Accessibility of the art form

[william251082]

Hmmm... Ito ang mga nakikita ko:

1) Jazz and Blues Records - Kaunti lang ang albums pero meron. Kulang ang marketing, kaunti lang din ang record labels na gustong maglabas. Ang dahilan karaniwan na ay mahina ang kita sa pagbenta ng mga gayong uri ng musika.

2) Jazz and Blues Music Venues - Kaunti lang din pero meron. Ang tanong, bakit konti lang din ang naghahanap at nagpupunta?

3) Jazz and Blues Artists - Kaunti lang din pero meron. Ang tanong bakit kaunti lang din ang nakakakilala?

nkabili ko sa greenbelt dati, lumang album ni george benson, chet baker ska mga african and brazilian music pero hindi ko pa masyado alam jazz nun

ang hindi ko talaga mahanap dati jazz jam session for beginners

[jazhombie]

Basta ako mkknig nlng mhrap intimdhin tlga ang jazz.

[foom]

ang musika, gaya ng iba pang sining, ay (dapat) para sa lahat, subalit maaaring hindi maintindihan ng lahat.  ang kagandahan ng isang likhang-sining ay hindi lamang nasa likha kundi nasa paraan o proseso rin ng paglikha.
may mga taong nagagandahan sa likha lamang at mayroon ding nahuhumaling sa proseso ng pahlikha.

[william251082]

ang musika, gaya ng iba pang sining, ay (dapat) para sa lahat, subalit maaaring hindi maintindihan ng lahat.  ang kagandahan ng isang likhang-sining ay hindi lamang nasa likha kundi nasa paraan o proseso rin ng paglikha.
may mga taong nagagandahan sa likha lamang at mayroon ding nahuhumaling sa proseso ng pahlikha.

parang naalala ko yata ung pagbabasa ko ng mga filipino books ko nung high skul hehehe :lol:peace bro!
TANGKILIKIN ANG SINING

[aya_yuson]

Dapat talagang tangkilikin ang sining dahil ito ay tunay na salamangka.

The act of creation is remembering the Godhood within.
c",)

[Lahed92801]

Jazz is good. People just have to listen. They're afraid they'll LOOK corny or FIND jazz corny. When i let my friends listen to some of my fusion tunes they were hooked instantly. Led them to listen to straight ahead jazz and they loved it. 

[Lahed92801]

Jazz is good. People just have to listen. They're afraid they'll LOOK corny or FIND jazz corny. When i let my friends listen to some of my fusion tunes they were hooked instantly. Led them to listen to straight ahead jazz and they loved it. 

[nancy brew]

 

What more can we say?

'Nuff said - JAZZ IS GOOD.

[jazhombie]

What more can we say?

'Nuff said - JAZZ IS GOOD.

good is jazz...

[Lahed92801]

good is jazz...

therfore all good = jazz? 

[jazzhole04]

OT

@ Aya Yuson

sir alam nyo po ba san mga gigs ng BAT PROJECT tsaka ng BRASS MUNKEYS?
wala kong makita sa net e.

[aya_yuson]

Yung BAT Project, parang pahinga 'ata muna. Di pa bumabalik si Koko galing Tibet, eh. Tinuturuan daw niya mag-swing yung mga monk sa Tibet. May finger snap on 2 & 4 na yung mga chant nila.

Huling nabanggit sa 'kin ni Tots, may mga katogs daw silang dalawa ni Koyang na mga bagets. Took two people daw to replace one Koko at ganunpama'y medyo bitin pa rin daw in comparison. Ewan.

'Yung Brass Munkeys nama'y wala po akong ka-alam-alam sa kanila't sa iskaydule nila.

[jazzhole04]

Yung BAT Project, parang pahinga 'ata muna. Di pa bumabalik si Koko galing Tibet, eh. Tinuturuan daw niya mag-swing yung mga monk sa Tibet. May finger snap on 2 & 4 na yung mga chant nila.

Huling nabanggit sa 'kin ni Tots, may mga katogs daw silang dalawa ni Koyang na mga bagets. Took two people daw to replace one Koko at ganunpama'y medyo bitin pa rin daw on comparison. Ewan.

'Yung  Brass Munkeys nama'y wala po akong ka-alam-alam sa kanila't sa iskaydule nila.

tnx sir! hope maka jam ka ulit SINOSIKAT?

[purplehaze]

OT

@ Aya Yuson

sir alam nyo po ba san mga gigs ng BAT PROJECT tsaka ng BRASS MUNKEYS?
wala kong makita sa net e.

Brass Munkeys will play at the Penguin Gallery October 20, 2007 10:30 PM. They play once a month. Penguin Gallery is located at 604 Remedios St, Malate Manila
near the Remedios Circle..
Siguro this is the only place that they play regularly. For schedule of different bands playing please check out -->> www.rockolacafe.blogspot.com

Unfortunately kukunti nalang ang mga establishment/bars na nagsusuport sa real at tunay na 'alternative' music (hindi yung 'alternative rock or whatever) Kalimitin hindi rin ito sinusuportahan ng mga nanunuod. They would rather listen and see bands that play the music that you hear on the radio..
While a lot of people are discussing the hows and the whys of the local art scene, very very few people really watch the live music, specially jazz music. Puro na lang plano (i will watch or sayang hindi ako nakapunta, maraming ginagawa kasi ...etc etc) . Most of the time, halos wala talagang nanunuod.. And then pag wala na.. people will ask what..... tsk tsk...

 

[nancy brew]

Unfortunately kukunti nalang ang mga establishment/bars na nagsusuport sa real at tunay na 'alternative' music (hindi yung 'alternative rock or whatever) Kalimitin hindi rin ito sinusuportahan ng mga nanunuod. They would rather listen and see bands that play the music that you hear on the radio..
While a lot of people are discussing the hows and the whys of the local art scene, very very few people really watch the live music, specially jazz music. Puro na lang plano (i will watch or sayang hindi ako nakapunta, maraming ginagawa kasi ...etc etc) . Most of the time, halos wala talagang nanunuod.. And then pag wala na.. people will ask what..... tsk tsk...

 

This is sad, but true sir. It's one thing to read about such on threads like this. It's one thing to see it before your eyes.

We do 70s fusion, some Rock (Toto, Dan, Loggins, Sting, etc.), Old School rNb and Acidjazz. 

We've played for two tables because bars expect us to do most of the legwork. Yes, nag iinvite kami but the very reasons are the same as the ones listed on the prior post.

Owners want sales in the name of ROI and they couldn't care less if you play relevant music as long as the orders pour in. And when the sales fall, you get your future skeds postponed indefinitely.  You'll never be able to build a following, or even your presence felt in the community.

And it's funny beacause later on the people ask if buo pa yung banda. Ba't wala na raw naririnig na gigskeds?

Its so sad that you 'd find it funny at the same time.

Happy weekend folks.

[aya_yuson]

As it has always been, as it shall always be, Nancy Brew.

Art is never for all. And if it's for all, 't'ain't art.

But you know what? When you do it for the right reasons --- when Music itself is its own reward --- you will be taken care of.

Find your diamond, hone it tirelessly, and the Universe conspires.

Even now, when my hands haven't been performing as they've been trained to, i know this to be true. Even now --- when i hear the notes oh-so-clearly, feel the spirit filling every fiber, but am saddled with a spinal injury which leaves me with almost no tactile sensation in my hands and greatly lessened digital dexterity --- even now i would stake my life on my faith that this is true.

When your soul sings The Song, The Universe conspires.

And nothing can ever stand in its way.

Love is the absence of fear. Fear none, love all.

Keep the faith.
c",)

[jeff_proX40]

Well for me jazz is always adaptable.

when I was in elementary I use to listen to rock, pop, opm and even "boy bands" for crying out loud. hehehe Well as time went by. during my high school years I listen to Rock, progressive, metal, punk, pop, fussion, electronica, techno, trance, etch.but no boy bands...hehehe The most intruiging part during my high school years was fussion because when I first heard it its really wierd. I'm a drummer and I love new beats and complicated shuffles and beats. Fussion is very complex cause its a combination of jazz theories and rock sound. During those time's I wanna know what the roots of fussion music are so i researched alot and at the same time I knew alot of jazz drummers. I starter listening to john mclaughin not because of jazz but because of how dennis chambers do the drum beats. then shifted to chick corea because of dave weckle then another band to another until I adopt the jazz environment and I did'nt realize that I already like listening to george benson, louie armstrong, woudoji, braxton bros. even kenny g and I like it. I'm even addicted to it. During College I was addicted to progressive and jazz and right now I'm working I'm stuck with jazz...

hahaha What am I trying to say here...

Jazz is a culture you can adopt. It's a life style. It takes time for us to appreciate this kind of music. Yes jazz is stereo typically for elite, sophisticated and cultured people but I dont think it is. Every one can listen and appreciate this music as long as you want to adopt to it.


hehehe JAzZ On!!! FunKY JuAN!!

[nancy brew]

As it has always been, as it shall always be, Nancy Brew.

Art is never for all. And if it's for all, 't'ain't art.

But you know what? When you do it for the right reasons --- when Music itself is its own reward --- you will be taken care of.

Find your diamond, hone it tirelessly, and the Universe conspires.

Even now, when my hands haven't been performing as they've been trained to, i know this to be true. Even now --- when i hear the notes oh-so-clearly, feel the spirit filling every fiber, but am saddled with a spinal injury which leaves me with almost no tactile sensation in my hands and greatly lessened digital dexterity --- even now i would stake my life on my faith that this is true.

When your soul sings The Song, The Universe conspires.

And nothing can ever stand in its way.

Love is the absence of fear. Fear none, love all.

Keep the faith.
c",)

Thanks bogs.

It wears one down at times, yet we just have to keep pushing, despite the odds.

Indeed, the reward is in the creation itself.  Whatever comes as consequence, be it a break or a few filled souls, are but bonuses. It is what drove the countless hours of gigging in empty bars, and it will still be the force that keeps us in check why we do what we do.

You've reminded me of the book i read years back, THE ARTIST's WAY.

Jump, and the net will appear.  Take a step and the universe steps with you.

Sing, and the universe truly conspires.


Tuloy ang togs. 

[rjtorres]

Thanks bogs.

It wears one down at times, yet we just have to keep pushing, despite the odds.

Indeed, the reward is in the creation itself.  Whatever comes as consequence, be it a break or a few filled souls, are but bonuses. It is what drove the countless hours of gigging for a empty bars, and it will still be the force that keeps us in check why we do what we do.

You've reminded me of the book i read years back, THE ARTIST's WAY.

Jump, and the net will appear.  Take a step and the universe steps with you.

Sing, and the universe truly conspires.


Tuloy ang togs. 

Inspiring. Wala lang, i just have to say it. Very Inspiring. 

[william251082]

Sa mayayaman lang ba accessible a jazz? Specially in 3rd world countries like the Philippines.

[jeff_proX40]

Di naman ako mayaman pero I listen and play jazz??? hehehe well jazz is for all of us... hehehe

[nancy brew]

oi . buhay ulet a.

It's inevitable, dahil of the rarity of material that's why you have ot have extra resource to afford albums, etc.

Just a thought, any of you guys remember or would care to take on the following points?

1. Miles was always mentioning about his search for the 'street' sound in his musicians, and;

2. Chick (Corea) was also thrusting towards the accesibility of his music which was the reason for forming CIRCLE after RTF.

Gandang gabi pow. 

[william251082]

kung mahirap ako syempre uunahin ko muna pambili ng pagkain ko kesa makining sa jazz...

[nancy brew]

kung mahirap ako syempre uunahin ko muna pambili ng pagkain ko kesa makining sa jazz...

mismo. heheheheee..jazz o ulcer? 

[rjtorres]

mismo. heheheheee..jazz o ulcer? 

Umm.. jazz? Ayaw ko magka-ulcer.