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Title: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kulapoot on July 09, 2006, 03:56:30 AM: Sabian B8 pro. (hihat crash ride)set

san nkkabili neto at mgkano??

Salamat tlga!!
Title: Sabian B8 pro
Post by: starfugger on July 09, 2006, 07:38:12 AM: unbelievably expensive. 10k for the ride, around 8k for the hats. ewan kung magkano yung crash. sa perfect pitch po meron. im thining of selling mine for higher end stuff kaso problema ko kung wala agad akong makuhanbg replacement mababakante yung drums.
Title: Re: Sabian B8 pro
Post by: bam0120 on July 09, 2006, 08:34:18 AM: Quote from: kulapoot
Sabian B8 pro. (hihat crash ride)set

san nkkabili neto at mgkano??

Salamat tlga!!

mga 16k sya sa PP

14HH, 16 crash, 18 crash - dati free ewan ko ngaun... 20 ride

contact mo si JP ng yupangco forum.
Title: Sabian B8 pro
Post by: Gep on July 10, 2006, 12:14:45 PM: B8pro ba kamo?!
Tumigil na magbenta ng B8pro ang Yupangco e.
Surprisingly, available ito sa Audiophile. Ewan ko lang kung meron pa.

P9,880 ang performance set (14" hats, 16" crash, 20" ride)
P5,220 ang 2-piece performance set (14" hats, 20" ride)

check mo sa www.audiophilecomponents.com

(sayang dapat yun na lang binili ko dati sa halip ng ZXTi Rock set!)
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 16, 2006, 01:08:25 AM: helo po ulit sa lahat! =) tanong ko lang po which type of sabians are better in your opinion. hehe.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Miggleness on July 16, 2006, 08:01:18 AM: I would guess XS20 is better, lalo na since it costs so much more. hehe. However, some like the trashy sound of B8 over the xs20.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Eni on July 16, 2006, 11:10:52 AM: baka naman makapag iipon ka pa nyan? get AAX or AA
btw,xs20 is better that b8
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 16, 2006, 03:38:32 PM: yup, i heard b8's in a live concert once, i liked the sound and was surprised na yun pala yun b8. hehe, may nabasa lang kasi ako na mas better daw xs20's. kaya i decided to ask my fellow pinoy drummers of their opinions. hehehe. btw, magkano mga xs20's?
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Eni on July 16, 2006, 08:18:21 PM: punta sa perfect pitch or yupangco forum
Title: the Sabian thread
Post by: bulog on July 18, 2006, 02:56:29 PM: Mga drum mates, okay ba for gigs itong set na ito ng Sabian?

Medyo tight ang budget ko e, eto ung pinakamurang set na nakita ko so far.

Price: P 9,395.00 sa YAMAHA

http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?sid=ff0d252b66d3767c77093eb3c7e06aca&mod=prod&op=det&pid=1646&cid=27

Pa comment na lng po kung okay.

Thanks
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: peeves24 on July 18, 2006, 02:58:03 PM: dagdag ka na lang ng 6k+ pa para ok na, b8 performance set
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: Eni on July 18, 2006, 03:26:12 PM: Quote from: peeves24
dagdag ka na lang ng 6k+ pa para ok na, b8 performance set

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Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: bulog on July 18, 2006, 04:20:21 PM: This one po?

http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?sid=2d187180415528ce8308dc094fce16ed&mod=prod&op=det&pid=1689&cid=27

Mga sirs, malaki ba difference nila in terms of durability amd clarity ng tunog?
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: peeves24 on July 18, 2006, 08:06:04 PM: oo malaki

personal set mo ba o pangharabas lang?

kung personal set mo then dont waste your money on beginner cymbals. go for professional quality even if its 2nd hand. you might be able to buy 2 cymbals with 16k but its worth every penny you pay for. just save up again to buy another one to complete a set.

my 7.50 pesos only

o nga pala i heard jb's having a clearance sale sa e.rodriguez, check it out, you might be able to score some really good zildjians there.

ps: stay away from zht, zbt, planet z...dont be tempted by the price
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: bulog on July 19, 2006, 10:11:29 AM: Actually Sir pang gigs ko sana gagamitin e.

Medyo matagal na kc me hindi nakapag drums, kaya parang newbie n naman ako sa mga accessories.

Dati I own a Fernando drum set with New Beat Zildjian Hi-hats, Schimitar Bronze 16" & 18" crash (did I spell it right?) and a Zildjian K Jazz ride.

Nung panahon na yun, I was only 17 yrs old, so choosing a cymblas is like choosing a toy for me, kung ano sa tingin ko ung maganda un ung bili ko. Not for the sound quality pero sa hitsura and syempre price din.

Now that I dont own na any drums, Im planning to buy paunti unti.

Im in a band kasi right now and compo ung tugtugan, and balak namin na mag regular gigs doing some cover tunes from John Mayer to Dishwalla.

I would like to start sana sa Bass pedal, kasi ung nasa mga studio e sobrang inclined na....pumapalo sa paa ko. Saka hirap mag groove sa bass drum. Then a picollo snare, kasi laking factor din kung malutong ung tunog nung snare e. Then afterwards...the cymblas.....then a drum set na.

Ung bang binebenta ni BAM na Gretsch picollo snare ung yellow for 5K is mura na po ba? Maganda po ba tunog nun?

Thanks sa mga suggestions Sir's.
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: suspendead on July 19, 2006, 11:20:28 AM: Bro kung binenta mo yung New Beats mo, malaking sayang nun... Pati yung K Jazz Ride... Sayang talaga... Ok naman ang B8 kasi some pros still use them because of the trashy feel of it, thats my opinion lang... Dun naman sa snare ni Bam, mura na yun and it has a great sound, di ka lugi kung bilhin mo man yun....

Hope that helped....
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: rage_27 on July 19, 2006, 12:13:53 PM: dude mura na yung picollo ni bam.. ok na yun... :)

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Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: bulog on July 19, 2006, 12:43:55 PM: Salamat sa mga suggestions mga Sir.

Di naman po me nanghihinayang sa cymbals, kasi sa church namin ko nabenta. Dati ako rin ung drummer ng praise and worship pero nung nagka-work ako every Sundays, nag quit na ako sa Praise n Worship team. Pero nakaka-attend pa naman ako kahit papaano, and in tact pa rin ung mga cymbals.

Kay sir BAM naman, 4K pa lng kc ung money ko e, di me nakadelihensya ng 1K pandagdag sa snare nya.

So SABIAN B8's are my best choice for now.

Question po ulit sa bass pedal. Which would be my best choice :

1) a cheap double peds about 3 thousand, nakita ko sa LUMANOG Raon) or

2) ka price din na branded single pedal, like the Gibraltar na nasa 3K +.

Any suggestions po, newbie ako sa double peds, I'd like to learn to use it para pampakapal sa tugtugan. Although wala kaming repertoire na me double bass drumming. Or do I have to improve na lng my techniques sa single peds, and buy a good quality heavy duty single peds na lng?

Salamat ulit sa walang sawang comment.

Thanks.
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: peeves24 on July 19, 2006, 01:20:30 PM: get that 3k gibraltar, i have one too hehehe. yung ibang cheap pedals lalo na sa lazer, sobra yung lag nung beater. the cheap sonor pedal (2k ata) has good feel but wont last a year.

kung double peds, dont buy gibraltar kasi konti na lang yung price difference nya sa pearl at tama. maybe not pearl but definitely closer to tama.

there's nothing wrong if you buy a double pedal as a beginner. you can always use it a single pedal.

or you can always have both a double and single hehehe. tamad kasi ako kaya yung dw double peds ko sa bahay na lang tapos bumili ako ng gibraltar single pangdala sa practice.
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: bam0120 on July 19, 2006, 01:21:57 PM: okay lang yun pare.. hintay ka pa naman nya.

hehehe...

for the pedals..

kung me budget ka.... go for the high end ones na.

ako kasi bumili din ako ng p122tw na pearl.. oks naman sya... pero di sya gnon ka customizable tulad ng elims.

kung ako ikaw, ipon ka muna.. wag ka na bili raon double peds.. save it and buy higher ends..

masaya pa nman ako sa p122 to eh.. kaya oks lng.. matagal ko na din gamit to..

go for - pearl elims and tama IC. dw, masyadong mahal.

=) :twisted:
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: peeves24 on July 19, 2006, 01:28:49 PM: Quote from: bam0120
dw, masyadong mahal.

not really, i say thank the lord for ebay!

:twisted:
Title: Okay ba ang SOLAR PERFORMANCE SET W/ CYMBAL BAG?
Post by: bam0120 on July 19, 2006, 01:44:42 PM: Quote from: peeves24
Quote from: bam0120
dw, masyadong mahal.

not really, i say thank the lord for ebay!

:twisted:

swerte ka kasi... hahahha

=)
Title: B8 pro set
Post by: kulapoot on July 20, 2006, 01:34:22 AM: bro totoo b ung nsa website ng audiophile. P9880 lng ung b8 pro set(hihat, crash, ride).... san po locations nla..thanks
Title: Sabian B8 pro
Post by: peeves24 on July 20, 2006, 08:31:56 AM: baka old price list pa nila to. try to call them first to verify. nasa website nila lahat ng contact info and locations
Title: Sabian B8 pro
Post by: Gep on July 20, 2006, 12:54:43 PM: wala na talaga sa audiophile... akala ko meron pa sila nung mga old stock nun e.
Title: Sabian B8 pro
Post by: Agent_So on July 20, 2006, 07:50:51 PM: hmmm i was suppose to ask this.. diba bago lang yung website ng audiophile? so bakit nila list yung b8 pro na 9880 kung wala na pala stock nito?? please guys verify.. thanks..
Title: SABIAN Pro Sonix 14" X-Celerator Hats
Post by: bulog on July 21, 2006, 11:41:37 AM: Sir pa comment naman if okay tunog nito and meron kaya nito sa Yupangco. How much kaya ito? Wala kc sa Yupangco.com e.

http://www.sabian.com/english/webmayhem/soundcheck.cfm

Thanks
Title: SABIAN Pro Sonix 14" X-Celerator Hats
Post by: Eni on July 21, 2006, 01:04:54 PM: ipon ka pa para sa pro cymbals. :)
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 27, 2006, 12:26:29 AM: in your opinion, alin nga pala mas durable sa dalawa? i just cracked my crappy zbt crash, need a replacement, alin kaya sa dalawa? hehehe
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Gep on July 27, 2006, 10:22:13 AM: Mas matibay ang XS20... pakiramdam ko parang brittle ang bakal ng B8 e.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: inigo on July 27, 2006, 12:23:46 PM: I dunno about tibay nila, pero parang mas malakas ang sound ang xs20 kesa b8. Mas gusto ko hats and splashes ng b8pro kasi cutting. Mas ok naman sa akin ang ride and crash ng xs20 kasi parang mas buo ang tunog.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Eni on July 27, 2006, 06:06:43 PM: why talk about durability, sound nga diba.kahit na durable nga cymbals kung bad technique naman wala din.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: inigo on July 27, 2006, 06:57:07 PM: ^^agree. Plus, technique can make an average cymbal sound better than how much it costs. :)

Kung pang rehearsal lang... I'd go for durability over sound. Pag gig... I'd still go for durability, pero my consideration set has to be the "standards".... kumbaga yung mga not really far from each other and sonically significant as far as the local gigging situation is concerned. This includes unmiked drums, crappy acoustics, and the like.

Example... because I play with a heavy rock band, I don't mind gigging with Sabian B8 hats if I can't afford New Beats, kasi maraming bars use takip ng Nido for hats (figuratively, of course). Lesser "evil", kumbaga. I mean, there must be women who look better than Whitney Tyson but worse than Ashley Judd that I'd surely like to date.

The ultimate end-goal, of course, is to own a set of cymbals I think matches the sound that I have in my head. Ipon na lang as time goes on. But since medyo matagal-tagal pag-ipunan ang isang pirasong cymbal (given the eco situation sa Pinas), I'd rather be able to gig with something workable, than not gig waiting for the ideal.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 27, 2006, 09:10:20 PM: Quote from: Eni
why talk about durability, sound nga diba.kahit na durable nga cymbals kung bad technique naman wala din.

hehe, yup tama ka. siguro naconscious lang ako kasi i've already broken 2 cymbals, both are crashes. so siguro mejo napunta lang sa head ko yung durability. =)

darn, magkano nga ba ang 16" xs20 crash? malas, sa ngaun i only have 2500php, kailangan mag-ipon muna, hehehe. looks like its going to be a while before i can fully get to play my drumkit again as a whole. owels, gudluck na lang sakin. =)

thanks nga pala dun sa mga replies.

bro inigo, nicely said. =)
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Eni on July 27, 2006, 09:39:49 PM: ano current crash mo? ung okay pa ung condition
Title: Re: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on July 28, 2006, 06:58:32 PM: Quote from: omnicloud7
helo po ulit sa lahat! =) tanong ko lang po which type of sabians are better in your opinion. hehe.

sir mas high end ang xs20 kesa b8. after b8 may b8pro then pro then pro sonix tapos xs20 na.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: cvic3 on July 28, 2006, 11:34:54 PM: XS20 is b20 bronze the same metal used in AAX,AA and other high end cymbals.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 29, 2006, 12:42:11 PM: Quote from: Eni
ano current crash mo? ung okay pa ung condition

hihihihi, wala. ang current cymbal set-up ko ngaun ay:

14" zbt hi-hats = so far, i like the sound. pero i really don't know what sounds good from bad. hehe.

16" zbt crash = cracked na, maliit na crack pa lang kaya ndi pa gaano affected yung sound.

18" paiste innovations crash-ride = so far, ito pinakamahalagang cymbal ko. hehe, astig rin yung sound niya, parang pang-professional na rin, kahit newbie lang ako, hihihihi.

ayan, wala akong pangpalit sa crash, kasi kapag ginawa kong crash yung paiste ko, wala na akong ride, so i really need a new crash. hehe.

onga pala, mukhang lamang na yung xs20 ah. hihihihi
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on July 29, 2006, 12:46:19 PM: Quote from: omnicloud7
Quote from: Eni
ano current crash mo? ung okay pa ung condition

hihihihi, wala. ang current cymbal set-up ko ngaun ay:

14" zbt hi-hats = so far, i like the sound. pero i really don't know what sounds good from bad. hehe.

16" zbt crash = cracked na, maliit na crack pa lang kaya ndi pa gaano affected yung sound.

18" paiste innovations crash-ride = so far, ito pinakamahalagang cymbal ko. hehe, astig rin yung sound niya, parang pang-professional na rin, kahit newbie lang ako, hihihihi.

ayan, wala akong pangpalit sa crash, kasi kapag ginawa kong crash yung paiste ko, wala na akong ride, so i really need a new crash. hehe.

onga pala, mukhang lamang na yung xs20 ah. hihihihi

manipis talaga ang zbt. madali talaga mapunit yan. try mo mag sabian xs20 o kaya yung mas hi end like aa,aax,hhx di ka magsisisi :wink:
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 29, 2006, 12:53:17 PM: yup, i really need to think twice next time bago ako bumili ng cymbals. hehe, tanong lang, are xs20 cast cymbals? hihihi. gusto ko nga bumili nung mga AA's and HH's eh, pero mejo konti lang budget ko ngaun. hehe
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on July 29, 2006, 01:11:47 PM: Quote from: omnicloud7
yup, i really need to think twice next time bago ako bumili ng cymbals. hehe, tanong lang, are xs20 cast cymbals? hihihi. gusto ko nga bumili nung mga AA's and HH's eh, pero mejo konti lang budget ko ngaun. hehe

kahit xs20 panalo ka na dun. try mo din pro sonix ok din yun.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 29, 2006, 01:23:04 PM: Quote from: jun_BALARAW
Quote from: omnicloud7
yup, i really need to think twice next time bago ako bumili ng cymbals. hehe, tanong lang, are xs20 cast cymbals? hihihi. gusto ko nga bumili nung mga AA's and HH's eh, pero mejo konti lang budget ko ngaun. hehe

kahit xs20 panalo ka na dun. try mo din pro sonix ok din yun.

yay! hehe. tanong uli (sori kung dami tanong hehe). ang palagi kong nakikita sa mga stores ay mga b8's eh. san mkakabili ng xs20 crash? :D
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on July 29, 2006, 01:33:38 PM: dumirekta ka na lang sa yupanco main showroom ng sabian sa makati para sure. tawag ka muna dun. kasi sa mga branch talaga minsan di kumpleto. 1 set ba balak mo?
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Eni on July 29, 2006, 03:39:50 PM: Quote from: omnicloud7
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
Quote from: omnicloud7
yup, i really need to think twice next time bago ako bumili ng cymbals. hehe, tanong lang, are xs20 cast cymbals? hihihi. gusto ko nga bumili nung mga AA's and HH's eh, pero mejo konti lang budget ko ngaun. hehe

kahit xs20 panalo ka na dun. try mo din pro sonix ok din yun.

yay! hehe. tanong uli (sori kung dami tanong hehe). ang palagi kong nakikita sa mga stores ay mga b8's eh. san mkakabili ng xs20 crash? :D

ask em -.-
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 29, 2006, 03:42:28 PM: hehe, not really, kahit xs20 crash lang. =) yung crash nung xs20 is around 6k+, tama ba? hehe.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on July 29, 2006, 03:53:06 PM: Quote from: omnicloud7
hehe, not really, kahit xs20 crash lang. =) yung crash nung xs20 is around 6k+, tama ba? hehe.

di ko alam exact price eh. good luck sa pagbili mo.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 29, 2006, 03:56:17 PM: Quote from: jun_BALARAW
Quote from: omnicloud7
hehe, not really, kahit xs20 crash lang. =) yung crash nung xs20 is around 6k+, tama ba? hehe.

di ko alam exact price eh. good luck sa pagbili mo.

tenkyu pow. =) hehehe
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Miggleness on July 29, 2006, 05:34:35 PM: XS20 is better for me, soundwise. Medyo namamahalan nga lang tlaga ako sa kanya.

you might also want to check out 2nd hand cymbals and zildjian cymbals on sale sa JB. You can get new Beats 14" + 20" K ride for 17-18K if you watchout for good deals
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on July 29, 2006, 05:45:50 PM: Quote from: Miggleness
XS20 is better for me, soundwise. Medyo namamahalan nga lang tlaga ako sa kanya.

you might also want to check out 2nd hand cymbals and zildjian cymbals on sale sa JB. You can get new Beats 14" + 20" K ride for 17-18K if you watchout for good deals

cool! astig yun a. kailangan ko nga mag look-out, pero sa ngaun, i'm on a tight budget kasi e. :(
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 01, 2006, 12:35:42 AM: pahabol uli na tanong. =)

are xs20's cast cymbals? if so, ito ba yung mga tipong cymbals na gumaganda ang tunog habang tumatagal? hehe.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Eni on August 01, 2006, 03:27:52 PM: xs20 = cast

why limit urself? save up buy AA/AAX/HH/HHX. cheap lng sabian
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 01, 2006, 06:26:30 PM: Quote from: Eni
xs20 = cast

why limit urself? save up buy AA/AAX/HH/HHX. cheap lng sabian

yup, i think i will. :D hopefully, i'll have the patience to save up. alam kong talgang worth it yung pag-ipon at antay. hehe.

thanks uli! :lol:
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: legnacilyz on August 02, 2006, 12:33:19 AM: I have used the xs20 on a studio.. Ayos nman ung tunog niya.. prang bright ung ung tunog nya.. ung Ride na ngamit ko is ung medium ride ng xs20.. crashable.. ganda ng tunog.. magkano po b mga sir ang isang set neto? hat, crash and ride? san mkakabili ng pinakamura neto?

cheers!!
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 08, 2006, 09:03:42 PM: Quote from: legnacilyz
I have used the xs20 on a studio.. Ayos nman ung tunog niya.. prang bright ung ung tunog nya.. ung Ride na ngamit ko is ung medium ride ng xs20.. crashable.. ganda ng tunog.. magkano po b mga sir ang isang set neto? hat, crash and ride? san mkakabili ng pinakamura neto?

cheers!!

helo uli! hehe, sa tingin ko mga 20k+ yung xs20 set.

update lang: nagpabili na ako ng xs20 crash, sabi ng parents ko sila na lang daw at ndi ako isinama dun sa pagbili. pag-uwi nila, sabi daw out of stock yung store, pumunta sila sa ibang store at iba na rin ang binili.

sobrang napatalon ako when it was a k dark crash thin!! grabe ang saya ko na ngaun. they said na nabili nila ito for sale. 7k lang daw yung gastos, pero para sakin sobrang laking gastos na rin nun. hehe.

thanks po ulit mga sirs sa inyong mga replies. =)
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: legnacilyz on August 08, 2006, 09:11:48 PM: helo bro!

HUWAW!!! mahal na mahal k ng parents mo! surprise ata ung pagbili nila ng K Dark Crash Thin! kakatuwa nman.. kakainggit ka! ahuhuhuhuhu.. i hope someday my parents would do the same too someday.. someday.. T_T

hehehe

bro, musicians din ba parents mo?

cheers!
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 08, 2006, 09:13:08 PM: Quote from: omnicloud7
Quote from: legnacilyz
I have used the xs20 on a studio.. Ayos nman ung tunog niya.. prang bright ung ung tunog nya.. ung Ride na ngamit ko is ung medium ride ng xs20.. crashable.. ganda ng tunog.. magkano po b mga sir ang isang set neto? hat, crash and ride? san mkakabili ng pinakamura neto?

cheers!!

helo uli! hehe, sa tingin ko mga 20k+ yung xs20 set.

update lang: nagpabili na ako ng xs20 crash, sabi ng parents ko sila na lang daw at ndi ako isinama dun sa pagbili. pag-uwi nila, sabi daw out of stock yung store, pumunta sila sa ibang store at iba na rin ang binili.

sobrang napatalon ako when it was a k dark crash thin!! grabe ang saya ko na ngaun. they said na nabili nila ito for sale. 7k lang daw yung gastos, pero para sakin sobrang laking gastos na rin nun. hehe.

thanks po ulit mga sirs sa inyong mga replies. =)

astig ah. pagkakataon nga naman oh.......
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 08, 2006, 09:25:04 PM: yup. biglang bigla talaga ako dun. sobrang sinuwerte ako. :D

bro legnacilyz: nope di musicians parents ko. sa totoo lang, di nga sila gaano nakikinig ng music eh. :P

cheers to all. =)

(grabe, kailangan ko na talaga toh ingatan. must learn the right technique sa pagbasag este pagpalo ng crash. :lol: )

hehehe
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: legnacilyz on August 08, 2006, 09:34:28 PM: bro, mraming techniques in hitting cymbals.. and with it, iba't ibang sound maari mong maproduce! by hitting the cymbals using only the tip of the stick and etc.. hirap explain eh! hehehe.. bsta wag mxadong dikdikin ang pagpalo ng cymbals! mgccrack tlga yan!

enjoy! cheers!
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 08, 2006, 10:17:48 PM: pano kaya kung planet Z nakuha ng parents mo? :roll:
ano kaya reaction mo? #-o
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: Eni on August 08, 2006, 10:27:52 PM: Quote from: jun_BALARAW
pano kaya kung planet Z nakuha ng parents mo? :roll:
ano kaya reaction mo? #-o

hahaha gawin mo na lng freesbie. :lol:
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 08, 2006, 10:34:55 PM: Quote from: Eni
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
pano kaya kung planet Z nakuha ng parents mo? :roll:
ano kaya reaction mo? #-o

hahaha gawin mo na lng freesbie. :lol:

siguro imbis na matuwa ka... eh isang linggo kang bad trip.. noh??? hehehe
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: legnacilyz on August 09, 2006, 01:49:41 AM: Quote from: Eni
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
pano kaya kung planet Z nakuha ng parents mo? :roll:
ano kaya reaction mo? #-o

hahaha gawin mo na lng freesbie. :lol:

a DEADLY freesbie! :twisted: buhay ang nakataya sa laro! pagalingan ng salo! pag nagkamali, GAME OVER.. dedo.. hehehe.. peace!

cheers!
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 09, 2006, 01:06:22 PM: Quote from: legnacilyz
Quote from: Eni
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
pano kaya kung planet Z nakuha ng parents mo? :roll:
ano kaya reaction mo? #-o

hahaha gawin mo na lng freesbie. :lol:

a DEADLY freesbie! :twisted: buhay ang nakataya sa laro! pagalingan ng salo! pag nagkamali, GAME OVER.. dedo.. hehehe.. peace!

cheers!

tanggal ulo mo pag tumama sa leeg hehehe :lol:
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 09, 2006, 10:38:03 PM: hahaha. FREESBIE!! :D

hmm, well, siguro nga bad3p ako nun. hahahaha pero alam nila yung quality nung planet z since yun yung first cymbals ko at ang bilis pa magcrack kaya ndi talaga nila bibilhin yun.

pero kung binili nga nila dadabog ako dito! joke lang. =) bad3p lang siguro :P hehehe
Title: Sabian XS thin crash
Post by: pinoymusika on August 11, 2006, 02:28:20 AM: Ok I got this Sabian XS20 16" thin crash... never been used, super kinis. Anybody know how much this goes for locally?
Title: Sabian XS thin crash
Post by: ciro on August 11, 2006, 08:42:28 PM: mga around 7K ata yan sa yupangco
Title: Re: Sabian XS thin crash
Post by: suspendead on August 12, 2006, 12:16:01 AM: Quote from: pinoymusika
Ok I got this Sabian XS20 16" thin crash... never been used, super kinis. Anybody know how much this goes for locally?

Sir sa Yupangco and other branches and affiliates ng Yupangco, per set ata bentahan nyan. I dont think they sell it individually. Best way to know is to call Yupangco and ask for JP, he can help you out sir...
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: markthevirtuoso on August 24, 2006, 03:25:00 AM: Musta ba tunog ng XS20? Do they sound like real proper cymbals? Mukhang ok kasi. At masmura ng konti kahit papaano. :)
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 25, 2006, 12:02:31 AM: they say that xs20's are the BEST starter-set cymbals. way better than zildjian ZBT,ZXT/i,ZHT. hehe. :D
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: legnacilyz on August 25, 2006, 12:09:41 AM: yup! xs20 is one of the best starter cymbal sets! xs20s is enough to compliment your drumming needs.. its like having a pro set in a low price! heheehe
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: markthevirtuoso on August 25, 2006, 04:37:45 AM: Ok. I guess i'll go XS20. thanks for the replies mga sirs. :D
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: autoexec on August 25, 2006, 09:47:01 AM: :D
Title: xs20's
Post by: kibohead on August 25, 2006, 07:07:26 PM: man as far as i can recall Xs20 23kplus.
yeah Xs20's are made with good material and are casted, mid-tone compared to the B8pro's wich are kind of a high pitched cymbal, the Xs20's rock hats are much prefered rather than the mediums, but the best Xs20 is their 18" crash which was an anniversary item.
hope it helped you.
Title: b8's or xs20's?
Post by: toybitz on August 26, 2006, 04:33:33 AM: xs20...

regards kay Champ Bro...
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 01, 2006, 09:02:52 AM: help guys balak ko mag upgrade ng hats. pinagpipilian ko aax 14" stage hats or aax 13" fusion hats

tulong naman ako mag decide..

thanks!
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 01, 2006, 09:03:17 AM: help guys balak ko mag upgrade ng hats. pinagpipilian ko aax 14" stage hats or aax 13" fusion hats

tulong naman ako mag decide..

thanks!
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: suspendead on September 01, 2006, 09:15:21 AM: STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS... Hehehehe
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: bugoy on September 01, 2006, 09:25:03 AM: kung ako nasa sitwasyon mo i'll go for the 13" fusion hats hehehe matagal na ako naghahanap niyan eh na mura
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 01, 2006, 10:05:12 AM: Quote from: suspendead
STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS...STAGE HATS... Hehehehe

ang daming stage hats niyan ah.... sigurado mahal yan. hehehe
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: suspendead on September 01, 2006, 01:26:05 PM: Ang maganda sa AAX Stage hats is its still Crisp even when it is closed, para sakin, walang binatbat ang new beat sa stage hats hehehe, opinion lang, walang magagalit hehehe...
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 01, 2006, 02:07:23 PM: Quote from: suspendead
Ang maganda sa AAX Stage hats is its still Crisp even when it is closed, para sakin, walang binatbat ang new beat sa stage hats hehehe, opinion lang, walang magagalit hehehe...

oo madami nga nagsasabi maganda ang stage hat,. pero nung pinakinggan ko ang sounds nila sa sabian.com mas nagustuhan ko yung sound ng fusion hats.. kaya ayun. nag dalawang isip tuloy ako hehehe
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: toybitz on September 01, 2006, 04:32:09 PM: ganda ng chic and solid ang stick tone ng 13"

whereas yun 14" is washier...

depends on you want Bro. parehong maganda. I want to have that 14" Stage for different applications.
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 01, 2006, 04:51:47 PM: Quote from: toybitz
ganda ng chic and solid ang stick tone ng 13"

whereas yun 14" is washier...

depends on you want Bro. parehong maganda. I want to have that 14" Stage for different applications.

salamat sa mga payo! pero naguguluhan pa din ako.... hmmmmm antay pa ko mga comments para mas mapag desisyunan ko
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: Miggleness on September 02, 2006, 10:51:54 AM: sabi malakas daw ang tunog ng fusion hats. At oo, ganda nga ng sizzle nya sa sabian site. kakaiba.
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 02, 2006, 04:17:08 PM: Quote from: Miggleness
sabi malakas daw ang tunog ng fusion hats. At oo, ganda nga ng sizzle nya sa sabian site. kakaiba.

oo nga tol. napakinggan ko sa site. maganda nga ang tunog ng fusion hats kesa sa stage hats para sakin...

ano fusion hats na ba kunin ko??? baka may aawat pa hehehe
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: panterica on September 02, 2006, 04:24:42 PM: i'd go for the stage hats
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 02, 2006, 04:38:34 PM: Quote from: panterica
i'd go for the stage hats

nice mark! pinigilan mo agad ako ah.. sige antay pa ko mga comments....
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: panterica on September 02, 2006, 04:51:03 PM: Quote from: jun_BALARAW
Quote from: panterica
i'd go for the stage hats

nice mark! pinigilan mo agad ako ah.. sige antay pa ko mga comments....

hehehe ganda kasi tunog ng stage hats pre, para sa kin ha, kesa sa fusion hats.
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: toybitz on September 02, 2006, 05:02:25 PM: Quote from: panterica
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
Quote from: panterica
i'd go for the stage hats

nice mark! pinigilan mo agad ako ah.. sige antay pa ko mga comments....

hehehe ganda kasi tunog ng stage hats pre, para sa kin ha, kesa sa fusion hats.

testingin mo nalang Jun.

da best jan, ikaw mag decide dahil ikaw gagamit.

balitaan mo kami.
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 02, 2006, 05:47:34 PM: Quote from: toybitz
Quote from: panterica
Quote from: jun_BALARAW
Quote from: panterica
i'd go for the stage hats

nice mark! pinigilan mo agad ako ah.. sige antay pa ko mga comments....

hehehe ganda kasi tunog ng stage hats pre, para sa kin ha, kesa sa fusion hats.

testingin mo nalang Jun.

da best jan, ikaw mag decide dahil ikaw gagamit.

balitaan mo kami.

ok bro.. may nagbebenta na kasi ng fusion. kaso nagdadalawang isip ako bilhin. ang mahal kasi. 2nd hand yung fusion niya pero ang benta niya is 9.5k mahal ata masyado. si pareng suspendead nakakuha ng aax stage hats 4.5k lang. (sana ganun din ako) sa ngayon wala pa namang nag oofer ng stage hats.
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: bangbus on September 02, 2006, 09:12:06 PM: 13" AAX Fusion hats no question about it. my very first high-end cymbal. i miss it so much. i was choosing between stage and fusion too before, i chose the latter. you have to hear them upfront so you'll know what works best for you.

Listen/watch Incubus' Jose Pasillas. :D
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: Eni on September 02, 2006, 10:03:30 PM: definitely aax stage hats...
wak mo masyado pagbasihan ung mga sound clips try them personaly...
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: suspendead on September 03, 2006, 04:19:04 AM: Jun AAX Stage hats bro...

Eto lang tignan mo, How come you see more people selling Fusion hats but you have trouble looking for people selling Stage hats??? Maybe because its better and people who have them doesnt want to let go of them...

Ok ba....?
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 03, 2006, 08:11:52 AM: :shock: ano ba yan! gulong gulo na ko. hati ang opinyon ninyo eh......
pareng suspendead patesting naman ng stagehats mo? pwede? hehehe
parehas kong susubukan.......
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 03, 2006, 08:15:37 AM: pero mukhang lamang dito ang stage hats..

kahit s PD stage hats ang sinasabi nila..
lalo nung sinabi ni JP na stage hats ang kunin ko.. kasi alam niya tugtugan namin eh..........

siguro stage hats na ko..

SUSPENDEAD BILHIN KO STAGE HATS MO 6k :roll:
hehehehehhe
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: drummer_boy17 on September 03, 2006, 08:45:16 AM: STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
STAGE HATS!!
..hehe.. :D :D :D
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 03, 2006, 09:48:55 AM: ano bang mas versatile?

anong bagay sa tugtugan namen? rock, heavy rock, prog rock...
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: bolshoi on September 03, 2006, 11:41:57 AM: hey guys,

i'm planning to buy just a sabian crash muna then hi-hats and ride will follow. :D

suggest naman po sirs kung anong klaseng sabian.

or zildjian, meinl, wuhan kaya?

my type of music: funky, rock, alternative.

thanks
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: pmack on September 03, 2006, 12:57:13 PM: hi!
please refer to this thread.
maganda yung crash na binebenta niya: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=195927#195927
PEACE!
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: Eni on September 03, 2006, 03:01:14 PM: Quote from: jun_BALARAW
ano bang mas versatile?

anong bagay sa tugtugan namen? rock, heavy rock, prog rock...

EY EY EX STEYGE HAUTZ AHIHI :D FTW!

TRY Them personaly bago bili 8)
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: Eni on September 03, 2006, 03:13:44 PM: um,try mo AAX or HH. ganda mga cymbals jan.
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: suspendead on September 03, 2006, 07:23:14 PM: Bro just tell me when you wanna try the hats, basta gabi lang, i have during the day eh. Basta AAX Stage hats pa rin ang the best hehehe...
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: suspendead on September 03, 2006, 07:36:01 PM: If you're in a budget, I suggest you look at what Jun_Balaraw is selling. Its in the mid-level and in good condition, Bagay sya sa funky sond coz its not too bright, sakto lang....
Title: aax stage hats the best
Post by: Kuldramer on September 04, 2006, 10:23:24 AM: mas maganda ang AAX Stage hats sir

kasi sya ang pinakaversatile na hihat. yan kasi ang hihat na gamit ko e. he he he
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: Gep on September 04, 2006, 10:51:13 AM: Stage hats ka na lang, natatapangan ako sa fusion kapag open e.
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: adpm on September 05, 2006, 02:35:41 PM: im selling my never been used 10" Zildjian Edge Flash splash for only 3k. and 6" Zildjian Edge Flash Splash for only 2.5k. you might be interested? 09162443413
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: bolshoi on September 06, 2006, 10:17:10 PM: Quote from: adpm
im selling my never been used 10" Zildjian Edge Flash splash for only 3k. and 6" Zildjian Edge Flash Splash for only 2.5k. you might be interested? 09162443413

san store ko pede makita or matest yang mga zildjian edge cymbals?
di ko pa natry or narinig pano tumunog yan.

thanks
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: ayoice on September 12, 2006, 10:43:54 PM: u can try on any JB store... :D
Title: Re: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: pinoymusika on September 13, 2006, 01:29:52 PM: Quote from: bolshoi
hey guys,

i'm planning to buy just a sabian crash muna then hi-hats and ride will follow.

You need to state your price range as well, like all brands Sabians have entry level models to high end... Check out their website!

I think the Xs20s are somewhat in the middle, like a decent sounding but reasonably priced line.
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: bolshoi on September 13, 2006, 04:03:38 PM: ok sir.

sa meinl or wuhan. 6k below na budget for crash,ano ma recommend
or kahit 2nd hand sabian or zildjian.

thanks
Title: Sabian HHX Evolution Series
Post by: Bammbamm on September 13, 2006, 07:50:29 PM: San ba maka score nito ng "mas mura" jan pinas?
Title: Sabian HHX Evolution Series
Post by: ayoice on September 13, 2006, 07:57:01 PM: havent seen any here. hahaha
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: bolshoi on September 13, 2006, 10:10:35 PM: good day sirs,

help me decide what to buy. i'm not familiar sa sounds ng mga
cymbals na to.

san store ko ba pwedeng i-try para marinig tong mga to?

genre: funky, rock & alternative

Sabian XS20 Rock Crash Cymbal
The medium-heavy Sabian XS20 Rock Crash Cymbal adds extra metal and a bigger bell to boost power for more volume, greater attack, and penetration. Bl...

Sabian XS20 Medium-Thin Crash Cymbal
Combining the fast response, bright tonality, and a touch of power, this is a very versatile cymbal in just about any setup. Blending Sabian B20...

Sabian AA Medium Crash Cymbal
Aggressive attack is full, loud, and very effective in high-volume playing.

thanks
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: autoexec on September 14, 2006, 12:11:44 AM: dun na ko sa Sabian XS20 Rock :D
Title: Sabian HHX Evolution Series
Post by: drumster on September 14, 2006, 05:03:04 AM: Sabian is distributed in the Philippines by Yupangco Music.

I believe they have some HHX Evolution cymbals in stock right now. I'm planning to buy a set soon.

Tamang-tama, Mr. JP Buduan of Yupangco Music just registered here in this forum (username: jpmb). I'm sure he can help you guys with your Pearl and Sabian product needs hehehe! 8)
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: bolshoi on September 14, 2006, 09:41:39 AM: :D
Title: Re: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: bolshoi on September 14, 2006, 09:45:34 AM: Quote from: pinoymusika
Quote from: bolshoi
hey guys,

i'm planning to buy just a sabian crash muna then hi-hats and ride will follow.

You need to state your price range as well, like all brands Sabians have entry level models to high end... Check out their website!

I think the Xs20s are somewhat in the middle, like a decent sounding but reasonably priced line.

how much ba Xs20 here sa pinas?
pabili sana ko sa friend ko sa canada.
may alam ba kayong store sa canada selling
this item?

thanks
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: jpmb on September 14, 2006, 10:56:41 AM: heeya bolshoi, jp here from the sabian dept. , you can call me up at 899-9804 or pm me regarding sabain products, yes we still have the xs20 set that comes with the free 18 crash, thats the 25th anniv. edition, you can also go for the per piece if you want
Title: Re: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: pinoymusika on September 14, 2006, 11:10:46 AM: Quote from: bolshoi

how much ba Xs20 here sa pinas?
pabili sana ko sa friend ko sa canada.
may alam ba kayong store sa canada selling
this item?

You can use this as a guide re: online prices
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/perc/navigation?q=xs20

You can also ask your friend to get em online for better deals...

Sometimes they go on sale though, in stores like Guitar Central - discounts are so low and they never sell them at list. I think I bought my XS20 16" thin crash for something like $89. :)
Title: Re: Sabian HHX Evolution Series
Post by: Gep on September 14, 2006, 11:12:30 AM: Quote from: Bammbamm
San ba maka score nito ng "mas mura" jan pinas?

Hindi "mas mura", pero siguro "discounted". :wink:
Title: Sabian HHX Evolution Series
Post by: jpmb on September 14, 2006, 11:24:04 AM: hi you can call us up at 8999804.. wer expecting our sabian shipment this month=) that includes the hhx evolution ozone crash..

jp buduan
bea lao
sabian dept
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: bolshoi on September 14, 2006, 02:53:52 PM: suggestions pa po.

thanks
Title: Re: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: bolshoi on September 14, 2006, 03:06:38 PM: Quote from: pinoymusika
Quote from: bolshoi

how much ba Xs20 here sa pinas?
pabili sana ko sa friend ko sa canada.
may alam ba kayong store sa canada selling
this item?

You can use this as a guide re: online prices
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/perc/navigation?q=xs20

You can also ask your friend to get em online for better deals...

Sometimes they go on sale though, in stores like Guitar Central - discounts are so low and they never sell them at list. I think I bought my XS20 16" thin crash for something like $89. :)

aside from the 89U$ how much did you pay for the shiping?

thanks
Title: Sabian HHX Evolution Series
Post by: Bammbamm on September 14, 2006, 06:35:22 PM: Quote from: jpmb
hi you can call us up at 8999804.. wer expecting our sabian shipment this month=) that includes the hhx evolution ozone crash..

jp buduan
bea lao
sabian dept

Waaaaah! wala ako sa pinas ngayon e #-o
Pero pwede ka ba mag quote ng price dito?..o kya PM mo ko bro! :D
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: marxlenin on September 14, 2006, 07:03:36 PM: If you're on a budget... get the XS20 .. maraming choices din sa AA line, fave ko yung EL SABOR kaso lang eh baka nde bagay sa music mo.
Title: Re: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: pinoymusika on September 14, 2006, 08:02:32 PM: Quote from: bolshoi

aside from the 89U$ how much did you pay for the shipping?

Nothing cause I packed it in my suitcase :) It was a guitar center store, and i was just browsing for the usual accessories (sticks, stick bag) and picked up the cymbal as an impulse buy because it was cheap :)

For shipping tips the guy to ask is panterica, he ships snares to the Phils via FedEx! Personally I like balikbayan box shipments for ordering stuff (non drum related though) because there is no limit on weight :) But it takes a month to get delivered to your house. You'll have to have the gear delivered to a house and have your relatives pack it and reship via balikbayan box courier though, so they better love you lots to take the trouble, hehehe
Title: Sabian entry-level cymbals
Post by: jcbska on September 14, 2006, 08:45:04 PM: ano po ba pinag kaiba ng mga b8? b8rock, b8pro, b8 performance, ano po pinag kaiba nila ? alin ang mganda?

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Title: Sabian entry-level cymbals
Post by: drumster on September 14, 2006, 08:50:57 PM: This should answer your inquiry...

http://www.sabian.com/english/cymbals/cymbals_series.cfm

8)
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: kimboy on September 14, 2006, 10:17:49 PM: pra mktulong sa sounds.. try this link sir..

Sabian.com (http://www.sabian.com/english/webmayhem/soundcheck.cfm)

yupangco ang dealer ng sabian.. tapos ung audiophile nag bebenta na rin ng sabian.. check nyo po site..

Audiophile (http://www.audiophilecomponents.com/index.php)

- thanks :)
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: legnacilyz on September 14, 2006, 10:26:03 PM: suggestion ko ay..

-pag pure rock ang tugtugan mo, get xs20 rock crash
-pag iba't ibang styles or genres ang tirada, get xs20 medium-thin crash
-havnt heard the sabian AAs yet.. sorry

just my 2 cents!

cheers!!!
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: peeves24 on September 14, 2006, 11:08:40 PM: AA > xs20

why even choose? get AA :lol:
Title: i'm planning to buy sabian crash. suggestions pls.
Post by: jeva on September 15, 2006, 01:05:44 AM: Quote from: bolshoi
ok sir.

sa meinl or wuhan. 6k below na budget for crash,ano ma recommend
or kahit 2nd hand sabian or zildjian.

thanks

tama sila ung price dictates the category and soung... ung HH (hand hammered) maganda
recommend ko ung 14" ko n HH dark crash benta ko to buy 16"... hehehe
Title: Sabian entry-level cymbals
Post by: jpmb on September 15, 2006, 10:47:22 AM: hi, jp here from the sabian dept., hope this helps you

b8- entrly level broze sheet of sabain
b8 rock- this are much thicker cymbals thatn the regular b8's
b8 perfomance- this is the boxed set that includes 16 crash, 20 ride, 14 hats

b8 pro- this is the higher version of b8 and this has higher picth thatn b8 and comes in brilliant finish

feel free to visit us here in our sabain showroom

339 gil puyat avenue buendia makati city
tel num 8999804

thanks

JP Buduan
SABIAN DEPT.
Title: Sabian entry-level cymbals
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 15, 2006, 04:54:22 PM: Quote from: jpmb
hi, jp here from the sabian dept., hope this helps you

b8- entrly level broze sheet of sabain
b8 rock- this are much thicker cymbals thatn the regular b8's
b8 perfomance- this is the boxed set that includes 16 crash, 20 ride, 14 hats

b8 pro- this is the higher version of b8 and this has higher picth thatn b8 and comes in brilliant finish

feel free to visit us here in our sabain showroom

339 gil puyat avenue buendia makati city
tel num 8999804

thanks

JP Buduan
SABIAN DEPT.

oi si pareng JP andito na... jun jun to balaraw ni miguel
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 15, 2006, 05:03:25 PM: mag AA ka na... basta sabian eto na mga pagpilian mo. AA,AAX,HH,HHX
kasi ang XS20 pasok pa din yan sa entry level ng sabian
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: drummer_boy17 on September 15, 2006, 05:36:56 PM: Sabian AA Medium Crash Cymbal.. Pero magnda rin yun XS20 Rock!
Title: help.. sabian cymbals
Post by: bolshoi on September 15, 2006, 08:38:58 PM: maraming salamat po mga sir.
Title: Sabian entry-level cymbals
Post by: jcbska on September 17, 2006, 10:16:19 AM: thnx for the help kuya jp and kuya dio.. :D
Title: Sabian entry-level cymbals
Post by: jpmb on September 18, 2006, 11:22:58 AM: hey jun musta, jcbska, you're very welcome man, you can call me up 899-9804 for more info, feel free to visit the sabain showroom
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on October 16, 2006, 06:58:13 PM: Matapos ang matagal na pagaantay..........

naka pili na ko.. hehehe

last day nagkaroon kami ng gig sa dapitan then merong may dalang stage hats na frend ko din.. so tinry ko siya... then kinabukasan nag try ako ng fusion hats... honestly para sakin mas nagustuhan ko ang fusion hats... kaya sa lahat ng nag bet sa stage hats.. senxa na fusion ang napili ko.

nakabili na ko. 7.5k kay JF(dictatone)

post ko pics bukas..

thanks sa mga nag post dito!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jun_BALARAW on October 17, 2006, 09:58:46 AM: here's the pic...

(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l43/jun_BALARAW/100_3812.jpg)
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: Gep on October 17, 2006, 01:47:41 PM: Wawawee!! Parang ganyan ang nabili ko kay Kurt dati hehehe.
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: bangbus on October 17, 2006, 02:30:30 PM: Quote from: bangbus
13" AAX Fusion hats no question about it. my very first high-end cymbal. i miss it so much. i was choosing between stage and fusion too before, i chose the latter. you have to hear them upfront so you'll know what works best for you.

Listen/watch Incubus' Jose Pasillas. :D

see, i told you! you have to hear it to appreciate it. congrats! fusion rules!Ü

:D
Title: Help! fusion hats or stage hats???
Post by: jpmb on October 18, 2006, 02:50:16 PM: hey jun, congrats on your fusion hats..enjoy that man :D
Title: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: marko21 on October 23, 2006, 01:31:46 PM: Ok ba `tong cymbals na to? Mas mura kasi siya e kumpara sa B8. Pwede na ba `to para sa beginner na tulad ko? :-D
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on October 23, 2006, 02:04:58 PM: marko i think na brass din itong solar ng sabian, comparable cguro sa planet Z ng zildjian at yung meinl fx brass... di ko pa nattry to bro pero suggest malamang ng madami d2 is to save up and get bronze cymbals... pero kung trip mo brass pili ka nlng solar, planet Z, or meinl FX... ok ata yung FX eh as far as brass' go... dunno :-D
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: marko21 on October 23, 2006, 02:35:27 PM: B8 ay bronze cymbals diba?
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on October 23, 2006, 03:26:58 PM: yup bronze ang b8... remember ang cymbals ay may 2 klase, sheet at cast. mas magaganda (at mas mahal) ang mga cast cymbals... ang mga sheet bronze cymbals (zbt, zxt, zht, b8, b8 pro) ay ok na din depende pa din sa taste mo, pero kadalasan pinipili talga ang mga cast bronze cymbals, eto ang mga xs20 pataas, As, Ks, Zs, at kung ano ano pa... go bronze
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: jun_BALARAW on October 23, 2006, 03:39:39 PM: Sheet Bronze
Alloy: Copper 92%, Tin 8%
ex: ZBT, ZXT, ZHT

Cast Bronze
Copper 80%, Tin 20%, Traces of Silver
ex. Kcustom, K, Acustom, Avedis, Zcustom, FX
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: Bammbamm on October 23, 2006, 05:07:30 PM: Wag na yan ang skorin mo, bro! Ipon ka nlang ng pang-dagdag at B8 ang bilhin mo! Halos wala namang tunog yan e.Mapupunit lang yan dahil sa kapapalo mo ng malakas kasi nga halos hindi cymbal ang tunog nyan...ang alam ko freebies lang yan pag bumili ka ng drumset e.Yung crash ride na Solar,siguro pwede pa....pero mag B8 ka na lang,para siguradong ok pang beginner!
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: marko21 on October 23, 2006, 07:25:23 PM: sige sige. thanks sa info. :-D
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: Markujo on October 23, 2006, 09:18:35 PM: recently i bought a sabian pro sonic over a xs20. tama ba pinili ko? :?
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: jun_BALARAW on October 23, 2006, 10:27:29 PM: Quote from: Markujo on October 23, 2006, 09:18:35 PM
recently i bought a sabian pro sonic over a xs20. tama ba pinili ko? :?
bro oks din ang pro sonix.. yan ang unang cymbal set ko. then nag upgrade ako... ok din naman ang xs20. kaso kung yun ang bibilhin mo edi mag Sabian AA ka na lang.. konti lang naman dadagdag mo eh..
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: Markujo on October 23, 2006, 10:37:40 PM: wew thot i was gonna regret it..heheh ty paps :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: intake on October 24, 2006, 11:41:27 AM: yung ZHT 88% copper 12% tin
parang cast na rin hehe ;D
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: jpmb on October 24, 2006, 06:20:11 PM: Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on October 23, 2006, 03:26:58 PM
yup bronze ang b8... remember ang cymbals ay may 2 klase, sheet at cast. mas magaganda (at mas mahal) ang mga cast cymbals... ang mga sheet bronze cymbals (zbt, zxt, zht, b8, b8 pro) ay ok na din depende pa din sa taste mo, pero kadalasan pinipili talga ang mga cast bronze cymbals, eto ang mga xs20 pataas, As, Ks, Zs, at kung ano ano pa... go bronze

hi marko21, jp here from the sabian dept., yes man the b8's are bronze sheet, and this has been sabian's strong point when it comes to our entry level category, ..bro god's gift thanks for answering, just came from a killer worksked..bro bambam has a point marko, if you can work on your budget naman then go for the b8 na lang..honestly the solar models are intended for the student lines or yun mga talagang nagsisimula pa lang..mas mura ito dahil mga brass cymbals ito, the truth is kaya tayo nagpasok nito para may option mga clients natin pagdating sa budget cymbals, i mean not all can afford the b8's, so i need to have another model that i can offer..well enough said for that bro marko..the sabian dept. is open mon-sat and you are very welcome to visit our showroom and we are very much willing to help you..our direct line is 899-9804, look for me or my assistant bea lao..bea's killer smile will help you choose the cymbals that you want..hehe..cheers to that bro.. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: marko21 on October 24, 2006, 06:28:06 PM: thank you ulit... :-D
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: jpmb on October 24, 2006, 06:31:38 PM: Quote from: marko21 on October 24, 2006, 06:28:06 PM
thank you ulit... :-D

no problem man..we're here to help..you're welcome bro :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: drummerboy827 on October 24, 2006, 06:40:02 PM: pangit to,may ganito sa skul namin
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: kibohead on October 24, 2006, 08:14:09 PM: patience...mahirap pero kung gagawin mo, malaki ang matitipid mo at di ka magsisisi. mahirap ma-kuntento sa cymbals...hehe kaya better to have a decent cymbal set or else lagi ka na naka-tambay sa classified ads tulad ko. :cry: hehe
godbless man!
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: jasperjugan on October 25, 2006, 09:49:03 AM: Quote from: kibohead on October 24, 2006, 08:14:09 PM
patience...mahirap pero kung gagawin mo, malaki ang matitipid mo at di ka magsisisi. mahirap ma-kuntento sa cymbals...hehe kaya better to have a decent cymbal set or else lagi ka na naka-tambay sa classified ads tulad ko. :cry: hehe
godbless man!
that's true dude. yung pagtitipid minsan napapamahal ka lalo if you crave for more :-P
Title: virgil donati's sig.saturation crash
Post by: jpmb on October 26, 2006, 08:54:32 AM: check out virgil donati's signature saturation crashes by sabian..this particular crash is available in sizes 16,17,18,19...virgil and the sabian vault team collaborated to create and design this very beautiful crash..for more info you can check the sabian website or feel free to visit us here in our sabian showroom..contact us at 899-9804..cheers
Title: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on November 02, 2006, 11:12:34 AM: please grab a copy of our sabian newsbeat magazine, you can get it from our sabian showroom here in G.A. Yupangco bdlg. and also in our perfect pitch and yamaha stores..

this issue of sabian newsbeat features 5 of the top drummers of diffrent genres..mike portnoy of dream theater, jojo mayer of nerve, tomas haake of meshuggah, daniel adair of nickelback, terreon guily of christian mcbride. this also features dave weckl's new signature cymbals called legacy..other features includes stories from sabian's cymbal makers called the "vault team" and cymbal set ups from drummers of diffrent genres..

enjoy....

JP
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: Agent_So on November 02, 2006, 11:26:19 AM: free ba sir?
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 02, 2006, 11:43:55 AM: Quote from: Agent_So on November 02, 2006, 11:26:19 AM
free ba sir?
oo pre sa pagkakaalam ko free yan.. kuha ako niyan pag naka daan ako perfect pitch.. collection ko yan eh..
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: Agent_So on November 02, 2006, 11:52:55 AM: dapat talaga free ito. hehe.. kasi dati ng subscribe ako sa sabian mismo.. and lagi nila ako pinapadalhan ng mags nila and stickers.. pero sabi nila later hindi na raw sila ngpapadala sa pinas.. kainis.. discrimination talaga! hehehe
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on November 02, 2006, 01:52:24 PM: heeya...sorry for the late reply..just finished my lunch break..yes man this are for free..visit us bros and i'll be very glad to give you a copy..cheers.. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 02, 2006, 02:22:11 PM: Quote from: jpmb on November 02, 2006, 01:52:24 PM
heeya...sorry for the late reply..just finished my lunch break..yes man this are for free..visit us bros and i'll be very glad to give you a copy..cheers.. :mrgreen:
JP kukuha ako sa sm north ah... baka mamaya hindi ibigay sakin ung magazine.. di ko pa naman kilala mga tao dun
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: Agent_So on November 02, 2006, 03:04:02 PM: sir, ako rin kuha sa moa or sm bacoor... thanks

o.t.

naku si hyper, a.k.a. windtunnel, luminamusic, chester asehan ay troll. hehehehe..
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: suspendead on November 02, 2006, 03:15:15 PM: JP tago ka naman ng isa, baka maubusan ako eh hehehe, Salamat... 17" Saturation *sigh* when kaya hehehe...

O.T.
Troll??? So meaning to say, nakatayo din hair nya hehehe... Kamukha kaya nya yung binibenta sa Gift Gate before hehehe, la lang.
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: bangbus on November 02, 2006, 04:35:14 PM: it comes with a Sabian 25 Years DVD, stickers, pins, and other catalogues di ba? yung akin meron. hihihi, generous dito.

Quote from: Agent_So on November 02, 2006, 03:04:02 PM
o.t.

naku si hyper, a.k.a. windtunnel, luminamusic, chester asehan ay troll. hehehehe..

OT: nako, akala ko ba you guys wont pansin each other na? away na naman kayo

:mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: drummer_boy17 on November 02, 2006, 06:30:12 PM: Quote from: jun_BALARAW on November 02, 2006, 11:43:55 AM
Quote from: Agent_So on November 02, 2006, 11:26:19 AM
free ba sir?
oo pre sa pagkakaalam ko free yan.. kuha ako niyan pag naka daan ako perfect pitch.. collection ko yan eh..

sir, kahit saang perfect pitch meron yan?..
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: kibohead on November 02, 2006, 06:47:36 PM: ako kuha rin sa sm fairview, sana meron pa :-D
last issue ko nito kay jose pasillas pa. :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: marko21 on November 02, 2006, 07:38:35 PM: meron ba nyan sa perfect pitch sa sm north?
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: pmack on November 02, 2006, 07:44:21 PM: kuha ako jp!
kaso baka sa sm north ako mapadaan. yun malapit sa amin eh.
cheers!
wag niyo na pansinin mga trolls...
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: intake on November 02, 2006, 08:34:32 PM: makakuha nga bukas :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: ayoice on November 02, 2006, 09:11:53 PM: JP!!! save me one PLEASE!!!!! puhleaze!!!!!!
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on November 03, 2006, 08:30:55 AM: heeeya..just finished my coffee and red bull..i just started our working day..yeah i've already allocated the magazines to our p.pitch branches yesterday..i'll just check ok kung dumating na sa kanila because per schedule ang delivery sa kanila..dont worry guys madami to oki.. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: luminamusic on November 03, 2006, 10:37:16 AM: Quote from: Agent_So on November 02, 2006, 03:04:02 PM
sir, ako rin kuha sa moa or sm bacoor... thanks

o.t.

naku si hyper, a.k.a. windtunnel, luminamusic, chester asehan ay troll. hehehehe..

wag mo kaming damay sa kalokohan mo ha, madami kang daldal palibasa wala ka naman talagang ibubuga, kaya ka natangal sa banda ang [grape] mo kasi pumalo, wala ka pa sa metro, wala kang tenga, [chewbacca] mo pa sumipra, wala akong pakilalam kung mawala ako dito no big deal to di mawawala ang talent ko dito, dahil alam kong alam mo yon, at alam din ng iba dito, kaya kung puwede tumigil ka ng kutong lupa ka! nanahimik banda namin pati pangalan ko dinadamay mo, pangalan pati ng banda namin, bakit kami pinagbibintangan mo lagi di na nga kami nangangailam, kaya ka iniiwan ng asawa mo, isip bata ka kasi.

sori guys kung OT ha..... alam ko mali to kaso abuso lang to, palagi na lang sinisisi pag napipintasan siya, sa totoo lang wala naman talagang alam yang tao na yan, kunwari lang yan, pero subukan mong pahawaking ng kahit anong instrumento, ayoko na lang magsalita.
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: ayoice on November 03, 2006, 10:57:20 AM: ^^^ man, i wonder what the hell is going on here... shet... calling mod drumster!!!
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: ayoice on November 03, 2006, 10:59:41 AM: and opinion ko lang ha, kahit cgro totoo yang sinasabi mo(which i doubt), does that give you the right to pick on someone like that? kahit gano pa ka-bano ang isang tao, bakit mo pipintasan? man i dunno... it just seems really wrong to say such things... hope this gets resolved dudes! philmusic should be our sanctuary!!!
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: suspendead on November 03, 2006, 11:07:53 AM: Tama ka dyan Ayoice, this is a sanctuary. Not to defend anybody but so what kung bano sya, san ka ba nagsimula... Lahat tayo nagstart sa pagka-"bano". Lastly, if you guys got issues, don't do it here. Fix it in another place and another time, not here not ever, Thanks...
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: drumfreak on November 03, 2006, 11:43:54 AM: parang splash ung crash nia.. ung first attack ko sa crash, sabi ko, "un na un?" bwiset.. long set pa naman.. ginamit ko na lang crash ung hihats, mas trashy pa ung tunog... t*****g yan.. pwede to plato pampakain sa aso.. hehe

*Post edited by Moderator.

Watch your language, my friend!
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: luminamusic on November 03, 2006, 12:14:02 PM: sori guys sa topic, di ko sana gusto to pero hindi kasi tama mag bintang na lang ng walang evidence, at mag bangit ng pangalan sa thread na to, lalo na kung nanahimik ka lang ayoko sana pumatol pero sobra lang talaga, and guys hindi ko natural yong ganito, masyado lang personal, kung makikita nyo lang yong ibang thread ko di ako nagsasalita ng ganito sa kapwa ko

my apology to all mods
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: drumster on November 03, 2006, 12:43:13 PM: Off-topic...

Apology accepted, luminamusic.

To those concerned... If you guys will keep on arguing and disturbing the peace here at the Pinoydrums Forum, I suggest that you guys go somewhere else to do your little fight, before the Admins and I do some drastic measures against you guys. This is Pinoydrums, a credible and respectable community of Pinoy drummers. This is not some cheap forum where low-life scums can bash each other. We're clear with that, aight?!

To bros ayoice and suspendead... Good posts! Yan ang mature and civilized. That's dignity.

Okay, move on...
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: luminamusic on November 03, 2006, 03:06:18 PM: thanks
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: kibohead on November 03, 2006, 05:28:40 PM: Sarado na pala ang SM perfect pitch sa Fairview!!! sayang i was planning to get a magazine pa naman kanina...nag 50% sale pa on all items! di ko nalaman yun ha!
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: pmack on November 03, 2006, 06:23:03 PM: 50% off!?!??
sayang naman!
...bakit kaya sila nagsara? di kaya nalugi yung branch na yun? mrami namang musikeros in and around the fairview area... sayang..
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: waybine on November 04, 2006, 02:30:52 AM: Quote from: drummerboy827 on October 24, 2006, 06:40:02 PM
pangit to,may ganito sa skul namin

:-D
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: autoexec on November 04, 2006, 01:41:16 AM: Ei sir JP kuha ako sa cubao alimall ah sana meron na sila. :-D

Basa ko nung una SABIAN NEWBEAT. (http://www.geocities.com/josephxv10/temp/rotfl.gif)
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: intake on November 04, 2006, 10:04:37 AM: tama na away...back to topic! :lol:

nakakuha nako nung mag...wala sa perfect pitch park square eh, pero sa yamaha meron :-)
pogi ni Jojo Mayer! :lol:
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: intake on November 04, 2006, 10:09:48 AM: Quote from: drumfreak on November 03, 2006, 11:43:54 AM
parang splash ung crash nia.. ung first attack ko sa crash, sabi ko, "un na un?" bwiset.. long set pa naman.. ginamit ko na lang crash ung hihats, mas trashy pa ung tunog... t****** yan.. pwede to plato pampakain sa aso.. hehe

:lol: :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on November 04, 2006, 10:10:56 AM: hey autoexec yes bro kindly ckeck na lang sa p.pitch alimall natin kung na deliver na sa knila, im expecting by this weekend kasi na nadeliver na sa mga p.pitch branches natin, btw bro im not handling p.pitch alimall anymore, temporary lang ako dun, my career with p.pitch is over already and im now happy handling pur pearl and sabian dept., of course there are times i miis my p.pitch days dahil dyan ako nagsimula sa company, intake enjoy reading that issue pare, im sure you'll get a lot of drumming ideas there, pmack and kibohead yes our pitch fairview is closed already but we will move that branch to sm mall of asia..cheers guys..enjoy ko muna weekend ko :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: Agent_So on November 04, 2006, 11:04:42 AM: Quote from: jpmb on November 04, 2006, 10:10:56 AM
yes our pitch fairview is closed already but we will move that branch to sm mall of asia..cheers guys..enjoy ko muna weekend ko :mrgreen:

ah.. bakit nga pala wala pa sa moa? and kelan magkakaroon?
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on November 04, 2006, 02:21:38 PM: hi agent so, well wala pa tayo exact date pare about the opening of p.pitch mall of asia, but we were able to get a space there already, dont worry guys update ko kayo..as of now get your sabian newsbeat muna here in our sabian showroom or in our perfect pitch branches..cheers
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: pmack on November 04, 2006, 02:59:41 PM: invite mo kami sa opening nung p.pitch sa moa ha...:D
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: intake on November 04, 2006, 03:22:26 PM: onga kuya jp :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on November 04, 2006, 03:30:26 PM: haha, oo ba..we are one drumming community here man..btw intake dont call me kuya..kasing age nyo lang ako..haha..you might find it funny pare if you'll see our dept. here because i'm the youngest product head dito, hehe, :mrgreen:, anyway o.t na to hehe, cheers guys.. :mrgreen:
Title: sabian
Post by: nongx on November 04, 2006, 07:01:55 PM: to all drumers, tanong ko lang po kung maganda ang sabian cymbals
at kung mag kano ang isang set nito.

thanks
nongx
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 04, 2006, 07:13:48 PM: Quote from: jpmb on November 04, 2006, 03:30:26 PM
haha, oo ba..we are one drumming community here man..btw intake dont call me kuya..kasing age nyo lang ako..haha..you might find it funny pare if you'll see our dept. here because i'm the youngest product head dito, hehe, :mrgreen:, anyway o.t na to hehe, cheers guys.. :mrgreen:
binobola ka lang ni JP.. wala na sa kalendaryo edad niyan... hahaha..

joke lang po manong JP.. hehehe
Title: Re: sabian
Post by: ayoice on November 04, 2006, 07:43:51 PM: thats like asking how much a car would cost... be more specific man :-D
Title: Re: sabian
Post by: drumster on November 04, 2006, 10:23:07 PM: Yeah... ayoice is right.

In general, Sabian is one of the best and one of the most recognized brand of cymbals in the world.

Discover Sabian cymbals through their website ---> http://www.sabian.com/ .

8-)
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: drumster on November 05, 2006, 02:08:45 AM: Quote from: drumfreak on November 03, 2006, 11:43:54 AM
parang splash ung crash nia.. ung first attack ko sa crash, sabi ko, "un na un?" bwiset.. long set pa naman.. ginamit ko na lang crash ung hihats, mas trashy pa ung tunog... t*****g yan.. pwede to plato pampakain sa aso.. hehe

If ever, that would be a very fancy dining dish for your dog hehehe...

Anyway, there's a reason why there are such cymbals like Solar. There are some drummers out there who are not that privileged. They could be newbie drummers who want to start out with drumming but can't really afford to buy better-model cymbals. Or maybe, there are owners of small rehearsal studio who can consider having these cymbals as their pang-harabas na setup.

There are certain people who might find these cymbals useful. Perhaps that's why JP and co. decided to ship in some of these. It gives consumers a few more choices. Read JP's post... Yun na mismo ang explanation. Just a thought...

8-)
Title: Re: sabian
Post by: kibohead on November 05, 2006, 09:55:40 AM: for more details try asking sir JP here at our forum. Yan ang Bossing ng Sabian and Pearl Dept. He knows everything from solar to vault models. :-)

godbless man.
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: drumfreak on November 06, 2006, 02:52:03 AM: sa bagay may point ka sir... :)

why not try looking for some used b8's? im sure meron jan. =)

hehe.. sorry na bleep pala ako d2.. d na mauulet. ehehe
Title: Re: Solar Cymbals by Sabian
Post by: Diadem on November 06, 2006, 03:07:11 AM: solar sucks... as in hated it.. moved on...

ZBT for live pag sa solar ka...
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: Kuldramer on November 06, 2006, 01:28:27 PM: sir sana mag open kayo ng perfect pitch dito sa SM PAMPANGA or SM CLARK kasi JB Music lang andito para naman mas maraming option dito mga musicians ng tiga Pampanga, Tarlac, Guagua, Bataan, Arayat at region 3 para di na malayo ang biyahe. Thanks sir
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jasperjugan on November 06, 2006, 03:29:50 PM: haha
Title: Re: sabian
Post by: jpmb on November 07, 2006, 03:16:18 PM: sabian cymbals showroom
339 gil puyat avenue buendia makati city
g.a. yupangco bldg.

direct line 899-9804, trunk line- 8999595 loc.316
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on November 09, 2006, 11:38:21 AM: Quote from: jun_BALARAW on November 04, 2006, 07:13:48 PM
Quote from: jpmb on November 04, 2006, 03:30:26 PM
haha, oo ba..we are one drumming community here man..btw intake dont call me kuya..kasing age nyo lang ako..haha..you might find it funny pare if you'll see our dept. here because i'm the youngest product head dito, hehe, :mrgreen:, anyway o.t na to hehe, cheers guys.. :mrgreen:
binobola ka lang ni JP.. wala na sa kalendaryo edad niyan... hahaha..

joke lang po manong JP.. hehehe

Haha, ngayon ko lang nakita eto ha..kasing edad ko lang ang sabian pareng jun..pareho kaming 1981 ipinanganak..hehe :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 09, 2006, 02:31:57 PM: Quote from: jpmb on November 09, 2006, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: jun_BALARAW on November 04, 2006, 07:13:48 PM
Quote from: jpmb on November 04, 2006, 03:30:26 PM
haha, oo ba..we are one drumming community here man..btw intake dont call me kuya..kasing age nyo lang ako..haha..you might find it funny pare if you'll see our dept. here because i'm the youngest product head dito, hehe, :mrgreen:, anyway o.t na to hehe, cheers guys.. :mrgreen:
binobola ka lang ni JP.. wala na sa kalendaryo edad niyan... hahaha..

joke lang po manong JP.. hehehe

Haha, ngayon ko lang nakita eto ha..kasing edad ko lang ang sabian pareng jun..pareho kaming 1981 ipinanganak..hehe :mrgreen:
1981 ka pala.. hilig sabihin tumatakbo ka na ako kapapanganak pa lang hehhe
Title: How much does new and used Sabian Hand Hammerred Cymbals cost?
Post by: jeva on November 30, 2006, 08:24:22 AM: Help naman po. Binibentahan ako ng sabian handhammered cymbals, very slightly used, parang bago.kaya di ko alam magkanao ba ung bago ng cymbals n same specs? e ung gamit n, magkano?

All Hand Hammered:
14" Hihat
16" Medium Thin Crash
18" China
20" Medium Ride

Ang offer sa akin:
14" Hihat = 10500
16" Medium Thin Crash = 8500
18" China = 10000
20" Medium Ride = 10000

Paki advise lang po. condition nyan is almost new, para makapagdecide ako kung kukunin ko o hindi. Salamat.
Title: Re: How much does new and used Sabian Hand Hammerred Cymbals cost?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 30, 2006, 08:25:54 AM: si JP ang makakasagot niyan
Title: Re: How much does new and used Sabian Hand Hammerred Cymbals cost?
Post by: jpmb on November 30, 2006, 08:57:49 AM: specify what models of hh has been offered to you bro
Title: Re: How much does new and used Sabian Hand Hammerred Cymbals cost?
Post by: killuaxp on November 30, 2006, 10:04:01 AM: kung mga 1k lang diff bili ka na lang ng brand new.
Title: Re: How much does new and used Sabian Hand Hammerred Cymbals cost?
Post by: jeva on November 30, 2006, 05:20:09 PM: Quote from: jpmb on November 30, 2006, 08:57:49 AM
specify what models of hh has been offered to you bro

Lahat nung size n namention ko sir, all are hand hammerred.... napansin ko kc nung nandyan ako, nag canvass ako, ung pagbinili ko ung used n, malaki difference compared sa tag price, di ko nga lang alam kung may discount pa tag price, pero ung minention ko na offer s akin, un n tlga un wl n discount
Title: Re: How much does new and used Sabian Hand Hammerred Cymbals cost?
Post by: jpmb on November 30, 2006, 05:48:45 PM: Quote from: jeva on November 30, 2006, 05:20:09 PM
Quote from: jpmb on November 30, 2006, 08:57:49 AM
specify what models of hh has been offered to you bro

Lahat nung size n namention ko sir, all are hand hammerred.... napansin ko kc nung nandyan ako, nag canvass ako, ung pagbinili ko ung used n, malaki difference compared sa tag price, di ko nga lang alam kung may discount pa tag price, pero ung minention ko na offer s akin, un n tlga un wl n discount

hey man, bro im sori but pls re type your post coz i couldnt understand it..im not askin about the size, im just asking plain and simple about what handhammered model it is, for example hh dark crash ba sya o hh medium crash..coz marami models ang hand hammered ng sabian, and are you referering to our sabian showroom? coz i dont put tag price on our cymbals except on our handog anniversary sale and summers sale, or if you want ganito pare para mas madali..my office direct line is 899-9804, you can call me directly here regarding your inquiry..ok bro :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on December 15, 2006, 11:37:57 AM: copies of this is still available...grab a copy of this...available in our perfect pitch stores and here in our main showroom..this issue features jojo mayer(nerve) mike portnoy(dream theater), tomas haake(messhugah)...cheers
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jun_BALARAW on December 15, 2006, 11:48:21 AM: Quote from: jpmb on December 15, 2006, 11:37:57 AM
copies of this is still available...grab a copy of this...available in our perfect pitch stores and here in our main showroom..this issue features jojo mayer(nerve) mike portnoy(dream theater), tomas haake(messhugah)...cheers
kuha na kayo... maganda promise... nakakuha ako sa p.pitch mega mall...
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jpmb on December 15, 2006, 11:52:13 AM: thanks for supporting sabian jun..cheers :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN NEWSBEAT MAGAZINE
Post by: jun_BALARAW on December 15, 2006, 11:54:06 AM: Quote from: jpmb on December 15, 2006, 11:52:13 AM
thanks for supporting sabian jun..cheers :mrgreen:
syempre man.... sabian lover ini
Title: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: pmack on December 18, 2006, 08:24:10 AM: John Bermuda Schwartz from Weird Al Yankovic's band.
30" Sabian AA Ride.

(http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151332&stc=1)
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: inigo on December 18, 2006, 10:35:22 AM: Parang nalula ako ng onti a...

I heard Paiste made up to 40 inches in the 70s. Hi hat ata yun (hahahahahaha)
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: Gep on December 18, 2006, 10:38:42 AM: Custom order mga yan.

Pwede ka magpaorder ng Saluda cymbals (especially Chinas) na hanggang 30+" ang size.
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: Agent_So on December 18, 2006, 10:51:25 AM: ang tindi! parang gong na siya yung malalaki ng mga chinese... heheheh.. anu kaya tunog nyan....
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: Gep on December 18, 2006, 10:57:13 AM: Quote from: Agent_So on December 18, 2006, 10:51:25 AM
ang tindi! parang gong na siya yung malalaki ng mga chinese... heheheh.. anu kaya tunog nyan....

Luluhod at yuyuko lahat ng mga nanonood, sabay halik sa lupa.
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: xalanx on December 18, 2006, 11:00:35 AM: whoa!...I wonder kung ano tunog nya? :-D
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: legnacilyz on December 18, 2006, 11:14:44 AM: Super Ping and super sustain.. i guess?? ehehe. ang laki ng diametro! siguro pag knrash mo yan, nkaka four bars or more ka na, hindi parin tapos yung sustain niyan.. hmmm.. im interested hearing the sound of that!

cheers!!!
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: pmack on December 18, 2006, 11:26:04 AM: search natn sa youtube kung merong live performance si weird al yankovic na gamit yan ng drummer niya..
hehehe...
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: jun_BALARAW on December 18, 2006, 01:23:22 PM: Quote from: pmack on December 18, 2006, 08:24:10 AM
John Bermuda Schwartz from Weird Al Yankovic's band.
30" Sabian AA Ride.

(http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151332&stc=1)
oorder ako neto kay JP
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: pmack on December 18, 2006, 02:20:59 PM: ^^^^^^^
papalo pagkakuha mo bro!
hehehe
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: rasta_gopz on December 18, 2006, 05:15:18 PM: wow ang laki nyan ah kailangan ata dalawang tau ang mag mount sa stand and bigat nito hehehe :-D
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: drumster on December 18, 2006, 05:27:50 PM: And you're going to need a huge cymbal bag/case and an extra-strong cymbal stand for that monster. :-D
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: jun_BALARAW on December 18, 2006, 06:08:43 PM: Quote from: drumster on December 18, 2006, 05:27:50 PM
And you're going to need a huge cymbal bag/case and an extra-strong cymbal stand for that monster. :-D
+ napaka tibay na drum stick
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: Gep on December 18, 2006, 06:11:23 PM: Kabitan mo na ng gulong at makina, ride na talaga yan!
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: rasta_gopz on December 18, 2006, 06:12:30 PM: parang payong sa laki :-D
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: jun_BALARAW on December 18, 2006, 07:06:45 PM: pero hindi ko makita ang pic
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: pmack on December 18, 2006, 08:07:07 PM: anong pic?
yung pinost ko?
nanjan pa rin pareng jun..
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: intake on December 18, 2006, 08:35:17 PM: langya daig pa bl!ng bl!ng rims ng mga baller sa laki! :lol:
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: lil.drummerboy on December 19, 2006, 01:40:35 PM: cno d2 naka try na ng ganun ka laki? putol cguro stick mo dun pag pinalo ng malakas. hehe. ang bigat nun eh. and ang price nun magkano kaya? :? :lol:
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: drummer_boy17 on December 19, 2006, 02:45:30 PM: Quote from: pmack on December 18, 2006, 08:24:10 AM
John Bermuda Schwartz from Weird Al Yankovic's band.
30" Sabian AA Ride.

(http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=151332&stc=1)

wow ang laki nman nian.. ano kya kung ganyan kalaki?
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: drummer_boy17 on December 19, 2006, 02:48:34 PM: bakit hindi ko makita yun pic?
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: amber_rsm on December 19, 2006, 03:54:45 PM: wow sarap dalin nyan kapag may gig tapos lagare ka pa sa ibang bar.. kailang mo ng dalawang PA..
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: jasperjugan on December 19, 2006, 04:07:44 PM: Quote from: inigo on December 18, 2006, 10:35:22 AM
Parang nalula ako ng onti a...

I heard Paiste made up to 40 inches in the 70s. Hi hat ata yun (hahahahahaha)
ang bigat non haha
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: eisenworx on December 20, 2006, 04:22:34 AM: kailangan dyan crane o kya scafolding n ang cymbal stand mo..
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: nerol1i4a on December 20, 2006, 06:29:42 AM: parang nalula din ako ng onting onti..
haha..
nkakatawa pagsa 2g2gan may dala ka nyan noh? tpos wala pang bag!
wahahaha...
lahat cguro titingin sau! ewan ko nalang.. :roll:
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: waybine on December 20, 2006, 07:06:32 AM: humongous! :-D meron na ba dito nyan sir JP? :?
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: pmack on December 20, 2006, 07:34:24 AM: oo nakakatawa nga hehe....
i think bagay sa tugtugan or better yet sa type ng tugtugan ni weird al yankovic yan. comedy kasi ang dating. exaggerated ang itsura, hehehe...
parang caricature.
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: waybine on December 20, 2006, 08:15:25 AM: bagay sakin yang ride na yan ..... hahahaha.
magmumukhang 22 ride lang yan sakin. :lol:
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: pmack on December 20, 2006, 08:37:26 AM: Quote from: waybine on December 20, 2006, 08:15:25 AM
bagay sakin yang ride na yan ..... hahahaha.
magmumukhang 22 ride lang yan sakin. :lol:

sa ating dalawa bro!
sama na natin si bam!
heheheh..
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: jpmb on December 20, 2006, 09:01:04 AM: Quote from: waybine on December 20, 2006, 07:06:32 AM
humongous! :-D meron na ba dito nyan sir JP? :?

heeeya.bro sorry wala tayo nyan..i think those are the custom made cymbals by sabian...thru special order lang pag ganyan configuration...hehehe.. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: the biggest SABIAN ride ever...
Post by: drummerboy827 on December 20, 2006, 01:38:17 PM: holy crap!!!
Hanggang anong size ba pedeng gawin?
Title: Sabian AAX Cymbal Set
Post by: jods on December 23, 2006, 01:25:53 PM: Hi pinoydrummers!
Question lang. Im looking for a cymbal set and my cousin told me oks na daw to (hes gonna get it sa States). Sabian 25005XC AAX Stage Performance Cymbal Pack.

Lumalabas mga P35,000.

Mura na ba to? Thanks!
Title: Re: Sabian AAX Cymbal Set
Post by: intake on December 23, 2006, 03:20:00 PM: for 35,000 pesos...maganda na yan ah :-)

alam ko yan yung may 14" stage hats, 16" stage crash at 20" stage ride

may libre pang cymbal bag :-D sulit!
Title: Re: Sabian AAX Cymbal Set
Post by: jods on December 23, 2006, 06:24:45 PM: yay! im gonna get it! thanks!!!
Title: Re: Sabian AAX Cymbal Set
Post by: rasta_gopz on December 24, 2006, 12:55:52 AM: oks na yan bro!!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Sabian AAX Cymbal Set
Post by: drumachine on December 24, 2006, 09:13:05 AM: si sir jp lang katapat nian!!! go go go!!!
Title: Re: Sabian AAX Cymbal Set
Post by: drummer_boy17 on December 24, 2006, 10:08:36 AM: ok na yan... sulit ka naman eh
Title: Re: Sabian AAX Cymbal Set
Post by: jpmb on December 28, 2006, 08:36:06 AM: Quote from: jods on December 23, 2006, 01:25:53 PM
Hi pinoydrummers!
Question lang. Im looking for a cymbal set and my cousin told me oks na daw to (hes gonna get it sa States). Sabian 25005XC AAX Stage Performance Cymbal Pack.

Lumalabas mga P35,000.

Mura na ba to? Thanks!

hi jods..the aax set is onsale for 33,200...so better get it here na lang hehehe.at least it wont be hassle for your cousin to bring or ship it here....cheers
Title: san makakabili ng b8 or solar na hindi per set
Post by: nerol1i4a on January 11, 2007, 12:07:38 PM: sir tanong ko lang, kc nakakita lang ako ng b8 at solar na per set eh.
san po kaya merong tingi nito. salamat. :-)

note: trinay ko na pm si sir jp, kaya lng sabi puno ang inbox nya. :-D
Title: Re: san makakabili ng b8 or solar na hindi per set
Post by: arvie on January 11, 2007, 01:36:41 PM: Sa yupangco makati or sa perfect pitch meron.... here's the site = http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?sid=3bc2ceacbe45dd27bcb46db5c6c1bed5&mod=catalog&op=prodlist&cid=27&bid= (http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?sid=3bc2ceacbe45dd27bcb46db5c6c1bed5&mod=catalog&op=prodlist&cid=27&bid=)
Title: Re: san makakabili ng b8 or solar na hindi per set
Post by: jpmb on January 11, 2007, 02:46:26 PM: sabian showroom is ,located here at 339 gil puyat avenue buendia makati city g.a. yupangco bldg...you can look for me or my assistant bea lao..cheers :|
Title: Re: san makakabili ng b8 or solar na hindi per set
Post by: nerol1i4a on January 12, 2007, 11:13:15 PM: sir tanong ko kung dun sa showroom ay may tingi na solar?
magkano po?
14" solar na hats?
14" b8 hats?
Title: Re: san makakabili ng b8 or solar na hindi per set
Post by: jpmb on January 15, 2007, 10:03:16 AM: yes we do have those models, i'll pm you the price :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on February 24, 2007, 09:32:24 AM: hey guys..just an update...

our 1st shipment of Sabian Cymbals for the year 2007 landed already yesterday on our warehouse...the stocks will be delivered in our showroom next week..

this shipment includes the mike portnoy signature splashes and virgil donati crashes, hhx o-zone crash..and some aaxtreme and aax chinese...and some xs20 and b8 individual models..

Sabian showroom is located at 339 gil puyat buendia makati city..g.a. yupangco bldg..

cheers
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: drummerboy827 on February 24, 2007, 02:07:25 PM: Holy Crap!! MP Max Stax!!!
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on February 26, 2007, 10:42:33 AM: small chinese cymbals anyone?...

the aax mini china size 14 is now available for on 5,995
and the b8 size 14 mini chinese is only 3,995...chek it out drumming bros... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: peeves24 on February 26, 2007, 10:44:46 AM: mamang dragon anong available na hihats?

dito na lang o kaya pm :-D ayoko dumaan dyan e hehehe
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on February 26, 2007, 10:46:42 AM: Quote from: peeves24 on February 26, 2007, 10:44:46 AM
mamang dragon anong available na hihats?

dito na lang o kaya pm :-D ayoko dumaan dyan e hehehe

haha..ok man i will pm you..haha..teka bat naman ayaw mo dumaan dito?di naman kita binubugahan ng apoy?hahaha :evil:
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: peeves24 on February 26, 2007, 10:54:24 AM: iwas temptation lang :-D

tempting yung aax mini-chinese
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on February 26, 2007, 11:36:00 AM: bite the temptation brother... :evil:..its worth it hahaha
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on February 27, 2007, 02:46:32 PM: aax 16 and 18 studio crash now on-stock :wink:....
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: peeves24 on February 27, 2007, 02:48:26 PM: pm me prices

isipin ko muna mabuti...mas kailangan ko kasi ng hats talaga
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: domldkim on February 27, 2007, 03:15:30 PM: mga sir. meron po bang xs20 ride? kung wala po, san ba makakakuha ng xs20 na ride? chaka sa tingin nyo po magkano mismo kapag yung ride lng yung binili ko? may nagoffer sakn ng xs20 na ride.. very good condition for 7k.. 3months pa lang sa kanya yung ride.. no dents, no keyholes.. tanong ko lang po kung ok na yung deal na yun?? hindi na po ba ako lugi dun? kasi hindi po ako makapagdecide eh.. wala po kasi akong idea about dun..

salamat po mga sir!!
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: peeves24 on February 27, 2007, 03:38:12 PM: baka naman kaya mo pang ma stretch yung budget mo ng 3k to 4k pa tapos go AAX na lang bro

konting hintay na lang din maganda na yung ride na mabibili mo
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on February 27, 2007, 03:51:00 PM: Quote from: domldkim on February 27, 2007, 03:15:30 PM
mga sir. meron po bang xs20 ride? kung wala po, san ba makakakuha ng xs20 na ride? chaka sa tingin nyo po magkano mismo kapag yung ride lng yung binili ko? may nagoffer sakn ng xs20 na ride.. very good condition for 7k.. 3months pa lang sa kanya yung ride.. no dents, no keyholes.. tanong ko lang po kung ok na yung deal na yun?? hindi na po ba ako lugi dun? kasi hindi po ako makapagdecide eh.. wala po kasi akong idea about dun..

salamat po mga sir!!

chek your pm bro..and yes peeves has a point..if thats is 7k try to stretch your funds...the aax stage ride is onsale for 9,890...well 3k difference for a brand new ride cymbal and a much higher model...hope that helps..cheers

JP
SABIAN DEPT.
899-9804
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on March 01, 2007, 08:59:10 AM: EO Marcos of the Band "Salamin" recently purchased his Sabian cymbals here in our showroom..he is now a proud owner of the following Sabian Cymbals

20" Vault Crash
18"Virgil Donati Saturation Crash
10"Neil Peart Paragon Splash
10" AA China Splash
16"HHX Ozone Crash
13" AAX Fusion Hats

Watch his band Salamin and Check out his pundiing on his newly aquired Sabian cymbals...cheers

JP
Sabian Depatment
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: Gep on March 01, 2007, 10:05:38 AM: Haha. Sabi ko na nga ba bibilhin niya yung O-zone e. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on March 01, 2007, 04:02:38 PM: haha..o-zone rules :evil:
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: Gep on March 01, 2007, 04:08:41 PM: Magpabili na lang kaya ako ng gamit through him kaya?!

Hehehe... Tapos lahat ng gitarista nila naka-Line 6 na. Variax bass pa. Hay.
The wonders money and fame can buy. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: domldkim on March 01, 2007, 09:05:40 PM: Quote from: peeves24 on February 27, 2007, 03:38:12 PM
baka naman kaya mo pang ma stretch yung budget mo ng 3k to 4k pa tapos go AAX na lang bro

konting hintay na lang din maganda na yung ride na mabibili mo

Quote from: jpmb on February 27, 2007, 03:51:00 PM
Quote from: domldkim on February 27, 2007, 03:15:30 PM
mga sir. meron po bang xs20 ride? kung wala po, san ba makakakuha ng xs20 na ride? chaka sa tingin nyo po magkano mismo kapag yung ride lng yung binili ko? may nagoffer sakn ng xs20 na ride.. very good condition for 7k.. 3months pa lang sa kanya yung ride.. no dents, no keyholes.. tanong ko lang po kung ok na yung deal na yun?? hindi na po ba ako lugi dun? kasi hindi po ako makapagdecide eh.. wala po kasi akong idea about dun..

salamat po mga sir!!

chek your pm bro..and yes peeves has a point..if thats is 7k try to stretch your funds...the aax stage ride is onsale for 9,890...well 3k difference for a brand new ride cymbal and a much higher model...hope that helps..cheers

JP
SABIAN DEPT.
899-9804

salamat mga sir!! naapreciate ko yung pagtulong.. salamat talaga! next time ulet..
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: domldkim on March 01, 2007, 10:21:47 PM: sir, may tanong po ako sa inyo. yung b8pro po namen na cymbals may parang stains. hindi po kasi namen alam kung anu yung dapat na bilhen na cymbal cleaner. may nakapagsabi po samen na pwedeng kahit anung klaseng cleaner. tapos nalaman po namen sa isang kakilala, parang nagiba yung kulay nung cymbal nya nung zildjian ung ginamit nya. dapat po kasi yung zildjian na panglinis yung bibilhen namen e. eh nalaman po nameng ganun kaya nagdalawang isip kame.kasi po medyo matagal na natago yung cymbal e. kelangan talga linisin. salamat po!mga sir, anu po ba dapat nameng bilhen na cymbal cleaner?? patulong naman po. salamat! chaka tanong rin po kung saan mkakakita ng mga ganung cleaner. chaka yung cheaper.. basta po yung best cleaner na..
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: domldkim on March 05, 2007, 03:01:46 PM: sir..
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: domldkim on March 08, 2007, 03:37:18 PM: sir. tulong. salamat! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on March 08, 2007, 03:58:57 PM: 845 for the sabian cleaner..try mo muna yun oki...you are free also to bring your cymbals also to our showroom so we can check it out..thanks for supporting sabian products. :wink:
Title: Re: FERNANDO drumset for sale!!!
Post by: jum on March 08, 2007, 04:21:20 PM: ei, everyone... i'm selling my drumkit (fernando) for only P12,000... in good condition. slightly used.

please do contact me if you're interested or you know someone who's interested. thanks!

09277232189
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: pmack on March 08, 2007, 06:20:38 PM: Quote from: jum on March 08, 2007, 04:21:20 PM
ei, everyone... i'm selling my drumkit (fernando) for only P12,000... in good condition. slightly used.

please do contact me if you're interested or you know someone who's interested. thanks!

09277232189

wow! wrong thread jum!
this way please... http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/board,169.0.html
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: PALO on March 12, 2007, 12:26:13 PM: SIR JP

sir jp baka pede mgrequest prices for b8 pr0 and aax models (hi-hat,crash ride,china) im planning to buy this month.. salamat!!
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: domldkim on March 14, 2007, 09:26:27 AM: Quote from: jpmb on March 08, 2007, 03:58:57 PM
845 for the sabian cleaner..try mo muna yun oki...you are free also to bring your cymbals also to our showroom so we can check it out..thanks for supporting sabian products. :wink:

wow! :-o thanx sir jp! siguro po dalhin na lang namin jan yung ride one of these days. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on March 23, 2007, 05:18:48 PM: this is what has been a long overdue....

migthy mike portnoy's max splashes is now available in our sabian showroom...available in sizes 7 and 9....

now im thinkin of selling some of my drumstuffs just to get this splashes...owaaaaaaaaaahhhh gas..... :wink:

Sabian Cymbals Department- 8999804
Title: B8 price query
Post by: jay_burn on March 24, 2007, 12:33:04 PM: hello.. tanong ko lang.. magkano kaya ang b8 14" hihat at 18" crash ride ngayon? :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: markdelacruz on March 26, 2007, 12:15:29 AM: Hey JP. I'd like to ask if ever you guys sell 21" HHX Groove Rides, 18" and 20" HHX Chinese cymbals, 18" and 20" HH cymbals and Reference Snare drums. :)
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on March 26, 2007, 11:04:07 AM: mark and jay thanks for your inquiry..check your pm guys... :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: PALO on March 30, 2007, 01:32:13 AM: ngaun pa lang ako mgpurchase ng sabian cymbal pano ko malaman kung tama un model n binili ko kung burado na un logo and model ng cymbal??... meron ba nkengrave sa cymbal ng size tska kung anong model niya??
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on March 30, 2007, 09:53:37 AM: Quote from: PALO on March 30, 2007, 01:32:13 AM
ngaun pa lang ako mgpurchase ng sabian cymbal pano ko malaman kung tama un model n binili ko kung burado na un logo and model ng cymbal??... meron ba nkengrave sa cymbal ng size tska kung anong model niya??

ey man, jp here, whoaaaw..thats a hard question to answer in words..hahaha..it would be better if we can see the cymbal itself..but let me help you with that..bro every cymbal by sabian has its own characteristic..for example..aa models has a different lathing than aax..hh models has smaller hammering than hhx models..b8's has a different finish than the b8 pros..its easy to distiguish naman..is someone selling you ba na burado yun logo kaya you are asking?...well if you have time bro you are free to visit me here in our sabian office so i can help you check it out.. :wink:..cheers and thanks for your interest on sabian products..

btw there is a plastic stamp in every sabian cymbal.nasa ilalim yun ng bell..likod na part..(well not unless tinanggal nun may ari o nagbebenta syempre yun stamp..)this might help kasi nandun yun cymbal code nya..oki..

if it starts with

0= solar
1= hh or hhx
2= aa or aax
3= b8pro
4=b8
xs=xs20
if its signature series naman it starts with the initail of the artist..gets pare :wink:

update us :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: PALO on March 30, 2007, 10:39:38 PM: tnx sir jp,, pm sent
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: jpmb on April 04, 2007, 09:45:29 AM: damn..looks like im goin to be the one to gas up right now..the portnoy max splash really rocks....now im thinkin how am i goin to have money for this splashes haha :evil:
Title: ano mas mahal?
Post by: iandomld on May 01, 2007, 11:37:06 PM: ano mas mahal... sabian aa or sabian pro sonix? :?
Title: Re: ano mas mahal?
Post by: amber_rsm on May 01, 2007, 11:44:19 PM: if im not mistaken mas mahal ang sabian aa.. :|
Title: Re: ano mas mahal?
Post by: iandomld on May 01, 2007, 11:50:30 PM: ano mas maganda tunog? :?
Title: Re: ano mas mahal?
Post by: jeva on May 02, 2007, 12:08:26 AM: I think depende sa pandining mo. but generally, I guess, most of the forummers hear will choose the AA. But then again, depende yan sa application at gusto mong sound.
Title: Re: ano mas mahal?
Post by: jpmb on May 02, 2007, 09:23:41 AM: Quote from: amber_rsm on May 01, 2007, 11:44:19 PM
if im not mistaken mas mahal ang sabian aa.. :|

yes bro you are right...aa models are much higher end than pro sonix..and pro sonix is a discotinued model already...
Quote from: iandomld on May 01, 2007, 11:50:30 PM
ano mas maganda tunog? :?

well it will depend on your hearing man...it will depend on your choice.. :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: iandomld on May 02, 2007, 09:27:03 PM: thanks guys!:) ehehe..apir! :-D
Title: Sabian's New Paragon Diamondback Chinese for Neil Peart
Post by: cymor on July 18, 2007, 07:46:05 AM: (http://www.sabian.com/sabiantalk/forum/post07_07/Paragon_Diamondback.jpg)

(http://www.sabian.com/sabiantalk/forum/post07_07/pict3018.jpg)

SABIAN master product specialist Mark Love and his team in the Vault worked really hard to get the right pitch (low) Neil was looking for as well as finding the exact spot where the jingles would vibrate most without choking the sustain of the cymbal. Stankee continues, "After they released the album it came time to replicate the Diamondback prototype that Neil used on the album. He didn't want to give it up as it was the only one. (Laughs) You've got to hand it to Mark for being able to take a description of sound over the phone, a couple of grainy photographs and his recollection of the original and turn it into a cymbal. That's patience AND talent!"

You'll be able to find the new Paragon Diamondback Chinese in stores later this summer.

>>>and cute ng cymbs...anu kaia tunog nyan...??
Title: Re: Sabian's New Paragon Diamondback Chinese for Neil Peart
Post by: jpmb on July 18, 2007, 09:39:55 AM: kudos to mark love and the innovation of sabian..man it was mr.mark love whom i undergo training during my sabian days..he's really passionate about cymbal making :wink:i would love to be his assistant hahaha
Title: Re: Sabian's New Paragon Diamondback Chinese for Neil Peart
Post by: sonnaqs on July 18, 2007, 09:47:59 AM: huwaw!!
another pogi cymbal..
i bet it really sounds different and brilliant.
cant wait to see and hear it.. \m/
Title: Re: Sabian's New Paragon Diamondback Chinese for Neil Peart
Post by: drumster on July 18, 2007, 02:22:59 PM: Neil Peart used the prototype China cymbal on Rush's new album "Snakes And Arrows". You can check out that recording for this cymbal's sound. He used this on a bunch of songs. Neil also briefly talked about this prototype cymbal on his August 2007 Modern Drummer article, regarding his thoughts and experiences with their new album.
Title: Re: Sabian's New Paragon Diamondback Chinese for Neil Peart
Post by: cymor on July 20, 2007, 06:58:41 PM: Everytime na nakatitig ako sa cymbal na toh...parang iba ung dating nya...wah. :-D
Title: Re: Sabian's New Paragon Diamondback Chinese for Neil Peart
Post by: drumster on August 02, 2007, 01:26:19 AM: Quote from: cymor on July 20, 2007, 06:58:41 PM
Everytime na nakatitig ako sa cymbal na toh...parang iba ung dating nya...wah. :-D

Iba nga ang dating nyan. Listen to the intro of Rush's "Armor And Sword", from the new album. Malakas talaga yung dating!
Title: Re: Sabian's New Paragon Diamondback Chinese for Neil Peart
Post by: cymor on August 04, 2007, 09:04:46 AM: Quote from: drumster on August 02, 2007, 01:26:19 AM
Quote from: cymor on July 20, 2007, 06:58:41 PM
Everytime na nakatitig ako sa cymbal na toh...parang iba ung dating nya...wah. :-D

Iba nga ang dating nyan. Listen to the intro of Rush's "Armor And Sword", from the new album. Malakas talaga yung dating!

Thx sa info sir! :-D napakinggan ko na po...yun na po ba ung tunog diamondback chinese dun po sa intro ng kanta? thx po
Title: Re: Sabian's New Paragon Diamondback Chinese for Neil Peart
Post by: drumster on August 05, 2007, 02:55:42 AM: ^ Yup that's it bro.
Title: Sabian Solar cymbals review
Post by: secondmind on August 06, 2007, 01:03:42 PM: mga bro's! need a review regarding this Sabian's Solar Set

*Topic title edited. Please read the Pinoydrums Forum Guidelines. Thank you.

- Pinoydrums Moderator
Title: Re: cymbals review
Post by: franco on August 06, 2007, 03:22:03 PM: Quote from: secondmind on August 06, 2007, 01:03:42 PM
mga bro's! need a review regarding this Sabian's Solar Set

honestly, pangit yan. tipid na tipid ang sustain, olats talaga. i've tried the set of 16" crash, 20" ride and 14" hi-hats sa bubble gang toppings bar in katipunan, ang tabang ng tunog! buti na lang may dala akong crash nun. sorry sa mga gumagamit ng solar dito pero opinyon ko lamang ito
Title: Re: Sabian Solar cymbals review
Post by: autoexec on August 07, 2007, 12:36:56 AM: Yes pangit din ito para sakin... Mas bitin pa ata ito sa planet-z.. Opinion ko lang din..
Title: Re: Sabian Solar cymbals review
Post by: drumster on August 07, 2007, 02:27:49 PM: It's the lowest of all entry-level/budget Sabian lines. It's so low-end, it's not even featured on their website hehe! Or perhaps Sabian has discontinued manufacturing these cymbals. I'm not sure...

Here's a discussion about Sabian Solar cymbals, at Sabian's "The Zone" Forum --- http://www.sabian.com/sabiantalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=15&threadid=3110&enterthread=y .
Title: Re: Sabian Solar cymbals review
Post by: Bammbamm on August 07, 2007, 05:14:01 PM: They're made of brass, not bronze, and dont sound like 'real' cymbals.

Don't buy them, or you'll be sorry...well, just my opinion... :-)

PEACE! 8-)
Title: Re: Sabian Solar cymbals review
Post by: revelaxionz09 on August 07, 2007, 09:12:00 PM: bro ipon ka na lang... tiis lang hehe.. i suggest if you are a little bit short try the sabian b8s set.. they are much more good sounding than the solar sets. ayoko din talaga tunog ng solar eh prang bitin sa sustain.. kase sa studio na pinagprapraktisan ko solar yung gamit nila nabibitin ako sa tunog.. just my opinion lng po.. :lol:
Title: Re: Sabian Solar cymbals review
Post by: harugrugrug on August 08, 2007, 02:52:35 AM: yup.. i agree... planet z e mas ok kesa dyan.. ung crash nila e di mo maintindihan... parang muffled na crash.. ride nila e mejo ok pero
di pa din e.. hehe.. ang hats e weird talaga.. hay...
peace din!
Title: Re: Sabian Solar cymbals review
Post by: jpmb on August 08, 2007, 02:25:15 PM: Quote from: secondmind on August 06, 2007, 01:03:42 PM
mga bro's! need a review regarding this Sabian's Solar Set

*Topic title edited. Please read the Pinoydrums Forum Guidelines. Thank you.

- Pinoydrums Moderator

is it because of budget constraints thats why you are asking for review on solars?...man if you will settle for planet z or solar i suggest you might consider those stagg cymbals..i think that will fit your budget :wink: or better yet save up ang invest on higher models..cymbals are investments bro :wink:
Title: Re: Sabian Solar cymbals review
Post by: harugrugrug on August 09, 2007, 02:37:32 AM: yup.. stagg cymbals... okie yun.. :-D
Title: Sabians Inquiry
Post by: cfbackbone™ on September 04, 2007, 10:10:37 AM: mga sir! balak ko kasi bumili ng set of sabians... b8 or b8 pro ang trip ko kasi na-try ko gumamit and satisfied ako sa tunog nya. ask ko lang kung matibay ang sabians. gaano sya katagal naglalast? nakakalungkot kasi pag nasira sya agad e halos di nako kumakain mabili lang yun. tnx sa mga magrereply and any suggestions kung meron kayong mas prefer na set kaysa sa sabians. tnx po! :-)
Title: Re: Sabians Inquiry
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 04, 2007, 10:38:20 AM: read through: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,52394.0.html :lol:
Title: Re: Sabians Inquiry
Post by: cfbackbone™ on September 04, 2007, 02:10:06 PM: tnx sa link sir! much appreciated! :-D
Title: Re: Sabians Inquiry
Post by: toybitz on September 06, 2007, 04:36:28 AM: alagaan mo lang mabuti kapatid.

tamang technique din sa pagpalo...

kun metal tugtugan...hindi magtatagal..so na sa tugtugan din. kun mas hatawan, mas makapal ang piliin. lahat ng gamit kapag ginagamit may buhay.
Title: Sabian XS20?
Post by: bulog on September 07, 2007, 01:05:24 PM: Ask ko lang po kung ano mas maganda sa dalawa.

Me nagbebenta po kasi sakin ng Sabian XS20 14" hats for 4 thou. All logos intact and very gud condition.

Ang gamit ko pong hi-hat sa church namin is a Zildjian New Beat 14" hats.

Medyo malapit po ba tunog ng Sabian XS sa New Beat?

Thanks po. Bka kasi bilhin ko sa 15th e.

Eto po pala actual pic nya

(http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/09062007026.jpg)
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: inigo on September 07, 2007, 01:44:05 PM: Mas highly-regarded ang New Beat. All around na maganda ang tunog. Ang XS20 ay basic B20 bronze cymbal ng Sabian (B20 bronze din ang New Beat). Meaning, meron siyang basic B20 characteristics (projection, warmth, sound character) pero hindi siya tailored to be something. Ang New Beat, made to be loud yet warm. Ang XS20, hindi nagpoproject that much. New Beats also sound bigger despite being the same size. Which sound you like more is up to you.

Durability, pareho lang yan.

Para sa akin, mas trip ko tunog ng New Beat. Pero pag budget ang pag-uusapan, mas gusto ng pitaka ko ang XS20. :)
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: bulog on September 07, 2007, 01:47:49 PM: Thanks Sir Inigo.

Siguro maganda kung ma test ko muna itong XS20 para ma-compare ko yun projection ng tunog nya.

Salamat Sir.

MEdyo tempting kasi yung price e.
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: cradleofklien on September 07, 2007, 03:15:24 PM: para sakin NEW BEAT!!:D...tapos shempre benta mo nalang ung xs20...sure buyer ako bro.hehehe.joke lang..piis! :roll:
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 07, 2007, 03:21:55 PM: I would stick with the New Beat :lol:
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: fredzs on September 07, 2007, 07:23:03 PM: New Beats dude... I own one, and even though my pair is REALLY old and dirty, I will never part ways with this baby.. I love her. :lol:

Why do you intend to buy the XS20 anyway?? Papalit mo ba sa New Beats ? Or do you need to buy hi-hats and just wondering if the XS20 sounds anywhere close to the New Beats ?
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: vdonati_fan on September 07, 2007, 07:34:38 PM: new beats, no doubt...

sheet cymbals po ang xs20's, as as i know..but new beats already casted, right..

with regard to sound...panalo talaga ang new beat...

stay with your new beat bro...follow what they say...

HTH...
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: bulog on September 07, 2007, 08:11:38 PM: Yung New Beat hats kasi, owned na by the church. Eto yung kasama sa Fernando set ko na nabenta noon for 15k lng with 22 in K Jazz ride and 2 schimitar crashes (16 & 18 in).

So definitely, pag may gigs sa labas, di ko ito madadala, I want to own kasi my own hats e.

Thanks
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: revelaxionz09 on September 07, 2007, 08:30:07 PM: bro, para sa akin new beats.. panalo talaga sa pandinig... xs20 ayos rin naman b20 na rin siya. pero i'll go talaga sa new beats ng zildjian... :lol:
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 07, 2007, 08:31:46 PM: If that's the case I would suggest you try out the xs20 and see how you like the sound. As we always say you and only you can tell if you like it or not but rest assured you are getting yourself into a good pair of hats. (at a decent price too! :lol:)
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: vdonati_fan on September 07, 2007, 08:46:24 PM: Quote from: bulog on September 07, 2007, 08:11:38 PM
Yung New Beat hats kasi, owned na by the church. Eto yung kasama sa Fernando set ko na nabenta noon for 15k lng with 22 in K Jazz ride and 2 schimitar crashes (16 & 18 in).

So definitely, pag may gigs sa labas, di ko ito madadala, I want to own kasi my own hats e.

Thanks

tama si mod Akira, ok ang x20 kasi mura na din sya...considering na b20 alloy na ang xs20...maganda pang investment yan para sa skill mo, to have your own instrument...

HTH
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: bulog on September 07, 2007, 08:50:07 PM: Thanks sa advice mga Sirs.

I'll update you all soon kung nakuha ko ito.

God Bless to All!!!
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: inigo on September 08, 2007, 12:56:29 PM: Quote from: vdonati_fan on September 07, 2007, 07:34:38 PM
sheet cymbals po ang xs20's, as as i know..but new beats already casted, right..

XS20s are cast B20 bronze
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: Miggleness on September 08, 2007, 08:33:46 PM: for live settings, masmalaaks nga yung new beats sa xs20. Resell value din masmataas ang new beats. Yun din ang boto ko.
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 08, 2007, 08:55:45 PM: I think the question now is not what is better between the said cymbals but rather is the XS20 a good cymbal to get; since Bulog is not choosing between the two instead He is considering of purchasing His own set of hi-hats :wink:
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: vdonati_fan on September 09, 2007, 10:18:36 PM: Quote from: inigo on September 08, 2007, 12:56:29 PM
XS20s are cast B20 bronze

i tried reading from the sabian website if the xs20 is already a casted or a sheeted cymbals but there's no clear answer...it just says there ..."XS20 is all about value. With these bright sounding cymbals it is now possible to access the great durability and performance quality of B20 ‘cast’ bronze at unbelievably low ‘sheet’ bronze prices."

and that is continued by..."Using innovative hi-tech manufacturing methods we’ve advanced cymbal making by cutting the cost of creating this B20 bronze series without sacrificing the quality. XS20 delivers great sound, high quality and low prices for a cymbal - and a value - that simply can’t be beat."

well bulog, i suggest that you get that pair or refer it to royaltones since he's looking for xs20s. i sold my 18" xs20 crash to him recently.

i'm sure you'll enjoy the xs20 hats...
Title: b8
Post by: grendil8 on September 10, 2007, 01:05:04 AM: ayos lang ba B8 sabian para sa hardcore-metal na tugtugan?
ano pa po ba mga pdeng cymbals na pde sa ganyang genre..

ung mga tipong kaya ng bulsa lalo pa at istudyante pa lang ako

help me out this..
salamat !!!
Title: b8
Post by: vdonati_fan on September 10, 2007, 01:31:50 AM: pre, musta?

about your inquiry kung pwede na ang Sabian B8 cymbals sa hardcore-metal na tugtugan...for me, it may not. sa hardcore-metal dapat loud and agressive ang cymbals, like Z customs of Zildjian. don't get me wrong, i love the B8s and B8 is i think is the best entry-level cymbal right now but in terms of your music, it may not be able to handle your demands...

sayang, pwede na sana yung ZXT Titanium ko sa type ng music nyo, kaso nabenta ko na...hehe

sige pre, enjoy my double peds ha...

take care and God Bless!
Title: b8
Post by: stiknstone on September 10, 2007, 01:35:00 AM: OK yan sir..for beginners and students..for practicing also..and if ur good enough tsaka ka na lng magswitch sa mga higher end cymbals..peace out!
Title: b8
Post by: grendil8 on September 10, 2007, 01:50:00 AM: si vdonati (d ko na maalala name mo)

kano kaya aabutin ng Z custom?
ang kaya ko lang B8 eh.. ehehe..

nga pla oks na oks ung dpeds mo.. receive mo txt ko nung nag gig kami.. ty sa dpeds
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: domldkim on September 10, 2007, 06:18:53 PM: Quote from: vdonati_fan on September 10, 2007, 01:31:50 AM
pre, musta?

about your inquiry kung pwede na ang Sabian B8 cymbals sa hardcore-metal na tugtugan...for me, it may not. sa hardcore-metal dapat loud and agressive ang cymbals, like Z customs of Zildjian. don't get me wrong, i love the B8s and B8 is i think is the best entry-level cymbal right now but in terms of your music, it may not be able to handle your demands...

sayang, pwede na sana yung ZXT Titanium ko sa type ng music nyo, kaso nabenta ko na...hehe

sige pre, enjoy my double peds ha...

take care and God Bless!

tama po yung sinabi mo sir vdonati_fan. dapat nga loud and agressive yung cymbals na gagamitin mo sa mga ganung genre. pero sir donati, kapag po sabian yung bibilihin mo(kasi po you mentioned Z custom e. hihih.), anu po ba yung cymbals na nagffit sa characterstics na loud and agressive??
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: bulog on September 13, 2007, 03:35:42 PM: Update

I got the XS20, bagong bago pa, perfect condition...parang di ginamit.

Got it for 4k lang.

Di ko pa nate-test, d2 pa ako sa opis hehe, kakakuha ko lang.

Thanks to all your advice.
Title: Re: Sabian XS20 vs ZILDJIAN New Beat Hihat
Post by: sjon014 on September 13, 2007, 08:55:14 PM: Quote from: vdonati_fan on September 09, 2007, 10:18:36 PM
i tried reading from the sabian website if the xs20 is already a casted or a sheeted cymbals but there's no clear answer...it just says there ..."XS20 is all about value. With these bright sounding cymbals it is now possible to access the great durability and performance quality of B20 ‘cast’ bronze at unbelievably low ‘sheet’ bronze prices."

and that is continued by..."Using innovative hi-tech manufacturing methods we’ve advanced cymbal making by cutting the cost of creating this B20 bronze series without sacrificing the quality. XS20 delivers great sound, high quality and low prices for a cymbal - and a value - that simply can’t be beat."

I always thought XS20's were B20 Bronze metals manufactured using sheet technique.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: 9_spiral on September 29, 2007, 10:19:53 PM: i prefer AA and AAX for metal music kasi bright and explosive ung tunog nya. May kamahalan nga lng pero super panalo talaga.

gamit ko ngaun b8 pro na china...it's bright and loud naman, i like it's trashy sound...kasi nga yun ung gusto kong quality ng sound. i play metal din kasi.

sa website ng sabian, may soundcheck naman...so minsan nakakarefer din ako dun ung mga differences ng bawal tunog ng bawat series,..cinocompare ko dun..ung Load A and Load B...ayun nakakatulong sa kin para makapagdecide kung ano talagang sound ung hinahanap ko hehe..
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: plep on September 30, 2007, 11:54:58 AM: Quote from: domldkim on September 10, 2007, 06:18:53 PM
tama po yung sinabi mo sir vdonati_fan. dapat nga loud and agressive yung cymbals na gagamitin mo sa mga ganung genre. pero sir donati, kapag po sabian yung bibilihin mo(kasi po you mentioned Z custom e. hihih.), anu po ba yung cymbals na nagffit sa characterstics na loud and agressive??

Kung cast na crash ang habol mo sir, yung best bet mo ay either AA Metal-X o kaya AAX Metal. Kaso hindi limitado dun ang choices mo. Pwede rin ang:
AA Med Thin / Medium / Rock
AA Crash Ride
AAX Stage
AAXplosion
Neil Peart Signature Paragon
Virgil Donati Signature Saturation
Chad Smith Signature Explosion

At kung gusto mo loud and aggresive pa rin kaso darker ang tunog (at mas aggressive din sa wallet hehe):
Hand Hammered Medium / Rock
Hand Hammered Crash Ride
HHX Stage
HHX Power
HHXplosion

Sa Hats tsaka Ride, yung equivalent models na lang ng mga yan: AA Metal-X Hats/Ride, AA Rock Hats/Ride, AAX Metal Hats/Ride, AAX Stage Hats/Ride, Paragon Hats/Ride, HH Rock Hats/Ride, HHX Power Hats/Ride, etc.

Mas madali ata makahanap dito sa Pilipinas nung mga nasa unang list (yung mga AA, AAX, tsaka Signature). Basta magsimula ka sa AA Metal-X tsaka sa AAX Metal, tas galing dun ka na lang magsimula maghanap.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: longfellow16 on September 30, 2007, 07:12:12 PM: hello...just wanna know what is the difference between b8 to b8pro series... :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: plep on September 30, 2007, 10:46:26 PM: Natural finish ang B8, brilliant finish ang B8 Pro. Sigurado ako dun.

Isa pang posibleng pagkaiba ay malapad yung grooves ng B8 (parang sa AA/HH), at sa mga pics na nakita ko parang manipis yung sa B8 Pro (parang sa AAX/HHX). Di ako sigurado dito kasi ang tagal ko nang di nakakita ng B8 Pro sa personal e.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: kibohead on October 01, 2007, 03:45:53 PM: consistent and ok ang clarity ng AAX khit mahina or malakas ang palo mo, ang AA naman may certain range lang talaga siya. yun ang difference ng 2. kaya kung AA ang plano mo kunin, buy the appropriate model for your genre para ayos na ayos. hehehe HH naman has this unique "dark floating sound", i try not to polish my HH/HHX kasi they sound even better when dirty(point of view ko), ang difference ng HH sa HHX, ung HHX cuts more than HH which blends more in the music.

AA-traditional bright
AAx-modern bright
HH-traditional dark
HHx-modern dark
Sonix-hats at crash lang nasubukan ko... very high sounding crash(penetrating tlga)
Xs20-swak sa budget...maganda yung mga rock models nila...yung ride, na medium, tagal ng decay...kakainis. hehehe
B8pro- ok at matibay, mas responsive siya sa stick than the B8's...for me its better than any entry level cymbal.
Pro-wala ako nakita ganito satin
Signature-saturation crash ang nasubukan ko...very big sounding crash lalo na yung 19"!
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: royalletones on October 01, 2007, 07:42:51 PM: Quote from: kibohead on October 01, 2007, 03:45:53 PM
consistent and ok ang clarity ng AAX khit mahina or malakas ang palo mo, ang AA naman may certain range lang talaga siya. yun ang difference ng 2. kaya kung AA ang plano mo kunin, buy the appropriate model for your genre para ayos na ayos. hehehe HH naman has this unique "dark floating sound", i try not to polish my HH/HHX kasi they sound even better when dirty(point of view ko), ang difference ng HH sa HHX, ung HHX cuts more than HH which blends more in the music.

AA-traditional bright
AAx-modern bright
HH-traditional dark
HHx-modern dark
Sonix-hats at crash lang nasubukan ko... very high sounding crash(penetrating tlga)
Xs20-swak sa budget...maganda yung mga rock models nila...yung ride, na medium, tagal ng decay...kakainis. hehehe
B8pro- ok at matibay, mas responsive siya sa stick than the B8's...for me its better than any entry level cymbal.
Pro-wala ako nakita ganito satin
Signature-saturation crash ang nasubukan ko...very big sounding crash lalo na yung 19"!

i could say that you are experienced sabian user long ago. imagine from entry-level to high end na compare mo. sana ma try ko rin lahat. di ko tuloy ma compare and di ko pa alam kung what line of sabian cymbal will fit to my genre.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: kibohead on October 02, 2007, 09:58:34 PM: usually mediums are most versatile... it now depends what model you plan to get. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: Tryq on October 02, 2007, 11:43:06 PM: guys meron ba kaung pricelist ng sabian splashes.. thx! :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: plep on October 03, 2007, 08:54:51 PM: Quote from: royalletones on October 01, 2007, 07:42:51 PM
i could say that you are experienced sabian user long ago. imagine from entry-level to high end na compare mo. sana ma try ko rin lahat. di ko tuloy ma compare and di ko pa alam kung what line of sabian cymbal will fit to my genre.

sa sabian kasi, hindi nakukulong sa isang genre yung bawat line e... lahat ng line may maibabagay sa kahit anong sitwasyon. may hand hammered na pang metal (power bell ride, rock crash, etc), may aa na pang jazz (raw ride) tsaka latin (el sabor), etc etc.

so mas importanteng tanong eh kung ano ba gustong tunog mo galing sa cymbals mo? isa isahin mo... ano gusto mong tunog ng hats? ng crash? ng ride? ng effects? tapos doon mo piliin, huwag by line lang.
Title: sabian xs or sabian B8 pro?
Post by: mic2 on October 06, 2007, 11:09:51 AM: mga sir ano may ok d2 sa dalawa?
sabian xs or sabian B8 pro
tnx
Title: Re: sabian xs or sabian B8 pro?
Post by: adler on October 06, 2007, 01:48:35 PM: kahit alin jan,, depende naman kung ano gusto mo lumabas na tunog,, pro kung sa quality panalo ka na jan,
Title: Re: sabian xs or sabian B8 pro?
Post by: mic2 on October 06, 2007, 03:15:54 PM: medyo may pag ka pop kasi tunog namin. pero syempre budget ang prob. kaya hirap pumili.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: plep on October 06, 2007, 10:37:25 PM: mic2:
okay naman pareho yang dalawang line na yan, lalo na kung on a budget ka talaga. kaso ano ba gusto mong tunog galing sa cymbals mo?

mas bright at mas may cut kasi ang b8 pro kesa sa xs20. kumbaga, nangingibabaw talaga ang b8 pro sa tugtugan, habang ang xs20 eh mas magbeblend in. so kung gusto mo ng medyo matinis kaso rinig na rinig, b8 pro na yan. kung gusto mo ng pampakapal at pampataba sa tunog nung banda mo, yung xs20 kunin mo.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: 9_spiral on October 06, 2007, 11:22:03 PM: Quote from: plep on October 06, 2007, 10:37:25 PM
mic2:
okay naman pareho yang dalawang line na yan, lalo na kung on a budget ka talaga. kaso ano ba gusto mong tunog galing sa cymbals mo?

mas bright at mas may cut kasi ang b8 pro kesa sa xs20. kumbaga, nangingibabaw talaga ang b8 pro sa tugtugan, habang ang xs20 eh mas magbeblend in. so kung gusto mo ng medyo matinis kaso rinig na rinig, b8 pro na yan. kung gusto mo ng pampakapal at pampataba sa tunog nung banda mo, yung xs20 kunin mo.

grabe nga magcut ang b8pro.. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: mic2 on October 07, 2007, 10:23:57 AM: Quote from: plep on October 06, 2007, 10:37:25 PM
mic2:
okay naman pareho yang dalawang line na yan, lalo na kung on a budget ka talaga. kaso ano ba gusto mong tunog galing sa cymbals mo?

mas bright at mas may cut kasi ang b8 pro kesa sa xs20. kumbaga, nangingibabaw talaga ang b8 pro sa tugtugan, habang ang xs20 eh mas magbeblend in. so kung gusto mo ng medyo matinis kaso rinig na rinig, b8 pro na yan. kung gusto mo ng pampakapal at pampataba sa tunog nung banda mo, yung xs20 kunin mo.

salamat sa tip sir...
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: plep on October 07, 2007, 08:34:34 PM: walang anuman. balitaan mo na lang kami kung ano kinuha mo at kung okay ba sa tugtugan niyo.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: mic2 on October 08, 2007, 09:44:48 AM: cge sir balitaan ko po kayo...

isa pang question sir what do you mean na maganda mag cut ang cymbals medyo di kasi ko familiar sa mga terms eh...
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: kibohead on October 08, 2007, 02:35:08 PM: penetrating sound, mas sharp ang tunog nito, i think xs20's are more focused rather than cutting po like your b8 pros. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: 9_spiral on October 08, 2007, 11:10:41 PM: meron kayang Sabian Vault dito? or OT lang, may katunog ba ang Vault sa ibang brands ng cymbals?
Title: AAX-celerator?
Post by: jacobus on November 01, 2007, 05:06:06 PM: anyone know if AAX-celerators are good?? please advise hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: toymach2000 on November 19, 2007, 02:49:36 PM: Handog salr sa lahat ng PP at yupangco branch!! i think 10% off lng :-D!
Title: Re: AAX-celerator?
Post by: plep on November 19, 2007, 04:45:40 PM: Quote from: 9_spiral on October 08, 2007, 11:10:41 PM
meron kayang Sabian Vault dito? or OT lang, may katunog ba ang Vault sa ibang brands ng cymbals?

wala pa ako nakikitang vault sa mga perfect pitch... kaso supposedly ang pinaka-katunog niya eh ang mga ibang A Custom.

Quote from: jacobus on November 01, 2007, 05:06:06 PM
anyone know if AAX-celerators are good?? please advise hehe

wala pa ako nababasang bad review para sa kanila. pag waved bottom kasi, mas crisp ang chick, mas defined ang sticking pag closed, at mas washy pag open. kung yun habol mo, eh di go. kaso mas maganda pa ring subukan mo mismo.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: grendil8 on November 19, 2007, 07:34:26 PM: my B8 set ako at nagustuhan ko.. perfect set talaga para sakin.. balak ko pa bumili ng isang crash gusto ko sana hand hammered 16" narinig ko na to at ang lupit or 17" AA d ko pa naririnig my nag offer lang sakin (ano tunog nito) or isang xs20 16" or 17" man .. ehehehe
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: grendil8 on November 21, 2007, 06:21:01 PM: ala palang 17" xs20 crash my bad..

guys nga pala my nag offer sakin ng AA 17"medium crash 7k.. ask ko lang po kung good deal ba un? or should i go for the 18"xs20 crash? sa tingin niyo po?
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: plep on November 21, 2007, 08:28:33 PM: bright at malakas ang AA Medium Crash. okay yan pang rock. sa presyo naman, depende sa condition yan. if anything less than mint condition eh siguro i-bargain down mo to mga 6k. ang brand new na 18" na AA is around mga 10k lang e.

kung overall quality, mas maganda ang AA kesa sa xs20. kaso mas maganda pa rin na marinig mo... malay mo mas trip mo lang talaga yung xs20 di ba.
Title: Re: SABIAN cymbals and products thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on November 25, 2007, 08:08:26 PM: @gredil8

i own a SABIAN XS20 18" medium thin crash.

sounds really good. got it for 5k. bnew. but, if you say, available ung

7k na AA?? dun ka na sa AA dude. . . malaking diprensya nun. hihi. . .

:D
Title: The New Sabian APX (i think)
Post by: Paolo-I-b on December 29, 2007, 03:31:52 AM: waiting here...bla bidi bla bla bla
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd19/Paolo-I-b/apx-1.jpg)
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd19/Paolo-I-b/apx-2.jpg)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Dheniz on January 24, 2008, 04:06:28 AM: Video clip ng APX new line cymbals ng SABIAN

:evil:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: rhanen28 on January 24, 2008, 07:45:16 AM: dapat nagantay na lang ako!! :-(
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Dheniz on January 24, 2008, 05:17:53 PM: alam ko maganda ang apx
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 24, 2008, 06:59:01 PM: hmmm. . .

it seems that it is an entry level cymbal pero maganda yung quality. . .

b8 bronze pero AA type hammering. . .
(think paiste 2002)

hmm. . . pwede xa ah. . . :) hehe

NO TXT spelling please.
-Moderator
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on January 25, 2008, 08:46:03 PM: ayos tunog ng apx ah...naku magkano naman kaya presyo nito pag lumabas?
Title: HELP please! Sabian XS20 Cymbals
Post by: rubb3rduck on March 02, 2008, 11:30:51 AM: I've been doing a lot of research over the net and it seems to me these are what suits me (beginner: been playing for 3 months) and the best I can afford for the moment. The Sabian website says these are B20 cast cymbals for the price of sheet. I'll use these for home practice only as I don't have a band yet. I'm looking at buying the XS20 Performance Pack. Have you guys owned/used these before? Can you please give reviews/advice to help me decide? Thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kibohead on March 02, 2008, 04:17:28 PM: I used to have an Xs20 crash and ride. so far the rock models of Xs20 are better compared to the mediums.

The Rock Xs20 has a stronger & more defined Bell, since this model is built heavier, they produce more wash but it's release is shorter compared to the mediums. I'll definitely go for the rock models of Xs20. Buying the cymbal package comes a free 18" crash...i don't know if it's still available.

Xs20 cymbal model is more of a blending cymbal...it's not like the cutting cymbals you hear on casted models like (e.g. AA, AAx) and to those sheet cymbals (e.g. B8 and B8Pro).

The good side of Xs20 is their durability and affordability considering that this cymbal line is casted and made with B20 bronze(said to be the most or if not one of the most expensive alloys).

The Pack also comes with a cymbal bag and expanding on this model is easy. They have a splash and a china, both sound sound decently.

But if you have a a bigger budget, try considering AA models. Most Rock drummers and heavy hitters prefer this model because of it's cutting ,explosive power and durability.

Goodluck there bro. Hope this helps. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: rubb3rduck on March 04, 2008, 08:42:38 AM: Thanks for the help bro, well appreciated! :lol: I have some more questions though...
1.) Is the Rock Pack more versatile than the Performance Pack? Coz I was thinking the Rock Pack is for rock/heavy playing while the Performance Pack is suited best for versatile playing. I haven't heard these live in action so I could use some more info.
2.) Are Sabians exclusively distributed by Yupangco? Would you know where I could get the best deals?

P.S. Thanks to the Mods for moving my post to the appropriate thread. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kibohead on March 04, 2008, 10:38:30 PM: Hello again sir, I think buying a cymbal set(e.g. Xs20 pack) is much cheaper than to be bought seperately.

Typically, mediums are more versatile compared to any model. It's better to know on what genre you'll be using these cymbals. It's still your call sir, I think it would be wiser if you would visit any yupanggco branch for you to hear and judge what specific model you are looking for.

Based on my experience, these Xs20 mediums have a good action, decay, but seem to scatter on its release(yung buntot na tunog after ng decay), especially the Xs20 ride 20" which i put tapes just to lessen the overtones...hehehe, but that's just me sir.

Hope this helps you. Sabian is a good cymbal... it only depends on what model you'll be hitting which is based on the drummer's taste.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: rubb3rduck on March 05, 2008, 08:53:28 AM: Thanks for the help kibohead, sound practical advice for sure!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vnavpath on March 05, 2008, 11:33:48 AM: If you have a friend/relative sa US pwede a pabili ng XS Performance pack na mura. Plus may free additional cymbals pa yun depende sa promo (Guitarcenter/SAMASH) who knows maka libre ka pa ng either 10 IN Splash, 18 in crash, cymbal bag etc. good luck
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: lovecore on May 10, 2008, 05:00:06 AM: Balik loob ako sa drums ngayon mga bro and I'm hoping to get some advice sana...

I'm planning to add another crash to my arsenal. I don't plan to replace anything as of now but here's my current.

B8pro ride and hats
AAX splash, china, 16" bright crash

Ano bang ok na crash na idagdag? I was planning on an 18" ok ba yun na pang complement sa 16" ko? AA or AAX? I know this is a noob question and I might get the google it answers pero I'll take the risk hehe big fan of sabians kse. Ayoko lumipat hehehe

thanks!
Title: Are Sabian Metal-X cymbals durable enough for the hardest hitters?
Post by: skunkyfunk on May 14, 2008, 09:10:50 PM: Are Sabian Metal-X cymbals durable enough for the hardest hitters?

I just wonder, say I want to invest on cymbals for a rehearsal studio, can the Sabian Metal-X cymbals be tough enough, for the most awkward and aggressive drummers?

*Topic merged.

- Pinoydrums Moderator
Title: Re: Are Sabian Metal-X cymbals durable enough for the hardest hitters?
Post by: plep on May 14, 2008, 09:32:14 PM: yes, but for a studio they'd be too expensive. you're better off getting b8's or zb/x/ht's. or the rock cymbals from stagg, if you want something that would sound better than those budget models.
Title: Re: Are Sabian Metal-X cymbals durable enough for the hardest hitters?
Post by: drumnation on May 15, 2008, 04:50:24 PM: Quote from: plep on May 14, 2008, 09:32:14 PM
yes, but for a studio they'd be too expensive. you're better off getting b8's or zb/x/ht's. or the rock cymbals from stagg, if you want something that would sound better than those budget models.
+1
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on May 15, 2008, 11:34:40 PM: Quote from: lovecore on May 10, 2008, 05:00:06 AM
Balik loob ako sa drums ngayon mga bro and I'm hoping to get some advice sana...

I'm planning to add another crash to my arsenal. I don't plan to replace anything as of now but here's my current.

B8pro ride and hats
AAX splash, china, 16" bright crash

Ano bang ok na crash na idagdag? I was planning on an 18" ok ba yun na pang complement sa 16" ko? AA or AAX? I know this is a noob question and I might get the google it answers pero I'll take the risk hehe big fan of sabians kse. Ayoko lumipat hehehe

thanks!

as for the size, go for the 18" na..para maging dominant naman cya sa 16" mo...as for the series kung AA or AAX...depends sa ears mo pa rin eh...pero if I were to choose...I would go for AAX na...since AAX na rin ung isang crash mo and china..so para magmatch na cya na "modern bright" ang sound. Traditional bright kasi ung AA, pero yes maganda pa rin cya.

still, the final decision will be your preferences. you can hear the sound samples naman from the site, pero better hear them personally. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: alvin_11 on May 15, 2008, 11:39:44 PM: ever heard of sabian 19" tony verderosa sig. ride? reviews naman :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: drumnation on May 16, 2008, 12:57:04 AM: Quote from: lovecore on May 10, 2008, 05:00:06 AM
Balik loob ako sa drums ngayon mga bro and I'm hoping to get some advice sana...

I'm planning to add another crash to my arsenal. I don't plan to replace anything as of now but here's my current.

B8pro ride and hats
AAX splash, china, 16" bright crash

Ano bang ok na crash na idagdag? I was planning on an 18" ok ba yun na pang complement sa 16" ko? AA or AAX? I know this is a noob question and I might get the google it answers pero I'll take the risk hehe big fan of sabians kse. Ayoko lumipat hehehe

thanks!
try sabian's AA for brightness and body and HHX for dark sounding cymbals :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: lovecore on May 19, 2008, 01:53:35 AM: thanks for the replies guys! i'm leaning now on the studio or stage crash (forgot which one) na AAX or the Vault na Chad Smith but I like the AAx sound for now. still saving up anyway so it's still a long way. bago ko lang din kse nalaman may sound samples pala. at least I know how it sounds already and I'm able to try whatever cymbal online and have the freedom to order and feel safe that I chose the right cymbal
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Thechief on May 19, 2008, 02:33:49 PM: yung mga b8 pro ba ngayon kasing tibay parin nung dati?? nakabili ako sa classifieds dati mejo luma na pero yun ang tumagal na cymbal sa studio namin. hanggang ngayon ok pa.. balak ko bumili ng performance set eh..
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on June 07, 2008, 10:31:43 PM: mga sir, ask ko lang kung ano pong sabian hi-hat ito? wala na kasing logos eh...ung engraved na lang ung natira na magpapatunay na sabian cya hehe...pansinin nyo ung linings..

(http://photos-542.friendster.com/e1/photos/24/59/23039542/1_346807697l.jpg)
(http://photos-542.friendster.com/e1/photos/24/59/23039542/1_985391461l.jpg)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on June 07, 2008, 11:38:38 PM: 9 spiral:
mukha yang b8 dahil sa kulay at lathing
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on June 07, 2008, 11:43:58 PM: Quote from: plep on June 07, 2008, 11:38:38 PM
9 spiral:
mukha yang b8 dahil sa kulay at lathing

ah...ung kulay nya kasi dahil sa kalumaan...ano ba ang totoong finish nito? gusto ko sana bumalik kasi ung dating finish...anu po ba pwedeng gawin?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on June 08, 2008, 02:04:28 AM: ganyan nga kulay ng lumang b8. pag reddish kasi b8. pag yellowish, b20. tsaka alam nating b8 yan at hindi b8 pro dahil malaki agwat nung lathing. pino yung lathing ng b8pro e.

kung gusto mo ibalik ang dating itsura, ilinis mo na lang ng todo. paliguan mo, sabunin, banlawan, tapos banatan ng cymbal cleaner. kaso sa lagay na yan baka mahirapan ka lang para sa wala.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Darel on June 08, 2008, 09:41:51 PM: mga sir,para saang genre ba yung sabian El Sabor?sino na meron dito sa forum?

salamat po...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: drummerboy827 on June 08, 2008, 09:45:42 PM: Napansin ko sa mga shops like Yupango, perfect pitch, they dont advertise their products. Halos wala silang sale (ang pagkaalam ko). Kaya ako bihira bumili ng Sabian eh.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Darel on June 08, 2008, 10:02:36 PM: Quote from: drummerboy827 on June 08, 2008, 09:45:42 PM
Napansin ko sa mga shops like Yupango, perfect pitch, they dont advertise their products. Halos wala silang sale (ang pagkaalam ko). Kaya ako bihira bumili ng Sabian eh.

sir,may nakita na akong sabian brand sa isang perfect pitch store..nakalimutan ko lang kung saan...

mas sikat kasi talaga ang Zildjian kesa sa Sabian.

what do you think sir?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: black_panther on June 11, 2008, 09:19:48 AM: Quote from: Darel on June 08, 2008, 09:41:51 PM
mga sir,para saang genre ba yung sabian El Sabor?sino na meron dito sa forum?

salamat po...

el sabor is intended for the latin pop genre, but as i said before, cymbals are nice way to experiment sounds on our drumming, so try to use this for other genres also

Quote from: Darel on June 08, 2008, 10:02:36 PM
sir,may nakita na akong sabian brand sa isang perfect pitch store..nakalimutan ko lang kung saan...

mas sikat kasi talaga ang Zildjian kesa sa Sabian.

what do you think sir?

well i think zildjian and sabian are on the same place,.. :wink:, man i remember those times that im still handling sabian here and excites me whwnever they have a new model to offer and i always bring them in here in our country... :wink:, well those are the good old days, cheers
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on June 11, 2008, 09:47:13 AM: yes tama si sir jp...kahit ako i would love to use the AA el sabor hats for metal, like Tim Yeung does :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Darel on June 11, 2008, 01:07:20 PM: Quote from: black_panther on June 11, 2008, 09:19:48 AM
el sabor is intended for the latin pop genre, but as i said before, cymbals are nice way to experiment sounds on our drumming, so try to use this for other genres also

now i know na sir,.salamat po sa information...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kibohead on June 11, 2008, 01:37:27 PM: SABIAN RULES!!! :evil:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on June 12, 2008, 09:18:55 PM: kanina dumaan ako sa perfect pitch park square and i have heard the APX solid crash 18" and WOW it's really loud and cuts through. Kelangan talagang gumamit ng ear protection dito kasi sobrang nakakabingi talaga cya. The "solid crash" has a lower pitch than the "crash", mas trip ko ung solid. It has a cool finish also. However, babagay lang ata cya sa loud playing music like rock or metal.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vnavpath on June 12, 2008, 11:46:57 PM: Ok yung APX Mga sirs.. I got one (16in crash). btw, anyone interested sa B8 15 in thin crash? bnew pa. Im upgrading my cymbals. PM me nalang... ty
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Darel on June 17, 2008, 05:06:51 PM: Mga sir,may question lang po ako..bakit po yung AA Saibian brand (im referring to Ride) eh parang sabog yung tunog?

Sorry po mga sir tanong lang po...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plitipiw40315 on June 17, 2008, 09:17:00 PM: mga ser, magkano po ba ung mga B8 or B8 pro na set ngaun??
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on June 17, 2008, 10:07:21 PM: naglilihi ata ko

kailangan ko ng 18" AAXplosion Crash and 17" AAX Dark Crash

ala naman ung dark crash d2. . .
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: cradleofklien on June 17, 2008, 10:29:36 PM: sa mga nag pupunta ng perfect pitch usually magkano pumapatak ung AAXPLOSION nila na 16'' at AA na crashes? :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on June 17, 2008, 11:50:45 PM: Quote from: tranquildomain on June 17, 2008, 10:07:21 PM
naglilihi ata ko

kailangan ko ng 18" AAXplosion Crash and 17" AAX Dark Crash

ala naman ung dark crash d2. . .

isyu talaga ng perfect pitch recently ang panget na pagpili ng mga items na isastock nila. yung mga "unique" models tulad ng o-zone at chopper meron sila, kaso mga bestselling models wala... o kaya kung meron man, 16" (pag crash) at 20" (pag ride) lang ang size na meron.

sige, meron silang ilang 18" (HH Dark, AAX Stage, Sig Saturation)... kaso ang AAXplosion, HHXplosion, HHXtreme, AAX Dark, HHX Stage, Vault (puro bestseller, by the way), lahat walang 18" or wala AT ALL!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vnavpath on June 18, 2008, 01:21:19 AM: Mga sirs, kung gusto nyo magpabili ng good cymbals na wala dito sa manila hanapin nyo si captainsatch dito sa philmusic, sya ang bumili sa 18 AAXplosion ko sa USA mismo. byahe sya dun twice/thrice a month.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on June 18, 2008, 10:08:07 AM: Tama ka diyan plep!

welga welga! :x

kaya ndi nakikilala masiyado sabian eh, yung killer series ayaw ibenta

@ vnavpath

kano inabot AAXplosion mo ? :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vnavpath on June 18, 2008, 11:30:44 AM: AAX plosion 18 inch crash = P10500. thats $225 plus tax times P43(yung P43=$1 pa) =$245. plus binigyan ko pa tip si Javy(Captainsatch). Mura na to. considering against the high price perfect pitch. Procedure is to check guitarcenter.com for the item and the price. then ask captainsatch if he can get it for you. may konting dagdag lang sya for carrier's fee. pero sulit mura mura pa rin. Magpabili pa nga ako ulit ng AAX stage hihats and ozone crash sa kanya pa complete line nko for my studio.
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Post by: tranquildomain on June 21, 2008, 06:12:23 PM: pa lakad naman sir kay javy :lol:
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Post by: cradleofklien on June 21, 2008, 10:00:04 PM: sama din ako diyan sir vnavpath! :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: nickmar on June 22, 2008, 10:16:44 AM: Quote from: plep on June 17, 2008, 11:50:45 PM
isyu talaga ng perfect pitch recently ang panget na pagpili ng mga items na isastock nila. yung mga "unique" models tulad ng o-zone at chopper meron sila, kaso mga bestselling models wala... o kaya kung meron man, 16" (pag crash) at 20" (pag ride) lang ang size na meron.

sige, meron silang ilang 18" (HH Dark, AAX Stage, Sig Saturation)... kaso ang AAXplosion, HHXplosion, HHXtreme, AAX Dark, HHX Stage, Vault (puro bestseller, by the way), lahat walang 18" or wala AT ALL!
ang alam ko meron sila hhxplosion sa ppf las pinas around 16k
Title: Has anyone ever used the Mike Portnoy's Sig MAX STAX cymbals?
Post by: jcberedo on October 25, 2008, 01:45:35 AM: Hi guys! Has anyone ever used the Max Stax cymbals by Mike Portnoy? If yes available ba sya sa local market natin?

Saka has anyone of you improvised a set of 2 cymbals to mimic the Max Stax? Kasi I'm planning to buy those stax along with my new kit pag nagka-budget na ako.

If hindi sya available satin I'm planning to improvise a cymbal-sandwich to make a stax, any suggestions for cymbal combinations?

Thanks! :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: smutdrummer on October 25, 2008, 06:25:00 AM: may nakita ako sa cubao brach dati at moa inabot ng 13k yung isang set ng maxstaxx.

improvise na lang, same result din naman ata na parang choked...

yung akin eh 12in zildjian trash with 12inKsplash... works fine :) well for me.
also a 16in oriental with 10HHXsplash (pailalim lang yung splash para mas pabor yung china sound at hindi masyadong choked)
meron din yata akong nabasa dito na parang stagg SH china with Sh splash.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on October 25, 2008, 08:10:36 AM: Quote from: nickmar on June 22, 2008, 10:16:44 AM
ang alam ko meron sila hhxplosion sa ppf las pinas around 16k

17" tsaka 19" lang. tsaka never ako nakakita at pag tinatanong ko kung pwede ba ipatransfer sa store na malapit sa amin para subukan, lahat sila napapa-"ehh" na lang.

hhxtreme din daw, meron 18". same as above yung availability.

para sa stax, mas gusto ko tunog pag mas malaki yung china, mounted bell down, tapos yung mas maliit na splash bell down din sa loob ng flange (parang ganito (http://www.interstatemusic.com/wcsstore/InterstateMusic/ims/ipf/CYMDB05018.jpg)). 14" china + 8" splash ang okay na sizes.
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Post by: jcberedo on October 25, 2008, 08:17:32 AM: ok thanks guys for the info and suggestions. :lol:
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Post by: toybitz on October 26, 2008, 04:06:05 AM: Quote from: jcberedo on October 25, 2008, 08:17:32 AM
ok thanks guys for the info and suggestions. :lol:

ang mahirap lang sa "improvised"...you have to experiment which cymbal goes well with what cymbal and how different will it sound against another combo...

borrowing from fellow drummer friends will help with the matching before the buying to save money...

..or the easier way is too look for the stack. subok na. Sabian and Mike has done it for you, no more matching, unless you're after a different sound.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: drummer_boy17 on October 26, 2008, 03:46:57 PM: magkanu ba ngayon dito sa pinas yun 16" AA Medium Crash at 18" AA Chinise?... :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: toybitz on October 27, 2008, 03:17:00 AM: Quote from: drummer_boy17 on October 26, 2008, 03:46:57 PM
magkanu ba ngayon dito sa pinas yun 16" AA Medium Crash at 18" AA Chinise?... :)

wala atang AA Chinese bossing eh..

but you can visit www.yupangco.com to find out the price of the medium crash..pero alam ko hindi na updated yung site..so baka merong stock pero wala sa site. but its gonna be close to whatever price or the same for any 16" AA or AAX cymbal na makikita mo doon.
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Post by: trojanpeter on November 07, 2008, 01:09:37 PM: mga bro!!!

ask ko lang...

maganda ba ang Xs2o na ride sa Rock Music??

or what do u suggest na magandang ride sa Sabian??
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unknown user on November 13, 2008, 11:36:28 PM: Mga Sir... ask ko lang po...

Plano ko po kasi dagdagan yung cymbals ko. Ano po ba ang dapat bilhin?

This is my recent set-up:

AAX 14" Stage Hi-hat

AAX 16" Plosion Crash

AAX 20" Stage Ride

AAX 8" Splash

Naguguluhan ako kung ano ang mas dapat unahin idagdag. kung crash? china? or another splash?

Gusto ko sana crash. But hindi ko alam kung ano ang pinaka bagay sa set-up ko. Hindi ko alam kung anong sabian line ang dapat., Gusto ko sana AAX din. Pero ano kaya sa AAX line ang bagay? stage b o studio or other? and what size?

Tips naman po. Salamat. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on November 13, 2008, 11:54:32 PM: Quote from: unknown user on November 13, 2008, 11:36:28 PM
Mga Sir... ask ko lang po...

Plano ko po kasi dagdagan yung cymbals ko. Ano po ba ang dapat bilhin?

This is my recent set-up:

AAX 14" Stage Hi-hat

AAX 16" Plosion Crash

AAX 20" Stage Ride

AAX 8" Splash

Naguguluhan ako kung ano ang mas dapat unahin idagdag. kung crash? china? or another splash?

Gusto ko sana crash. But hindi ko alam kung ano ang pinaka bagay sa set-up ko. Hindi ko alam kung anong sabian line ang dapat., Gusto ko sana AAX din. Pero ano kaya sa AAX line ang bagay? stage b o studio or other? and what size?

Tips naman po. Salamat. :-D

dagdag ka 18" stage crash ayos un, o kaya AAX 18" china panalo rin..
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: black_panther on November 14, 2008, 10:23:52 AM: maybe an 18 aax stage crash or a 10 aax spalsh :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unknown user on November 14, 2008, 11:24:09 AM: Quote from: 9_spiral on November 13, 2008, 11:54:32 PM
dagdag ka 18" stage crash ayos un, o kaya AAX 18" china panalo rin..
Quote from: 9_spiral on November 13, 2008, 11:54:32 PM
dagdag ka 18" stage crash ayos un, o kaya AAX 18" china panalo rin..

Quote from: black_panther on November 14, 2008, 10:23:52 AM
maybe an 18 aax stage crash or a 10 aax spalsh :wink:

yun... Salamat mga Sir... pero sana may available na 18" AAX Stage Crash... :-D Hirap po kasi humanap nun e. Madalas hindi available.

Aside from aax stage crash 18, 18 china, 10 splash, ano pa po kaya? Para atleast I have options incase wala stock by the time nabibili ako. :-)

Maraming Salamat
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on November 14, 2008, 12:06:09 PM: Quote from: unknown user on November 14, 2008, 11:24:09 AM
yun... Salamat mga Sir... pero sana may available na 18" AAX Stage Crash... :-D Hirap po kasi humanap nun e. Madalas hindi available.

Aside from aax stage crash 18, 18 china, 10 splash, ano pa po kaya? Para atleast I have options incase wala stock by the time nabibili ako. :-)

Maraming Salamat

an 18" crash of the AA or AAX line perhaps? pero why not go for "variety"?? try an HHX :) or HH. the AA-Metal X Works FOr me :)

18 AAX Chinese also is a good choice :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on November 15, 2008, 01:10:13 PM: Quote from: unknown user on November 14, 2008, 11:24:09 AM
yun... Salamat mga Sir... pero sana may available na 18" AAX Stage Crash... :-D Hirap po kasi humanap nun e. Madalas hindi available.

Aside from aax stage crash 18, 18 china, 10 splash, ano pa po kaya? Para atleast I have options incase wala stock by the time nabibili ako. :-)

Maraming Salamat

may nakita akong 18" aax stage crash sa perfect pitch park square branch. that was i think may-june 2008 hehe...ewan ko lang kung available pa ngaun..
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unknown user on November 16, 2008, 11:45:43 AM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on November 14, 2008, 12:06:09 PM
an 18" crash of the AA or AAX line perhaps? pero why not go for "variety"?? try an HHX :) or HH. the AA-Metal X Works FOr me :)

18 AAX Chinese also is a good choice :)

- Gusto ko rin po yung ibang lines ng Sabian like AA,HHX,Legacy pati signatures nila din sana... but wala ako idea kung ano tunog nila e. Hirap kasi dito sa atin sa Pilipinas isang store lang ang nagbebenta ng Sabian, hindi pa kumpleto. I mean ang hirap ng stocks. Minsan ready na yung cash mo, after 6 months pa dadating yung cymbals. Yung mga recent cymbals ko nga dito ko lang nabili sa philmusic e. According sa seller ng ride,hats,crash ko (except sa splash from Sir Alvin) lahat daw yun sa US niya pa nabili.

- And badtrip din kasi sa stores ng cymbals dito sa atin, minsan akala nila hindi ka bibili, kaya hindi ka papansinin... :-) Hindi mo pa ma-try yung mga cymbals. yes. Mapapalo mo ng stick. Mahahawakan mo. Pero pano mo mahahanap talaga yung sound at combination na gusto mo db? Sana pwde itry with drum kit. sana. :-D

- Siguro solution na lang... mag meet mga pinoy drummers na Sabian users. Para ma-try natin B8, B8pro, xs20, APX, AA, AAX, HH, HHX, Signatures, Legacy... lahat na... hehe :-D

Quote from: 9_spiral on November 15, 2008, 01:10:13 PM
may nakita akong 18" aax stage crash sa perfect pitch park square branch. that was i think may-june 2008 hehe...ewan ko lang kung available pa ngaun..

- Wow... sana nandun pa Sir. Hirap kasi pag na display dun minsan wala pa 1 month sold na. hehehe :-D

---- Salamat mga Sir ----- :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 16, 2008, 08:15:11 PM: nagtanong ako ng HHX sa perfect pitch.

sa high hats raw ay abot ng 16-18k :-o
hindi ko na pinagpatuloy yung pagtatanong. haha

ask ko lang po.

iba pa po ba ang HHX evo sa HHX lang?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: toybitz on November 22, 2008, 08:28:13 PM: magkaiba
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mr. trigger on November 23, 2008, 04:10:26 PM: :-D share ko lang nabasa ko sa MD magazine ang review ng sabian alu bells at choppers astig! alu bells are made of aluminum pala hehehe astig ah and choppers have 3 layers plate :-D hehehe ala lang
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/titigasin/d.jpg)
The Chopper

The Chopper is an innovative multi-application percussion effect that delivers quick, tightly focused white noise accents and rhythms. Comprised of three bronze discs—two of which are cut into propeller-like shapes—riveted loosely together, the Chopper is a totally new playing experience for drummers and percussionist. When played, the three discs agitate each other and produce the uniquely raw sound that proved so popular on recent Sabian Vault Tour dates, according to Wayne Blanchard, Sabian's senior marketing manager.

"The Chopper looks simple, but this is a very complex instrument designed to play accents and rhythms with equal effect," continued Blanchard. "It does this through a combination of etched surfaces and a special die-cut design that lets the three discs vibrate and agitate together; creating the short burst of white noise that makes the Chopper so special."

Already the choice of Mike Portnoy, Will Calhoun, and Rodney Howard, the Chopper fits comfortably on stands in any drum or percussion set-up. A Chopper can also add a distinctly different flavor when used in place of an X-hat, or laid on a snare drum to create a funky techno-type slap. The Chopper, available in 8-, 10- and 12-inch sizes, is quality protected by the One-Year Sabian Warranty.
(http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/titigasin/g.jpg)
Alu Bells

Available in 7- and 9-inch sizes, the 'Alu Bell' features a dome shape and narrow striking edge. According to Sabian cymbal specialist David Williams, not only does aluminum create a clear and musical bell-like response, it is very light in weight, which contributes to its ability to produce long, sustaining notes.

"'Alu Bells' were a consistent best seller on the Sabian Vault Tours," continued Williams. "When some of our major players heard them there was no stopping the concept. Everyone, whether playing latin, jazz, or hard rock, was quick to see the potential and the requests began to roll in. That demand prompted this introduction."
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on December 20, 2008, 11:37:09 PM: mga sir! tanung ko lang kung nasa progressive, rock ang tugtugan ko, anong hats kaya maganda dito? or the most versatile na hats so i could play different types of music.

at merong bang AAX stage hats 14" dito sa atin? san ko kaya to mahahanap?
...im eying on this one.

salamat! :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: TANTANTiNiNT on January 17, 2009, 11:35:55 PM: tanong lang po may serial number po ba ang sabian cymbals? kagaya ng zildjians
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Post by: wipeout on January 19, 2009, 09:30:32 PM: Walang serial numbers bro.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on January 29, 2009, 08:02:48 PM: mag iisang taon na akong namumulok at ayaw makinig ng pitch. . .

Order dpat ako sa kanila kaso ung staff sa SM Southmall pitch ay.. hay.. haha..

I need

22" AAX Metal Ride
14" Stage Hats..

Ingat sa stage hats sa perfect pitch, test them out muna may canadian made at american made..

big difference in sound!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on January 29, 2009, 10:11:07 PM: Quote from: tranquildomain on January 29, 2009, 08:02:48 PM
mag iisang taon na akong namumulok at ayaw makinig ng pitch. . .

Order dpat ako sa kanila kaso ung staff sa SM Southmall pitch ay.. hay.. haha..

I need

22" AAX Metal Ride
14" Stage Hats..

Ingat sa stage hats sa perfect pitch, test them out muna may canadian made at american made..

big difference in sound!

sir pareho tayo ng hinahanap na hats, AAX 14" stage hats...hirap din ako maghanap.... ano pong difference ng canadian at american? and ano po mas maganda sakanila? maraming salamat!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on January 30, 2009, 09:13:53 AM: Quote from: tranquildomain on January 29, 2009, 08:02:48 PM
Ingat sa stage hats sa perfect pitch, test them out muna may canadian made at american made..

big difference in sound!

sa Canada lang ang pagawaan ng Sabian.

doon dati ang pagawaan ng Zildjian para sa mga hand hammered na K (nilipat ng Zildjian galing sa planta ng Kerope Zildjian sa Turkey). nung nagaway si Armand at Robert Zildjian, inangkin ni Robert yung planta sa Canada at bumuo siya ng sarili niyang kumpanya (Sabian). tinangay din ni Robert ang lahat ng mga artisan / cymbalsmith na andun sa plantang yun, kaya ang Sabian ay may hand hammered tradition pa rin kaso ang Zildjian wala na.

so... walang American made na Sabian. North American meron ( :-P), kaso American as in U.S.A., wala.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on January 30, 2009, 03:16:04 PM: edi un north american :-P

check niyo size difference ng logo ng sabian sa cymbals of the same series and size :-o
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on January 30, 2009, 04:13:22 PM: north american kasi nasa north america ang canada!

yung different size logos, dahil lang ibang taon nagawa yun. hindi sa ibang lugar ginawa.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on January 30, 2009, 04:32:19 PM: Ganun ba? thanks for the info bro plep

but it makes me wonder about the stocks @ p. pitch

same finish size series etc. different quality in terms of sound and anyone can distinguish them :o

we tried 2 stage hats both with the same finish, our friend purchased one (aax stage cymbal pack) and the sound is waay different :-o

I had a dilemma of either ordering online or purchase from them :?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on January 30, 2009, 06:51:29 PM: ganun talaga pag cast. actually sabian na nga ang pinaka maganda track record sa consistency ng mga cast e. zildjian, mas malala pa ang discrepancy ng tunog ng dalawang cymbal na pareho size/model/finish. at lalo pa sa mga chinese brands (wuhan, stagg, etc)

kaya pag cast cymbals, as much as possible, buy only what you've tested / heard for yourself. mahirap pag hindi. sa buong buhay ko, dalawang cymbals lang ang binili ko nang di ko narinig muna (20" HH Dark China, 18" AAXplosion Crash - parehong Sabian), at swerte ako na sobrang ganda nila pareho.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on January 31, 2009, 01:34:39 PM: sarap ng china mo! HH 20" :-o

I'm also an owner of an 18" AAXplosion crash and it's the best crash i've used ever :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: migs_23 on February 01, 2009, 12:56:38 AM: nice! i believe sir plep is really making sense there !ahaha. . uhmm. i believe also na CAST=RANDOM hammering.. tama ba? or if ever hindi hammered.. but it simply means.. its random.. :-D ahaha ! nang gulo lang..ahha !
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on February 01, 2009, 09:05:31 AM: Quote from: migs_23 on February 01, 2009, 12:56:38 AM
nice! i believe sir plep is really making sense there !ahaha. . uhmm. i believe also na CAST=RANDOM hammering.. tama ba? or if ever hindi hammered.. but it simply means.. its random.. :-D ahaha ! nang gulo lang..ahha !

nope. ang AA tsaka AAX (and syempre ang A tsaka A Custom) ay symmetrical (or sa terminology ng Zildjian, rotary) hammering. regular ang hammering pattern ng mga ito, kaya makina na ang gumagawa hindi tao. ang pinagkaiba ng AA sa AAX ay
(1) AA = small peen hammering (maliit ulo ng martilyo na gamit), AAX = large peen hammering
(2) AA = traditional wide groove lathing (malapad yung tonal grooves), AAX = pinpoint lathing

ang HH at HHX naman ang may random hammering (tulad ng K, tsaka K Custom). unlike ng Zildjian, kung saan nakaprogram na sa hammering machine yung pagkarandom niya, sa Sabian tao talaga ang nagpaparandom sa hammering. ang pinagkaiba ng HH sa HHX ay
(1) HH = traditional small peen HAND hammering, HHX = large peen human-directed machine hammering
(2) HH = wide groove lathing , HHX = pinpoint lathing

may mga ibang HHX na may traditional hand hammering (Legacy Heavy Ride) kasama ng radical na large peen hammering. tsaka ang mga Fusion Hats ng AA at AAX ay parehong extra heavy na hand hammered ang bottom hat (ang HH Fusion Hats, heavy lang)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: andreiandrei on February 05, 2009, 10:04:50 AM: sino na sa inyo nkakita ng bagong products ng sabian? how would you compare the 21" AA raw bell dry ride to the new 21" AAX raw bell dry ride? 8-)

comments din bout their 11" Alu bells and the 15" APX Solid Hats. Padamihin pa ang products para maraming options! :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Lauch on February 20, 2009, 12:11:35 AM: guys, ok ba i mix ang A custom zildjian sa AA rides ng sabian?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on February 20, 2009, 02:11:00 AM: it's all up to you sir, nasa tenga mo po yan parin kung ano gusto mong preference :-D

A Custom = AAX
AA's are like the avedis lines (correct me if i'm wrong :D)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Lauch on February 20, 2009, 08:34:25 AM: Quote from: tranquildomain on February 20, 2009, 02:11:00 AM
it's all up to you sir, nasa tenga mo po yan parin kung ano gusto mong preference :-D

A Custom = AAX
AA's are like the avedis lines (correct me if i'm wrong :D)

yeah, and so i've heard. Di kasi ako aware sa Sabian line. More of zildjian kasi ako, pinag-aaralan ko lang yung characteristics ng sabian compared sa zildjian. Anyways, overall, ok po ba ang AA lines ng sabian?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on February 20, 2009, 08:47:31 AM: walang bawal ihalo sa set up. basta okay sa tenga mo.

set up ko e may A, K, HH, AAX, SH, Alpha, tsaka Lazer :-P
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mondi99060451 on February 20, 2009, 08:49:19 AM: Quote from: plep on February 20, 2009, 08:47:31 AM
walang bawal ihalo sa set up. basta okay sa tenga mo.

set up ko e may A, K, HH, AAX, SH, Alpha, tsaka Lazer :-P

dagdagan mo pa ng RJ plep... BTW, sold na ung Maggi EL Sabor Ride pare... :cry:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on February 20, 2009, 08:59:04 AM: ayaw ko RJ... Istanbul pwede pa :-P

magparating ka na kasi ng HHX Legacy Heavy Ride (na mura wahahah)!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on February 20, 2009, 06:35:21 PM: at mag pasok ka rin mondi ng aax metal ride 22" instant deal :evil:
Title: Sabian HHX and AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride
Post by: bluesdriver03 on March 17, 2009, 11:50:25 AM: Hi guys!!! Just wanna ask if familiar kayo sa Raw Bell Dry Ride 21" ng Sabian?May nakagamit na ba dito? I know before HH lng may ganito now kasi naglabas ang Sabian sa HHX and AAX RBDR 21". Ask ko lng din comment nyo regarding this model. Thank you, hope that I'll be welcome here... :-)
Title: Re: Sabian HHX and AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride
Post by: Riff_6603 on March 17, 2009, 12:24:45 PM: i got the chance to use this ride, mas ok xia comparable sa HHX raw bell dry ride, raw bell xia like HHX pero mas discerning ung bell nia tska mas audible ung wash., enough to warm up the atmosphere while your playing the set pero not too loud enough to stand out. ung HHX raw bell dry ride kasi mahina ung dating from the audience perspective compared sa aax in terms of cutting bell sounds and washiness ng ride.. point is vintage bright kasi ang AAX kaya ganun ang diff nla though... personal point of view ko lang to, better ask din opinions ng iba! Thanks! :-D
Title: Re: Sabian HHX and AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride
Post by: bluesdriver03 on March 18, 2009, 08:51:29 AM: Thank you very much sa reply mo sir. Balita ko kasi mgpapasok dito sa Pinas ang Yupangco, kaya naghahanap ako ng mga comments kung ok tong model na ito. :lol:
Title: Re: Sabian HHX and AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride
Post by: Setsuna_Boy on March 19, 2009, 08:32:01 PM: Maraming nagsasabi sir na "the most versatile is the AA Raw-Bell Dry Ride". Nakita ko lang sa mga comments sa mga music websites at sa Sabian forums. Hope that helped, im looking for it as well. Kailan kaya magpapasok ang Yupangco? Alam nyo ba sir? Thanks...
Title: Re: Sabian HHX and AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride
Post by: tranquildomain on March 20, 2009, 03:14:22 AM: Slim chance siguro sa yupangco, piling mga cymbal line lang pinapasok, ignore ka pa nila if gusto mo mag pa lakad ng order sa kanila
Title: Re: Sabian HHX and AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride
Post by: toybitz on March 20, 2009, 05:09:08 AM: Hmm...interesting.

I kinda like the sound riding on the bell but yeah, that was HH.

This reminds me of Phil Collins.
Title: Re: Sabian HHX and AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride
Post by: Riff_6603 on March 20, 2009, 05:48:38 AM: Try mo mag-order online. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on March 22, 2009, 02:16:56 PM: meron po bang available na 18" hhx studio crash dito sa pinas?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: trojanpeter on March 26, 2009, 12:11:04 PM: mga sir...

i need comments about

20" AA El sabor ride compare to 20" AAX Stage Ride??

tnx.... i need ur comments..

about the sounds
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tressence on March 26, 2009, 03:34:00 PM: Quote from: trojanpeter on March 26, 2009, 12:11:04 PM
mga sir...

i need comments about

20" AA El sabor ride compare to 20" AAX Stage Ride??

tnx.... i need ur comments..

about the sounds
AAX Stage Ride - manipis ang tunog ng ride area at washy. bell naman e hindi defined at kalat ang tunog.
AA El Sabor - Solid tunog ng bell, full-bodied sound sa ride area. Hindi matinis at manipis. Eto boto ko sa dalawa.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mondi99060451 on March 26, 2009, 06:12:25 PM: Quote from: trojanpeter on March 26, 2009, 12:11:04 PM
mga sir...

i need comments about

20" AA El sabor ride compare to 20" AAX Stage Ride??

tnx.... i need ur comments..

about the sounds

Wag mo papakawalan yung El Sabor mo Peter, manghihinayang ka... That's one helluva ride. Miss na miss ko na nga yan eh... :cry:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tressence on March 26, 2009, 06:54:37 PM: nako wag na wag. kung may nag ooffer ng trade sa AA el sabor mo ng AAX stage ride. sabihin mo "NEK NEK MO!" :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tipsyboy on March 26, 2009, 08:11:03 PM: mga sir, ano po ba tunog ng vault artisan ride? both light and medium models. curious lang ako kasi grabe yung hammering sa kanya. mukha talaga siyang binugbog, and i haven't really played one yet, or heard someone play an artisan ride.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: trojanpeter on March 27, 2009, 08:41:55 AM: Quote from: mondi99060451 on March 26, 2009, 06:12:25 PM
Wag mo papakawalan yung El Sabor mo Peter, manghihinayang ka... That's one helluva ride. Miss na miss ko na nga yan eh... :cry:

sir mondy, i need comments lang naman..
curious lang naman ako sa tunog ng AAX Stage Ride

But it doesn't mean na ibebenta ko or trade..
I really love this sound nga...

Di kayo ngakamali ng Pinagbentahan sir...
Actually nagamit ko na nga sya sa recording namin..

Tnx 4 all the comment guys!!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 27, 2009, 09:49:45 AM: Quote from: trojanpeter on March 27, 2009, 08:41:55 AM
sir mondy, i need comments lang naman..
curious lang naman ako sa tunog ng AAX Stage Ride

But it doesn't mean na ibebenta ko or trade..
I really love this sound nga...

Di kayo ngakamali ng Pinagbentahan sir...
Actually nagamit ko na nga sya sa recording namin..

Tnx 4 all the comment guys!!

kung ibebenta mo naman bro, sakin mo na ibenta :D :D :D
sobrang mahal ko yung ride na yan, yun nga lang,
sayo siya napunta :) ahahaha
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: trojanpeter on March 27, 2009, 10:15:16 AM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on March 27, 2009, 09:49:45 AM
kung ibebenta mo naman bro, sakin mo na ibenta :D :D :D
sobrang mahal ko yung ride na yan, yun nga lang,
sayo siya napunta :) ahahaha

ganun ba sir Ralph??

maibebenta ko lang sya pag nakakita ako ng 22" HH Rock Ride, at saktong may budget ako :-D

Pero as of now wala pa ako nakikita, wala pa din budget... kaya i have no plans!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 27, 2009, 08:22:02 PM: Quote from: trojanpeter on March 27, 2009, 10:15:16 AM
ganun ba sir Ralph??

maibebenta ko lang sya pag nakakita ako ng 22" HH Rock Ride, at saktong may budget ako :-D

Pero as of now wala pa ako nakikita, wala pa din budget... kaya i have no plans!

nakuuuu HH rock ride 22?
pahirapan yan bro! pagnagkakaroon niyan sa classifieds,
naguunahan ung tao. hahaha tapos ang mahal pa niyan =))

pero un nga lang, maganda tlagaaaaa =)

ang pagasa: import! =))
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on March 28, 2009, 01:43:31 AM: Yup +1 kay ralph.

International order lang pag asa sa KARAMIHANG sabian lines sa ating bansa.

karamihang in demand sa ibang bansa wala dito :-o
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 28, 2009, 01:49:50 AM: Quote from: tranquildomain on March 28, 2009, 01:43:31 AM
Yup +1 kay ralph.

International order lang pag asa sa KARAMIHANG sabian lines sa ating bansa.

karamihang in demand sa ibang bansa wala dito :-o

sobraaaaa.

naaalala ko, meron si mondi na HHX EVolution na Crash.
saglit lang na panahon, nabenta agad.

pag lumapit ka naman sa yupangco, B8's lang makukuha mo, if you're lucky, AAX kaso limited lang to stage models lang ata.

AA Raw Bell Dry Ride. . . hayyyyy now that's a ride =)) ahahaha

tama si bro tranquildomain, ung mga talagang gusto nating mga sabian ay wala dito sa bansa.

kaya ang pagasa tlaga. . .

CLASSIFIEDS! PA-SHIP! ahahaha
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on March 28, 2009, 11:33:57 AM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on March 28, 2009, 01:49:50 AM
sobraaaaa.

naaalala ko, meron si mondi na HHX EVolution na Crash.
saglit lang na panahon, nabenta agad.

pag lumapit ka naman sa yupangco, B8's lang makukuha mo, if you're lucky, AAX kaso limited lang to stage models lang ata.

AA Raw Bell Dry Ride. . . hayyyyy now that's a ride =)) ahahaha

tama si bro tranquildomain, ung mga talagang gusto nating mga sabian ay wala dito sa bansa.

kaya ang pagasa tlaga. . .

CLASSIFIEDS! PA-SHIP! ahahaha

May dadating na HHX and AAX Raw Bell Dry Ride mga July or August sa Yupangco. I hope makapagantay ka Sir.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: trojanpeter on March 30, 2009, 08:43:07 PM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on March 27, 2009, 08:22:02 PM
nakuuuu HH rock ride 22?
pahirapan yan bro! pagnagkakaroon niyan sa classifieds,
naguunahan ung tao. hahaha tapos ang mahal pa niyan =))

pero un nga lang, maganda tlagaaaaa =)

ang pagasa: import! =))

Aw... ayun lang.. Hanap nalang ako kakilala sa Ibang bansa!!
Oo nga ehh, bakit ganun yupangco??
kulang kulang mag benta ng mga sabian cymbals??
Ano bang reason nila???
Bakit di cla masyado ng iimport ng mga ibang models??
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on March 31, 2009, 02:30:55 AM: Sayang dapat ang pinasok niyo na RBDR ay AA series

sana nag rresearch sa sabian community forums about reviews, comments on different cymbals rin yung nag aasikaso ng flow ng products sa yupangco para malaman potential sales neto hindi lang ung bargain ay kuha na agad para masabing may stock ng cymbals.. nkaka inis na eh :x

loyal ako sa cymbal line na to kaso hindi madali mag buo sa ating bansa ng sabian setup :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on March 31, 2009, 10:09:32 AM: Quote from: tranquildomain on March 31, 2009, 02:30:55 AM
Sayang dapat ang pinasok niyo na RBDR ay AA series

sana nag rresearch sa sabian community forums about reviews, comments on different cymbals rin yung nag aasikaso ng flow ng products sa yupangco para malaman potential sales neto hindi lang ung bargain ay kuha na agad para masabing may stock ng cymbals.. nkaka inis na eh :x

loyal ako sa cymbal line na to kaso hindi madali mag buo sa ating bansa ng sabian setup :lol:

Sorry Sir if you are dissapointed, bagong labas kasi itong Model na ito (HHX & AAX RBDR) that's why ito and itatry na ipasok ng Yupangco. At isa pa, matagal nawalan ng Specialist ang Sabian sa company ng Yupangco.
Anyway, natry mo na ba yung AA RBDR vs. AAX or HHX RBDR? Can you tell me the difference? Malaking tulong kung masasagot mo ito...

Sana di ka na mainis....
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on April 01, 2009, 12:58:17 AM: Sorry out of frustration rin, based rin sa experiences noon sa dating staff ng pitch southmall.. rude attitude kasi :-)

pwede raw mag order ng cymbals, bigay lang raw model ng cymbal contact info etc.. kaso 4x na ako dumaan ala rin nangyari, di lang ako ang na ganto sa pitch southmall promise!

kaso atleast nung sabado mabait naman yung mga tao na nandun.. different faces and ayun na sabihan na ako regarding the sale nila.

anyway may kakilala ako taga US na sabian user talaga and meron siya AAX RBDR.

basing on popularity the AA RBDR are highly recommended due to it's flexibility to different musical styles and it's greaaaaat stick definition and ping.. Tamang tama lang ang wash niya.. di gaano bright di rin gaano dark

alam naman natin ang difference ng X series kasi they have the modern sound.

ok rin ang aax rbdr more on the rock, metal approach para sakin..

regarding other cymbals..

here are the most common cymbals na in demand dito sa philmusic : aaxplosion crashes 18", aax stage hats 14", max stax (mas masarap sa tenga ung stax compared sa chopper para sa akin)
try niyo rin lagay ng aax metal ride 22" they are greaaaat sounding rides killer ping

tulungan tayo dito mga ser 8-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on April 08, 2009, 11:32:31 AM: Quote from: tranquildomain on April 01, 2009, 12:58:17 AM
Sorry out of frustration rin, based rin sa experiences noon sa dating staff ng pitch southmall.. rude attitude kasi :-)

pwede raw mag order ng cymbals, bigay lang raw model ng cymbal contact info etc.. kaso 4x na ako dumaan ala rin nangyari, di lang ako ang na ganto sa pitch southmall promise!

kaso atleast nung sabado mabait naman yung mga tao na nandun.. different faces and ayun na sabihan na ako regarding the sale nila.

anyway may kakilala ako taga US na sabian user talaga and meron siya AAX RBDR.

basing on popularity the AA RBDR are highly recommended due to it's flexibility to different musical styles and it's greaaaaat stick definition and ping.. Tamang tama lang ang wash niya.. di gaano bright di rin gaano dark

alam naman natin ang difference ng X series kasi they have the modern sound.

ok rin ang aax rbdr more on the rock, metal approach para sakin..

regarding other cymbals..

here are the most common cymbals na in demand dito sa philmusic : aaxplosion crashes 18", aax stage hats 14", max stax (mas masarap sa tenga ung stax compared sa chopper para sa akin)
try niyo rin lagay ng aax metal ride 22" they are greaaaat sounding rides killer ping

tulungan tayo dito mga ser 8-)

Thank you so much sa reply. I'm sorry to hear na nagkaron ka ng bad experience sa Perfect Pitch Southmall. The thing is franchise sya before but ngayon outright na sya kaya different faces nga ika mo. Okay yung mga tao dun actually masarap magasikaso ng client yung mga yun.
Regarding po dun sa mga suggestions nyo sa cymbals, I'm really thankful at may interaction pala talaga dito and I think it will help me a lot.
One question ulit sir, may gumagamit ba ng chopper and you think pwede tong maging in demand sa mga drummers like you? Isa na rin yung alo bells, same question. Nakagamit ka na ba nito?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on April 14, 2009, 02:34:00 AM: Meron akong 9" Alubel lakas neto.. okay lang mag ka alubels na stock lalo na small sizes neto.. about the chopper mahal talaga presiyo neto kahit sa ibang bansa.. mahirap mabenta to kasi pang soudn effects/ accent lang magagawa neto and the price range is comparable sa max stax and the max stax are more acceptable in terms of it's sound quality.

dagdagan rin siguro mga apx cymbals kasi para sakin eto pinakamaganda na b8 cymbals ngayon, magaling talaga yung line na to hehehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on April 14, 2009, 08:31:59 AM: Quote from: tranquildomain on April 14, 2009, 02:34:00 AM
dagdagan rin siguro mga apx cymbals kasi para sakin eto pinakamaganda na b8 cymbals ngayon, magaling talaga yung line na to hehehe

*ubo*2002*ubo*

yung mga chopper/max stax, madali ireplicate gamit ng mumurahing cymbals.

yung alubell maganda, kaso hindi kasing talas ng mga ibang bell ang tunog.
Title: Sabian AAX HHX Ozone Crash Any Good?
Post by: smutdrummer on April 23, 2009, 10:17:14 AM: Sabian AAX HHX Ozone Crash Any Good?
thanks mga ser and mam
anong masasabi niyo sa tunog sa mga nkapalo na nito?

sorry mods, naggawa na lang muna ako ng bagong thread para madaling makita then lets just merge this to the sabian thread kung meron? thanks.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Lauch on April 23, 2009, 04:26:51 PM: mga sir, can anyone tell me the difference between an AAX studio and stage ride? :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: tranquildomain on April 25, 2009, 06:47:11 PM: kung bagong release ng 2002 pwede pa :lol:

sa stage and studio compare mo nlng ung cymbals sa sabian.com kaso siyempre iba ung actual na mapapakinggan mo siya but one thing's for sure hindi ko gusto ang stage ride :lol:
Title: Re: Sabian AAX HHX Ozone Crash Any Good?
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 25, 2009, 11:48:01 PM: i tried ung HHX na ozone. 16 incher. kay ayo ng thought prison.
ill describe it nalang according to my ear.
it has a crash sound na very aggresive with slight thrashiness and a very nice white noise decay. think of a fusion between a china and a crash. very very nice. =) kaso lang, medyo wobbly siya pag hinahataw. and i'd be very carefull hitting it hard.

hope this helps bro :)
Title: Re: Sabian AAX HHX Ozone Crash Any Good?
Post by: kibohead on April 26, 2009, 12:06:39 AM: kakatakot talaga!!! :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on April 26, 2009, 11:18:15 AM: sir tanong lang po!

more on rock at prog po ang tinutugtog ko...
lookong for a more decent ride na rin kapalit ng b8 pro 20" ride ko...

ok po ba ang el sabor para sa genre ko...ganda kasi ng tunog eh...
or should i go for 22 hh rock ride?...na sobrang hirap hanapin!hehe

alin po ba yung mas madadalian ako maghanap at mas babagay?

salamat sa tulong! :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 26, 2009, 12:01:50 PM: Quote from: mambo on April 26, 2009, 11:18:15 AM
sir tanong lang po!

more on rock at prog po ang tinutugtog ko...
lookong for a more decent ride na rin kapalit ng b8 pro 20" ride ko...

ok po ba ang el sabor para sa genre ko...ganda kasi ng tunog eh...
or should i go for 22 hh rock ride?...na sobrang hirap hanapin!hehe

alin po ba yung mas madadalian ako maghanap at mas babagay?

salamat sa tulong! :-D

bro mambo!
=)

anyway, parehas maganda yang ride na gusto mo, pero una sa lahat. . .

1. mas bagay ang El sabor sa music mo kasi mas hi-pitched siya

2. pero ung HH naman, 22, kaya okay din! =)

try mo kung ano ung swak sa panlasa mo, pero un lang. . .

parehas silang MAHAL tsaka parehas MAHIRAP hanapin! hahaha

try mo kay mondi bro, baka maikuha ka niya :)

goodluck! :)
Title: Re: Sabian AAX HHX Ozone Crash Any Good?
Post by: tranquildomain on April 26, 2009, 12:39:21 PM: darker version of the a-custom special FX crash.. same ozone concept from the sabian hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on April 27, 2009, 02:41:26 PM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on April 26, 2009, 12:01:50 PM
bro mambo!
=)

anyway, parehas maganda yang ride na gusto mo, pero una sa lahat. . .

1. mas bagay ang El sabor sa music mo kasi mas hi-pitched siya

2. pero ung HH naman, 22, kaya okay din! =)

try mo kung ano ung swak sa panlasa mo, pero un lang. . .

parehas silang MAHAL tsaka parehas MAHIRAP hanapin! hahaha

try mo kay mondi bro, baka maikuha ka niya :)

goodluck! :)

salamat sir ralph!!

actually mas trip ko talaga yung el sabor kasi kasi parang may something sa kanya na gustong gusto ko.hehehe yung 22 naman, kasi feeling ko safe sya para sa genre na tinutugtog ko....

salamat sa tulong ulit!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on April 27, 2009, 04:40:55 PM: mambo:
marami malamang na cymbals bagay sa tugtugan niyo. at hindi rin lahat ng cymbals na parehong model ay parehong tunog. posibleng nakarinig ka ng el sabor na swak sa tenga mo kaso sa susunod na makatugtog ka nun, parang kulang na ang tunog. ganun lang talaga. with cymbals, it's not so much the model as the individual cymbal itself (except with paiste hehe).

sarili mo lang pinapahirapan mo kung specific na model ang hanap mo, at lalo na pag yung specific na model na yun ay hindi available dito. pahirapan na maghanap, baka madisappoint ka pa kung yung makuha mo ay di yung inaasam-asam mo.

hindi sa sinisira ko ang pangarap mo sa cymbals... kaso keep an open mind lang. wag ka masyado tumutok sa paghanap niyan. tignan m pa rin an yung mga readily available. mahirap na sarado isip mo sa ibang options, lalo na kung mas madali at posibleng mas okay pa nga yung mga option na yun kesa dun sa pinapangarap mo.

marami na rin ako nadaanan na ganyan:
dati pangarap ko oriental china trash kasi ganda ng tunog sa mga recording... yun pala dahil processed na yung tunog. hanggang ngayon wala pa rin ako naririnig na oriental trash na masarap sa tenga tulad ng hh dark china ko.
tapos naging pangarap ko naman k custom ride... eh yun pala swak na sa kailangan ko yung "vanilla" na a medium ride.

KASO... tama pala ang pinangarap ko na aaxplosion :evil:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on April 28, 2009, 04:57:35 AM: Quote from: plep on April 27, 2009, 04:40:55 PM
mambo:
marami malamang na cymbals bagay sa tugtugan niyo. at hindi rin lahat ng cymbals na parehong model ay parehong tunog. posibleng nakarinig ka ng el sabor na swak sa tenga mo kaso sa susunod na makatugtog ka nun, parang kulang na ang tunog. ganun lang talaga. with cymbals, it's not so much the model as the individual cymbal itself (except with paiste hehe).

sarili mo lang pinapahirapan mo kung specific na model ang hanap mo, at lalo na pag yung specific na model na yun ay hindi available dito. pahirapan na maghanap, baka madisappoint ka pa kung yung makuha mo ay di yung inaasam-asam mo.

hindi sa sinisira ko ang pangarap mo sa cymbals... kaso keep an open mind lang. wag ka masyado tumutok sa paghanap niyan. tignan m pa rin an yung mga readily available. mahirap na sarado isip mo sa ibang options, lalo na kung mas madali at posibleng mas okay pa nga yung mga option na yun kesa dun sa pinapangarap mo.

marami na rin ako nadaanan na ganyan:
dati pangarap ko oriental china trash kasi ganda ng tunog sa mga recording... yun pala dahil processed na yung tunog. hanggang ngayon wala pa rin ako naririnig na oriental trash na masarap sa tenga tulad ng hh dark china ko.
tapos naging pangarap ko naman k custom ride... eh yun pala swak na sa kailangan ko yung "vanilla" na a medium ride.

KASO... tama pala ang pinangarap ko na aaxplosion :evil:

ahhh...salamat sir plep

consider ko po yung sinabi mo...
probably best option ko lang naman yung dalawa....but then again... maghanap pa ko na ibang rides, baka nga naman makahanap ako ng panalo na ride at sulit sa bulsa.

salamat ulit!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kevzkie024 on May 15, 2009, 10:37:05 PM: mga sir! ask ko lang po, magkanu ang sabian xs20 na set?
maganda po ba un as my personal cymbals?
pop/punk/alternative rock po ang genre ko and ng band namin. :-)

if ndi po bagay, bgay na din po kayo ng bagay na cymbals for the genre.
tnx sa magrereply! \m/
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: addbot02 on May 23, 2009, 08:58:55 AM: mga bro durable din ba ang B8?
magkano na set neto ngaun?
pinag pipiliian ko sana ZBT o B8
kaso mukang mahal ung B8..
kapos sa budget.. TIA :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: phfreq on May 23, 2009, 10:01:53 AM: Quote from: addbot02 on May 23, 2009, 08:58:55 AM
mga bro durable din ba ang B8?
magkano na set neto ngaun?
pinag pipiliian ko sana ZBT o B8
kaso mukang mahal ung B8..
kapos sa budget.. TIA :wink:

mas nagustuhan ko ung mga B8Pro na crash and ride kaysa dun sa zbt na crash and ride of the same size.. (though hindi ko alam yung katumbas nung b8pro sa zildjian). Pero nagustuhan ko ung tunog ng zbt 13" hihats..
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: paradiddle on May 29, 2009, 09:37:01 AM: Quote from: addbot02 on May 23, 2009, 08:58:55 AM
mga bro durable din ba ang B8?
magkano na set neto ngaun?
pinag pipiliian ko sana ZBT o B8
kaso mukang mahal ung B8..
kapos sa budget.. TIA :wink:

Yung B8's ko na binili pa nung mid to late 90's buhay pa and ginagamit ko pa hanggang ngayon, so I guess durable sila. hehehe. Mag B8 ka na lang instead of zbt... :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: phfreq on May 29, 2009, 10:54:00 AM: jojo mayer discusses his cymbal setup

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Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: addbot02 on June 09, 2009, 07:59:03 PM: ahh salamat mga bok!
mas mahal kse b8 sa
zbt eh... ipon pa! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: migs_23 on June 10, 2009, 08:58:05 AM: Quote from: plep on April 14, 2009, 08:31:59 AM
*ubo*2002*ubo*

yung mga chopper/max stax, madali ireplicate gamit ng mumurahing cymbals.

yung alubell maganda, kaso hindi kasing talas ng mga ibang bell ang tunog.

Yup madali i-replicate yung mga 'to but i believe iba talaga pag authentic.. just compare the nike original shoes to the fake ones..ibang iba ang quality..right?.. just my thought.. :-D peace
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jzaina16 on June 28, 2009, 03:37:45 PM: good day mga kapatid! i need help on what type of cymbals to buy! 2nd time ko pa lang to bumili and di ko talaga alam kung ano ang bibilhin ko between PAISTE 101 Brass and PAISTE 201 Bronze Standard Set! 9k lng din kc budget for the crash,ride & hi-hats! ano kaya ung maganda sa dalawa? kahit ano lng ung trip ko bsta kung baga - it does the work! n may magamit ako! ung cymbals ko ngayon ay set ng Planet Z! or ok din ba ung PAISTE PST3 ung set din? nakita ko kc sa net na almost ka-price lng ng mga PAISTE Standard sets.... totoo ba un?

n ung SABIAN na PRO SONIC SET(hihat,crash,ride), mga 9k din ba un? n ok din ba? n san ako pwede bumili ng mga to?

MALAKING tulong talaga to sa kin mga sir! di lng sa akin lahat cguro d2 sa amin sa ZAMBOANGA! i need to decide bcoz i have to go to Manila just to buy these! salamat....
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: leygomz on June 28, 2009, 10:35:51 PM: Good pm po mga sir, I went to Perfect Pitch megamall yesterday and saw this O-zone AAX 18" yata or 17" crash.. May promo kasi sila na 0% interest for 1 year until august 31, and kung hindi ako nagkakamali e ang price nung O-zone is ranging around 10K or more tas ang per month basis e kulang kulang 1k. Hingi lang sana ako payo niyo bago ako bumili dun.. :-)

Need some comments nadin about the Sabian Signature Series Chad Smith 18.5" Explosion Crash. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vnavpath on June 29, 2009, 02:27:43 AM: The Sabian Signature Series Chad Smith 18.5" Explosion Crash is a main power crash. Good in all types of mid-outdoor setup, Not that good in the studio, due to the loudness of the cymbal. In terms of sound quality, Its better than B8 and B8 pros plus I can match this up with the AAX Explosion crash 18" upto 85% similar in tone and projection. ( I actually compared both actual cymbal in my studio) The differences of the Chad smith cymbal is made up of material B8 metal and personally catered to the type of music RedHotChilipep wants. But its hammering style has created the sound quite similar to the AAXplosion crash. Now compared to a B20 metal of the AAX, the AAX has more Tin, Silver making it more musical than the chad smith, I guess thats what I can say about that. I did some research and made actual test with some drummer in a studio environment and recorded them live. I havent test the AAX outdoors yet :-D :-D.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: leygomz on June 29, 2009, 09:09:03 AM: Quote from: vnavpath on June 29, 2009, 02:27:43 AM
The Sabian Signature Series Chad Smith 18.5" Explosion Crash is a main power crash. Good in all types of mid-outdoor setup, Not that good in the studio, due to the loudness of the cymbal. In terms of sound quality, Its better than B8 and B8 pros plus I can match this up with the AAX Explosion crash 18" upto 85% similar in tone and projection. ( I actually compared both actual cymbal in my studio) The differences of the Chad smith cymbal is made up of material B8 metal and personally catered to the type of music RedHotChilipep wants. But its hammering style has created the sound quite similar to the AAXplosion crash. Now compared to a B20 metal of the AAX, the AAX has more Tin, Silver making it more musical than the chad smith, I guess thats what I can say about that. I did some research and made actual test with some drummer in a studio environment and recorded them live. I havent test the AAX outdoors yet :-D :-D.

Astig sir, excited nako makuha yang cymbals mo mamaya!!! :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: dasplinter on June 30, 2009, 12:18:01 AM: Quote from: kulapoot on July 09, 2006, 03:56:30 AM
Sabian B8 pro. (hihat crash ride)set

san nkkabili neto at mgkano??

Salamat tlga!!

20" b8 pro ride. 3 pc 12" b8 pro stage hats
na may kasamang 5 pc. maya drum set
nabili ko to sa kaibigan ng kuya ko for..
"P9500"
panalo pa sa condition.. bentang adik e.
stig no?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kwarto on July 05, 2009, 06:38:02 PM: Meron pa po bang mabibili na brand new B8pro or Xs20. How much po ung set nito. Salamat po.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sjon014 on July 06, 2009, 12:28:31 PM: Wala na atang B8 Pro in circulation.

Brand new?

Regular B8's are 15,995, and the XS20's are 23,995. Lahat yan 14" hats, 16" crash, and 18" Ride. Available at Perfect Pitch/Yupangco stores.

Second hand? Nagkalat ang mint condish na XS20 sa Classifieds natin oh.XD
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,137604.0.html

^ Yan, for 15k, may XS20 set ka na. I bet pwede pang tawaran haha.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kwarto on July 06, 2009, 03:02:49 PM: Maraming salamat po sir sjon014. anu po kaya mas okay pang rehearsal studio? i used to have the planetz kaso madali nawasak. now the meinl headliners punit na ung crash. any suggestions mga sirs!

"keep on rockin' in the free world" \m/
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sjon014 on July 06, 2009, 03:16:54 PM: Pang... studio? Nako, I wouldn't advise investing in uber-mahal na Cymbals - pero wag ka rin namang mag brass like Headliners and Planet Z's.

Suggestion ko, mag Sabian B8 ka na lang. They sound okay, plus hindi masyadong mahal. Tapos... use a Crash-Ride (or kahit Ride) as a Crash. Kasi sa most rehearsal studios na napupuntahan ko, Crash ang unang nadadale. Crash ang laging punit. Nakakapanghinayang makakita ng punit na 19" Zildjian K Dark Crash Thin. :lol:

The XS20 is better than the B8 by the way, pero OK din naman ang B8. Para sakin, they beat the Zildjian ZBT's sa entry-level.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jzaina16 on July 11, 2009, 04:46:42 AM: ung b8 na set(HH,Crash,ride) ay 9k ba or 15k? saan ung store na cguradong meron nito? salamat!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sjon014 on July 11, 2009, 05:39:48 AM: 15.9k. Yupangco, Perfect Pitch, Yamaha.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jzaina16 on July 14, 2009, 02:23:05 PM: sirs, may nakita akong ngbebenta ng B8 set for 11k Brandnew, ayos na ba un ung price? and cgurado ok ung B8's ha? salamat!!!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jzaina16 on July 15, 2009, 03:51:03 AM: mga sir, matanong ko nga, may ngbebenta sa akin ng B8 for 11k? brandnew! tama na ba ung price nun? wala naman cgurong possiblity na fake un ano?

--- no offense bka makita to ng ngbebenta sa kin, gsto ko lng manigurado sir! salamat!!!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: wireme on July 15, 2009, 09:32:45 AM: Quote from: jzaina16 on July 15, 2009, 03:51:03 AM
mga sir, matanong ko nga, may ngbebenta sa akin ng B8 for 11k? brandnew! tama na ba ung price nun? wala naman cgurong possiblity na fake un ano?

--- no offense bka makita to ng ngbebenta sa kin, gsto ko lng manigurado sir! salamat!!!

mura na yan sa brand new, tsaka mahirap mag fake ng cymbals, wala pa naman ako nakita na gumawa ng fake.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plitipiw40315 on July 15, 2009, 10:11:45 AM: Quote from: jzaina16 on July 15, 2009, 03:51:03 AM
mga sir, matanong ko nga, may ngbebenta sa akin ng B8 for 11k? brandnew! tama na ba ung price nun? wala naman cgurong possiblity na fake un ano?

--- no offense bka makita to ng ngbebenta sa kin, gsto ko lng manigurado sir! salamat!!!

tama si wireme bro, mura na yan, kukunin ko nga sana yan eh, kaso kahirap mebenta cymbals ko.. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vnavpath on July 15, 2009, 10:38:30 AM: try to contact dreamtheaterfan66f, daming B8s yun for sale bnew pa.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jzaina16 on July 15, 2009, 01:45:54 PM: hehehe.... xa nga! sa kanya ako ngpareserve,... di ba un xa nauubusan? kay sabi ko sa 30 pa ko makakabili! dahil sa 30 ang dating ko sa manila! insert ko lng mga sir, gusto ko ilagay ung isang mounted na tom sa tabi ng floor tom, anong kelangan ko ung tom holder or ung clamp? or may difference ba cla?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sjon014 on July 18, 2009, 04:50:21 PM: Quote from: jzaina16 on July 15, 2009, 01:45:54 PM
hehehe.... xa nga! sa kanya ako ngpareserve,... di ba un xa nauubusan? kay sabi ko sa 30 pa ko makakabili! dahil sa 30 ang dating ko sa manila! insert ko lng mga sir, gusto ko ilagay ung isang mounted na tom sa tabi ng floor tom, anong kelangan ko ung tom holder or ung clamp? or may difference ba cla?

You need both.
Here's what I did to my rack tom: (see pic)

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8138/rackfloortom.jpg)

What you'll need:
A cymbal stand in close proximity to your floor tom. (Preferably boom for easier cymbal placement)
A basic grabber clamp
A tom arm/holder (isolated mount optional)

Alternatively, you could buy floor tom legs, and leg mounts - but you'll need to drill additional holes in your shell.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kawal on July 27, 2009, 04:34:17 PM: eto nabili ko last week,

(http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionlarge/Sabian/538031jpg.jpg)

mga 13k lang inabot. good deal. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 05, 2009, 07:57:43 PM: Quote from: kawal on July 27, 2009, 04:34:17 PM
eto nabili ko last week,

(http://images.guitarcenter.com/products/optionlarge/Sabian/538031jpg.jpg)

mga 13k lang inabot. good deal. :-)

san nabili?meron pa kaya stock?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 05, 2009, 09:14:50 PM: Quote from: ChocoMani on September 05, 2009, 07:57:43 PM

san nabili?meron pa kaya stock?

meron palagi sa forum bro, abang ka lang palagi.. ito mga possible sellers that might tickle your interest.. 8-)

Sabian B8 Set
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,146175.0.html
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,73121.0.html

Sabian Sonix Pro
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,148501.0.html
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,145301.0.html

Sabian XS20 Set
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,130358.0.html
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 07, 2009, 07:31:10 PM: Quote from: Riff_66603 on September 05, 2009, 09:14:50 PM
meron palagi sa forum bro, abang ka lang palagi.. ito mga possible sellers that might tickle your interest.. 8-)

Sabian B8 Set
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,146175.0.html
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,73121.0.html

Sabian Sonix Pro
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,148501.0.html
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,145301.0.html

Sabian XS20 Set
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,130358.0.html

tnx sir riff.
tinexx q na ung seller ng xs20.buti hindi nya rush.tnx sir :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on September 16, 2009, 04:22:36 PM: Guys FYI! Here are the new models of Sabian Cymbals arrived and available at Yupangco as of September 2009:

21" HHX RAW BELL DRY RIDE
21" AAX RAW BELL DRY RIDE
21" AAX MEMPHIS RIDE
16" AAXPLOSION FAST CRASH
18" AAXPLOSION FAST CRASH
19" AAXPLOSION FAST CRASH
15" APX SOLID HATS
7" RADIA NANO HATS
9" RADIA NANO HATS
13" ARTISAN HATS
14" ARTISAN HATS
16" ARTISAN CRASH
18" ARTISAN CRASH

You can check them personally by visiting at G.A. Yupangco Building at Makati

Many thanks.... :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 16, 2009, 10:02:30 PM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on September 16, 2009, 04:22:36 PM
Guys FYI! Here are the new models of Sabian Cymbals arrived and available at Yupangco as of September 2009:

21" HHX RAW BELL DRY RIDE
21" AAX RAW BELL DRY RIDE
21" AAX MEMPHIS RIDE
16" AAXPLOSION FAST CRASH
18" AAXPLOSION FAST CRASH
19" AAXPLOSION FAST CRASH
15" APX SOLID HATS
7" RADIA NANO HATS
9" RADIA NANO HATS
13" ARTISAN HATS
14" ARTISAN HATS
16" ARTISAN CRASH
18" ARTISAN CRASH

You can check them personally by visiting at G.A. Yupangco Building at Makati

Many thanks.... :wink:

WALA NANG IPUNAN!!! GAS ATTACK NA AKO!!! :-o
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on September 17, 2009, 01:48:30 AM: wahahah nauna pa magkaroon ng 18+" AAXplosion fast crash kesa nung original na AAXplosion.

minsan di ko talaga maintindihan ang yupangco at ang mga pinapasok nila na mga models ng sabian.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 17, 2009, 04:05:17 AM: Quote from: plep on September 17, 2009, 01:48:30 AM
wahahah nauna pa magkaroon ng 18+" AAXplosion fast crash kesa nung original na AAXplosion.

minsan di ko talaga maintindihan ang yupangco at ang mga pinapasok nila na mga models ng sabian.

sinabi mo pa! haha! ung AAXplosion nag special order na nga lang ako kay wireme, at least ung fast crash easy access kahit papaano.. :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 17, 2009, 05:21:37 PM: mga sir help!
meron po bang set ng xs20 na may 18" med thin crash?.
bale 14" HH,16" crash,20" ride,18" med thin crash.
mag kano kaya ito?at saan? :? :? :?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kino on September 18, 2009, 02:31:12 AM: Quote from: ChocoMani on September 17, 2009, 05:21:37 PM
mga sir help!
meron po bang set ng xs20 na may 18" med thin crash?.
bale 14" HH,16" crash,20" ride,18" med thin crash.
mag kano kaya ito?at saan? :? :? :?

AFAIK sa yupangco meron XS20 super set w/ 10" Splash & 18" thin crash nga lang.. Php 39,950 ask mo na lang kung may discount pa. You can sell naman the splash kung 14" HH, 16 & 18" Crashes and 20" ride lang naman ang gusto mo. :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 18, 2009, 07:56:10 AM: Quote from: kino on September 18, 2009, 02:31:12 AM
AFAIK sa yupangco meron XS20 super set w/ 10" Splash & 18" thin crash nga lang.. Php 39,950 ask mo na lang kung may discount pa. You can sell naman the splash kung 14" HH, 16 & 18" Crashes and 20" ride lang naman ang gusto mo. :wink:
sir kino.meron kayang separate na nabibiling xs20 na 18"crash?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sjon014 on September 18, 2009, 08:34:43 AM: Separate na 18" XS20 Med-Thin, meron. :-) 7+ thou, IIRC.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on September 18, 2009, 11:19:05 AM: Quote from: ChocoMani on September 17, 2009, 05:21:37 PM
mga sir help!
meron po bang set ng xs20 na may 18" med thin crash?.
bale 14" HH,16" crash,20" ride,18" med thin crash.
mag kano kaya ito?at saan? :? :? :?
Meron sa Yupangco ng XS20 Performance set cymbals w/ free 18" medium thin crash. 24k.ang reg.price, limited stock na nga lang Sir. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on September 18, 2009, 11:24:17 AM: Quote from: plep on September 17, 2009, 01:48:30 AM
wahahah nauna pa magkaroon ng 18+" AAXplosion fast crash kesa nung original na AAXplosion.

minsan di ko talaga maintindihan ang yupangco at ang mga pinapasok nila na mga models ng sabian.
Sir medyo matagal po kasi nawalan ang Yupangco ng Product Specialst ng Sabian. If you want sir gawa kayo ng thread regarding sa mga suggestions nyo, then para mapagaralan. Thanks.. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 18, 2009, 02:45:45 PM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on September 18, 2009, 11:19:05 AM
Meron sa Yupangco ng XS20 Performance set cymbals w/ free 18" medium thin crash. 24k.ang reg.price, limited stock na nga lang Sir. :-)
meron pa kaya hanggang ngaun sir?.ang budget kasi sa october pa.alam mo ba sir ung contact no. ng yupangco?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 18, 2009, 02:46:58 PM: Quote from: sjon014 on September 18, 2009, 08:34:43 AM
Separate na 18" XS20 Med-Thin, meron. :-) 7+ thou, IIRC.
OX sir.saan IIRC?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kino on September 18, 2009, 03:04:49 PM: Quote from: ChocoMani on September 18, 2009, 02:46:58 PM
OX sir.saan IIRC?

IIRC = If I Recall/Remember Correctly

try calling yupangco kung meron pa sila nito, or ask bluesdriver03 I think he is from yupangco. :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 18, 2009, 03:49:38 PM: sori sir.newbie plang ako eh.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 18, 2009, 03:51:53 PM: sir blues.kelan exact date na mag sasale ung yupangco.pwedeng pa kita qng mag kano ung price list ng xs20 ung with free 18" med thin crash.tnx sir.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on September 19, 2009, 10:16:20 AM: Quote from: ChocoMani on September 18, 2009, 03:51:53 PM
sir blues.kelan exact date na mag sasale ung yupangco.pwedeng pa kita qng mag kano ung price list ng xs20 ung with free 18" med thin crash.tnx sir.

Magkakaron ng Sales sa October. Pero my PM na ko sa iyo, pakibasa na lang po.Tnx :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ChocoMani on September 21, 2009, 05:07:02 PM: ty sir blues.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on September 22, 2009, 11:01:19 PM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on September 18, 2009, 11:24:17 AM
Sir medyo matagal po kasi nawalan ang Yupangco ng Product Specialst ng Sabian. If you want sir gawa kayo ng thread regarding sa mga suggestions nyo, then para mapagaralan. Thanks.. :-)

hmm. unang una, posible na ba mag-special order ng sabian ngayon? paikot-ikot lang dati ang sagot ng mga taga yupangco e.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on September 23, 2009, 12:39:25 AM: Quote from: plep on September 22, 2009, 11:01:19 PM
hmm. unang una, posible na ba mag-special order ng sabian ngayon? paikot-ikot lang dati ang sagot ng mga taga yupangco e.

+1. same here. i wanted to get an AA 8 and 10 splash tska AAXplosion tapos wala rin. hahaha
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 23, 2009, 09:00:16 AM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on September 23, 2009, 12:39:25 AM
+1. same here. i wanted to get an AA 8 and 10 splash tska AAXplosion tapos wala rin. hahaha

kaya order thru philmusic na lang ang ginagawa ko.. ung pina-order ko na HHX RBDR ang tagal na masyado.. :|
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on September 23, 2009, 01:54:36 PM: Quote from: plep on September 22, 2009, 11:01:19 PM
hmm. unang una, posible na ba mag-special order ng sabian ngayon? paikot-ikot lang dati ang sagot ng mga taga yupangco e.
Try mo sir...Then let see... :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on September 23, 2009, 01:56:14 PM: Quote from: Riff_66603 on September 23, 2009, 09:00:16 AM
kaya order thru philmusic na lang ang ginagawa ko.. ung pina-order ko na HHX RBDR ang tagal na masyado.. :|
Sir nung July pa po merong 21" HHX RBDR sa Yupangco.Tnx :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 23, 2009, 10:31:27 PM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on September 23, 2009, 01:56:14 PM
Sir nung July pa po merong 21" HHX RBDR sa Yupangco.Tnx :-)

hhmm.. daanan ko later.. thanks for the heads up! :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on October 01, 2009, 12:21:39 PM: Ano sir Nabisita mo ba???Thanks :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unnailed on October 01, 2009, 12:53:48 PM: ok po ba ang B8? kasi nag dadalawang isip po ako s stagg sh kasi iba na daw saka na pansin ko po na ang dami na nag bebenta ng stagg cymbals nila...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on October 01, 2009, 02:01:48 PM: Well depende pa rin sa tunog na gusto mo. May mas nagagandahan sa Sabian B8 meron din sa Stagg, so depende talaga sa iyo. Madalas ko marinig ito and mabasa, and its true that when your buying an instrument, choose with your ears not with your eyes. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kino on October 01, 2009, 02:03:52 PM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on October 01, 2009, 02:01:48 PM
Well depende pa rin sa tunog na gusto mo. May mas nagagandahan sa Sabian B8 meron din sa Stagg, so depende talaga sa iyo. Madalas ko marinig ito and mabasa, and its true that when your buying an instrument, choose with your ears not with your eyes. :-)

agree! try to audition both, preference mo na ang magsabi kung ano mas gusto mo. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unnailed on October 01, 2009, 04:17:01 PM: thanks mga bro.

ang ano ko lang yng sh b20 yung b8, b8 lang sya...
ang ano lang may nakita pa ako sa classified na stagg na may butas s gitna kasi nag ka crack daw kaya pina butasan na lang nya para hindi tumuloy...

sakya yung sh cast yung b8 sheet...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: chrism_rivera on October 01, 2009, 04:29:32 PM: May nagsabi na isang endorser ng Sabian na unbreakable daw ang Sabian Cymabls... Comment about this? Meron na ba kayong nakitang Sabian na napunit?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unnailed on October 01, 2009, 04:31:24 PM: may nkita po ako b8 ata yun pero super liit po ng punit... crash ata yn saka super luma na iba ng yng color, color brown na... :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on October 01, 2009, 05:35:22 PM: Quote from: chrism_rivera on October 01, 2009, 04:29:32 PM
May nagsabi na isang endorser ng Sabian na unbreakable daw ang Sabian Cymabls... Comment about this? Meron na ba kayong nakitang Sabian na napunit?
Well its not unbreakable. Of course merong mga Sabian cymbals na napupunit lalo na kung misuse or hindi maayos ang pagaalaga, and sa part ko meron ako nakita (but so minimal). Hindi naman super cymbals and Sabian...But of course hindi naman magtatagal ang Sabian business kung hindi maganda at maayos ang products nila. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: migs_23 on October 01, 2009, 06:32:04 PM: precisely ! :-D depende parin sa user!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kino on October 01, 2009, 06:44:36 PM: Quote from: chrism_rivera on October 01, 2009, 04:29:32 PM
May nagsabi na isang endorser ng Sabian na unbreakable daw ang Sabian Cymabls... Comment about this? Meron na ba kayong nakitang Sabian na napunit?

breakable yan... personally naka sira nako ng (2) Sabian AA medium thin crash (parehong pareho ang location and itsura ng damage), at first di ko mahanap ang culprit, I'm no hard hitter, and super alaga ang cymbals ko. Then read somewhere (forgot the forum, drummerworld ata or sa sabian) na may possibility na sa drumsticks. I tried changing sticks, voila.... my 3rd AA medium thin crash is still my main crash for 4 years na and still counting. :)

so there... for me lahat ng cymbals is breakable, depende sa contributing factors. :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on October 01, 2009, 06:55:22 PM: Quote from: kino on October 01, 2009, 06:44:36 PM
breakable yan... personally naka sira nako ng (2) Sabian AA medium thin crash (parehong pareho ang location and itsura ng damage), at first di ko mahanap ang culprit, I'm no hard hitter, and super alaga ang cymbals ko. Then read somewhere (forgot the forum, drummerworld ata or sa sabian) na may possibility na sa drumsticks. I tried changing sticks, voila.... my 3rd AA medium thin crash is still my main crash for 4 years na and still counting. :)

so there... for me lahat ng cymbals is breakable, depende sa contributing factors. :wink:
Sir ok yun ah. May I know what drumstick you used and drumstick you replaced... :roll:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unnailed on October 01, 2009, 07:48:27 PM: thanks po mga sir...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 01, 2009, 08:12:02 PM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on October 01, 2009, 06:55:22 PM
Sir ok yun ah. May I know what drumstick you used and drumstick you replaced... :roll:

+1 on this.. curious din ako sa sticks na ginamit mo before and after.. :wink:

Quote from: bluesdriver03 on October 01, 2009, 12:21:39 PM
Ano sir Nabisita mo ba???Thanks :-)

@bluesdriver03 - sir, hindi pa ako nakadaan ng yupangco to check the hhx ride.. busy sobra sa work.. alam ko namang ready to assist kayo dyan anytime.. once hindi na ako hectic daan ako.. thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unnailed on October 01, 2009, 08:16:48 PM: sale daw yupangco ngayon huh...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on October 02, 2009, 12:11:55 PM: @bluesdriver03 - sir, hindi pa ako nakadaan ng yupangco to check the hhx ride.. busy sobra sa work.. alam ko namang ready to assist kayo dyan anytime.. once hindi na ako hectic daan ako.. thanks!
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Ok I understand. Kasi nung nabasa ko yung reply mo, pinaready ko na yung RBDR ng HHX eh para makita mo..hahahaha.. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on October 02, 2009, 12:13:53 PM: Quote from: unnailed on October 01, 2009, 08:16:48 PM
sale daw yupangco ngayon huh...
Update kita sir pagfinal na yung date.Thank you :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unnailed on October 02, 2009, 12:55:53 PM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on October 02, 2009, 12:13:53 PM
Update kita sir pagfinal na yung date.Thank you :-)

thank you po sir... ilang % po ba?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on October 05, 2009, 04:16:07 PM: Quote from: unnailed on October 02, 2009, 12:55:53 PM
thank you po sir... ilang % po ba?
Depende sa model sir. Tell me what exact model then PM ko sa iyo..Tnx :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: unnailed on October 05, 2009, 09:17:57 PM: B8 po yung may free na 18
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: magtatertots on October 09, 2009, 12:04:10 AM: hello!

does anyone know how much these cymbals cost?

kahit tancha lang second hand or brand new

21 hhx raw bell dry ride
18 hhx studio crash
18 hhx stage crash

thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kino on October 09, 2009, 01:30:25 AM: Quote from: magtatertots on October 09, 2009, 12:04:10 AM
hello!

does anyone know how much these cymbals cost?

kahit tancha lang second hand or brand new

21 hhx raw bell dry ride
18 hhx studio crash
18 hhx stage crash

thanks!

PM mo si bluesdriver for quotations, he works at yupangco. :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on November 09, 2009, 04:38:40 AM: mga sir, ano po take niyo sa 18" Xs20 Med-Thin Crash?

I recently acquired this cymbal a few weeks back(thanks sir homer!) and so far I'm loving its warm crash sound. sa mga nakagamit na nito, san siya pinakamaayos gamitin? ok lang ba i-crashride tong cymbal na to? natatakot din kasi ako baka masira, hindi naman din po ako heavy hitter pero kinakabahan din po ako. nakakatrauma na yung magcrack ang isang cymbal after mong pag-ipunan ng matagal. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sjon014 on November 09, 2009, 05:06:26 AM: I have this crash! Same size rin.

Tama bro, yung warmth nya ang best asset sonically. It's also rather low in pitch kaya ang gandang complement sa other crashes. I don't like it as a crash ride kasi kulang na kulang sa ping yung bow and edge, pero the bell is usable naman. As for durability, it's one solid crash! Ito ang pinaka-abused sa crashes ko kasi I love timekeeping with it. Very "playable" kasi. :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on November 10, 2009, 12:29:42 AM: wow! thanks for that sir sjon. :-D

oo nga, sa mga nababasang kong reviews, talagang yung warmth ng 18" Xs20 Med-Thin Crash ang palaging pinapraise.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: narz on January 20, 2010, 12:21:35 AM: mga sir ok po ba yung B8 na HH at Ride??
crushable po ba yung B8 na ride?
thanks po
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on January 20, 2010, 01:40:08 AM: Quote from: narz on January 20, 2010, 12:21:35 AM
mga sir ok po ba yung B8 na HH at Ride??
crushable po ba yung B8 na ride?
thanks po

imo, the best starter set out there. :-) okay ang B8's kasi pasok narin to sa mga cymbals na pang-gig. I used them years ago sa isang gig and maayos yung tunog.

HiHat - medyo mataas yung pitch, pero maayos naman yung tunog, depends sayo kung trip mo yung high pitch factor niya.
Ride - meh. mas trip ko Ride ng ZBT (Zildjian equivalent ng Sabian B8's). crashable? yeah, okay lang din, pero not that much.

As for any starter set, pag tumagal magcracrave ka pa ng higher-end models, B8's aren't an exception imho. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: narz on January 30, 2010, 12:41:10 AM: mga sir ok po ba yung sabian solar set?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on January 30, 2010, 12:12:17 PM: Quote from: narz on January 30, 2010, 12:41:10 AM
mga sir ok po ba yung sabian solar set?

nope.. invest a little bit more.. mas ok ung B8 set! :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: narz on January 31, 2010, 02:23:12 PM: thank you sir.ü i already bought 20" b8 ride, though second hand lang. Hehe. Ipon pa konte for b8 HH.Ü
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Kevinbite on February 07, 2010, 01:00:10 PM: Is Sabian AAX or XS20 series better for a metalcore band?
if not any recommendation or suggestion for a better series?
For metal genre and gigs po sana ang 3p qng mkuha im planning
to provide one for my band xe e :oops: :-( :|
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 07, 2010, 01:45:48 PM: Quote from: Kevinbite on February 07, 2010, 01:00:10 PM
Is Sabian AAX or XS20 series better for a metalcore band?
if not any recommendation or suggestion for a better series?
For metal genre and gigs po sana ang 3p qng mkuha im planning
to provide one for my band xe e :oops: :-( :|

go for AA or AAX Metal-X series pati APX lines.. pustahan tayo wala pang isang oras bingi na lahat! sakto sa genre na trip mo! cheers! :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on February 07, 2010, 04:10:04 PM: Quote from: Kevinbite on February 07, 2010, 01:00:10 PM
Is Sabian AAX or XS20 series better for a metalcore band?
if not any recommendation or suggestion for a better series?
For metal genre and gigs po sana ang 3p qng mkuha im planning
to provide one for my band xe e :oops: :-( :|

AAX okay. Xs20 medyo mahihinaan ka. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 08, 2010, 09:00:25 PM: sir alam niyo po ba kung magkno Xs20 med-thin 16'' crash? at san po pwdeng mabili to ng mura?thanks! :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: soul reversal on February 08, 2010, 10:10:58 PM: mga sir, tanong ko lang kung magkano ang isang standard set ng b8? salamat in advance.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 08, 2010, 11:41:30 PM: Quote from: mokie on February 08, 2010, 09:00:25 PM
sir alam niyo po ba kung magkno Xs20 med-thin 16'' crash? at san po pwdeng mabili to ng mura?thanks! :-D

madaming mura sa classifieds! :wink:

Sabian 16" Xs20 Medium Thin Crash 5.5k (brand new) c/o homer
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,73121.0.html

Quote from: soul reversal on February 08, 2010, 10:10:58 PM
mga sir, tanong ko lang kung magkano ang isang standard set ng b8? salamat in advance.

Sabian B8 Set 11k c/o homer (mas mura kesa sa store mismo!)
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,73121.0.html
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 09, 2010, 10:15:44 AM: sir mura na ba yang 5.5k sa Xs20 16'' med thin crash?thanks
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 09, 2010, 01:05:01 PM: Quote from: mokie on February 09, 2010, 10:15:44 AM
sir mura na ba yang 5.5k sa Xs20 16'' med thin crash?thanks

yup! try checking out and comparing items vs the store price! mas mura kasi ung overhead cost ng classifieds seller hindi ganun kalaki compared sa store-based seller.. kung baga, actual item lang ang binabayaran mo sa classifieds seller (kay homer for example) as compared sa store na ang daming gastos na na-incur just to sell the item (personnel/rent/shipping etc) hope it sheds some light! cheers! :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 09, 2010, 01:48:35 PM: thanks sir. i'll buy this item soon.. =D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 16, 2010, 02:15:58 PM: Mga sir,recommend naman po kau ng magandang cymbal set ng sabian..my budget is around 20,000..salamat!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on February 16, 2010, 03:44:27 PM: Quote from: mokie on February 16, 2010, 02:15:58 PM
Mga sir,recommend naman po kau ng magandang cymbal set ng sabian..my budget is around 20,000..salamat!

Meron pa available na XS20 Performance set cymbals w/ free additional 18" medium thin crash. Just advise me if your interested. PM ko sa iyo yung price and my contact numbers...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: uy12umainer on February 18, 2010, 09:07:50 PM: mga sir what do you think about hhx vs dh exo ?? hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 20, 2010, 08:09:11 PM: sir okei ba ang Xs20? im planning to buy a new cymbals.. my options are Paiste PST 5 and Sabian Xs20..
so please give me some of your reviews about Xs20.. thanks and God bless!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 20, 2010, 08:35:59 PM: Quote from: mokie on February 20, 2010, 08:09:11 PM
sir okei ba ang Xs20? im planning to buy a new cymbals.. my options are Paiste PST 5 and Sabian Xs20..
so please give me some of your reviews about Xs20.. thanks and God bless!

XS20 is mid-level B20 quality cymbal.. way better compared to PST5! :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 20, 2010, 08:42:15 PM: thanks sir riff! may plus 18" med thin crash pa ung set..hehehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 20, 2010, 09:03:07 PM: meron po ba sa JB music and Sabian Xs20 10" and 12"? kung wala po saan po pwede makabili nito? and how much? thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 20, 2010, 09:10:01 PM: Quote from: mokie on February 20, 2010, 09:03:07 PM
meron po ba sa JB music and Sabian Xs20 10" and 12"? kung wala po saan po pwede makabili nito? and how much? thanks!

Perfect Pitch meron.. sa may Yupangco meron din.. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 20, 2010, 09:24:52 PM: magkano sir?hindi ko kasi makita yung price sir..
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 20, 2010, 09:45:38 PM: Quote from: mokie on February 20, 2010, 09:24:52 PM
magkano sir?hindi ko kasi makita yung price sir..

PM bluesdriver03 - taga yupangco siya eh.. cheers! :wink:

bluesdriver03
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=32590
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 26, 2010, 08:08:21 PM: ano po ang difference ng natural finish sa brilliant finish ng Xs20?thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 27, 2010, 09:17:39 AM: Quote from: mokie on February 26, 2010, 08:08:21 PM
ano po ang difference ng natural finish sa brilliant finish ng Xs20?thanks!

maliban sa looks, ung tunog niya distinctive.. warm ang natural/satin finish compared sa brilliant finish medyo glassy and clear ang tunog.. :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mokie on February 27, 2010, 09:54:50 PM: thanks sir riff,san po kaya available tong brilliant finish ng Xs20?wala daw po kasi kay sir bluesdriver03..
thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 27, 2010, 10:40:55 PM: Quote from: mokie on February 27, 2010, 09:54:50 PM
thanks sir riff,san po kaya available tong brilliant finish ng Xs20?wala daw po kasi kay sir bluesdriver03..
thanks!

kapag online orders pwede, pero locally tiempuhan lang talaga.. :|
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: onori on March 26, 2010, 12:51:12 PM: Early 80s model Sabian 14" Hand Hammered Regular Hi-Hats.
Super warm and dark. Very washy. :)
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/onorijeff/sabianhandhammeredregularhatsSmall.jpg)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on April 02, 2010, 01:37:43 AM: not sure kung napost na to pero good vid.

feature=player_embedded#at=38
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on April 02, 2010, 05:38:14 AM: Quote from: onori on March 26, 2010, 12:51:12 PM
Early 80s model Sabian 14" Hand Hammered Regular Hi-Hats.
Super warm and dark. Very washy. :)
(http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/ab110/onorijeff/sabianhandhammeredregularhatsSmall.jpg)

wtf! sarap niyan! sound clip naman! :-D
Title: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: rusko7 on April 04, 2010, 09:37:15 AM: Hi! Plano ko pong ibuild ang dream set up ko hopefully this year.

Eto po yung gusto kong cymbal line up:

aax x-celerator hats 14"
aax x-plosion crash 18" x 2
hand hammered raw bell dry ride 21"
aaxtreme chinese 19"
mike portnoy max splash 7"

nahihirapan lang po ako magdecide sa crash kung aax x-plosion or hhx x-plosion ang kukunin ko...sa sound characteristics, gusto ko yung nagka-cut through sa music para di ako matabunan ng guitara...hehe pero parang iba lang kasi ang dating ng dark cymbals sakin(after listening and watching vic mercado)...Laking zildjian ako pero nag iba pananaw ko when I got the chance to try sabian. :-D
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: plep on April 04, 2010, 09:51:58 AM: since dalawa naman plano mong crash, eh di isang hhx at isang aax. mas maganda yun kesa dalawa na parehong model lang kukunin mo.
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: Riff_6603 on April 04, 2010, 11:37:36 AM: I agree with plep; instead of 2 AAXplosions, go with 1 AAXplosion and 1 HHXplosion.. maganda yung blending ng light and dark (AAX and HHX) pareho pang nag-cut through sa music ung Xplosion models so swabe ang projection and blending mo! good luck bro! cheers! :wink:

read through here also:

SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,19315.0.html
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: rusko7 on April 04, 2010, 11:42:34 AM: Maraming Salamat! :-)

Time to start saving! :evil:
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: mambo on April 04, 2010, 12:08:08 PM: Quote from: rusko7 on April 04, 2010, 09:37:15 AM
Hi! Plano ko pong ibuild ang dream set up ko hopefully this year.

Eto po yung gusto kong cymbal line up:

aax x-celerator hats 14"
aax x-plosion crash 18" x 2
hand hammered raw bell dry ride 21"
aaxtreme chinese 19"
mike portnoy max splash 7"
Laking zildjian ako pero nag iba pananaw ko when I got the chance to try sabian. :-D
yeah, its like jesus coming into you life. 8-)

Quote from: Riff_66603 on April 04, 2010, 11:37:36 AM
I agree with plep; instead of 2 AAXplosions, go with 1 AAXplosion and 1 HHXplosion.. maganda yung blending ng light and dark (AAX and HHX) pareho pang nag-cut through sa music ung Xplosion models so swabe ang projection and blending mo! good luck bro! cheers! :wink:

wow.. mukang ok nga yung combo nito ah. thanks! and goodluck sa TS... sana ako rin makaipon na.hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on April 04, 2010, 01:16:47 PM: medyo ot lang sir:

sa yupangco po ba nagbibigay ng discount? i mean kung binigyan ako ng 5 percent sa perfect pitch, ganun din kaya sa yupangco or bigger?

thanks!!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: hen8 on April 04, 2010, 03:21:41 PM: sabian pala gamit ni chris penny ng coheed and cambria. anong brand yung ginagamit niya?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jmdesign on April 04, 2010, 11:54:42 PM: Quote from: mambo on April 04, 2010, 01:16:47 PM
medyo ot lang sir:

sa yupangco po ba nagbibigay ng discount? i mean kung binigyan ako ng 5 percent sa perfect pitch, ganun din kaya sa yupangco or bigger?

thanks!!

If you know PLY... baka may discount. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on April 05, 2010, 12:54:36 AM: Quote from: jmdesign on April 04, 2010, 11:54:42 PM
If you know PLY... baka may discount. :-)

sir ano yung PLY? hehe sorry

thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jmdesign on April 05, 2010, 01:21:37 AM: Quote from: mambo on April 05, 2010, 12:54:36 AM
sir ano yung PLY? hehe sorry

thanks!

The owner si Philip Yupangco.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mambo on April 05, 2010, 01:23:45 AM: Quote from: jmdesign on April 05, 2010, 01:21:37 AM
The owner si Philip Yupangco.
ow.hehe tried calling pero closed sila kanina...dahil siguro easter sunday or wla talga silang pasok ng sunday.

anyways, thanks. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: hen8 on April 05, 2010, 07:27:37 AM: HHX Groove Hats 14"
HHX X-Plosion Crash 18"
HHX X-Plosion Crash 19"
HH Raw Bell Dry Ride 21"

meron ba neto sa yupangco??
if meron magkano tong set na to??

tnx!
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: y2jae21 on April 05, 2010, 09:47:46 AM: meron palang HHXplosion? akala ko HHXtreme lang. yung AAX modern bright, HHX modern dark. kung icocompare sa Zildjian, AAX = A Custom, HHX = K Custom
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on April 05, 2010, 11:12:13 AM: Quote from: hen8 on April 05, 2010, 07:27:37 AM
HHX Groove Hats 14"
HHX X-Plosion Crash 18"
HHX X-Plosion Crash 19"
HH Raw Bell Dry Ride 21"

meron ba neto sa yupangco??
if meron magkano tong set na to??

tnx!

PM bluesdriver03 - taga yupangco siya eh.. cheers! :wink:

bluesdriver03
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=32590
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: straightedgejep on April 05, 2010, 02:27:44 PM: mga sir ano sa line ng sabian HH-HHX ang crashable? yung pwede po talaga pang crash/ride? any suggestions? hindi pa po kasi ako naka try ng sabian na high end. . :(
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on April 05, 2010, 03:14:42 PM: Quote from: straightedgejep on April 05, 2010, 02:27:44 PM
mga sir ano sa line ng sabian HH-HHX ang crashable? yung pwede po talaga pang crash/ride? any suggestions? hindi pa po kasi ako naka try ng sabian na high end. . :(

i'm assuming mga ride ang tinatanong mo? madami.

HH:
Duo Ride
Jazz Ride
Medium Ride
Classic Ride
Vintage Ride

HHX:
Manhattan Jazz Ride
Stage Ride
Groove Ride
Evolution Ride
Legacy Ride
Legacy Heavy Ride

alin diyan ang available dito, hindi ko alam.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: straightedgejep on April 05, 2010, 03:25:51 PM: ok thanks po!! :-D
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: bluesdriver03 on April 10, 2010, 10:44:10 AM: Pagnakaipon ka na Rusko siguradong andito na yung mga requirements mo. Yung HH RBDR may order tayo nun... :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on April 10, 2010, 10:57:38 AM: Quote from: plep on April 05, 2010, 03:14:42 PM
i'm assuming mga ride ang tinatanong mo? madami.

HH:
Duo Ride
Jazz Ride
Medium Ride
Classic Ride
Vintage Ride

HHX:
Manhattan Jazz Ride
Stage Ride
Groove Ride
Evolution Ride
Legacy Ride
Legacy Heavy Ride

alin diyan ang available dito, hindi ko alam.

This year pa lang halos nagrereflenish ang Yupangco ng mga ibang model such as HH series and HHX series and other models since madaming individual stocks remains sa Main Showroom na natira last year (mga minana ko). I suggest, come and visit Yupangco Main Showroom this April Sale to test those cymbals. We gave reputable and decent discounts on selected model. Sabian staffs are willing to assist you...

Meron akong reply dito sa thread na ito about sa mga initial models na padating this year...Pakihananap na lang...Thanks :-)
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: kssael on April 10, 2010, 09:11:55 PM: Quote from: plep on April 04, 2010, 09:51:58 AM
since dalawa naman plano mong crash, eh di isang hhx at isang aax. mas maganda yun kesa dalawa na parehong model lang kukunin mo.
Seconded. HHX for a heavier sound and AAX for a brighter sound and more attack. But I'd prefer one type, but that's me lol.
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: rusko7 on April 12, 2010, 05:03:40 AM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on April 10, 2010, 10:44:10 AM
Pagnakaipon ka na Rusko siguradong andito na yung mga requirements mo. Yung HH RBDR may order tayo nun... :-D

WOW! Thank you po! :-D I sent a PM po sa inyo last week...hingi lang po sana ako price quotation sa cymbals. :wink: :wink:
Title: Re: Help! AAX or HHX?
Post by: triple 6 on April 12, 2010, 06:49:11 AM: AAX...
hehehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: narz on May 11, 2010, 10:44:17 AM: ok po ba ang b8 na china? thanks
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on May 11, 2010, 05:13:58 PM: Quote from: narz on May 11, 2010, 10:44:17 AM
ok po ba ang b8 na china? thanks

yup! pero mas swabe kung APX (B8 Bronze) na china! :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: littlenikki on May 14, 2010, 02:09:17 PM: tanong lang po anong katapat ng SABIAN sa A Custom projection ng zildjian?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on May 14, 2010, 04:40:58 PM: Quote from: littlenikki on May 14, 2010, 02:09:17 PM
tanong lang po anong katapat ng SABIAN sa A Custom projection ng zildjian?

madami sa AAX lines, IMO AAXplosion siguro.. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: littlenikki on May 14, 2010, 05:05:54 PM: Quote from: Riff_66603 on May 14, 2010, 04:40:58 PM
madami sa AAX lines, IMO AAXplosion siguro.. :-)

gusto ko kasi explore ang sabian kasi puros zildjian ang kilala ko eh..

im just comparing the cost for brand new, for example.

18" A Custom Projection is arround 9.5K Brand new sa JB

mag kano po kaya sa
18" AAXplosion? estimated cost?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on May 16, 2010, 09:16:13 AM: Quote from: littlenikki on May 14, 2010, 05:05:54 PM
gusto ko kasi explore ang sabian kasi puros zildjian ang kilala ko eh..

im just comparing the cost for brand new, for example.

18" A Custom Projection is arround 9.5K Brand new sa JB

mag kano po kaya sa
18" AAXplosion? estimated cost?

madaming mas mura sa classifieds (si dreamtheaterfan66f madami!) or PM bluesdriver03 - taga yupangco siya eh.. cheers! :wink:

bluesdriver03
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?action=profile;u=32590
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: littlenikki on May 17, 2010, 05:16:45 PM: medyo hindi ko kinaya ang price nalula ako para sa AAxplosion crash 18" Price: P14,950.00!

compared sa A Custom Projection Crash 18" P9.500.00 hindi ko kaya presyuhan.
bale ang lumalabas halos dalawang A Custom ang mabibili ko sa isang pirasong sabian cymbal.

maganda ang sabian mahal nga lang.
welp wala ako magagawa dun.. for now. no escape ..
back to Zildjian.. :cry:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on May 17, 2010, 05:28:43 PM: Cymbals that arrived here in the Philippines: (May 2010)

B8 Performance set cymbals (still having an 18" crash free)
AA 10" SPLASH
AAX 10" SPLASH BRIGHT
AA 14" MEDIUM HATS
AAX 14" X-CELERATOR HATS BRIGHT
AA 16" MEDIUM THIN CRASH
AA 18" CHINESE
AAXTREME 19" CHINESE BRIGHT
AA 20" MEDIUM RIDE
B8 10" B8 PRO SPLASH
B8 PRO 16" MEDIUM CRASH
B8 PRO 18" MEDIUM CRASH
B8 PRO 18" CHINESE
B8 PRO 20" MEDIUM RIDE
B8 10" SPLASH
B8 14" HATS
B8 18" MEDIUM CRASH
B8 20" RIDE
CYMBAL CLEANER 250ML-8 fl.oz
BLACK NYLON CYMBAL BAG

For inquiries, clarifications, and questions, kindly send me PM or go to Yupangco Showroom or to the nearest Perfect Pitch, Yamaha Stores.

Thank you. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bluesdriver03 on May 26, 2010, 10:27:03 AM: Quote from: bluesdriver03 on May 17, 2010, 05:28:43 PM
Cymbals that arrived here in the Philippines: (May 2010)

B8 Performance set cymbals (still having an 18" crash free)
AA 10" SPLASH
AAX 10" SPLASH BRIGHT
AA 14" MEDIUM HATS
AAX 14" X-CELERATOR HATS BRIGHT
AA 16" MEDIUM THIN CRASH
AA 18" CHINESE
AAXTREME 19" CHINESE BRIGHT
AA 20" MEDIUM RIDE
B8 10" B8 PRO SPLASH
B8 PRO 16" MEDIUM CRASH
B8 PRO 18" MEDIUM CRASH
B8 PRO 18" CHINESE
B8 PRO 20" MEDIUM RIDE
B8 10" SPLASH
B8 14" HATS
B8 18" MEDIUM CRASH
B8 20" RIDE
CYMBAL CLEANER 250ML-8 fl.oz
BLACK NYLON CYMBAL BAG

For inquiries, clarifications, and questions, kindly send me PM or go to Yupangco Showroom or to the nearest Perfect Pitch, Yamaha Stores.

Thank you. :-)

2nd batch of Sabian Models that arrived:

HHX 14" STAGE HATS
HHX 16" STAGE CRASH
HHX 18" CHINESE
HH 18" THIN CHINESE
HHXPLOSION 18" CRASH BRILLIANT FINISH
HHX 20" EVOLUTION RIDE
HH 21" RAW BELL DRY RIDE
B8 18" THIN CRASH
SABIAN STANDARD CYMBAL BAG 22"
SBR PERFORMANCE SET
XS20 10" SPLASH BRILLIANT FINISH
XS20 16" MEDIUM THIN CRASH BRILLIANT FINISH
XS20 18" MEDIUM THIN CRASH BRILLIANT FINISH
XS20 20" MEDIUM RIDE BRILLIANT FINISH

For the price inquiries, kindly PM me for models of your interest. :-)

Thank you...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: migs_23 on September 03, 2010, 09:38:32 PM: Quote from: plep on April 05, 2010, 03:14:42 PM
i'm assuming mga ride ang tinatanong mo? madami.

HH:
Duo Ride
Jazz Ride
Medium Ride
Classic Ride
Vintage Ride

HHX:
Manhattan Jazz Ride
Stage Ride
Groove Ride
Evolution Ride
Legacy Ride
Legacy Heavy Ride

alin diyan ang available dito, hindi ko alam.

i have the manhattan jazz ride!! super crashable!! ;)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on September 03, 2010, 11:33:31 PM: akala ko ito lang:

Quote from: bluesdriver03 on May 17, 2010, 05:28:43 PM
Cymbals that arrived here in the Philippines: (May 2010)
AAXTREME 19" CHINESE

yun pala...

Quote from: bluesdriver03 on May 26, 2010, 10:27:03 AM
HHX 14" STAGE HATS
HHX 16" STAGE CRASH
HHX 18" CHINESE
HH 18" THIN CHINESE
HHXPLOSION 18" CRASH BRILLIANT FINISH
HHX 20" EVOLUTION RIDE
HH 21" RAW BELL DRY RIDE

patayan na! :-o

grabe gusto ko nung hhxplosion :-o
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: migs_23 on September 16, 2010, 07:13:33 AM: any updates ng mga bagong dating? :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: byako21 on September 22, 2010, 07:15:07 PM: mga sir... question lang po....

ano ang masasabi nyo sa xs20 ride??

penge naman po ako ng feedback

good choice po ba eto?
Title: Can you identify this Sabian Ride?
Post by: mauism on September 27, 2010, 02:35:49 PM: hhmmm... i dont really know what ride is this... paki check po...not familiar with sabian..

(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy304/mauism/IMG00187-20100927-0728.jpg)
(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy304/mauism/IMG00186-20100927-0728.jpg)
(http://i802.photobucket.com/albums/yy304/mauism/IMG00185-20100927-0728.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you identify this Sabian Ride?
Post by: inigo on September 27, 2010, 02:42:54 PM: If it's Sabian, it's a B8 pro.
Title: Re: Can you identify this Sabian Ride?
Post by: mauism on September 27, 2010, 03:57:20 PM: oh thanks.... selling it for 3k kasi sa classifieds..=)
Title: Based on 2010 Sabian Catalogue - Wala nang Signature Series?
Post by: sandythedrummer on November 10, 2010, 08:35:23 PM: Napasin ko lang some of them were obsolete and some of them were retained pero na adopt sa ibang series like yung Max Stax/splash is under Vault series. Tapos they used the same term as Zildjian did "designed with _________" term. Unlike before sa signature series na Designed by _____.

Bale mga nawala na series are
Saturation
Explotion
Liquid ride

Forgot yung iba pa.
Sabian experts, we need you!
Title: Re: Based on 2010 Sabian Catalogue - Wala nang Signature Series?
Post by: plep on November 10, 2010, 09:43:19 PM: naabsorb ang lahat ng Signature series sa Vault. redundant kasi yung silbi nung dalawang series. buhay pa naman ang Saturation, Explosion, Fierce, etc., wala nga lang yung signature nung mga artist na tumulong sa pagdesign. check niyo pa dito: http://sabian.com/EN/products/vault.cfm

bottom line is they are the same cymbals, naisip lang ng Sabian na walang saysay na ipaghiwalay pa yung dalawang series na iyon.

edit: and yet hiwalay na series pa rin ang Paragon. labo.
Title: Re: Based on 2010 Sabian Catalogue - Wala nang Signature Series?
Post by: sandythedrummer on November 11, 2010, 11:14:54 AM: Quote from: plep on November 10, 2010, 09:43:19 PM

edit: and yet hiwalay na series pa rin ang Paragon. labo.
Sama mona pati Evolution at Legacy.
Title: Re: Based on 2010 Sabian Catalogue - Wala nang Signature Series?
Post by: pejadanza on November 11, 2010, 11:50:58 AM: uu malabo talaga ang sabian ngayon. hehe! sabian user pa naman ako. i think they need to expand the sound of their chinas. sig ni Weckl nasa HHX. si neil may paragon. tapos ung iba nasa vault. ewan ko lang ko nasa vault rin ung ibang gamit ni bozzio or nasa percussion section. LOL! i saw a tony verdoza hat and crash before that looks cool. purple cymbals that sounded like a digitil hat and cymbals. i dont know if its still available in the vault line. Medyo marami na ring nawalang signiture series.
Title: Re: Based on 2010 Sabian Catalogue - Wala nang Signature Series?
Post by: ushuaia on November 13, 2010, 10:42:51 AM: baka kasi yung paragon,legacy at evolutio eh kumpleto. ride,hats,crash etc. unlike yung iba eh ride lang or crash lang
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jepoyoy on January 16, 2011, 08:49:14 AM: i suggest you look at reviews sa musician's friend at sa youtube video comments. Dun ko nlaman kung gaano karami na asar sa product. Nagbalak ako bumili nyan and i can say, all around ride daw siya. Maganda wash at bell. kakabili ko lng nung xs20 hi hats kahapon. :D sarap
Title: The new Sabian OMNI cymbals
Post by: dreddurius on February 01, 2011, 01:35:42 PM: Recently launched sa NAMM. Lagot na naman tayo nito >.<

(http://www.sabianomni.com/img/aax-cymbal.png)

Quote
Designed with the astonishing Jojo Mayer,
OMNI is a brand new kind of cymbal.
Not a crash, not a ride, it is simply OMNI -
and it's just the kind of innovation you've
come to expect from the Artisans in the
SABIAN VAULT.

METAL SABIAN B20 Bronze
WEIGHT Medium Center, Extra-Thin Edge
SIZE 18", 22"
http://www.sabianomni.com/ (http://www.sabianomni.com/)

From the looks of it, bright to. Parang nakakagigil ang tunog ng bell :)

I tried listening sa Sabian site nila pero kailangan talagang pakinggan ng personal. Still looks good tho. Sana magkaroon nito sa Yupangco soon.
Title: Re: The new Sabian OMNI cymbals
Post by: vhinming on February 01, 2011, 01:50:22 PM: awch! hybrid ng sabian! :-o

bro riff, alamna!
Title: Re: The new Sabian OMNI cymbals
Post by: ~Polyamorous~ on February 01, 2011, 04:02:11 PM: Wow! Ganda naman parang Zildjian Hybrid Series.
High-end ng Sabian sana on stores na ngayon yang item.
Thanks for the post TS. :-)
Title: Re: The new Sabian OMNI cymbals
Post by: dreddurius on February 01, 2011, 05:30:17 PM: Natanong ko na sa Yupangco, sabi na very very likely na dadalin nila dito sa Pinas ang mga GAS inducers na to.
Title: Re: The new Sabian OMNI cymbals
Post by: ~Polyamorous~ on February 02, 2011, 01:18:59 AM: Wow! Galing naman sana mapunta dito sa Cebu gusto ko marinig yung actual sound nya.
Marami ng mga bag-ong cymbals lumalabas ngayon.
Title: Re: The new Sabian OMNI cymbals
Post by: francisnuega on February 03, 2011, 11:36:55 AM: ipon ipon na mga kapatid!
Title: Re: The new Sabian OMNI cymbals
Post by: JDMonline on February 04, 2011, 12:05:48 AM: New Sound depends on san mo pinapalo..Extra Thin Edge and Medium Center..
Title: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: migs_23 on February 07, 2011, 10:51:28 AM: watchasay? :)

http://sabian.com/EN/products/Vault_Holy_China_19_CS1916.cfm (http://sabian.com/EN/products/Vault_Holy_China_19_CS1916.cfm)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7vFzuVF65Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7vFzuVF65Y)
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: inigo on February 07, 2011, 02:47:30 PM: "Holes for sustain"? I thought holes shortened sustain. Interesting. :)
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: food.vulture on February 08, 2011, 01:58:52 AM: agree, holy china is interesting!
however, i'm still out of budget to purchase this one.. so, im planning my old-worn-out zildjian oriental china to be somewhat like the holy china.. coz luckily the crack of my china is in the playing area.. i'll bring it to the shop tomorrow.. :-D
my china was just hung in the wall because it has robert dela cruz's signature.. hehe
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: ~Polyamorous~ on February 08, 2011, 02:11:18 PM: I agree with Sir Inigo. Masarap pakinggan yung Holy China kesa ibang china cymbals. Very unique sound.
Thanks for posting TS.
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: inigo on February 08, 2011, 02:17:26 PM: Sht, I want to hear one live. Ginagas ako ng konti. :D

Galing pala magdrums ni ni Will Ferrell (hahaha).
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: dolfmen on February 08, 2011, 02:21:32 PM: parang latigo! :lol:
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: straightedgejep on February 08, 2011, 11:06:34 PM: Quote from: inigo on February 08, 2011, 02:17:26 PM
Sht, I want to hear one live. Ginagas ako ng konti. :D

Galing pala magdrums ni ni Will Ferrell (hahaha).

haha sabi ko na sobrang hawig talaga eh!
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: cheezemonster08 on February 09, 2011, 05:19:42 AM: epic ad

"its the holy china"
*smiles

:lol:
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: migs_23 on February 11, 2011, 11:28:38 AM: prayers has been answered :)
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: JDMonline on February 11, 2011, 02:15:58 PM: Makpagdasal bka mgdala Perfect Pitch :lol:
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: Riff_6603 on February 11, 2011, 04:15:35 PM: Quote from: JDMonline on February 11, 2011, 02:15:58 PM
Makpagdasal bka mgdala Perfect Pitch :lol:

magpapasok sila bro pati nung omni ride ni jojo mayer.. :-D
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: boytambol on February 13, 2011, 02:59:53 PM: di ko napansin ung holy china sa video.. natawa ako sa ginawa nila. :-D
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: talaga? on February 13, 2011, 09:51:10 PM: Nainlab ako sa tunog. ♥ :lol:
Title: Re: CHAD SMITH's HOLY CHINA
Post by: bugoy on February 15, 2011, 06:03:30 PM: "Actual Cymbal Not Guaranteed to Produce God Rays" <- yan ang nagustuhan ko eh hehehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: cristsuper on June 27, 2011, 12:01:05 PM: this is the most expensive brand of cymbals?I think so...tama ba? :? :? :?

gs2 ko ung new product nila nsa holy china ganda ng tunong umiilaw hahaha joke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

pls avoid text speak - mod
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: DrumWorksIII on June 27, 2011, 01:39:26 PM: Quote from: cristsuper on June 27, 2011, 12:01:05 PM
this is the most expensive brand of cymbals?I think so...tama ba? :? :? :?

gs2 ko ung new product nila nsa holy china ganda ng tunong umiilaw hahaha joke :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Not really the most expensive bro. It depends on the Particular model na hinahanap mo, may mga pantapat din kasi yung ibang cymbal company sa mga kalaban nilang company kaya minsan di nagkakalayo yung mga price range nila depende sa model na gusto mo. =)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: andreau21 on July 03, 2011, 07:54:03 PM: hi can someone please help me? im new to this forum.
i would like to know if someone can comment on Sabian XS20s and the new B8 Pro?

1. Price
2. Where can i buy? Do any of you guys sell?
3. Experience with these cymbals.

I'd really really appreciate your useful answers. Thanks! :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: edisonmooch on July 04, 2011, 03:12:05 PM: Quote from: andreau21 on July 03, 2011, 07:54:03 PM
hi can someone please help me? im new to this forum.
i would like to know if someone can comment on Sabian XS20s and the new B8 Pro?

1. Price
2. Where can i buy? Do any of you guys sell?
3. Experience with these cymbals.

I'd really really appreciate your useful answers. Thanks! :-)

andreau:try checking perfect pitch/yamaha sa mga malls. or you can check their website http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=17&Itemid=53&TreeId=23 (http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=17&Itemid=53&TreeId=23)

edison :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 04, 2011, 05:53:48 PM: Quote from: andreau21 on July 03, 2011, 07:54:03 PM
hi can someone please help me? im new to this forum.
i would like to know if someone can comment on Sabian XS20s and the new B8 Pro?

1. Price
2. Where can i buy? Do any of you guys sell?
3. Experience with these cymbals.

I'd really really appreciate your useful answers. Thanks! :-)

if i were you, id rather buy 2nd hand SABIAN cast cymbals AA, AAX, HH, HHX, Vault, Paragon. Durable and better sounding. try to visit sabian.com.(unless you really are after the sound of XS20s and B8 Pros) i use to have a B8 Pro performance set then i shifted to AAXs, HHXs after sometime.
a little review on the B8 Pro cymbals that i use to have:
medium hats 14" = CLOSED: it had the standard high crisp sound but i find the sound too thin. (i wanted a thicker "chick" and darker sound).
SLIGHTLY OPENED: too ringy for me. i didn't find the "hiss" sound projecting enough. (maybe this was due to the material that was used - too much brass i think)
SQUELCHING & OPEN: the squelch sound was moderately appealing but the "ringy" overtone is still there.
medium crash 16" = again, it lacked projection and i didn't like the "high ringy" sound in it.
Medium ride 20" = this is a modest ride cymbal. all the areas respond well and the "ringy" sound in its material is quite controlled when played with the tip. not so pingy and the bell sound is not too loud and thick. wash riding this cymbal will let out the "ringy" sound in its material. if you are looking for a darker and warmer cymbal, you might not like this.
Verdict: there is a funny ring sound in the B8 Pro that i didn't like.(i really don't know if it has something to do with the B8 Bronze)

if i were to choose between ZBTs and B8 Pro, i'd still choose B8 Pros
and one thing, stay away from B8, B8 Pro china cymbals, the funny "ringy" sound is just too dominant in those cymbals. it sounds kinda annoying. hehe!

(it is your ears that hear your cymbal so its best to check out these cymbals personally. goodluck in finding your sound!)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: andreau21 on July 06, 2011, 07:31:53 AM: Thanks you guys! (: i appreciate it.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 20, 2011, 03:39:22 PM: guys, im looking in to the RBDR. Torn between AA RBDR or HHX RBDR. any ideas? ung AA is around 15k ung HHX 19k sa Perfect Pitch.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 20, 2011, 04:55:35 PM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 20, 2011, 03:39:22 PM
guys, im looking in to the RBDR. Torn between AA RBDR or HHX RBDR. any ideas? ung AA is around 15k ung HHX 19k sa Perfect Pitch.

anong sound ba habol mo? kung bright, go with the AA, kung dark go with the HHX. If I were you, I'd go with the HHX, pasok sa setup mo bro. :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 20, 2011, 11:14:10 PM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on July 20, 2011, 04:55:35 PM
anong sound ba habol mo? kung bright, go with the AA, kung dark go with the HHX. If I were you, I'd go with the HHX, pasok sa setup mo bro. :wink:

thank you master Riff! concern ko lang talaga sa HHX baka masyadong lulubog dahil sa sobrang dark niya (according to some reviews lang na nabasa ko) . hehe! sad lang kasi pag tawag ko ulit sa cebu PP kanina, di pa sila sure kung may stock pa nung HHX RBDR! waaaaaahhhh!!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: zachki on July 21, 2011, 06:24:00 AM: grabe yung holy china! nakakagas, mahilig pa naman ako sa chinas hehe! oohhh tuksooo,, demmit~ layuan mo ako!~
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 21, 2011, 02:48:21 PM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 20, 2011, 11:14:10 PM
thank you master Riff! concern ko lang talaga sa HHX baka masyadong lulubog dahil sa sobrang dark niya (according to some reviews lang na nabasa ko) . hehe! sad lang kasi pag tawag ko ulit sa cebu PP kanina, di pa sila sure kung may stock pa nung HHX RBDR! waaaaaahhhh!!

mas maganda yung projection ng HHX compared sa HH RBDR so hindi ma-drown yung sound ng HHX sa setup mo. kung gusto mo ng uber-bright naman go with the AA RBDR; closest sound nun is AA rock ride pero warm yung bell. :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 21, 2011, 05:15:10 PM: Mga kapwa Sabian users..

Recommend me a ride with good/great bell/ping, stick definition and wash (i do wash riding on my ride but i don't crash my ride.)..gamit ko kasi AAX stage ride eh bitin ako sa bell..lack of definition/character sa bell. Other than that wala na ako reklamo. Kung naayos lang sana ang bell nya..

Any suggestion sa ride except sa HHX Evo?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 21, 2011, 07:07:06 PM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on July 21, 2011, 02:48:21 PM
mas maganda yung projection ng HHX compared sa HH RBDR so hindi ma-drown yung sound ng HHX sa setup mo. kung gusto mo ng uber-bright naman go with the AA RBDR; closest sound nun is AA rock ride pero warm yung bell. :-)

talagang na convince mo ako sa HHX master riff. hehehe! LF na nga ako HHX RBDR at HHX Groove Ride. maganda rin kasi ang wash at crashable talaga ung tunog ng groove ride. maraming salamat.

@ incubus_boy : yang RBDR killer ride yan! baka gusto mo rin mag hanap nyan. hehe!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 22, 2011, 04:57:26 AM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on July 21, 2011, 05:15:10 PM
Mga kapwa Sabian users..

Recommend me a ride with good/great bell/ping, stick definition and wash (i do wash riding on my ride but i don't crash my ride.)..gamit ko kasi AAX stage ride eh bitin ako sa bell..lack of definition/character sa bell. Other than that wala na ako reklamo. Kung naayos lang sana ang bell nya..

Any suggestion sa ride except sa HHX Evo?

HHX Groove Ride. trust me.:wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: revelaxionz09 on July 22, 2011, 10:37:54 AM: wala na po bang lumalabas na sabian AA medium-heavy weight na ride? alin ang mas maganda ang stick definition yung medium lang ba or yung medium-heavy? thanks
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 22, 2011, 10:58:33 AM: Quote from: revelaxionz09 on July 22, 2011, 10:37:54 AM
wala na po bang lumalabas na sabian AA medium-heavy weight na ride? alin ang mas maganda ang stick definition yung medium lang ba or yung medium-heavy? thanks

kung along the lines of AA hanap mo, maganda in particular yung AA Rock Ride 21", current gig ride ko yun. swabe ang projection, wash, ping and bell. versatile pa kaya pwedeng pang-iba't ibang genre. :-)

Kung HHX naman, go with the HHX groove ride. yung ang pinakaswabeng ride na nahiram ko at current GAS ko. :-D

NOTE: may subtle difference sa sound overall ang 21" vs 20" na AA Rock Ride IMO kaya specific ako sa size na nasabi ko. :wink:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: revelaxionz09 on July 22, 2011, 11:30:52 AM: OK sir nice insights gonna keep that in mind. thanks! :-)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 22, 2011, 04:10:31 PM: AA rock ride din yung isang gusto kong mapakinggan pero di ako sure kung maganda sa pandinig ko kapag nagwash riding na ako sa kanya..

HHX Groove ride is one of the things that I consider also.. Isa sa pag-gagamitan ko yung genre ni Daniel Adair and I checked he is using groove ride kaya naging isa yung sa mga tinitingnan ko..Eto din ba yung ride nya nung nasa 3 doors down pa sya?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 23, 2011, 01:05:23 PM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on July 22, 2011, 04:10:31 PM
HHX Groove ride is one of the things that I consider also.. Isa sa pag-gagamitan ko yung genre ni Daniel Adair and I checked he is using groove ride kaya naging isa yung sa mga tinitingnan ko..Eto din ba yung ride nya nung nasa 3 doors down pa sya?

yup!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 25, 2011, 03:22:22 PM: Salamat sir Riff..!

Ang problema ko pang isa...ang mahal ng mga HHX lolz haha kaya AAX/AA series ang malamang mapuntahan ko..tsk tsk hirap magipon eh..
Title: Sabian SR2 Cymbal Line
Post by: blindedfox on November 28, 2011, 01:02:48 PM: Have you guys seen this series of Sabian cymbals? Nakita ko lang siya sa site nila kanina lang and I'm wondering if it is available here sa atin? By the way they said what the line is about, parang second-hand na brand new ang dating.

Any ideas guys?
Title: Re: Sabian SR2 Cymbal Line
Post by: muziquero on November 28, 2011, 01:51:18 PM: Eto mga yun sir..
Wala ata available nito sa tin ehh..

"The Sabian SR2 Series is a new concept for a cymbal series. These cymbals are recycled used/returned/refurbished product that Sabian received back through inventory swaps, etc, and has been factory refurbished. All of the cymbals are cast product, but there is no differentiation by series at all, so any cymbal could have started as an AA, AAX, HH, HHX, etc. The Sabian SR2 Series will only be designated by size and weight – For example the 16" SR2 cymbals will be labeled as 16” SR2 Thin, 16” SR2 Medium, or 16” SR2 Heavy."
Title: Re: Sabian SR2 Cymbal Line
Post by: blindedfox on November 28, 2011, 02:07:55 PM: Mukha nga eh. Sayang naman. For sure it will be a hit here sa atin. Siyempre people would love cast cymbals at USED cymbal prices (as Sabian says). Bago lang kaya ito boss? Or sadyang ngayon ko lang nalaman? Hehe.
Title: Re: Sabian SR2 Cymbal Line
Post by: pejadanza on November 29, 2011, 11:08:46 PM: launched ito in the US mga 2009 and it was a test in the market. i don't know if nag succeed ba or available na worldwide ung SR2s. im sure they will still sound good considering they are all cast cymbals made by sabian.
Title: Re: Sabian SR2 Cymbal Line
Post by: dolfmen on November 30, 2011, 02:25:07 PM: naka kita na ko nito, yung mga stamps nya at lathing wala na, pero chambahan nalang ito pero ok sya kung puedeng pumili kasi mataas na mga line ng sabian yan, mga AA pataas yung mga models.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: clynt09 on December 22, 2011, 09:16:57 PM: Ask ko lang mga Idol. Preferred ba bumili ng 2nd hand if ever? Planning to buy a set xs20's. Kaso masyadong mahal kapag cash. Credit card lang. Eh ang main prob. wala pang mahiraman ng credit card. >.< Thank you mga idol :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on December 23, 2011, 03:59:10 AM: Quote from: clynt09 on December 22, 2011, 09:16:57 PM
Ask ko lang mga Idol. Preferred ba bumili ng 2nd hand if ever? Planning to buy a set xs20's. Kaso masyadong mahal kapag cash. Credit card lang. Eh ang main prob. wala pang mahiraman ng credit card. >.< Thank you mga idol :)

Ofcourse, malaki talaga matitipid mo if 2nd hand na cymbals bibilhin mo. But make sure na walang damages like cracks/dents/keyholes (or if you're particular with the faded logos). Tyaga tyaga lang sa classified ads natin marami dyan. Napapabili lang ako ng brand new (usually by order sa US) kapag yung particular model na hinahanap ko ay hindi available dito sa pinas, or if ever man meron, sobrang kakaunti lang.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: dreddurius on December 23, 2011, 01:20:27 PM: Quote from: clynt09 on December 22, 2011, 09:16:57 PM
Ask ko lang mga Idol. Preferred ba bumili ng 2nd hand if ever? Planning to buy a set xs20's. Kaso masyadong mahal kapag cash. Credit card lang. Eh ang main prob. wala pang mahiraman ng credit card. >.< Thank you mga idol :)

Mas okey ang 2nd hand basta ma-alaga ang unang owner nito. Check mo na din kung may warping... ilapat mo sa flat surface tapos silipin mo kung pantay pa sya.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: clynt09 on December 23, 2011, 03:24:02 PM: Salamat mga sir! :) Idol. Gusto ko kasi xs20 kaso wala ako money. So unti unti. Planning to sell my guns pak. :( HAHA. :) Thanks mga idol
Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: mr.HTML on January 17, 2012, 09:57:49 PM: mga sir meron bang thread dito to know the exact details about Sabian B8 kung Ok ba yung quality and sound nito? PLEASE PM me thanks
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: dreddurius on February 23, 2012, 02:22:55 PM: Any chance kaya na madadala ng Yupancgo dito ang 4 winning pies nung 2012 Cymbalvote? :cry:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on February 23, 2012, 06:15:40 PM: msg ako sa yupangco. may coming pies daw eh march last time naka usap ko mgr sa cebu. gusto ko nung compression hats kaso hindi naka lusot. try natin umorder nun!! yeah!!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: dreendroid on March 06, 2012, 08:14:15 PM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6t6OV8nU8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6t6OV8nU8M)

Medyo naawa lang ako sa cymbals. haha
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: BOY_ORCS on March 23, 2012, 08:25:45 AM: Mga Guys nakasale ang Yupangco ngayon for 30% off On All Sabian Cymbals Check nyo !!! :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: cinco05 on March 26, 2012, 01:29:39 PM: Quote from: BOY_ORCS on March 23, 2012, 08:25:45 AM
Mga Guys nakasale ang Yupangco ngayon for 30% off On All Sabian Cymbals Check nyo !!! :)

saan yan tol?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: MarkBarrera on March 29, 2012, 10:14:21 AM: Quote from: BOY_ORCS on March 23, 2012, 08:25:45 AM
Mga Guys nakasale ang Yupangco ngayon for 30% off On All Sabian Cymbals Check nyo !!! :)

Maraming salamat pre! Dahil sayo nakabili na ko ng first cymbals ko pangreplace sa fernando stocks. :))
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: drummaniac on March 29, 2012, 04:57:53 PM: sirs! help naman. Bibili kasi ako ng sabian set. ano ba ang mas maganda? xs20 na performance set or yung mix set nila na B8 pro hats and ride at xs20 na crashes? thanks...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: MarkBarrera on March 31, 2012, 06:20:36 PM: Quote from: drummaniac on March 29, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
sirs! help naman. Bibili kasi ako ng sabian set. ano ba ang mas maganda? xs20 na performance set or yung mix set nila na B8 pro hats and ride at xs20 na crashes? thanks...

pre bili ka na lang ng b8 o b8 pro. Sabi sakin nung tindero dun pang malaking lugar daw yung xs20 kaya naging dead yung sound. mas maganda tunog ng b8 at b8 pros.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on April 17, 2012, 05:14:46 AM: Quote from: drummaniac on March 29, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
sirs! help naman. Bibili kasi ako ng sabian set. ano ba ang mas maganda? xs20 na performance set or yung mix set nila na B8 pro hats and ride at xs20 na crashes? thanks...

it depends on how you'll use it bro. some cymbals are meant for recording and some for live playing. But for starters, b8's are a good score.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on April 18, 2012, 12:18:04 AM: Quote from: drummaniac on March 29, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
sirs! help naman. Bibili kasi ako ng sabian set. ano ba ang mas maganda? xs20 na performance set or yung mix set nila na B8 pro hats and ride at xs20 na crashes? thanks...

ung B8pro hats and Ride ok naman. ung b8 crash mukhang ang daming ring sound at walang projection. para maka tipid, get b8pro hats and ride then XS20 crash. or mas ok hanap ka ng good deal na AAX crash. if church setting, id recommend AAX Studio Crash 16" or AAX Dark Crash 16". para hindi maxado mag overpower sa praise&worship niyo. outside tugtugan AAX Stage and AAX xplosion. kung gusto mo traditional sounding na bright get the AA sabians.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on June 25, 2012, 09:01:33 AM: mga sir recomend nyo ba ang sabian b8 pro hihat? nalilito kasi ako d ko pa na rinig actual. im choosing between sabian b8pro hats vs istanbul samatya hats.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on June 25, 2012, 09:08:00 AM: Compared to other hats, yung bell ng b8pro, medjo flat.
And if you're gonna use it for recording, you have to be careful sa mic placement, since yung b8pro na hats. Maririnig mo tlga na may air habang pinapalo mo kung open hats sya.

Pero kung live setting, oks sya. Medjo bright at heavy.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on June 25, 2012, 09:22:16 AM: live kasi sa church ko gamitin.so marecomend mo ang b8 pro hi hats? kasi in an hour ma order ako ng b8pro hi hat at isan xs20 crash. another thing alin mas maganda ang b8 traditional or b8 pro brilliant finish?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on June 25, 2012, 09:26:56 AM: I can recommend it bro. Oks yung sa live setting, kung sa finish naman, pag traditional kasi para syang yung regular b8, bronze. Pag brilliant yun na yung mga nsa catalog na sabian na bago. Yung kakaiba na yung logo.

Feel free to choose bro. Or if you're not in a hurry, let's wait for another forumer that can answer you're question. Para atleast my choices ka pa rin.

Goodluck.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on June 25, 2012, 09:28:59 AM: salamat bro. any idea about pinagkaiba ng sound ng brilliant compare as traditional?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on June 25, 2012, 11:46:41 AM: Sorry bro, di ko pa ntry yung brilliant e. Pero you can check youtube, meron naman dun samples. Just use a good headphones. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on June 25, 2012, 11:46:45 AM: Quote from: ghoulstats on June 25, 2012, 09:28:59 AM
salamat bro. any idea about pinagkaiba ng sound ng brilliant compare as traditional?

mas bright sounding ang brilliant finish whereas ang traditional finish warm sounding. if gusto mo ng cutting sound, meaning lulutang siya above everything else (given na fair yung level ng volume ng accompanying instruments), go for brilliant finishes. kung gusto mo naman ng blend (at par lang yung sound sa accompanying instruments), then go for traditional finishes. AFAIK though, ang B8 kahit ano finish niyan "cut" pa din ang sound niya due to the material (B8 bronze). yung finish lang ang mag-decide ng volume niya in a way. cheers! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on June 25, 2012, 11:59:26 AM: maraming salamat po il go nalng with brilliant finish thnx po sa info
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: drummercliff on June 28, 2012, 02:38:49 PM: Kelan kaya sale ng sabian cymbals sa yupangco? Im looking forward to buy sabian brand (crash cymbals).

Thanks
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on June 28, 2012, 03:25:05 PM: No news pa e. Katabi lang ng office namen dito yung showroom.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: godisjudge on June 28, 2012, 06:40:01 PM: Usually July and October sale ng Yupangco diba? Aching for new Sabians. :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: telramvuli on July 01, 2012, 12:08:51 PM: meron bang nakakaalam dito kung kaninong signature yung nasa ilalim ng handhammered dark hats? thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 01, 2012, 12:19:36 PM: Quote from: telramvuli on July 01, 2012, 12:08:51 PM
meron bang nakakaalam dito kung kaninong signature yung nasa ilalim ng handhammered dark hats? thanks!

signature nung artisan na nag hand hammered nyan.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: drummercliff on July 02, 2012, 10:36:01 AM: Mga master. Ano po magandang combination ng two crash preferably sabian brand? Altenative rock ang genre ng music ko. Thanks you for the suggestions!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 02, 2012, 11:02:25 AM: Quote from: drummercliff on July 02, 2012, 10:36:01 AM
Mga master. Ano po magandang combination ng two crash preferably sabian brand? Altenative rock ang genre ng music ko. Thanks you for the suggestions!

AAXplosion 18" - HHXplosion 18", AAX Stage Crash 18" - HHX Stage Crash 18", AA Medium Thin Crash 16" - El Sabor Crash 18", HH Duo Crash 18"- HHXtreme Crash 18".. the list goes on. mahalaga may mix ka ng 1 cut at 1 blend para versatile yung combo mo. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Lauch on July 03, 2012, 11:22:12 AM: Question: Are both HHX and AAX Stage rides durable for crash riding? I'm seriously considering getting either one of them to pair up with my 18" A custom Medium crash and 14" Avedis New Beat Hi Hats. I'm finding a replacement for my old 20" Avedis Medium Ride since may punit na siya along the grooves.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 03, 2012, 06:52:27 PM: Quote from: Lauch on July 03, 2012, 11:22:12 AM
Question: Are both HHX and AAX Stage rides durable for crash riding? I'm seriously considering getting either one of them to pair up with my 18" A custom Medium crash and 14" Avedis New Beat Hi Hats. I'm finding a replacement for my old 20" Avedis Medium Ride since may punit na siya along the grooves.

Durable? yes. soundwise though, mas ok ang HHX Stage. masyadong makalansing at ma-overtone masyado ang AAX Stage Ride IMO. If i were you though, I'd go for AA's instead. pinakamasarap ang AA ride na nasa medium weight for crash riding based on my experience.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 03, 2012, 07:08:17 PM: ano kayang SABIAN Ride pinka malapit tumunog sa K Ride 20"? hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 03, 2012, 07:17:54 PM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 03, 2012, 07:08:17 PM
ano kayang SABIAN Ride pinka malapit tumunog sa K Ride 20"? hehe

yung legacy lines ni dave weckl.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 03, 2012, 07:21:18 PM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on July 03, 2012, 07:17:54 PM
yung legacy lines ni dave weckl.

NICE try ko. hehehe!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 03, 2012, 07:34:30 PM: Share ko lang po short sample ng recorded original song ng band ko. Sa bahay lang kaya pagpasensyahan nyo na kung panget. Pasok pa din naman dito kasi Sabian cymbals gamit ko dyan. Recorded using two Samson R21s as overheads and 1 Samson R21 as bass drum mic. Halatang walang budget hehe...

8" AAX Splash
10" AAX Splash
14" Xs20 Medium Hats
18" Xs20 Medium Thin Crash
18" AA Metal-X Crash
17" AAX-treme China
20" AAX Stage Ride Traditional
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on July 03, 2012, 09:02:09 PM: Sabian endorser.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 04, 2012, 01:22:38 AM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on July 03, 2012, 07:17:54 PM
yung legacy lines ni dave weckl.

nakinig ako sa my cymbal.com at mukhang mas malapit ung HHX Evolution Ride 20" kesa HHX Legacy 20" sa K Ride 20" hehe. and hindi nga consistent ang HHX dahil sa random hammering. meron ding K Ride na medyo bright.

Sabian Thread to. post ko lang mga plato.
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Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 04, 2012, 02:32:41 AM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 04, 2012, 01:22:38 AM
nakinig ako sa my cymbal.com at mukhang mas malapit ung HHX Evolution Ride 20" kesa HHX Legacy 20" sa K Ride 20" hehe. and hindi nga consistent ang HHX dahil sa random hammering. meron ding K Ride na medyo bright.

+1 sa inconsistencies. that's what makes them pies "special"! :-D

Quote from: jake zulueta on July 03, 2012, 09:02:09 PM
Sabian endorser.

dapat kay pejadanza yang title na yan! :wave:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 04, 2012, 09:29:50 AM: dami ng cymbals na yan haha... Arbor ko na yang HHX O-zone pwde? Yan na lang kulang ko sa set ko hehe.. :wave: loko lang ser...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 05, 2012, 09:20:08 PM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on July 04, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
[ice cream] dami ng cymbals na yan haha... Arbor ko na yang HHX O-zone pwde? Yan na lang kulang ko sa set ko hehe.. :wave: loko lang ser...

sir may HHX Ozone dito oh. http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=194496.0

very good sounding cymbals. di ka mag sisi nyan
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 12:44:01 AM: mga sir pde ask? planning to buy a sabian xs20 "18 crash ask po ako if pde ba itong gawin crash ride? ano po ba pinag kaiba ng crash/ride 18" sa 18" crash? meron ba difference. la pa kasi akong ride mejo tight budget plan ko buy sabian xs20 18" crash at gawing crash/ride muna pde ba un?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 06, 2012, 02:38:43 AM: Quote from: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 12:44:01 AM
mga sir pde ask? planning to buy a sabian xs20 "18 crash ask po ako if pde ba itong gawin crash ride? ano po ba pinag kaiba ng crash/ride 18" sa 18" crash? meron ba difference. la pa kasi akong ride mejo tight budget plan ko buy sabian xs20 18" crash at gawing crash/ride muna pde ba un?

magkaiba sila when it comes to the cymbal profile pati sa bell. If I were you, ipon ka muna para sulit na mabili mo na gamit or bili ka muna ng low end rides na pasok naman sa tugtugan like B8's etc.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 08:49:01 AM: okie po.kasi play ko sa church mostly mga hillsong. my offer sakin 18" in avedis crash/ride okie ba un pang ride? or unahin ko sabian b8 pro ride? then crash 18"? do you advice to get mga crash/ride?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 06, 2012, 09:34:31 AM: Quote from: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 08:49:01 AM
okie po.kasi play ko sa church mostly mga hillsong. my offer sakin 18" in avedis crash/ride okie ba un pang ride? or unahin ko sabian b8 pro ride? then crash 18"? do you advice to get mga crash/ride?

hmm.. since sabian thread ito dapat sabian bilhin mo lol! kidding aside, bitin ang crash ride vs actual ride cymbals. kung makakapaghintay ka pa ng konti, might as well save up some more for better gears kesa bilhin mo now then upgrade eventually. realistically speaking, hindi ganun kadali magspend ng oras, panahon, effort at pera sa pag-upgrade ng gears.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 06, 2012, 10:51:08 AM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 05, 2012, 09:20:08 PM
sir may HHX Ozone dito oh. http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=194496.0

very good sounding cymbals. di ka mag sisi nyan

Indeed, kaso wala pa pera haha...Patesting naman ng HHX O-zone.. :wave:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 06, 2012, 11:05:41 AM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on July 06, 2012, 10:51:08 AM
Indeed, kaso wala pa pera haha...Patesting naman ng HHX O-zone.. :wave:

walang problema sana un bro kaso andito ako sa negros oriental visayas eh. hehe. bili ka na HHX Ozone. ganda ng tunog.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 06, 2012, 11:08:44 AM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 06, 2012, 11:05:41 AM
walang problema sana un bro kaso andito ako sa negros oriental visayas eh. hehe. bili ka na HHX Ozone. ganda ng tunog.

Boom...Yun lang dun lang ako nalungkot... :oops: haha magkakaroon din tayo nyan. Natry mo nang stack yung aaxtreme china mo on top of it?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 06, 2012, 12:30:07 PM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on July 06, 2012, 11:08:44 AM
Boom...Yun lang dun lang ako nalungkot... :oops: haha magkakaroon din tayo nyan. Natry mo nang stack yung aaxtreme china mo on top of it?

bro binenta ko na AAXtreme china ko. ahaha. pero pede ko e test kasi ka tropa lang din binentahan ko nun. 4.5k lang. hehe. ang current stack ko is APX Ozone 16 bottom/AAX Ozone Splash 12 bottom + inverted AA China Splash 10" at saka Max Splash 10"bottom/AAX Ozone 10" top + inverted Max Splash 7". il try it out soon tapos post ko reviews. else i can try HHX Ozone 18 bottom/ AAX Xtreme china 15" bottom.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 01:01:11 PM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on July 06, 2012, 09:34:31 AM
hmm.. since sabian thread ito dapat sabian bilhin mo lol! kidding aside, bitin ang crash ride vs actual ride cymbals. kung makakapaghintay ka pa ng konti, might as well save up some more for better gears kesa bilhin mo now then upgrade eventually. realistically speaking, hindi ganun kadali magspend ng oras, panahon, effort at pera sa pag-upgrade ng gears.
hhehehe un nga sir. yung b8 pro ride ok naba un?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 06, 2012, 02:25:17 PM: Quote from: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 01:01:11 PM
hhehehe un nga sir. yung b8 pro ride ok naba un?

pa age mu ung b8 pro ride lalo gaganda tunog!!!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 02:42:24 PM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 06, 2012, 02:25:17 PM
pa age mu ung b8 pro ride lalo gaganda tunog!!!
cge try ko yng b8 pro ride
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 06, 2012, 02:50:18 PM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 06, 2012, 02:25:17 PM
pa age mu ung b8 pro ride lalo gaganda tunog!!!

Lahat naman yata ng naturally-aged cymbals gumaganda ang tunog..I remember may experiment dati si Sabian na 100 Vault artisan rides naturally aged in an accelerated manner by burying the cymbals six feet deep sa loob ng 8 months.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: telramvuli on July 06, 2012, 02:57:52 PM: meron bang nakakaalam dito kung sinong drummer yung may signature sa likod ng top and bottom old handhammered dark hats? i know signature model iyon but nung binili ko sa yupangco ay di nila alam kung sino daw yung nakapirma. thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on July 06, 2012, 04:17:25 PM: Quote from: telramvuli on July 06, 2012, 02:57:52 PM
meron bang nakakaalam dito kung sinong drummer yung may signature sa likod ng top and bottom old handhammered dark hats? i know signature model iyon but nung binili ko sa yupangco ay di nila alam kung sino daw yung nakapirma. thanks!

Hindi ba signature nung artisan yan? Yung naghammer sa cymbal?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 08:00:07 PM: ask lng yung sabian xs20 18" medium thin crash hindi un pasok sa category ng crash/ride? iba ba talga pagka gawa ng crash/ride? or lahat ng 18" crash/ride un?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on July 06, 2012, 09:43:00 PM: Quote from: telramvuli on July 06, 2012, 02:57:52 PM
meron bang nakakaalam dito kung sinong drummer yung may signature sa likod ng top and bottom old handhammered dark hats? i know signature model iyon but nung binili ko sa yupangco ay di nila alam kung sino daw yung nakapirma. thanks!

Quote from: incubus_boy08 on July 06, 2012, 04:17:25 PM
Hindi ba signature nung artisan yan? Yung naghammer sa cymbal?

that's correct. signature sa loob ng bell to be exact - it's armenian for "sabian"

Quote from: ghoulstats on July 06, 2012, 08:00:07 PM
ask lng yung sabian xs20 18" medium thin crash hindi un pasok sa category ng crash/ride? iba ba talga pagka gawa ng crash/ride? or lahat ng 18" crash/ride un?

hindi siya pasok sa category ng crash ride. ang crash ride iba ang cymbal profile at ang bell generally. other terms come into play which varies per model like lathing style, hammering etc.. PM'd you a recommendation.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: godisjudge on July 09, 2012, 12:45:51 PM: Just sharing these hats :drool: and the reason why
I've been aching back to switch back to Sabian again.
I market kaya ng Yupangco/PP ito sa atin?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 09, 2012, 05:50:45 PM: Quote from: godisjudge on July 09, 2012, 12:45:51 PM

Just sharing these hats :drool: and the reason why
I've been aching back to switch back to Sabian again.
I market kaya ng Yupangco/PP ito sa atin?

i think import ni bro Reims fastest mu ma kuha to. hehe!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: godisjudge on July 12, 2012, 10:19:34 AM: Quote from: pejadanza on July 09, 2012, 05:50:45 PM
i think import ni bro Reims fastest mu ma kuha to. hehe!

Mukha nga, Di ka ba kuha neto bro? Test drive mo muna for feedback.hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: godisjudge on July 13, 2012, 08:34:19 PM: Hi Sabian users.

Just wanna ask if whats's the Sabian counterpart or closest to the sound of K custom Hybrid hats?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on July 14, 2012, 12:49:41 AM: Quote from: godisjudge on July 12, 2012, 10:19:34 AM
Mukha nga, Di ka ba kuha neto bro? Test drive mo muna for feedback.hehe

mahal pa maxado for the hype sir. hehe. 20k! pfffTTT!!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: godisjudge on July 16, 2012, 04:50:29 PM: :-D Mukhang abang abang muna. Kaya pa naman tiisin before the switch.hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: drummercliff on July 17, 2012, 10:23:22 AM: I just bought my first ever cymbal at yupangco. 16"hhx evolution crash. and I'm loving it. :-D
BTW. October daw ata sale sa yupangco sabi ng sales sa yupangco. Ipon ulit.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on September 07, 2012, 01:02:09 AM: May nakakaalam ba kung kelan sale ng Sabian sa Yupangco? Thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: mykelm03 on September 22, 2012, 01:23:13 AM: mga sir, tanong lang po, ok ba tong SABIAN 45002P B8 2 PACK PLUS binibenta ng Yupannco,

http://www.yupangco.com/virtuemart?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_catalogue.tpl&product_id=1865&category_id=17

any comments sir? Salamat ng marami...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on September 22, 2012, 12:47:30 PM: Quote from: mykelm03 on September 22, 2012, 01:23:13 AM
mga sir, tanong lang po, ok ba tong SABIAN 45002P B8 2 PACK PLUS binibenta ng Yupannco,

http://www.yupangco.com/virtuemart?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_catalogue.tpl&product_id=1865&category_id=17

any comments sir? Salamat ng marami...

Sir oks din naman pero sa price nya, hanap ka na lang ng good deal na sabian B8 sa classifieds. Dami dyan.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ghoulstats on September 22, 2012, 09:31:58 PM: Quote from: mykelm03 on September 22, 2012, 01:23:13 AM
mga sir, tanong lang po, ok ba tong SABIAN 45002P B8 2 PACK PLUS binibenta ng Yupannco,

http://www.yupangco.com/virtuemart?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_catalogue.tpl&product_id=1865&category_id=17

any comments sir? Salamat ng marami...

mahal yan sa yupangco

ito nalang bilhin mo sakin d ko nagamit kasi d ko expect ill be managing a new business my parents gave me

http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=277616.0

18k lng lahat naka B8 pro kana brilliant lahat tapos Xs20 crash pa brilliant walang issues lahat my box pa kasama
Title: Need help choosing an AAX Stage Ride or AAX Metal Ride
Post by: bugoy on October 15, 2012, 10:52:10 PM: Mga sir hingi sana ako ng advice sa inyo, if you get to choose from the two only, anong pipiliin niyo and why ? for hard rock to trash metal na tugtugan.

an AAX Stage ride 20" or an AAX Metal Ride 20" and why ? from those two only. I'm asking because wala ako experience on both and yan lang 2 options ko as a gift hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on October 16, 2012, 03:14:32 AM: Nice gift yan a,haha.

Metal ride na bro. Pero check mo rin yung mga sample sa youtube.

Maganda kasi yung ping ng metal ride. Pero check mo rin what works for you.
Title: Re: Need help choosing an AAX Stage Ride or AAX Metal Ride
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 16, 2012, 03:31:12 AM: Quote from: bugoy on October 15, 2012, 10:52:10 PM
Mga sir hingi sana ako ng advice sa inyo, if you get to choose from the two only, anong pipiliin niyo and why ? for hard rock to trash metal na tugtugan.

an AAX Stage ride 20" or an AAX Metal Ride 20" and why ? from those two only. I'm asking because wala ako experience on both and yan lang 2 options ko as a gift hehe

depends on how you use your ride actually. bell sounds the same for both. If your more of a crash rider, go with the AAX stage. If you're more of a ping player, go with the AAX metal ride. If halfway ping and crash ride ka, go with an AAX stage 22".
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on October 16, 2012, 04:04:44 PM: ok what do you mean by "ping player" sorry hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on October 16, 2012, 04:58:29 PM: Quote from: bugoy on October 16, 2012, 04:04:44 PM
ok what do you mean by "ping player" sorry hehe

Ping player - is when you prefer the ping sound of thicker rides compared to the washy traits of thinner ones.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 17, 2012, 09:27:47 AM: Quote from: bugoy on October 16, 2012, 04:04:44 PM
ok what do you mean by "ping player" sorry hehe

Quote from: Akira JUMBO on October 16, 2012, 04:58:29 PM
Ping player - is when you prefer the ping sound of thicker rides compared to the washy traits of thinner ones.

Yup. focused sound and less to no wash ang hanap ng ping players. Imagine getting somewhat the bell sound off the whole ride, yun yung ping sound. perfect for blastbeats, bad for crash riders as it leaves a gongy aftertaste when you crash it. generally makukuha mo yung sound na ito with med heavy to heavy rides. if trip mo best of both worlds, adjust ka sa size para yung distribution ng tunog at yung surface area na pwede mong paglaruan mas malawak, mas madami kang makukuhang tunog.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: telramvuli on October 17, 2012, 11:45:21 AM: tanong lang po, yung hammering po ba ng HHX na malalaki compared sa HH ay machine made ba or handhammered? thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: dreddurius on October 17, 2012, 01:29:28 PM: Quote from: telramvuli on October 17, 2012, 11:45:21 AM
tanong lang po, yung hammering po ba ng HHX na malalaki compared sa HH ay machine made ba or handhammered? thanks!

HHX pies are machine-hammered BUT guided by hand. This is so to achieve yung mina-market ng sabian na "Tone Projection" which is inherent in all HHX pies.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 18, 2012, 04:00:12 AM: Quote from: dreddurius on October 17, 2012, 01:29:28 PM
HHX pies are machine-hammered BUT guided by hand. This is so to achieve yung mina-market ng sabian na "Tone Projection" which is inherent in all HHX pies.

actually machine and hand hammered ang HHX lines. indeed, tone projection couldn't be achieved solely by hand hammering kaya kailangan talaga ng machine hammering; pero yung darkness na hinahabol sa line na ito ay achieved by hand hammering. yung malalaking hammering sa HHX lines are hand hammered. kilatisin mo maigi yung HHX pie mo sa edge banda, you'll see hints of machine hammering underneath pero hindi ganun kadami ang distribution nito vs AA or AAX na hammering distibution.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: narz on October 18, 2012, 11:48:26 AM: ang dami kong nakitang fake na aax ride sa raon kahapon :D
sana may magawa dito mga kinauukulan
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on October 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM: Wala na tayong magagawa sa mga fake bro.
Kasama na yan sa "it's more fun in the Philippines"
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on October 18, 2012, 09:38:55 PM: Quote from: narz on October 18, 2012, 11:48:26 AM
ang dami kong nakitang fake na aax ride sa raon kahapon :D
sana may magawa dito mga kinauukulan

how do you determine a fake sabian ?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: narz on October 18, 2012, 10:37:23 PM: Quote from: bugoy on October 18, 2012, 09:38:55 PM
how do you determine a fake sabian ?

Very obvious. sa itchura pa lang.
lalo na sa price. imagine brandnew aax ride for 4k?
picturan ko pag nagawi ulet ako dun.
kaya guys beware
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 19, 2012, 11:10:36 PM: Quote from: bugoy on October 18, 2012, 09:38:55 PM
how do you determine a fake sabian ?

first - the price is too good to be true
second - check if there's an engraved "sabian" logo at the topmost part opposite of the printed sabian logo; or just look for an engraved logo or serial in general.
third - the hammering is not of the distinctive AAX style. It's hard to tell unless you really know your sabian pies. applicable if ever for those na alam kung ano ang itsura dapat ng AAX hammering at naghahanap ng dagdag pies.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: narz on October 20, 2012, 08:49:45 AM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on October 19, 2012, 11:10:36 PM
first - the price is too good to be true
second - check if there's an engraved "sabian" logo at the topmost part opposite of the printed sabian logo; or just look for an engraved logo or serial in general.
third - the hammering is not of the distinctive AAX style. It's hard to tell unless you really know your sabian pies. applicable if ever for those na alam kung ano ang itsura dapat ng AAX hammering at naghahanap ng dagdag pies.

+1 sir :D

kaya guys beware. di porket mura means nakatipid na tayo
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: telramvuli on October 21, 2012, 12:52:45 AM: salamat sa mga info about hhx hammering. :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: telramvuli on January 10, 2013, 01:29:23 PM: clearance sale sa yupangco til jan.31. nakabili ako ng 16"virgil donati saturation crash na parang bago pa for only 6k. best buy ko yung 10" aa rocktagon splash for only 1k! check it out! madami pang sale na best buy!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: skunkyfunk on January 30, 2013, 10:41:45 PM: GUSTO KO NG 22" SABIAN ARTISAN RAW BELL RIDE! :-P :-P :-P
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on March 12, 2013, 08:57:21 PM: Sharing my Sabian pies. I love them all but sad to say i have to sell some. Need cash :cute:

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/incubus_boy08/DSC04032_zps971934d6.jpg)

Sabian AA Rock Ride 20"
Sabian AA Metal-X Crash 18"
Sabian Xs20 Medium Thin Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Evolution O-zone Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Chinese 18"
Sabian AAX Splash 10"
Sabian AAX Splash 8"
Sabian AAX Stage Hats 14"
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on March 13, 2013, 01:54:47 AM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on March 12, 2013, 08:57:21 PM
Sharing my Sabian pies. I love them all but sad to say i have to sell some. Need cash :cute:

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/incubus_boy08/DSC04032_zps971934d6.jpg)

Sabian AA Rock Ride 20"
Sabian AA Metal-X Crash 18"
Sabian Xs20 Medium Thin Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Evolution O-zone Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Chinese 18"
Sabian AAX Splash 10"
Sabian AAX Splash 8"
Sabian AAX Stage Hats 14"

Why are you selling them bro? Naalala ko pa way back na matagal mo na acquire yang pies mo.
anyways, good luck.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on March 13, 2013, 02:59:19 AM: Quote from: jake zulueta on March 13, 2013, 01:54:47 AM
Why are you selling them bro? Naalala ko pa way back na matagal mo na acquire yang pies mo.
anyways, good luck.

Need cash sir... Sana makabawi!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: cradleoflife212121 on March 14, 2013, 10:35:58 AM: question: pwede po bang pang wash yung 18" AAX Studio Crash? thank you po. :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on March 14, 2013, 11:31:43 AM: Quote from: cradleoflife212121 on March 14, 2013, 10:35:58 AM
question: pwede po bang pang wash yung 18" AAX Studio Crash? thank you po. :)

pwede naman. thinner model to with small bell profile so may control ung waswaswaswash riding mo. :-D

any crash naman siguro pede. depende siguro sa genre at volume ng tugtugan. say if nasa metal ka at AAX Studio Crash 18" gamitin mo mag wash ride, siguro lulubog sa mix at tendency paluin mu pa ng husto at mag crack. hehehe. pero if AAX plosion 18", mag cut siya. Pero if yung tipong alternative or genre na less volume ang tugtugan mu, siguro swak ung Studio Crash sa pag wash ride.

i wash all my cymbals---- nang suka. hehehe :wave:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: cradleoflife212121 on March 14, 2013, 12:57:44 PM: Quote from: pejadanza on March 14, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
pwede naman. thinner model to with small bell profile so may control ung waswaswaswash riding mo. :-D

any crash naman siguro pede. depende siguro sa genre at volume ng tugtugan. say if nasa metal ka at AAX Studio Crash 18" gamitin mo mag wash ride, siguro lulubog sa mix at tendency paluin mu pa ng husto at mag crack. hehehe. pero if AAX plosion 18", mag cut siya. Pero if yung tipong alternative or genre na less volume ang tugtugan mu, siguro swak ung Studio Crash sa pag wash ride.

i wash all my cymbals---- nang suka. hehehe :wave:

thank you po sir. i guess hanap pa ako ng iba. nagtitingin po kasi ako ng pwedeng pang wash riding na bagay sa metal. :D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: gamerJake7 on March 26, 2013, 09:59:09 PM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on March 12, 2013, 08:57:21 PM
Sharing my Sabian pies. I love them all but sad to say i have to sell some. Need cash :cute:

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/incubus_boy08/DSC04032_zps971934d6.jpg)

Sabian AA Rock Ride 20"
Sabian AA Metal-X Crash 18"
Sabian Xs20 Medium Thin Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Evolution O-zone Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Chinese 18"
Sabian AAX Splash 10"
Sabian AAX Splash 8"
Sabian AAX Stage Hats 14"
alin dyan sir sa mga cymbals mo ang bnebenta moh? hehe. pde b ung ozone or china? mgkano sir? hehe.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on March 27, 2013, 12:17:09 AM: Quote from: gamerJake7 on March 26, 2013, 09:59:09 PM
alin dyan sir sa mga cymbals mo ang bnebenta moh? hehe. pde b ung ozone or china? mgkano sir? hehe.

Nag-PM na ko sayo sir check your inbox hehe...
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ciwiaf on April 26, 2013, 11:48:50 PM: question lang po, sorry kung natanong na to before, di ko makita dito sa thread eh, anyway,
ano po ba pinagkaiba ng B8 performance set sa B8 Pro? sale kasi sa yamaha, balak ko bumili
pasok kasi sa budget, beginner palang ako almost 1 month palang nag ddrums hehe, gusto ko
lang palitan yung stock na fernando cymbals, parang kaldero kasi haha..

thanks
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on April 27, 2013, 03:39:23 AM: Quote from: ciwiaf on April 26, 2013, 11:48:50 PM
question lang po, sorry kung natanong na to before, di ko makita dito sa thread eh, anyway,
ano po ba pinagkaiba ng B8 performance set sa B8 Pro? sale kasi sa yamaha, balak ko bumili
pasok kasi sa budget, beginner palang ako almost 1 month palang nag ddrums hehe, gusto ko
lang palitan yung stock na fernando cymbals, parang kaldero kasi haha..

thanks

Well according ang nakikita ko lang difference nila is with the finish. B8 is natural while B8 Pro is brilliant finish according sa Sabian website.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jho@yahoo.com on April 27, 2013, 07:42:50 AM: @ sir. ciwiaf:
sir. san pong yamaha may sale na sabian cymbals! pa share naman po, balak ko kasing bumili. Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on April 27, 2013, 08:32:44 AM: aside from the finish, b8pro's are brighter than b8's.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: ciwiaf on April 27, 2013, 05:03:58 PM: Ah ganun ba, thanks sa mga reply! :-D

Sa SM Megamall po yung may sale, till april 30 ata
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: DBG on May 03, 2013, 01:08:09 AM: Mga kapatid. I was just wondering kung authentic ba itong mga pies na to. Kakaiba kasi yung itchura eh. Parang hindi naman ganito ang AAX. Logos palang nakakaintriga na! Take note yung print na "Stage Ride" dun sa ride na binebenta niya, it's not the same dun sa pic sinearch ko sa google. And he's selling his items way way cheaper. Parang hindi naman realistic at may libre pang cymbal bags? Suuuspiciouss! <_< <_<

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/11543349/Sabian+AAX+4+pcs+Cymbals+all+Brand+NEW+10%2C500k+na+lang?referralKeywords=cymbals&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-2,2#advertisementDetails

Eto yung link sa pic ng AAX stage hats sa google.

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/Sabian-AAX-20-Stage-Ride---Brilliant-finish-P3926C479.aspx

:-P
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: reinramirez on May 03, 2013, 08:30:50 AM: Quote from: pinoydrummer on May 03, 2013, 01:08:09 AM
Mga kapatid. I was just wondering kung authentic ba itong mga pies na to. Kakaiba kasi yung itchura eh. Parang hindi naman ganito ang AAX. Logos palang nakakaintriga na! Take note yung print na "Stage Ride" dun sa ride na binebenta niya, it's not the same dun sa pic sinearch ko sa google. And he's selling his items way way cheaper. Parang hindi naman realistic at may libre pang cymbal bags? Suuuspiciouss! <_< <_<

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/11543349/Sabian+AAX+4+pcs+Cymbals+all+Brand+NEW+10%2C500k+na+lang?referralKeywords=cymbals&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-2,2#advertisementDetails

Eto yung link sa pic ng AAX stage hats sa google.

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/Sabian-AAX-20-Stage-Ride---Brilliant-finish-P3926C479.aspx

:-P

"if it is too good to be true, it probably is" lol not sure kung tama, pero para sa AAX (which is a professional cymbal) eh masyado yan mura(mas mababa pa sa beginner cymbals)

ito pala, nakalimutan ko na kung san ko nakuha pero makakatulong to, dahil dito kaya nag hold back ako bumili ng beginner at intermediate cymbal.

Quote
I see a lot of threads about people asking for cymbal recommendations, so I thought it would be a good idea to make sort of a template as a centralized resource where people can gather information and then ask questions from there. I figured it'd be easier than completely starting from scratch. I'll start off with a brief description of each class of cymbal and then proceed to the different upgrade options afterwards. So without further ado, here we go.

===Stock cymbals===
These are the brass discs you generally get stuck with when you buy a beginner shell pack. The only thing about them that remotely resembles a cymbal is it's shape. Avoid these at all costs.

===Beginner cymbals===
Sheet bronze cymbals are your basic entry level cymbals. They're geared towards beginner drummers who want something better than the previously mentioned stock cymbals. Being made of B8, they have a bright, cutting sound, and are very reasonably priced for aspiring drummers, as well as people who want to experiment with some new sounds without killing their bank account. Why are they so (comparably) inexpensive? They are made by taking a big sheet of bronze and stamping the cymbals out of the sheet like a cookie cutter. Every cymbal is just a copy of the next, which keeps costs down. Here are some examples of beginner cymbals:

ZBT/ZXT (Zildjian): Both are in a brilliant finish.

B8/B8 Pro (Sabian): B8's are in a traditional finish, B8 Pro's are brilliant.

PST5 (Paiste): Natural finish.

===Intermediate cymbals===
Intermediate cymbals fall in between beginner and pro level cymbals. They have some more individual attention paid to them and/or different metals, which raises their quality level. They aren't as cut and dry as beginner sheet cymbals, which allows for some more variety and choice when selecting this level. Here are some examples of intermediate cymbals:

ZHT (Zildjian): Made of B12 bronze. B12 is a good middle point between B8 and B20 (cast) cymbals. It has a warmer sound than B8, but not as warm as B20.

XS20 (Sabian): Intermediate cymbals made of B20 bronze. They are the only full line of cast cymbals offered at such a low price point. They're made the same way as professional cast cymbals, but they aren't hammered. Less work to make them means less money you have to spend on them.

Alpha (Paiste): Intermediate/Semi pro cymbals made of B8. They're basically PST5's with more attention paid to them.

New Traditional (Wuhan): And you thought Wuhan only made chinas. Nope! They have an extensive line of professional quality B20 cymbals at a fraction of the cost, fitting them perfectly into this category.

===Professional (cast) cymbals===
Cast cymbals are what dreams are made of in a drummers world. Each cymbal is made through an individual process of hammering and lathing, giving each cymbal a more unique sound (albeit, some more than others). B20 is generally a warm, middle of the road sounding cymbal, but how it's worked on ultimately defines its sound. Of course, with individual attention comes a higher price point. Something to keep in mind when searching for a new sound. Here are some examples of cast cymbals:

A/A Custom (Zildjian): These cymbals offer a wonderful bright while still maintaining nice warm undertones. These are usually the go to cymbals for people looking to upgrade.

K/K Custom (Zildjian): Very dark and dry cymbals. They're hammered more than the A/A Customs, which gives them their darker sound.

AA/AAX (Sabian): These are Sabian's vintage and modern bright cymbal lines, respectively.

HH/HHX (Sabian): These are Sabian's vintage and modern dark cymbal lines, respectively. They are one of the few lines from a major company that still incorporates hand hammering in the process.

2002 (Paiste): While made of B8 bronze as opposed to B20, these are still just as much a professional cymbal as the cast lines. They stand out more in terms of sound when compared to Sabian and Zildjian's lines, which sound more similar.

Upgrade paths
This is where I think most of you would come in. Here are some different upgrade paths and an explanation of why they work or don't work.

Stock cymbals>Beginner cymbals
If you've been playing on stock cymbals and want something more real to play, you should try to avoid buying a beginner pack unless you're on a budget. In this case, you would want to go for an intermediate line.

Stock cymbals>Intermediate cymbals
This is a better path to go down as opposed to buying beginner stuff. XS20's and New Traditional's are great values and will be able to hold you over for quite some time until you're ready to move forward to cast cymbals.

Beginner cymbals>Intermediate cymbals
This is very rarely recommended unless you're on a budget. Going from ZBT's to ZHT's won't yield very many results. In a case like this, you'd want to look into XS20's or New Traditional's since they are a cut above the rest in terms of quality. But this really only happens if you're on a tight budget and can't afford to go into the pro line.

Beginner cymbals>Professional cymbals
This is generally the best path to go down. Once you feel you've had enough of your entry level stuff and you want to upgrade, you should really look into cast cymbals. Visit your local music shop and/or listen to sound samples online to find the sound you want. There's also a huge market on Craigslist and eBay for used cymbals, so you can find the cymbals you want at a price you can afford.

Intermediate cymbals>Professional cymbals
This one's pretty self explanatory. A good intermediate line can hold you over for quite a while, but you'll know where to go when the time comes.

In the end, it all comes down to the sound you're looking for. But I figured this would be a good starting place for people looking for cymbal upgrade info. Feel free to add on any information you'd like and thanks for reading

and then there is the "second hand professional cymbals", iwas lang ako bumili sa mga ayaw magpatesting sa lugar nila.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: gss on May 03, 2013, 09:05:33 AM: Quote from: pinoydrummer on May 03, 2013, 01:08:09 AM
Mga kapatid. I was just wondering kung authentic ba itong mga pies na to. ...
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/11543349/Sabian+AAX+4+pcs+Cymbals+all+Brand+NEW+10%2C500k+na+lang?referralKeywords=cymbals&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-2,2#advertisementDetails

Eto yung link sa pic ng AAX stage hats sa google.

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/Sabian-AAX-20-Stage-Ride---Brilliant-finish-P3926C479.aspx

:-P

no they're not.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: DBG on May 08, 2013, 03:15:57 PM: Oh well. Kung hindi pala legit yung ulupong na nagbebenta sa sulit, sunugin na natin siya ng buhay bago pa makapanloko ng mga fellow drummers! :razz: :razz: :razz:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on May 08, 2013, 04:59:20 PM: Actually dami nagkalat sa raon ng fake Sabian AAX na yan. Brass ata sya kundi ako nagkakamali at hindi B8 bronze
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: iplaydrums4u on May 08, 2013, 10:20:11 PM: ^may kumakalat pang istorya ngayon na made in Canada daw yang "class A" na yan. haha :eek:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on May 08, 2013, 10:23:50 PM: Quote from: iplaydrums4u on May 08, 2013, 10:20:11 PM
^may kumakalat pang istorya ngayon na made in Canada daw yang "class A" na yan. haha :eek:

Waw sino naman kaya ang nagsimula ng kwento nyan?

Kung made in Canada yung class A, e san pa kaya made yung mga tunay na Sabian pies? :eek:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: DBG on May 09, 2013, 06:29:13 PM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on May 08, 2013, 10:23:50 PM
Waw sino naman kaya ang nagsimula ng kwento nyan?

Kung made in Canada yung class A, e san pa kaya made yung mga tunay na Sabian pies? :eek:

Sa Canada ang main factory ng Sabian pies, so that means sila rin ang gumagawa ng mga Class A na nabibili sa raon? Luhh. :|
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on May 09, 2013, 08:38:38 PM: Quote from: pinoydrummer on May 09, 2013, 06:29:13 PM

Sa Canada ang main factory ng Sabian pies, so that means sila rin ang gumagawa ng mga Class A na nabibili sa raon? Luhh. :|

Killing their own business haha!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: dingdong_jigolo on May 21, 2013, 05:28:23 PM: Bros, tanong lang. What can you say about the Sabian Arena Mix Cymbal set?

AAX 14" Hats and 20" Stage Ride
16" & 18" HHX X-Plosion Crashes

saw someone selling for 40k bnew. good deal na ba to? tia :-\
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jake z on May 22, 2013, 08:02:44 AM: Quote from: dingdong_jigolo on May 21, 2013, 05:28:23 PM
Bros, tanong lang. What can you say about the Sabian Arena Mix Cymbal set?

AAX 14" Hats and 20" Stage Ride
16" & 18" HHX X-Plosion Crashes

saw someone selling for 40k bnew. good deal na ba to? tia :-\

its kinda high, but price is legit.
you will have lots of fun if you'll get them.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: lockedonstratos on August 07, 2013, 09:12:33 PM: mga pre. may nakapagsabi lang sakin, may fake po bang Sabian B8 ride cymbals? if meron, pano ko po malalamang fake yon?? plano ko pong bumili e
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on August 12, 2013, 01:26:37 PM: anyone knows anong pinagkaiba ng AAX Novo to a normal AAX ?

also anong characteristic difference ng normal AAX crash sa AAXplosion crashes ?

Thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on August 14, 2013, 01:04:37 AM: Quote from: bugoy on August 12, 2013, 01:26:37 PM
anyone knows anong pinagkaiba ng AAX Novo to a normal AAX ?

also anong characteristic difference ng normal AAX crash sa AAXplosion crashes ?

Thanks!

Haven't personally tried out Novo prototypes pero according to reviews, mas short yung sustain and more on "kang" than "thrash" yung tunog nitong line na ito. As for AAXplosion vs other AAX Lines, mas lighter at more fine ang lathing nito for better volume and projection. Raw bell din ito (yung sa akin ah, not too sure kung raw bell ba talaga dapat..) Normal cymbals fall under the AA lines IMO, since AAX lines cater to specialized versions of the AA lines.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on August 14, 2013, 01:15:12 AM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on August 14, 2013, 01:04:37 AM
Haven't personally tried out Novo prototypes pero according to reviews, mas short yung sustain and more on "kang" than "thrash" yung tunog nitong line na ito. As for AAXplosion vs other AAX Lines, mas lighter at more fine ang lathing nito for better volume and projection. Raw bell din ito (yung sa akin ah, not too sure kung raw bell ba talaga dapat..) Normal cymbals fall under the AA lines IMO, since AAX lines cater to specialized versions of the AA lines.

in terms of sound AAX and AAXplosion, ano mas dark sa dalawa at mas mahaba ang sustain ?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on August 14, 2013, 04:26:13 AM: Quote from: bugoy on August 14, 2013, 01:15:12 AM
in terms of sound AAX and AAXplosion, ano mas dark sa dalawa at mas mahaba ang sustain ?

AAX Dark Crash 18" above na sizes hanap mo chief. orgasmic tunog nun! :drool:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on August 15, 2013, 08:41:32 PM: given the only 2 options, an AAX Stage crash 17" or an AAXplosion crash 17", what would you rather have as your main crash and why? pang gig.

para bang pang miss universe na tanong ? hehehe :P
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on August 16, 2013, 12:43:12 AM: Quote from: bugoy on August 15, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
given the only 2 options, an AAX Stage crash 17" or an AAXplosion crash 17", what would you rather have as your main crash and why? pang gig.

para bang pang miss universe na tanong ? hehehe :P

AAXplosion crash 17" <- I want this in my kit too wala pa lang pera hehe..

Parang nahihilig lang ako lately sa mga odd-sized cymbals hehe..
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on August 16, 2013, 03:30:53 AM: Quote from: bugoy on August 15, 2013, 08:41:32 PM
given the only 2 options, an AAX Stage crash 17" or an AAXplosion crash 17", what would you rather have as your main crash and why? pang gig.

para bang pang miss universe na tanong ? hehehe :P

Quote from: incubus_boy08 on August 16, 2013, 12:43:12 AM
AAXplosion crash 17" <- I want this in my kit too wala pa lang pera hehe..

Parang nahihilig lang ako lately sa mga odd-sized cymbals hehe..

It's either you go with an AAX stage 17" or an AAXplosion in 19" if we're talking about odd size to gig worthiness ratio (with a bit of IMO mixed in). we're still within the topic of a dark sounding pie right?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on August 16, 2013, 11:35:37 AM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on August 16, 2013, 03:30:53 AM
It's either you go with an AAX stage 17" or an AAXplosion in 19" if we're talking about odd size to gig worthiness ratio (with a bit of IMO mixed in). we're still within the topic of a dark sounding pie right?

either hehe, isama na rin natin sa tanong on your own preference would you like to have a dark sounding primary crash or a bright one and why ? and given the only 2 options AAX Stage 17" and an AAXplosion 17"
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on August 17, 2013, 06:13:35 PM: Quote from: bugoy on August 16, 2013, 11:35:37 AM
either hehe, isama na rin natin sa tanong on your own preference would you like to have a dark sounding primary crash or a bright one and why ? and given the only 2 options AAX Stage 17" and an AAXplosion 17"

if blend yung habol mo sa main crash, go with dark sounding pies. if cut naman or for accents, go with the bright ones. given the 2 options, I'd go with the AAXplosion anytime. sexy cymbal indeed! :drool:
Title: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: bugoy on September 03, 2013, 07:56:47 PM: Patulong naman mga bro, can someone confirm if this is a legit actual AAX 20" Metal ride ?

balak ko kasi bilhin to pero nabura DAW nung seller yung AAX metal ride 20" logo

pics below

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/1.JPG)

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/2.JPG)

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/3.JPG)

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/4.JPG)
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 03, 2013, 09:38:43 PM: Quote from: bugoy on September 03, 2013, 07:56:47 PM
Patulong naman mga bro, can someone confirm if this is a legit actual AAX 20" Metal ride ?

balak ko kasi bilhin to pero nabura DAW nung seller yung AAX metal ride 20" logo

pics below

Ask for the pic of the engraved sabian logo. it's somewhere sa taas ng erased AAX Logo. yun ang basehan ko kapag buradong logo yung binibili ko. medyo wary pa ako sa hammering niya. :x
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: IncX on September 03, 2013, 10:34:51 PM: i am sure my AAX doesnt look anywhere close to that
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: bugoy on September 03, 2013, 11:57:48 PM: Quote from: IncX on September 03, 2013, 10:34:51 PM
i am sure my AAX doesnt look anywhere close to that

traditional or brilliant yung sayo bro ?
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 04, 2013, 12:27:12 AM: Quote from: bugoy on September 03, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
traditional or brilliant yung sayo bro ?

polish lang naman ang difference nun cosmetics-wise. still not convinced na legit yang item. iba yung hammering from the usual AAX. parang HHX yung hammering ang laki masyado. :nosebleed:
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: IncX on September 04, 2013, 02:09:06 AM: Quote from: bugoy on September 03, 2013, 11:57:48 PM
traditional or brilliant yung sayo bro ?

traditional ... bura din ang logo, pero pantay ang pagkabura lol ...

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t51/celtiknihilist/sabiancymbals1_zpsd71074d6.jpg)
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: bugoy on September 04, 2013, 04:20:59 AM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on September 04, 2013, 12:27:12 AM
polish lang naman ang difference nun cosmetics-wise. still not convinced na legit yang item. iba yung hammering from the usual AAX. parang HHX yung hammering ang laki masyado. :nosebleed:

parang pareho dun sa post ^ ni IncX yung hammering ?

eto nag dagdag pa ng additional pic

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/5.JPG)

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/6.JPG)

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/7.JPG)

mukha bang legit ?
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 04, 2013, 04:50:45 AM: Quote from: bugoy on September 04, 2013, 04:20:59 AM
parang pareho dun sa post ^ ni IncX yung hammering ?

eto nag dagdag pa ng additional pic

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/5.JPG)

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/6.JPG)

(http://filekeeper.com.php5-1.ord1-1.websitetestlink.com/aax/7.JPG)

mukha bang legit ?

legit yan kung merong engraving. yung mga AAX na fakes walang engraving, personally saw a set of 'em. bagong release yang AAX na yan? parang ang laki ng hammering, or baka sa pic lang siguro.
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: bugoy on September 04, 2013, 04:58:52 AM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on September 04, 2013, 04:50:45 AM
legit yan kung merong engraving. yung mga AAX na fakes walang engraving, personally saw a set of 'em. bagong release yang AAX na yan? parang ang laki ng hammering, or baka sa pic lang siguro.

nagtataka nga rin ako eh, pareho siya nung kay IncX, yung mga bago na AAX metal na nakikita ko sa musiciansfriend at sa site mismo ng sabian hindi ganyan, so i assume luma yan,

@IncX anong year yung AAX Metal Ride mo binili ? kaw ba first owner ? i think pareho to nung sayo

na tetempt na ako bilhin sobrang mura eh haha presyong B8 ang benta
Title: Re: Help Re AAX Metal ride
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 04, 2013, 05:04:38 AM: Quote from: bugoy on September 04, 2013, 04:58:52 AM
nagtataka nga rin ako eh, pareho siya nung kay IncX, yung mga bago na AAX metal na nakikita ko sa musiciansfriend at sa site mismo ng sabian hindi ganyan, so i assume luma yan,

@IncX anong year yung AAX Metal Ride mo binili ? kaw ba first owner ? i think pareho to nung sayo

na tetempt na ako bilhin sobrang mura eh haha presyong B8 ang benta

kunin mo na yan! kahit fake pa yan mura pa din offer price! :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on September 12, 2013, 12:38:43 AM: i have these 3,

AAX Stage Crash 17"
AAX X-Plosion Crash 18"
AAX Stage Crash 18"

http://community.sabian.com/EN/products/productComparison.cfm?type=compare&id1=1508&id2=1509&id3=1498&selSeries=1196&selType=1145&selboonly=0&selSortBy=1&currPage=2&numRec=10

hanggang ngayon di ako makapag decide ano gagawin kong main crash i play 90's rock like gnr skid row and alternative like soundgarden alice in chains on my other band hehehe. hindi ko pa ginagamit yung 17" ayoko kasi ng cymbals 18" below sizes as crash. hindi ko talaga marinig difference ng X-plosion crash ko at stage crash ko hahaha your thoughts ? ano mas pipiliin niyo main crash diyan sa dalawa disregarding the 17" ?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 12, 2013, 12:59:17 AM: Quote from: bugoy on September 12, 2013, 12:38:43 AM
i have these 3,

AAX Stage Crash 17"
AAX X-Plosion Crash 18"
AAX Stage Crash 18"

http://community.sabian.com/EN/products/productComparison.cfm?type=compare&id1=1508&id2=1509&id3=1498&selSeries=1196&selType=1145&selboonly=0&selSortBy=1&currPage=2&numRec=10

hanggang ngayon di ako makapag decide ano gagawin kong main crash i play 90's rock like gnr skid row and alternative like soundgarden alice in chains on my other band hehehe. hindi ko pa ginagamit yung 17" ayoko kasi ng cymbals 18" below sizes as crash. hindi ko talaga marinig difference ng X-plosion crash ko at stage crash ko hahaha your thoughts ? ano mas pipiliin niyo main crash diyan sa dalawa disregarding the 17" ?

On a live setup, magkatunog talaga yang dalawa. Technically, manipis ang aaxplosion at makapal ang stage series pero same ending lang din, loud volume in general silang pareho. For me, mas malinis ang projection ng aaxplosion vs. sa wall of sound ng stage crash (lalo kapag crash riding). I'd go with the AAXplosion anyday dahil sa reason na yun.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on September 22, 2013, 05:02:01 PM: I got an AAXplosion crash 18 pero parang nalalakihan ako haha. Baka may 17" AAXplosion kayo dyan pa-try naman hehe.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kulapoot on September 23, 2013, 04:56:57 AM: My favorite crash is my old Sabian b8 pro medium crash.ganda tunog kahet medyo lowend cymbal lang. Masgusto ko pa tunog neto kesa sa A custom projection crash ko.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on November 04, 2013, 10:52:03 PM: Reviews on my recent sabian pies

Sabian: HOOP Crasher (jojo mayer) 14 - tunog nung hoop crasher is like a stack cymbal. brighter tonal characteristic. pag nag rim shot ka kasabay hoop crasher (although hindi mo na matamaan ung rim like normally) it would sound like a snare with stack cymbal na bright so i think its best to install it on a snare with a decent depth. you can get unique sounds from hitting the crasher alone. depende rin sa higpit nung 3 pcs na lock. tunog "TCH" ung crasher. once nag install ka ng hoop crasher, wala kanang crosstick. you will hit the crasher with the hoop. pero pag sa center ka mag hit ng snare, hindi talaga tutunog ung crasher ateast you would get a full snare sound without the sound of the HC.

HHX CLICK HATS 14:
Dark, very crispy, medyo dry and somewhat agitated yung sound like the artisans. projection is not as much as the HHX evos.

Artisan Light Ride 22 - very agitated very dark ride. pati bell lubog sa dark. ganda ng wash and blends well. crashable. ping sound may kasamang agitated wash. the bell doesn't cut. blend lang talaga.

AAX Air Splash 8- very quick and agitated splash. no overtones and cuts very well. one of my favorite splash!

Paragon Diamond Back 20 - finally, after a long search of a musical china, i found it. china that produces "PAH" sound. hindi puro angas. medyo dry ung sound niya. it comes with jingles and rivets, un lang ang sustain niya. hindi sustain galing sa overtones ng china.

Wanted to write reviews on other sabians but i think it would take so much time.
Else, post or pm a cymbal you want to be reviewed:
RIDES: HHX RBDR 21, HHX Groove Ride 21, HHX Evo 20, Artisan Light Ride 22

CRASHES: HHXtreme 17, 18, HHX Evo 17, HHX Evo Ozone 18, Vault Artisan 16, AA Med Thin 17, HHX Plosion 18, AAXplosion 16, AAX Dark 15, VFX crash (rare), AAX Aero 17, HHX Legacy 17, APX crash 16, Vault Fierce Crash 18,

SPLASHES: HHX Evo 7, 10, 12, Air splash 8, Max Splash 7, 10, AAX Aero splash 10, HHX splash 10, AA China Splash 10, AAX Ozone splash 10, 12,

EFFECTS & Specialties: HHX Chinese 18, Vault Holy China 19, AAXtreme 17, Hoop Crasher, Chopper 10, 12, Holy China kang 12

HATS: HHX Evo hats 13, HHX Click hats 14, AAX celerator 13

feel free to pm me.

Hoop Crasher

(https://z-n.ak.fbcdn.net/sphotos-h.ak/hphotos-ak-prn2/v/p206x206/1392981_10202515883642512_1528904247_n.jpg?oh=1ffceb5c7cd361bfdbb4f814efbd8449&oe=5279B82A&__gda__=1383746693_a256d268a474efe470324d6bdfd17c63)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: denzana on November 09, 2013, 12:29:57 AM: Mga sir!May Alam ba kayong store na magsasale ng SABIAN pies this coming Christmas? :cry: Inform niyo naman po ang lahat kung meron mang nakakaalam jan, :cute: Thanks po!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on November 10, 2013, 01:07:20 PM: Quote from: denzana on November 09, 2013, 12:29:57 AM
Mga sir!May Alam ba kayong store na magsasale ng SABIAN pies this coming Christmas? :cry: Inform niyo naman po ang lahat kung meron mang nakakaalam jan, :cute: Thanks po!

yupangco/perfectpitch/yamaha lang naman yata ang nag bebenta ng sabian dito sa pinas
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on November 11, 2013, 01:02:06 PM: Quote from: denzana on November 09, 2013, 12:29:57 AM
Mga sir!May Alam ba kayong store na magsasale ng SABIAN pies this coming Christmas? :cry: Inform niyo naman po ang lahat kung meron mang nakakaalam jan, :cute: Thanks po!

Kaka sale lang nila til oct 31. Pero baka nag extend. Try ka maki usap sa manager. Minsan may option sila ede e extend ang sale ng ibang items.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on November 11, 2013, 06:39:56 PM: palagi naman yata naka sale yung mga sabian dun sa pefect pitch hehe pansin ko lang :-D wala akong punta dun na hindi naka sale pero mahal parin compared sa US prices
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on November 13, 2013, 10:37:25 PM: Quote from: bugoy on November 11, 2013, 06:39:56 PM
palagi naman yata naka sale yung mga sabian dun sa pefect pitch hehe pansin ko lang :-D wala akong punta dun na hindi naka sale pero mahal parin compared sa US prices

Hindi, standard yung 10% off sa cymbals sa retail price nila. Pag nag sale, may 30% off sa cymbals. At may certain stocks na mag 40% off.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on November 13, 2013, 11:00:28 PM: Quote from: pejadanza on November 13, 2013, 10:37:25 PM
Hindi, standard yung 10% off sa cymbals sa retail price nila. Pag nag sale, may 30% off sa cymbals. At may certain stocks na mag 40% off.

pero sad to say di nila sinasabi sa iba na may sale,sa kanila napupunta yung sobrang pera. :cry:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on November 14, 2013, 08:49:09 AM: Quote from: harugrugrug on November 13, 2013, 11:00:28 PM
pero sad to say di nila sinasabi sa iba na may sale,sa kanila napupunta yung sobrang pera. :cry:

hala! may ganun pala? sa ilo ilo at cebu ayus naman yung manager. nag iinform kapag may sale na 30% off.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on November 14, 2013, 01:12:06 PM: Quote from: pejadanza on November 14, 2013, 08:49:09 AM
hala! may ganun pala? sa ilo ilo at cebu ayus naman yung manager. nag iinform kapag may sale na 30% off.

dito kapatid may mga nanggaganyan,sad to say pero matagal na panahon na yun,sana wala na ngayon, nagpurging na ata ang yupangco about that pero maangas pa din mga taga perfect pitch dito sa manila, i love sabians pero because of bad service,i was planning to buy evo set na hhx,and got inspirational pack na lang from jb,kasi all when i ask for question,one word lang sagot nila all the time,so i was pissed. i go to jb kasi they let me test the cymbals that i'm interested talaga(pero wala naman garapalan na hampasin mo lahat)hehe.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on November 18, 2013, 12:32:01 AM: My Sabian Family :mrgreen:.

Though not as big as sir pejadanza's setup

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/incubus_boy08/Sabiansetup_zpsd4ba2a1a.jpg)

20" AA Rock Ride
18" AA Metal-X Crash
21" HH Raw Bell Dry Ride
18" HHX Chinese
17" HHX Evolution Crash
18" HHX Evolution O-zone
18" AAX X-Plosion Crash
14" AAX Stage Hats
10" AAX Splash
8" AAX Splash
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: denzana on November 28, 2013, 10:30:41 PM: Thank you po sa mga nagreply sa question ko, I've visited several shops recommended, but i think it's to expensive padin. I think i'll just wait sa classifieds para makuha ako ng item na gusto ko. hoho :mrgreen: Thanks!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on November 29, 2013, 05:27:32 PM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on November 18, 2013, 12:32:01 AM
My Sabian Family :mrgreen:.

Though not as big as sir pejadanza's setup

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/incubus_boy08/Sabiansetup_zpsd4ba2a1a.jpg)

20" AA Rock Ride
18" AA Metal-X Crash
21" HH Raw Bell Dry Ride
18" HHX Chinese
17" HHX Evolution Crash
18" HHX Evolution O-zone
18" AAX X-Plosion Crash
14" AAX Stage Hats
10" AAX Splash
8" AAX Splash

GADDDDD. Sobrang nakakainggit yung setup mo bro! Congrats! Used to be an all Sabian User as wel! :) HH and AA User ako hahaha :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: denzana on December 01, 2013, 08:34:37 PM: Hello Sabian Users!Can i ask what is the best china for metal breakdowns that would be below 10k?Advice please. :cute: Thanks! :wave:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on December 02, 2013, 01:12:13 PM: Quote from: denzana on December 01, 2013, 08:34:37 PM
Hello Sabian Users!Can i ask what is the best china for metal breakdowns that would be below 10k?Advice please. :cute: Thanks! :wave:

Below 10K, second hand na AAX Chinese siguro sir.

Pwede rin APX, kaso kakaunti lang nagbebenta ng ganun dito sir.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: niroh on January 21, 2014, 10:11:18 PM: how much nalang po ang b8 sa market?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 22, 2014, 09:40:30 AM: Quote from: niroh on January 21, 2014, 10:11:18 PM
how much nalang po ang b8 sa market?

Brandnew
B8 Set (14", 16" 20") - Around 17k - 18k
B8 Crash - 5,500
B8 Ride - 6,000
B8 Hats - 6,500

Secondhand - Check ka sa classifieds. paiba iba kasi eh depende pa sa condish :D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on January 22, 2014, 06:39:52 PM: i sold my B8 18" crash + B814 Hats pair packaged for 6.5k last year mint condish. sold the 16" crash for 3k separately
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 23, 2014, 09:39:59 AM: Quote from: bugoy on January 22, 2014, 06:39:52 PM
i sold my B8 18" crash + B814 Hats pair packaged for 6.5k last year mint condish. sold the 16" crash for 3k separately

Ayun, yan yung mga dapat inaantay sa classifieds eh. THat's a steal!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bugoy on January 23, 2014, 11:02:48 AM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on January 23, 2014, 09:39:59 AM
Ayun, yan yung mga dapat inaantay sa classifieds eh. THat's a steal!

hindi ko sigurado kng steal yun hehe kasi nabili ko yung B8 set ko ng 250$ = 11,700 pesos only lang sa musiciansfriend.com brand new. tingin ko fair lang yung price ko, nasanay ka lang siguro na overpriced magbenta yung mga tao dito hahahaha... yung set na nabili ko is
16" B8 Crash
20" B8 Ride
14" B8 hats
+ freebie 18" B8 Crash
+ freebie Sabian cymbal bag

kaya ko binenta naiwan ko sa event yung b8 ride ko tinawagan ko yung may ari ng soundsystem ayaw isoli kanila daw yun kaya tinamad na ko binenta ko bumili ko AAX na set hehehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 23, 2014, 11:58:18 AM: Quote from: bugoy on January 23, 2014, 11:02:48 AM
hindi ko sigurado kng steal yun hehe kasi nabili ko yung B8 set ko ng 250$ = 11,700 pesos only lang sa musiciansfriend.com brand new. tingin ko fair lang yung price ko, nasanay ka lang siguro na overpriced magbenta yung mga tao dito hahahaha... yung set na nabili ko is
16" B8 Crash
20" B8 Ride
14" B8 hats
+ freebie 18" B8 Crash
+ freebie Sabian cymbal bag

kaya ko binenta naiwan ko sa event yung b8 ride ko tinawagan ko yung may ari ng soundsystem ayaw isoli kanila daw yun kaya tinamad na ko binenta ko bumili ko AAX na set hehehe

Yun kasi yung madaya eh HAHAHAHA kung ang price lang ng sabians dito eh parang yung price sa US stores like MF and GC, mas madaling makapili eh.

at bro, oo overpriced siya compared sa MF/GC Price, pero sa pinas ganyan ang price eh. lam mo naman, taxes and stuff. so still, yung selling price mo, steal pa rin sa nakabili, yung ganun presyo kasi, yun yung mga bugbog na B8s eh hahaha

I mean, kahit yung mga respected resellers natin dito like sila drumvillage (Dreamtheaterfan) mas mataas pa rin ang price nila (5,500 for b8 hats). iba kasi nagagawa ng tax sa presyo eh. huhuhuhu #thirdworldproblems
Title: pinagkaiba ngb8 at b8PRO
Post by: brownbread on April 10, 2014, 11:32:37 PM: mGA sir
ano main difference ng B8 at B8 pro ng sabian
Title: Re: pinagkaiba ngb8 at b8PRO
Post by: harugrugrug on April 11, 2014, 08:57:23 AM: Quote from: brownbread on April 10, 2014, 11:32:37 PM
mGA sir
ano main difference ng B8 at B8 pro ng sabian

Pang professional daw yung b8 bro,hehe.
Sound ofcourse,I find it really bright sound on b8 pro but prefer the sound of b8,IMO. :)
Title: Re: pinagkaiba ngb8 at b8PRO
Post by: sonicassault on June 04, 2014, 08:44:35 AM: Yung B8 parang "traditional finish," hindi makintab; tapos yung B8 Pro parang "brilliant finish," makintab.

Sound wise, mas masarap sa tenga yung B8 lang. The B8 Pros are way too bright and harsh for my taste, halos walang body. Yung B8 lang saktong brightness lang.

Sa hats at china pa lang, panalo na ang B8. Super talo yung ride ng B8 Pro.

Parang ganto, in other terms of comparison:

B8:
-sound system ng normal na kotse.
-sinigang sa sampalok.
-dalandan.
-clarinet
-mango flavored marshmallow
-girlfriend
-egyptian cotton
-yellow pad
-superman
-incancescent bulb
-Marlboro Red
-kaldero

B8 Pro:
-sound system ng jeep na puro tweeter lang.
-paksiw na bangus.
-hilaw na kalamasi
-trumpet
-warheads/yakee
-mother in law
-spandex
-intermediate pad
-batman
-LED bulb
-Marlboro Black Ice
-kawali
Title: Re: pinagkaiba ngb8 at b8PRO
Post by: jpmb on June 10, 2014, 02:49:13 PM: the hammering of b8 is different from b8 pro..ú..b8 pro has higher pitch than b8..hope this helps :)
Title: Re: pinagkaiba ngb8 at b8PRO
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 11, 2014, 10:01:59 AM: Quote from: sonicassault on June 04, 2014, 08:44:35 AM
Yung B8 parang "traditional finish," hindi makintab; tapos yung B8 Pro parang "brilliant finish," makintab.

Sound wise, mas masarap sa tenga yung B8 lang. The B8 Pros are way too bright and harsh for my taste, halos walang body. Yung B8 lang saktong brightness lang.

Sa hats at china pa lang, panalo na ang B8. Super talo yung ride ng B8 Pro.

Parang ganto, in other terms of comparison:

B8:
-sound system ng normal na kotse.
-sinigang sa sampalok.
-dalandan.
-clarinet
-mango flavored marshmallow
-girlfriend
-egyptian cotton
-yellow pad
-superman
-incancescent bulb
-Marlboro Red
-kaldero

B8 Pro:
-sound system ng jeep na puro tweeter lang.
-paksiw na bangus.
-hilaw na kalamasi
-trumpet
-warheads/yakee
-mother in law
-spandex
-intermediate pad
-batman
-LED bulb
-Marlboro Black Ice
-kawali

might be just for your taste. B8Pro does have its uses for other types of music.

Also, just to correct, B8 can come in Brilliant or Traditional Finishes. B8Pro is always brilliant.

the main difference is in the hammering and lathing patterns. B8Pro tends to be on the higher pitched spectrum.

The splash and large crashes do well against a band mix.

either way, i would recommend getting a SABIAN XS20 instead.
Title: Re: pinagkaiba ngb8 at b8PRO
Post by: sonicassault on June 11, 2014, 11:40:48 AM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 11, 2014, 10:01:59 AM
might be just for your taste. B8Pro does have its uses for other types of music.

Also, just to correct, B8 can come in Brilliant or Traditional Finishes. B8Pro is always brilliant.

the main difference is in the hammering and lathing patterns. B8Pro tends to be on the higher pitched spectrum.

The splash and large crashes do well against a band mix.

either way, i would recommend getting a SABIAN XS20 instead.

Hm, di ko alam na may brilliant finish pala ang B8. I've always thought the B8Pro was the brilliant finished version, along with different hammering and lathing.

Ok ang XS20, and miles beyond the B8/Pro sonically. pero kung medyo gipit sa pera talaga, pwede na yung Stagg brand, BUT bring a drummer with you. They're handmade so the sound is inconsistent - you can get amazing cymbals or really bad ones.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bogart on October 08, 2014, 11:36:31 AM: Mga sir, asko ko lang kung may nakagamit na sa inyo ng sabian hhx 14" evolution hihats? Ok ba? Ano insights nyo mga sir? Salamat
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on October 08, 2014, 11:41:01 AM: Quote from: bogart on October 08, 2014, 11:36:31 AM
Mga sir, asko ko lang kung may nakagamit na sa inyo ng sabian hhx 14" evolution hihats? Ok ba? Ano insights nyo mga sir? Salamat

wonderful sounding hats. was able to try for 4 minutes. wala akong masabing mali except mahal siya. HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on October 09, 2014, 05:17:13 PM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on October 08, 2014, 11:41:01 AM

wonderful sounding hats. was able to try for 4 minutes. wala akong masabing mali except mahal siya. HAHAHAHAHA
nice review :lol:

BTW, yung Omni line pala may AAX din, saw Jojo Mayer play one. Para syang HHX na may butter at bacon fat.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bogart on October 09, 2014, 11:34:41 PM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on October 08, 2014, 11:41:01 AM

wonderful sounding hats. was able to try for 4 minutes. wala akong masabing mali except mahal siya. HAHAHAHAHA

Salamat mga sir! Bought it for a low price. Masubukan na nga. Haha
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on October 10, 2014, 07:51:16 AM: Quote from: bogart on October 09, 2014, 11:34:41 PM

Salamat mga sir! Bought it for a low price. Masubukan na nga. Haha

Parang alam ko kung kanino mo nabili hehe. Jackpot na nga yan.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on October 10, 2014, 10:56:27 AM: awtsu... pics pls <3
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bogart on October 10, 2014, 01:27:21 PM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on October 10, 2014, 07:51:16 AM
Parang alam ko kung kanino mo nabili hehe. Jackpot na nga yan.

Hehe. Tama ka yata sir. Dito ko binili yun.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bogart on October 10, 2014, 01:28:42 PM: Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on October 10, 2014, 10:56:27 AM

awtsu... pics pls <3

Pag uwi k maya sir, kunan ko pics. Hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: incubus_boy08 on October 10, 2014, 01:31:17 PM: Quote from: bogart on October 10, 2014, 01:28:42 PM
Pag uwi k maya sir, kunan ko pics. Hehe

Pag napangitan ka sa tunog, i-trade mo sa AAX Stage hats ko hehe.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on October 10, 2014, 01:52:04 PM: Quote from: incubus_boy08 on October 10, 2014, 01:31:17 PM
Pag napangitan ka sa tunog, i-trade mo sa AAX Stage hats ko hehe.

Pwede ring ibenta mo nalang sakin yung AAX Stage HAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pmack on January 24, 2015, 11:40:31 AM: http://www.sabian.com/en/bigugly/

I'm a Zildjian man, pero these new pies look interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on January 24, 2015, 11:08:30 PM: Quote from: pmack on January 24, 2015, 11:40:31 AM
http://www.sabian.com/en/bigugly/

I'm a Zildjian man, pero these new pies look interesting to say the least.

Pangit siya! Pangit! Hahaha! *bitter* hahaha
Joke Lang,I'm a zildjian guy as well that's been drooling at sabian pies,hehehe.
They are very nice for my taste. At syempre kerope pa din ako,hahahaha,
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 26, 2015, 11:02:42 AM: i'll be listening to these tonight! nakakacurious! :D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on January 26, 2015, 05:18:47 PM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on January 26, 2015, 11:02:42 AM
i'll be listening to these tonight! nakakacurious! :D

all i could say is they are not crashable and parang may taga meinl na pumuntang sabian,haha
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vipher on January 31, 2015, 11:48:49 PM: Mga sir . . . maganda ba sound quality ng sabian paragon series?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on February 02, 2015, 12:17:55 AM: Quote from: vipher on January 31, 2015, 11:48:49 PM
Mga sir . . . maganda ba sound quality ng sabian paragon series?

sir check mo mga demo sa youtube ng series ng cymbals na yan. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vipher on February 02, 2015, 12:52:17 AM: Quote from: harugrugrug on February 02, 2015, 12:17:55 AM
sir check mo mga demo sa youtube ng series ng cymbals na yan. :-D
sa opinion mo sir . . . maganda ba sound quality ng paragon series?

Di ko pa kasi narinig ng live eh.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on February 02, 2015, 10:54:04 AM: Quote from: vipher on February 02, 2015, 12:52:17 AM
sa opinion mo sir . . . maganda ba sound quality ng paragon series?

Di ko pa kasi narinig ng live eh.
i had a paragon crash and splash before. they were nice.

think AA pero mas may OOMPH. :) mas may balls.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: vipher on February 02, 2015, 01:47:11 PM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on February 02, 2015, 10:54:04 AM
i had a paragon crash and splash before. they were nice.

think AA pero mas may OOMPH. :) mas may balls.

ok sir . . . thanks.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on March 22, 2015, 01:38:37 PM: Quote from: harugrugrug on January 26, 2015, 05:18:47 PM
all i could say is they are not crashable and parang may taga meinl na pumuntang sabian,haha

ahaha. Oo nga eh. May touch ng Meinl yung model ng Sabian na yun. Dry yung tunog then tama nga yung sabi, hindi siya crashable.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on March 23, 2015, 09:01:57 AM: Quote from: harugrugrug on January 26, 2015, 05:18:47 PM
all i could say is they are not crashable and parang may taga meinl na pumuntang sabian,haha

crashable yan kay Bernard Purdie :lol: kung china nga ginawang main ride eh. bur srsly, crashable, to a bernard purdie level :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on March 25, 2015, 11:33:40 AM: Quote from: sonicassault on March 23, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
crashable yan kay Bernard Purdie :lol: kung china nga ginawang main ride eh. bur srsly, crashable, to a bernard purdie level :)

Hahaha! May point,gusto ko makakita ng mga gongy ride na icrash talaga like sa zildjian,yun k custom ride,hahah
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 25, 2015, 11:50:28 AM: Quote from: harugrugrug on March 25, 2015, 11:33:40 AM
Hahaha! May point,gusto ko makakita ng mga gongy ride na icrash talaga like sa zildjian,yun k custom ride,hahah

mauuna atang mabali ang wrist or stick bago magtunog crash yung Gong na yan HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on March 25, 2015, 03:45:01 PM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on March 25, 2015, 11:50:28 AM

mauuna atang mabali ang wrist or stick bago magtunog crash yung Gong na yan HAHAHAHA

Alam ko Sabian thread to, pero kung may K Heavy ride equivalent sila, himala na lang ang makapag-crash nun :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on March 27, 2015, 03:42:08 AM: fave ko yun k custom ride!
haha pero gong siya
hehe hh raw bell ride ata equivalent nung k na un,hehe
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on May 12, 2015, 10:26:02 AM: does anyone actually like the Big and Ugly series? kasi ako based sa clips trip ko sya. dry, pingy, subtle wash. sarap ibato kay bernard purdie palitan na nya yung china nya :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: zerosix on July 15, 2015, 09:55:53 AM: May fake po ba na XS20?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 15, 2015, 10:00:01 AM: Quote from: zerosix on July 15, 2015, 09:55:53 AM
May fake po ba na XS20?

yes. talamak din ang peke na AA/AAX. kung bibili ka ng bagong XS20, tbh mag Stagg SH ka na lang at least sure na hindi fake, mas ok pa tunog pag nakatsamba ka ng maganda ang hammering.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2015, 10:32:50 AM: Quote from: zerosix on July 15, 2015, 09:55:53 AM
May fake po ba na XS20?

AFAIK, AAX ang madaming peke. i've never heard of a fake XS20. makikita mo naman ynug fake, b8 bronze ang gamit, strong ang pagiging copper or brownish red color nung cymbal.

either way, safe ka sa XS20 I think. they sound decent. the hats sound awesome.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 15, 2015, 10:38:08 AM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2015, 10:32:50 AM
AFAIK, AAX ang madaming peke. i've never heard of a fake XS20. makikita mo naman ynug fake, b8 bronze ang gamit, strong ang pagiging copper or brownish red color nung cymbal.

either way, safe ka sa XS20 I think. they sound decent. the hats sound awesome.

may nakita ako na fake XS20! mukha namang B20 based sa pagka-yellow nya pero yung lathing nya tulad ng sa ultra cheap brass cymbals na malaki yung gap sa grooves, di tulad ng legit parang lathing ng B8.

ang tanong ko eh pumapantay ba yung fake AAX sa SX20 na legit? may nakita din ako ang appearance nya parang "rebadged" na XS20 in terms of lathing
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2015, 02:50:33 PM: Quote from: sonicassault on July 15, 2015, 10:38:08 AM
may nakita ako na fake XS20! mukha namang B20 based sa pagka-yellow nya pero yung lathing nya tulad ng sa ultra cheap brass cymbals na malaki yung gap sa grooves, di tulad ng legit parang lathing ng B8.

ang tanong ko eh pumapantay ba yung fake AAX sa SX20 na legit? may nakita din ako ang appearance nya parang "rebadged" na XS20 in terms of lathing

malaki din ang lathing ng xs20 na original. yung AAX na fake, alam mong B8 talaga kung drummer ka. kulay palang tska may weird hammering parts yung fake na AAX.

hindi, tunog B8 na thrashy yung pekeng AAX. maganda ang XS20. maliit lang ang bell ng ride at mahina ang crash. pero maganda ang tunog.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 15, 2015, 04:45:17 PM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2015, 02:50:33 PM
malaki din ang lathing ng xs20 na original. yung AAX na fake, alam mong B8 talaga kung drummer ka. kulay palang tska may weird hammering parts yung fake na AAX.

hindi, tunog B8 na thrashy yung pekeng AAX. maganda ang XS20. maliit lang ang bell ng ride at mahina ang crash. pero maganda ang tunog.

makabili nga ng fake AAX na china :lol:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2015, 06:26:44 PM: Quote from: sonicassault on July 15, 2015, 04:45:17 PM
makabili nga ng fake AAX na china :lol:

naisip ko rin yan hahaha kaso walang fake na AAX China. hahaha

ang hinala ko, yung fake AAX is rebadged Wuhan Pies.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 15, 2015, 06:31:41 PM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on July 15, 2015, 06:26:44 PM

naisip ko rin yan hahaha kaso walang fake na AAX China. hahaha

ang hinala ko, yung fake AAX is rebadged Wuhan Pies.

OT: may b8 alloy ang wuhan?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 16, 2015, 10:00:20 AM: Quote from: sonicassault on July 15, 2015, 06:31:41 PM
OT: may b8 alloy ang wuhan?

meron yan most probably. hindi lang iniimport. basta i think those are chinese made B8 Cymbals.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: zerosix on July 17, 2015, 01:43:47 PM: Meron kasing nagbebenta ng Xs20 set sa facebook and nandito rin sa Philmusic.
Sabi "restored" daw yung logo's. 14 hats, 18 crash, and 20 ride for 13-14k, pero last check ko nasa 12,500 na sya.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on July 20, 2015, 08:55:27 AM: Quote from: zerosix on July 17, 2015, 01:43:47 PM
Meron kasing nagbebenta ng Xs20 set sa facebook and nandito rin sa Philmusic.
Sabi "restored" daw yung logo's. 14 hats, 18 crash, and 20 ride for 13-14k, pero last check ko nasa 12,500 na sya.

meron naman talagang restored logos lalo na pag Sabian/Zildjian kasi madali mabura. tanong mo lang kung bakit ganun yung price dahil mas mura na sa market (unless sale price yung 12,500 baka nabili nya ng mas mahal), at kung saan nabili. Other than that, kailangan mo talaga makita at mapalo.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 20, 2015, 09:55:40 AM: Quote from: zerosix on July 17, 2015, 01:43:47 PM
Meron kasing nagbebenta ng Xs20 set sa facebook and nandito rin sa Philmusic.
Sabi "restored" daw yung logo's. 14 hats, 18 crash, and 20 ride for 13-14k, pero last check ko nasa 12,500 na sya.

kung legit XS20 set yan, tama ang presyo nyia kasi ang second hand na XS20 18 crash is worth 4-5k. 5-6k yung ride, so kung 12,500, murang mura na IMHO.

post mo pictures dito. tingnan natin kung legit nga.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: worthless on November 30, 2015, 01:12:15 AM: Just switched to Sabian from Stagg.

Question po, fellow Sabian users. I'm not sure if may thread na about this pero I'll give it a go.
Hoping to get answers or personal opinions from you guys.

Have you tried converting your Sabian crashes into an Ozone or EFX Cymbal- type? How was it and do holes really put more of that "China- type or trashy- ish" sound to the pie with longer sustain?

I'm thinking of customizing a crash I'm using (Sabian Pro Crash 18" - to convert it into an Ozone or EFX Cymbal), but I'm quite afraid with the risks. Therefore, your inputs about this will be very helpful. Thanks in advance guys.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on November 30, 2015, 01:43:42 AM: Yes, those holes really do add that China-like trash to any cymbal. Actually, the cheap version of getting that sound is to find a broken cymbal; same banana.

However since you're into modding the cymbal itself, it's getting the same risks as the cymbal manufacturers themselves, as they also cut holes practically the same way. Just make sure you pick a modder with a good reputation so that your cymbal won't crack easily.

FWIW I haven't had any cymbal done yet, but really the risks only increase when you entrust your cymbal to shoddy workmanship.

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Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: worthless on November 30, 2015, 11:36:33 PM: These answers are so helpful sir. Thanks a lot. I'll just work on gaining more courage for this interest and will look for the best person- company to do it for me.

Follow- up question though or more of a survey as per your experiences.
For you guys, which is way better when it comes to sound- tone quality and versatility?

Ozone AAX 16- 18" or Ozone HHX 16- 18"?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on December 01, 2015, 07:31:12 AM: Quote from: worthless on November 30, 2015, 11:36:33 PM
These answers are so helpful sir. Thanks a lot. I'll just work on gaining more courage for this interest and will look for the best person- company to do it for me.

Follow- up question though or more of a survey as per your experiences.
For you guys, which is way better when it comes to sound- tone quality and versatility?

Ozone AAX 16- 18" or Ozone HHX 16- 18"?

That would boil down to preference and the style or requirements of the music as both are quite versatile in their own right. Best you try them out if you can.

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Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on December 02, 2015, 02:54:27 AM: Quote from: worthless on November 30, 2015, 11:36:33 PM
These answers are so helpful sir. Thanks a lot. I'll just work on gaining more courage for this interest and will look for the best person- company to do it for me.

Follow- up question though or more of a survey as per your experiences.
For you guys, which is way better when it comes to sound- tone quality and versatility?

Ozone AAX 16- 18" or Ozone HHX 16- 18"?

It's been a while since I posted here. Experience-wise, maganda yung AAX 16" if you're looking at a quick and trashy, yet bright sound. Not sure kung tenga ko lang pero hindi ko gusto yung AAX Ozone 18", too boisterous IMO. maganda sa live venues pero kung closed spaces, pangit ng balik. As for the HHX pies, wala akong masasabing masama on either sizes. Tama lang yung sound niya, controlled pero may projection.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on December 02, 2015, 10:45:47 AM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on December 02, 2015, 02:54:27 AM
It's been a while since I posted here. Experience-wise, maganda yung AAX 16" if you're looking at a quick and trashy, yet bright sound. Not sure kung tenga ko lang pero hindi ko gusto yung AAX Ozone 18", too boisterous IMO. maganda sa live venues pero kung closed spaces, pangit ng balik. As for the HHX pies, wala akong masasabing masama on either sizes. Tama lang yung sound niya, controlled pero may projection.

+1 on all angles hahaha wala rin akong maipintas sa HHX.

well, mahal siya. HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: sonicassault on December 02, 2015, 11:50:58 AM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on December 02, 2015, 10:45:47 AM
+1 on all angles hahaha wala rin akong maipintas sa HHX.

well, mahal siya. HAHAHAHA

Everyone likes anything HHX :lol: except the price

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Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on December 02, 2015, 09:05:45 PM: Quote from: sonicassault on December 02, 2015, 11:50:58 AM
Everyone likes anything HHX :lol: except the price

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Pwede naman 2nd hand pies. most of my HHX's among other pies, pre-loved. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on December 03, 2015, 09:58:32 AM: Quote from: Riff_6603 on December 02, 2015, 09:05:45 PM
Pwede naman 2nd hand pies. most of my HHX's among other pies, pre-loved. :-D

at pag nagsawa ka na paps, sakin naman ha? :D HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: zwischenzug on January 26, 2016, 06:45:58 PM: Fake ba ito?
Kakabili ko lang ng Istanbul Samatya Set tapos bigla kong nakita sa Lazada ito, deym :-o :-D

http://www.lazada.com.ph/sabian-aax-stage-performance-cymbal-set-1497574.html (http://www.lazada.com.ph/sabian-aax-stage-performance-cymbal-set-1497574.html)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jckazs on January 27, 2016, 03:04:51 AM: fake yan malamang. Kahit wholesale hindi ganyan kababa presyo
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: gss on January 27, 2016, 08:22:24 AM: Quote from: zwischenzug on January 26, 2016, 06:45:58 PM
Fake ba ito?
Kakabili ko lang ng Istanbul Samatya Set tapos bigla kong nakita sa Lazada ito, deym :-o :-D

http://www.lazada.com.ph/sabian-aax-stage-performance-cymbal-set-1497574.html (http://www.lazada.com.ph/sabian-aax-stage-performance-cymbal-set-1497574.html)

Don't fret, the only thing original in the ad is the picture, you will never get a brand new real set of AAXs at that price
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on January 27, 2016, 08:28:07 AM: Quote from: zwischenzug on January 26, 2016, 06:45:58 PM
Fake ba ito?
Kakabili ko lang ng Istanbul Samatya Set tapos bigla kong nakita sa Lazada ito, deym :-o :-D

http://www.lazada.com.ph/sabian-aax-stage-performance-cymbal-set-1497574.html (http://www.lazada.com.ph/sabian-aax-stage-performance-cymbal-set-1497574.html)

there is a big chance,kasi aax ang talamak na peke,unless you the pics. may hammering ng weird yung fake na aax while smooth lathing ang orig na aax
plus the word OEM means its quite BS coz they say its original equipment manufacture but its just another term for class A
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 27, 2016, 09:11:55 AM: Quote from: zwischenzug on January 26, 2016, 06:45:58 PM
Fake ba ito?
Kakabili ko lang ng Istanbul Samatya Set tapos bigla kong nakita sa Lazada ito, deym :-o :-D

http://www.lazada.com.ph/sabian-aax-stage-performance-cymbal-set-1497574.html (http://www.lazada.com.ph/sabian-aax-stage-performance-cymbal-set-1497574.html)

lahat halos ng music stuff sa lazada, fake. or generic rebrands :| B8 rebadged to AAX lang ito paps. logo palang, mali na.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 23, 2016, 10:09:04 PM: Yung shop sa baba namin they are blowing out their Sabian cymbals. We are talking under P5K up to P8K.
Dont know what to choose. I saw rides with AA HH and made in Canada stamped and varying sizes. Original prices were P8K up to P15K.

Ill take a pic tomorrow and show you guys. I would love a nice ride for that bargain price. Also kaya kaya ng e-drum stand ang ride na mabigat?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 24, 2016, 10:34:22 AM: Quote from: pallas on May 23, 2016, 10:09:04 PM
Yung shop sa baba namin they are blowing out their Sabian cymbals. We are talking under P5K up to P8K.
Dont know what to choose. I saw rides with AA HH and made in Canada stamped and varying sizes. Original prices were P8K up to P15K.

Ill take a pic tomorrow and show you guys. I would love a nice ride for that bargain price. Also kaya kaya ng e-drum stand ang ride na mabigat?

damn son. AAs and HH pies for 8k? that's a steal! take pics paps pallas, pangpalaway lang HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:08:04 PM: Heto NA!!!! Dubidubi Dooolalala!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/shakeye/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/7878F531-669D-4A6C-B38A-7C578B0EFEB1_zpsag6oxlww.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shakeye/media/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/7878F531-669D-4A6C-B38A-7C578B0EFEB1_zpsag6oxlww.jpg.html)

I think i went overboard with the 22 inch. Lol.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 24, 2016, 12:15:16 PM: Quote from: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:08:04 PM
Heto NA!!!! Dubidubi Dooolalala!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/shakeye/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/7878F531-669D-4A6C-B38A-7C578B0EFEB1_zpsag6oxlww.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shakeye/media/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/7878F531-669D-4A6C-B38A-7C578B0EFEB1_zpsag6oxlww.jpg.html)

I think i went overboard with the 22 inch. Lol.

niceeeee looks like a signature series, im not sure. anong model nito brother? good luck sa volume! =))
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:17:10 PM: Chester Thompson daw pre. I was side by side sa 21 inch na AA heavy ride would that have been better?
They also had a HH 20 inch rock ride that i liked and a AA 20 inch extra heavy ride was also nice. By volune you mean would this 22 be too loud or soft?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 24, 2016, 12:21:14 PM: Quote from: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:17:10 PM
Chester Thompson daw pre. I was side by side sa 21 inch na AA heavy ride would that have been better?
They also had a HH 20 inch rock ride that i liked and a AA 20 inch extra heavy ride was also nice. By volune you mean would this 22 be too loud or soft?

the Signature Liquid Ride? if it is, then awesome find bro! hold on to it because that's a discontinued model!

AA 21 Raw Bell Dry Ride ang bias ko so far. then again, usually sabian cymbals at that range are always nice anman. its just a mtter of preference.

goodluck sa volume kasi sobrang lakas ng 22! :)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:30:03 PM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on May 24, 2016, 12:21:14 PM

the Signature Liquid Ride? if it is, then awesome find bro! hold on to it because that's a discontinued model!

AA 21 Raw Bell Dry Ride ang bias ko so far. then again, usually sabian cymbals at that range are always nice anman. its just a mtter of preference.

goodluck sa volume kasi sobrang lakas ng 22! :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/shakeye/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/B94EC49D-34D1-4761-98F9-DF4C6BF790BD_zpszhq5sfou.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shakeye/media/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/B94EC49D-34D1-4761-98F9-DF4C6BF790BD_zpszhq5sfou.jpg.html)
Got it for just over P10k. Good find?

Ang lakas nga haha so baka balikan ko uung iba.
21 inch HH heavy ride would this be good not too loud? P8k pricing?
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 24, 2016, 12:38:23 PM: Quote from: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:30:03 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/shakeye/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/B94EC49D-34D1-4761-98F9-DF4C6BF790BD_zpszhq5sfou.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shakeye/media/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/B94EC49D-34D1-4761-98F9-DF4C6BF790BD_zpszhq5sfou.jpg.html)
Got it for just over P10k. Good find?

Ang lakas nga haha so baka balikan ko uung iba.
21 inch HH heavy ride would this be good not too loud? P8k pricing?

very good find brother. its going around ebay for about USD 450-500. hold on to it. hahaha

HH is a dark sounding cymbal so it sounds mellower. pero heavy rides naman are loud so halos aprehas lang. my POV, keep the Liquid Ride bro!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:52:18 PM: Nice!! Thanks pre tago na ke kumander para mabalikan yung isang HH or AA.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 24, 2016, 01:05:53 PM: Quote from: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:52:18 PM
Nice!! Thanks pre tago na ke kumander para mabalikan yung isang HH or AA.

tama yan! hahaha! :D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on May 24, 2016, 10:20:06 PM: whoaaaa! liquid rideeeeeeeee.....
hello bestfriend hahaha! joke hold on to it boss. :-D
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 25, 2016, 11:05:48 AM: Quote from: harugrugrug on May 24, 2016, 10:20:06 PM
whoaaaa! liquid rideeeeeeeee.....
hello bestfriend hahaha! joke hold on to it boss. :-D

na cucurious ako sa 22 :O sarap sigurong icrash!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: dreddurius on May 25, 2016, 01:05:29 PM: Quote from: pallas on May 24, 2016, 12:30:03 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/shakeye/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/B94EC49D-34D1-4761-98F9-DF4C6BF790BD_zpszhq5sfou.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shakeye/media/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/B94EC49D-34D1-4761-98F9-DF4C6BF790BD_zpszhq5sfou.jpg.html)

I'm raping the Like button now.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 25, 2016, 02:29:55 PM: Thanks mga pre. Been incorporating it with the Edrum and man with the 200 watt amp halfway for home volume malakas pa rin yung sizzle. Nag ba vibrate yung frame he he. Should i put some tape..where to put it ..what kind of tape?

In my limited technique i tried to play it really soft and yes the sound was really nice. Cant stop doing swing rhthm on the ride. Ang lakas ng ping.

And what is a liquid ride? It doesny say but is this an HH ride as well?

Im also thinking of snagging this one. Would this be more versatile being it an AA but heavier and smaller of an (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/shakeye/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/D6541555-B9AE-4FF0-AD96-C6A15A4D35C0_zpsdwiwqilk.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shakeye/media/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/D6541555-B9AE-4FF0-AD96-C6A15A4D35C0_zpsdwiwqilk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 25, 2016, 02:42:50 PM: Quote from: pallas on May 25, 2016, 02:29:55 PM
Thanks mga pre. Been incorporating it with the Edrum and man with the 200 watt amp halfway for home volume malakas pa rin yung sizzle. Nag ba vibrate yung frame he he. Should i put some tape..where to put it ..what kind of tape?

In my limited technique i tried to play it really soft and yes the sound was really nice. Cant stop doing swing rhthm on the ride. Ang lakas ng ping.

And what is a liquid ride

yun kasi yung full name nung chester Thompson ride. Chester Thompson Signature LIQUID Ride.

you can put tape sa bottom part nung cymbal kaso yung residue though :( but duct tape and electric tape would work on the under side. amount of tape depends on amount of volume to be reduced.

do note however that it will also reduce sustain :(
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 25, 2016, 09:00:56 PM: Yup the tape residue is the issue. But man ive played it again this afternoon and my right ear is ringing. I guess i need to have a look at the other smaller ride... :eek:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on May 25, 2016, 11:57:21 PM: bro moongel para wlang residue. :-D
pwede mo din lagyan ng basahan ilalim ng bell para ala felt para madampen yung ring. ^-^
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 26, 2016, 09:44:49 AM: Quote from: harugrugrug on May 25, 2016, 11:57:21 PM
bro moongel para wlang residue. :-D
pwede mo din lagyan ng basahan ilalim ng bell para ala felt para madampen yung ring. ^-^

okay yung moongel kaso natatanggal, pero yup, no residue. yan din gamit ko hihihihi

okay rin yung cloth sa ilalim ng bell para bawas din ng ring! mabibingi ka talga jan paps! 22! hahahaha
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 26, 2016, 02:28:48 PM: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/shakeye/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/2DA982F9-C64A-4AB7-A775-D4844BD006A8_zpsiup66uuh.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shakeye/media/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/2DA982F9-C64A-4AB7-A775-D4844BD006A8_zpsiup66uuh.jpg.html)
Okay 21 inch AA heavy ride.

I opened a can of worms. Problema kasi nasa baba lang namin yung music store. I literally see
the cymbals on the display window when i water my plants in the morning...he he.

Lets try it this afternoon.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 26, 2016, 02:39:56 PM: Quote from: harugrugrug on May 25, 2016, 11:57:21 PM
bro moongel para wlang residue. :-D
pwede mo din lagyan ng basahan ilalim ng bell para ala felt para madampen yung ring. ^-^

Yung cloth lagay sa ilalim ng bell okay try ko. Thanks pre.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 26, 2016, 02:41:39 PM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on May 26, 2016, 09:44:49 AM
okay yung moongel kaso natatanggal, pero yup, no residue. yan din gamit ko hihihihi

okay rin yung cloth sa ilalim ng bell para bawas din ng ring! mabibingi ka talga jan paps! 22! hahahaha
Medyo masama na nga mukha ng katulong ko ha ha.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 26, 2016, 04:34:42 PM: Quote from: pallas on May 26, 2016, 02:28:48 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v300/shakeye/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/2DA982F9-C64A-4AB7-A775-D4844BD006A8_zpsiup66uuh.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/shakeye/media/cops/Mobile%20Uploads/2DA982F9-C64A-4AB7-A775-D4844BD006A8_zpsiup66uuh.jpg.html)
Okay 21 inch AA heavy ride.

I opened a can of worms. Problema kasi nasa baba lang namin yung music store. I literally see
the cymbals on the display window when i water my plants in the morning...he he.

Lets try it this afternoon.

putcha paps parang VCD lang binibili mo ah =)) very nice brother!
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on May 26, 2016, 09:42:11 PM: saya naman ng kapitbahay mo music store,and i know its very stressful din hahaha :cry:
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 27, 2016, 09:13:45 AM: Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci on May 26, 2016, 04:34:42 PM

putcha paps parang VCD lang binibili mo ah =)) very nice brother!

Cymbal hoard mode muna pre. try test then see pag pakawalan rin. Pero check mate na ako ni kumander sabi nya bili na daw ako ng prescription glasses kesa jan maiingay...he he.
Off ko ngayon so mag iingay ako mamaya tanghali.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pallas on May 27, 2016, 09:17:55 AM: Quote from: harugrugrug on May 26, 2016, 09:42:11 PM
saya naman ng kapitbahay mo music store,and i know its very stressful din hahaha :cry:

More on temptation pre. Ang daming bagsak presyo doon. In fact ang sama ng economy ng HK ngayon lahat bagsak presyo.
Tom Lee, Parsons, Tsang Fook. They all got sweet deals. Ang hirap matulog lately ang daming super good deals.
Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: harugrugrug on May 29, 2016, 10:40:04 PM: Quote from: pallas on May 27, 2016, 09:17:55 AM
More on temptation pre. Ang daming bagsak presyo doon. In fact ang sama ng economy ng HK ngayon lahat bagsak presyo.
Tom Lee, Parsons, Tsang Fook. They all got sweet deals. Ang hirap matulog lately ang daming super good deals.

seryoso sir? whaaa! gusto ko tuloy kumuha ng perfect balance pedal hahaha.
sana pala nagbook ako sa hk ngayon,planning to go sana next week for destress hahaha
anyway sir, good for you. sound clips na lang pag may time ka sir! :-D