First Time Gear Buyer Questions Here!

[paeng16]

hanap ka ng IDOL then gayahin mo setup nya! hehehe..

I suggest you invest in good cymbals.. Kasi mabebenta mo naman yun nang magandang presyohan.

suggest ko din (kung METAL ka!)..

1) buy DROP CLUTCH for the HI HAT.. ito yung pinapalo at bibitaw ang top hihat.. para maka double-kick ka! (650 to 800 lang to men. gibraltar pa ang brand). Tapakan mo ulit yung hihat at kakgatin nya ulit yung top hihat. Ayus to men.

2) Kung may drop clutch kana.. Buy Double-kick or twin-pedal. (Gibraltar price is about 6,500 last year price).

3) Hwag kang bibili ng CRAPPY (China made) Cymbal stand. humangin lang ng konti or mapalo mo ng mali ay tutumba na yun! Ang pangit pa ng itchura. hehehe.. dagdag kalang ng mga 600 GIBRALTAR na mabibili mo.

HWAG NA HWAG KANG BIBILI NG CHINA MADE CRAPPY ITEMS. madaling masira at ang badtrip pa nyan. Baga sa GIG mismo bumigay yon! hehehe...

[chrism_rivera]

I'm planning to buy a kit, which brand do you think is the best? May tinutugtugan po kasi ako Pearl na export series ang bilis nag loose nung mga screw ng hardware.

Ano po pinaka ok dito, yamaha, tama o sonor?

If you could advise any other brand which you think is better ok din po!

Budget would be around 40Kto 60K.

Thanks and God Bless!

[thunder_god]

Might as well get a Pearl Vison Series drums from JB. Thay have a variety of Vison Series depending on the type of wood used. HW from Pearl doesn't get that loose unless battered and abused. It really depends from the user on how he plays and takes care of the kit.  JB is also on sale right now so you might want to check them out. 

[Ralph_Petrucci]

bro,

go for TAMA superstars!!!

a good kit, for a not so high price

[metalmuhlisha]

at that price range, i'd go for a TAMA (great finishes) or a MAPEX (may libreng black panther snare)

copied+pasted from black_panther's multiply:

Mapex promo

20% off on m birch  and pro maple models plus an optional free black panther 12" cherry snare (worth 11,495) or a Stagg y253 cymbal set (worth 10,995)

20%off on VX limited edition, VX jazz kit, VX standard plus a free Stagg y253 cymbal set (worth 10,995)

Mapex Drum set buyers during the promo period can get a 20% discount on their next purchase of any Stagg Cymbals or Mapex Products. They just need to show receipt of proof of purchase.

[adidas ni hudas]

Budget would be around 40Kto 60K.

laki naman ng budget mo .. kakainggit ka .. anyways, i suggest you go for TAMA superstars.. tapuz yun sobra bili mo ng cymbals .. yung extrang cymbals pwede mong donate sa kin ..

[smutdrummer]

id go for the superstar kase bias ako sa Tama brand hehehe

or pearls vision yung sparkle meron ako nakita sa trinoma, parati ko pinpuntahan yun para picturan lang

[barabbas]

Well as you can see on the post everyone here is telling you that you go for Tama superstar the strongest name on drums... if your budget is 60k shoot na shoot na sa Tama superstar custom laquered finish plus discount pa... you can get that below 60k... you will not get disappointed on the hardwares dahil Road-pro series hardwares na ang gamit ng superstar. The one that they used on starclassic series.... plus die-cast hoops already... you can check that on this link...

http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/world/distributors/frame_philippines.html

you will see the difference.... compare to other drum kits.... but still it's your choice but choose wisely.... god bless.....

[paeng16]

sa 60K budget..

Pwede ka mag gretch, pearl, tama, Ludwig etc. Pero consider mo muna to.

1) Cymbals < mahal to at baka mawalan ka nang budget for this babies.
2) Skins or bater heads. (yung mga nasa new drums kasi 1 ply lang, pag narinig mo yung mga pinstipe ma papawow ka men.).
3) double-kick or twin-pedal. < mga 7k to 8K din to. iba na kasi yung may ABANG na double-kick sa single kick eh. Kasi less than a year (for newbies) magsasawa ka sa single kick at hahanap ka din ng double-kick.
4) THRONE - a good throne like gibralter cost about 3K. Men importante ito kahit sinong drummer will agree.

So given all those things and with 60K budget, i'd go for...
1) ludwig(birch)  8,12,13,16 toms with conversion kit this is under 40K sa JB with ZBT cymbals na to.
2) Buy double-kick na gibraltar (mga 7K to 8K).
3) Gibraltar throne (3K).
4) Zildian K 12" Splash + gibraltar boom (mga 7K itong 2)
5) sukli pang PEGASUS (kasi konti nalang eh) hehehe..

That is my best estimate for the "PRESENTLY" available drum sets sa JB. AudioPhile madami ding TAMA.

Sa set na yan, you can play almost anything (metal, pop, rock, jazz, etc). Ang haba pa ng ROLLING mo (kasi 4 toms) at yan Splash K mo.. MA-AARAWS KA (hhehe).. Yung double-kick... well dagdag sa SKILL mo yan..

[paeng16]

Additional Info...

Pag maganda ang drum set mo..
1) Gaganahan kang mag practice..
2) Kapag pangit ang sound, alam mong ikaw ang sablay at hindi yung set! hehe 
3) Kahit dalhin mo sa gig, hindi ka mahihiya (kick @$$ tong set na to eh).
4) Your skill will develop faster, kasi walang problema yung set mo eh. Ikaw ang may sablay hehehe.
5) yung matirang pera, buy mo sa ACE Hardware ng mga rubber mat para pang mute. (300 lang to men) yung evans na mute kasi nasa 3K <<< Mahal 

[black_panther]

my best tip, well i would buy only from someone whom i know i can trust, knows what he is talking and most of all can supoport me with good after sales service..drums are wear and tear no matter what brand it is so availability of spare parts is a must..    

[or6]

hi. newbie lang..im enrolling for drums lessons class sa RJ Academy,

1. tama lang ba na saka ako bumili ng kit after ng lessons ko or should i get na while im on it?
2. hindi ko alam what set to buy, low budget lang din 15-20k. first drumset ko yun if ever. huli ako nakagamit ng drums dekada na, mga elementary pako and it wasnt something serious, tinry lang ako turuan ng kuya ko but hindi na natuloy.
3. may klase ba ng drums na better pang-babae? o pare-pareho lang naman?

i wanna learn formally for myself lang naman, hobby and enjoying time kahit magisa lang ako parang ganon, and ive always wanted to learn talaga and masabayan mga kantang gusto ko pagtagal. tnx.

[paeng16]

hi. newbie lang..im enrolling for drums lessons class sa RJ Academy,

1. tama lang ba na saka ako bumili ng kit after ng lessons ko or should i get na while im on it?
2. hindi ko alam what set to buy, low budget lang din 15-20k. first drumset ko yun if ever. huli ako nakagamit ng drums dekada na, mga elementary pako and it wasnt something serious, tinry lang ako turuan ng kuya ko but hindi na natuloy.
3. may klase ba ng drums na better pang-babae? o pare-pareho lang naman?

i wanna learn formally for myself lang naman, hobby and enjoying time kahit magisa lang ako parang ganon, and ive always wanted to learn talaga and masabayan mga kantang gusto ko pagtagal. tnx.

1) Better buy in-the-middle or after your lessons. Look for a set that you like and ask your teacher about it.
2) 15K to 20K budget... hmmm... hindi ba kaya 25K? sa 25K kasi ok na makukuha mong set.
3) Fusion set (or as I call it Wierd set) yung 10" 12" 14" toms. It's not so LOUD as the traditional set 12,13,16 toms. (Naka Fusion ako FYI) 

- Either get fusion and add a 16" Tom or traditional set and get 10" or ROTO TOMS hehehe. it works naman. pero I really suggest fusion set.

P.S. Hwag kang bibili ng DDRUMS.. or Kung gusto mo talaga ng DDRUMS.. Check mo yung mga HARDWARE or yung mga BAKAL.. Kasi madaling PUMUTOK or MAGCRACK yung mga yon at WALANG REPLACEMENT PARTS ANG MGA YUN.

[or6]

oic. tnx po. brand po ba yung fusion?

sir, mas maganda po kung mag sonor nalang po kayo. mas madali po kayung matututo kapag mas maganda ang mga gamit. i think sonor 505 ata yung 17k dun sa raon pero pwedeng pwede pa po tawaran. tapos yung sukli dagdagan niyo nalang po ng mga 2-3k may planet Z na po kayo. Decent na po pang practice. sulit pa po yung sonor kasi Remo na po lahat ng skins nun and yung mga hardware talagang durable. ayus din naman po yung fernando kaya lang 20k vs. 17k? wow.. i think mas maganda po ang sonor. opinion and advice lang po..

how about yung tinutukoy nya dito? ok ba to? and may nabasa din ako na TAMA brand for less than 20k? ok po ba yun? tnx!

[black_panther]

hi. newbie lang..im enrolling for drums lessons class sa RJ Academy,

1. tama lang ba na saka ako bumili ng kit after ng lessons ko or should i get na while im on it?

its better to have your own kit already so you can practice at home what you are studying2. hindi ko alam what set to buy, low budget lang din 15-20k. first drumset ko yun if ever. huli ako nakagamit ng drums dekada na, mga elementary pako and it wasnt
make it at least 25k, you can get a decent brand new brnaded drumset at that price range something serious, tinry lang ako turuan ng kuya ko but hindi na natuloy.
3. may klase ba ng drums na better pang-babae? o pare-pareho lang naman?

i dont think so, men and women drummers are created equal

i wanna learn formally for myself lang naman, hobby and enjoying time kahit magisa lang ako parang ganon, and ive always wanted to learn talaga and masabayan mga kantang gusto ko pagtagal. tnx.

then practice whatever is taught to you..practice is the key practice makes perfect

[paeng16]

oic. tnx po. brand po ba yung fusion?


how about yung tinutukoy nya dito? ok ba to? and may nabasa din ako na TAMA brand for less than 20k? ok po ba yun? tnx!

1) Nope. Fusion ang tawag kasi sa set na may 10" 12" 14" toms. While Standard set naman ay 12' 13' 16'. <<< maingay to grabe! hehehe.. mas masaya ako sa Fusion.

TAMA for less than 20K is WOOOW!! hehehe...

mas ok kung maipost mo dito yung (somewhat) actual budget natin for the set. I bet bubuhos ang post at suggestions nila dito. 

OR

I can ESCORT you during canvassing your set   

[or6]

ah. better nga siguro yung hindi grabe yung ingay.
mga 15k to 20k sana. 2nd hand / bnew.. basta sakto lang for beginner and ayos yung quality.

TAMA for less than 20K is WOOOW!! hehehe...

imposible na mura ang TAMA? yun nga ba? tnx!

[black_panther]

OR

I can ESCORT you during canvassing your set   

hehehe..ayuz!!!!!!!!!basta drummer..sweet lover

[paeng16]

ah. better nga siguro yung hindi grabe yung ingay.
mga 15k to 20k sana. 2nd hand / bnew.. basta sakto lang for beginner and ayos yung quality.

imposible na mura ang TAMA? yun nga ba? tnx!

Good/best buy na yan!! Mahal ang TAMA kasi. WOW yan!

Just tell me when kita sasamahan sa pag buy ha! 

[paeng16]

hehehe..ayuz!!!!!!!!!basta drummer..sweet lover

Friendly lang boss! 

And besides, we all experience the pains during our "NEWBIE" days right?!? Just don't want that to happen to our new "friend"! 

[or6]

hindi. wala naman akong nahanap na TAMA below 20k. na-backread ko lang yun sir..

[barabbas]

Mga kapatid i'd like to inform you that TAMA kit is not that expensive.... We have a starter kit.... Imperialstar set.... You can check out the price on store nationwide.... We used to have a 25k drumkit but that was already a discontinued model.... The Stagestar series... It's a very small kit.. Now we have the Imperialstar kit and comes with the complete set of stand.... If you have any inquiry just call me at 588-0919.... Thanks.....

[paeng16]

hindi. wala naman akong nahanap na TAMA below 20k. na-backread ko lang yun sir..

oh I see. (na excite pa naman ako!) hehehe.

during your lesson/training. Mostlikely you'd be using the standard set (12" 13" 16" toms). From there, you can determine and have a 1st hand feel of what a standard set will be like.

Then when you're familiar with the standard set, try Fusion set (10" 12" 14" toms). then you can clearly decide which works better or feels and sounds better for you.

Big toms leads to loud sound, thus, heavy metal is good for standard sets. While Fusion toms are more pop, jazzy like feel. Hope this helps and good luck!  wink

[or6]

ok thanks. sana madami pako mabasang inputs. thanks again!

[paeng16]

ok thanks. sana madami pako mabasang inputs. thanks again!

My Newbie experience (hope you can get more info from this)

Idol ko si Lars Ulrich ng Metallica pero I started as a guitar player in music (actually Pioano kasi bata palang ako gi-ne-GAY ata ako ng nanay ko eh!) ehhehehe.

After reaching my peak sa guitar, I then moved to Drums and idolize Lars Ulrich.

So I went Window-shopping and found 8K crappy drum set. This is fine with me (at first) pero I find it "wasting" 8K kung yun ang bibilin ko. So I increase my budget and ended sa DDRUM na worth 26K.

The night nang unuwi ko yung set, syempre setup ko agad (excited kasi ako hehe). During setting up, naBASAG yung lock nung Floor TOM  . So the following day, sinabi ko sa JB at papalitan daw nila. pero they also told me na "Sir next time dahan dahan lang po ang pag lock para di mabasag yung iba".

So binigyan nila ako ng replacement which is DIFFERENT COLOR and MADE  . So I find it "NOT ACCEPTABLE". After discussing it with JB people. I then decided to change to "Pearl Forum". naging 32K na hehehe.. Pero wala akong trouble sa hardware and it sounded better sa DDRUM.

Yung DDRUM ko is Standard Set while yung Pearl forum is Fusion Set. This is why I told you before, try mo muna yung 2 set and then decided. (which I decided to get Fusion set).

OK, now that I have my set, PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE hanggang naka buo na ako ng mga favorite songs ko. hehehe. At since nagimprove na yung drumming skills ko (thanks to YouTube and the movies I got from there). Gusto ko i-upgrade yung set ko.

So I got the following;
1) Gibraltar Double-pedal
2) HiHat Drop Clutch
3) Change my skins to REMO PINSTRIP and Emperor X for the snare.
4) Bought 12" K Splash, 14" & 18" China, 14" ZBT Crash and 16" A Custom medium crash.
5) Extra cymbal stands.

Moreover, when I bought the splash cymbal. 1st I bought the 10" A Custom splash. Kinabukasan sinoli at pinapalitan ko ng K 12"kasi hindi ko type yung tunog sa JB. Which the good people in JB accepted din. 

Now I am playing more complicated pieces like TOTO, old school heavy metal like Metallica Megadeth, etc.,

Now I am looking for a 16" Floor tom para mahaba haba ang rolling at mas heavy (kung kailangan) ang tom beats.

Moral of my story is..

1) Stay away from crappy items and always compare the prices with New and 2nd hand items. kasi kung konti lang ang difference eh sa New kana. May WARRANTY PA!

And in the first place, ask your self..  BAKIT BINEBENTA YUNG 2nd hand?
A) maybe may mas maganda sa market?
B) Maybe hindi nagustuhan nung unang mayari.
C) Maybe may damage na.
D) etc etc...

2) Buy using your ear or how you feel. Hwag yung sa TINGIN lang! Music is listening not looking right?! 

3) Go for GOOD or HIGH Quality items. kasi kung mag sawa ka or plano mo nang ibenta. MAGANDA ang RESALE value nya kesa sa mga crappy items.

Hope this helps and let me know kung kelan kita sasamahan ah!  hehehe