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2012, 03:21:36 PM »
dagdag raket to sa mga lawyer hahahaha.

actually this law is good tanggalin lang nila yung libel and authority pakielaman yung mga private ISP companies.

they should focus on online card theft, online identity theft and online prostitution. those are cyber crime for me

 at nakakapag taka lang ambilis napasa nitong batas na to, bakit ? dahil sa personal issue ni sotto ? hanggang ngayon di nila maipasa yung anti political dynasty hahayaan pa nila tumakbo yang si jolo revilla ? hahaha
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Offline Musikerochan

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Re: Cybercrime Law
« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2012, 03:59:28 PM »
when expressing opinion, is it considered a crime? like when i say, supot si soto?

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« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2012, 04:27:14 PM »
Para sakin din, Libel clause lang ang kinokontra ko.

may mga nagsasabi tama lang dahil ang freedom ay may limit din at dapat matutong maging responsable ng mga netizens. may punto rin yun pero...
ang Cyber Libel - up to 12 years in prison unlike sa ordinary libel na 3 or 4 lang yata(not sure exactly), tapos no need for warrants to search, block and bring down your website/blog, or even confiscate your hardware that you used to violate the anti cybercrime law. UN pa nga ang nagsabi na dapat ang Libel ay hindi na i- decriminalize na ang Libel e. tapos tayo pinalala pa.

Ang nakakainis dito, HIGH LIKELY politicians ang gagamit ng law na ito para ma silence yung mga critics nila sa internet, kitang kita naman natin kung paano nasira ang ilan sa mga politiko natin dahil sa hate campaign ng netizens (like Villar and Sotto), just in time pa sa coming elections pa, so if someone made a post against a candidate(like what netizens used to do), at pumatok ito to be significant enought para masira diskarte nung [avocado] politiko, that politician may file a case against that person, at pag panalo, his/her blog or website will be blocked, and he/she will be arrested. at pati narin ang mga nagshare at repost nito.

clearly violating our Bill of Rights

"Section 4. No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances"

kaya kaning umaga nag leave ako sa work to go to Supreme Court, I was with the group of carlos celdran and pifa.ph, and other netizens, I did not directly marched with them but later joined in front of SC to listen to the their explanations, pero after an hour nung dumating na yung mga leftist groups, with their red flags, maoist caps, and images of noynoy na binaboy, umiwas at umalis nako. haha
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« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2012, 04:32:02 PM »
"Collectively, the provisions of the law they want declared unconstitutional are the following:

-- Sec. 4 (a)(3), which includes data interference, defined as "the intentional or reckless alteration, damaging, deletion or deterioration of computer data, electronic document, or electronic data message, without right, including the introduction or transmission of viruses," in the list of cybercrime offenses;

-- Sec. 4(b)(3), which lists computer-related identity theft, defined as the intentional acquisition, use, misuse, transfer, possession, alteration or deletion of identifying information belonging to another, as one of computer-related offenses;

-- Sec. 4(c)(4), which criminalizes libel, not only on the internet, but also on "any other similar means which may be devised in the future;"

-- Sec. 5(a)(b), which identifies other offenses punishable under the law, such as: (a) Aiding or Abetting in the Commission of Cybercrime; and (b) Attempt in the Commission of Cybercrime;

-- Sec. 6, which raises by one degree higher the penalties provided for by the Revised Penal Code for all crimes committed through and with the use of information and communications;

-- Sec. 7, which provides that, apart from prosecution under the law, any person charged for the alleged offense covered will not be spared from violations of the Revised Penal Code and other special laws;

-- Sec. 12, which authorizes the real-time collection of traffic data;

-- Sec. 17, which authorizes service providers and law enforcement agencies to "completely destroy the computer data subject of a preservation and examination" order;

-- Sec. 19, which authorizes the DOJ to block access to computer data when such data "is prima facie found to be in violation of the provisions of this Act;" and

-- Sec. 20, which states that those who fail to comply with provisions of Chapter IV (Enforcement and Implementation), specifically orders from law enforcement agencies, shall face imprisonment of prision correctional (6 months and 1 day to 6 years) in its maximum period or a fine of P100,000 or both, for each noncompliance."

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/10/02/12/black-tuesday-netizens-rally-vs-anti-cybercrime-law
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Re: Cybercrime Law
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« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2012, 05:27:56 PM »
mukhang magkakaroon ng e-La Solidaridad.  :-D
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« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2012, 07:56:09 PM »
dagdag raket to sa mga lawyer hahahaha.

actually this law is good tanggalin lang nila yung libel and authority pakielaman yung mga private ISP companies.

they should focus on online card theft, online identity theft and online prostitution. those are cyber crime for me


+1 on all. We need a cyberlaw pero kung ano-ano lang ang ipapasok dun eh expect massive people opposition.
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