TALK @ PhilMusic.com - The Online Home of the Pinoy Musician

Tech Forums => PC Tech => Topic started by: MIG AYESA on March 09, 2007, 08:28:57 PM

Title: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: MIG AYESA on March 09, 2007, 08:28:57 PM
 :evil:  Greetings!! Forumites, nasubukan nyo na ba ang overclocking?
Is it advisable?
What are the hazards of overclocking?

Pls share nyo naman ang inyong experiences sa "overclocking". Tks.!
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: dref40cc on March 10, 2007, 11:22:54 AM



  di ko pa nasubukan overclocking pero dangerous yata na mag overheat ang processor. at maari din masunog ang board kung wlang proper air ventilation o cooler.

kung masunog ang board dahil sa overclocking ay mawawala na ang kanyang warranty.  sayang naman.  para sa akin di yan maganda.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: QBERT (BERT QUITEVEZ) on March 10, 2007, 12:30:15 PM
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!!!!
DON'T EVER ATTEMPT TO OVERCLOCK YOUR CPU!!!

IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.!!!
KIDS DON'T DO THIS AT HOME!

ASIDE FROM TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, MARAMI PANG
PWEDENG MADAMAGE SA COMPUTER MO. TOO MANY TO ENUMERATE!!!
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: dref40cc on March 10, 2007, 12:48:36 PM



  makasabat nga uli kasi yung processor niya ay patatakbuhin mo nang doble ang bilis sa kanyang normal na takbo. para itong "heart "   natin.

  me risk of heart attack
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: silentspring on March 13, 2007, 10:58:11 PM
I've been running an Athlon XP 2500+ OC'ed to a 3200+ for more than 3 years now and it's been running fine.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: KitC on March 13, 2007, 11:23:54 PM
Keep it down Qbert. You're dead meat once the OC community notices this thread. Or haven't you heard what they did to Joe Bravo in the Sonar Forums?
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: soulfeather on March 14, 2007, 01:17:11 AM
Overclocking the CPU is the most common way of boosting your PC's performance in lets say about 10-15%. One way to overclock the PC is to go to the BIOS and change the Bus Speed or the Multiplier Settings of your Mobo.

Yung mga Multipliers comes in the for of X1, X1.5, X2, X2.5, etc...

Bottom line is the Final CPU speed is equal to the Bus Speed multiplied by the Multiplier (of course... hehehehe)

For example, if you have a Pentium 166MHz CPU (which is set up on a 66MHz bus speed and a multiplier setting of x2.5) you can see straight away that you only have 1 choice and that is to increase the multiplier setting tox3 to get a net speed of 200MHz!

****

Please try to learn more about your computer hardware before trying to overclock your system.
The risk of Overclocking is heating up your processor which is connected to the board, which is connected to all of your hardware...

First make sure that you have installed a bigger heatsink in your Processor and the ventilation of the PC is very good. Otherwise take one panel of the chasis and directly place a fan to maintaine proper air circulation and heat disposal in your system.

I have a lot of friends that Overclock their PC and doesn't have any problems at all.

There are also a lot of articles in the internet that suggest and teaches how to Overclock your system without pushing it to the limit.

hope this helps...  :-D
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: KitC on March 14, 2007, 02:33:54 AM
For example, if you have a Pentium 166MHz CPU (which is set up on a 66MHz bus speed and a multiplier setting of x2.5) you can see straight away that you only have 1 choice and that is to increase the multiplier setting tox3 to get a net speed of 200MHz!

I did that with my old DAW from way back. My brother was luckier with his old Celeron 300A... Today's E4300 is proving to be a present day legend for OCing.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: gjuanengo on March 18, 2007, 01:54:38 PM
Im running a Celeron D 2.4ghz all the way to 3.18Ghz.

Watercooled and maintains a stable operating temp of 50 deg Celsius.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: orangedreg_2 on March 18, 2007, 05:54:31 PM
Im running a Celeron D 2.4ghz all the way to 3.18Ghz.

Watercooled and maintains a stable operating temp of 50 deg Celsius.


now, that is what you have to consider if you want to overclock your system. How to cool it off or maintain the desirable temperature.

better check sites such as toms hardware... they have pretty cool overclocking tips there...
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: xjepoyx on March 19, 2007, 02:31:14 PM
Im an Currently running my AMD64 X2 4400+ at 3.4Ghz for a month now no problem encountered here yet coz im using a Cooler Master Eclipse HSF of my PROCS. My MOBO btw is DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-DR and my temps are still stable at 36degrees celcius
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: dantuts on March 22, 2007, 05:16:35 PM
gusto ko rin i overclock.. lahat.. memory...gpu..processor.. hehehe

mag reresearch pa ko
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: emil_murillo on March 23, 2007, 10:17:32 AM
Yup! done it with celeron chips in a pentium motherboard.  Ginagawa din ito sa mga AMD chips kaso madadali ang chips dito.  Over cooling system dapat siguro ang gamit mo sa processor to make your chips last.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: Presler on March 23, 2007, 05:54:29 PM
NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!!!!
DON'T EVER ATTEMPT TO OVERCLOCK YOUR CPU!!!

IT'S FOR YOUR OWN GOOD.!!!
KIDS DON'T DO THIS AT HOME!

ASIDE FROM TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED ENVIRONMENT, MARAMI PANG
PWEDENG MADAMAGE SA COMPUTER MO. TOO MANY TO ENUMERATE!!!

There is nothing wrong with overclocking (CPU, GPU, Memory Modules, FSB/HT) as long as you know what you are doing.  8-)
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: silentspring on March 23, 2007, 09:05:12 PM
Im an Currently running my AMD64 X2 4400+ at 3.4Ghz for a month now no problem encountered here yet coz im using a Cooler Master Eclipse HSF of my PROCS. My MOBO btw is DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-DR and my temps are still stable at 36degrees celcius

Ayos yang rig mo sir a, matanong ko lang ano video card mo ?  And anong temps inaabot ng X2 mo kapag loaded (i.e.  video convertion, audio compression, etc.) ?
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: QBERT (BERT QUITEVEZ) on March 23, 2007, 10:06:40 PM

[/quote]

There is nothing wrong with overclocking (CPU, GPU, Memory Modules, FSB/HT) as long as you know what you are doing.  8-)
[/quote]

D LANG TEMPERATURE NG CPU ANG PROBLEM SA OVERCLOCKING.
MARAMI NANG NAKA-EXPERIENCE NG HANG-UPS AND SYSTEM CRASHES WITH OVER CLOCKING.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: xjepoyx on March 24, 2007, 12:29:07 PM


D LANG TEMPERATURE NG CPU ANG PROBLEM SA OVERCLOCKING.
MARAMI NANG NAKA-EXPERIENCE NG HANG-UPS AND SYSTEM CRASHES WITH OVER CLOCKING.

FYI crashes and frozen the cpu(hangs) occurs becoz of no proper cooling system is installed during overclocking.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: xjepoyx on March 24, 2007, 12:31:31 PM
Im an Currently running my AMD64 X2 4400+ at 3.4Ghz for a month now no problem encountered here yet coz im using a Cooler Master Eclipse HSF of my PROCS. My MOBO btw is DFI Lanparty UT NF4 SLI-DR and my temps are still stable at 36degrees celcius

Ayos yang rig mo sir a, matanong ko lang ano video card mo ?  And anong temps inaabot ng X2 mo kapag loaded (i.e.  video convertion, audio compression, etc.) ?

Re Video Card: im currently using XFX 7600GT XXX version.
Re: temps. Idle : 32degrees Loaded: 38degrees
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: otep on March 24, 2007, 03:19:03 PM
try visiting www.computerforum.com

maraming thread dyan about overclocking

Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: KitC on March 24, 2007, 03:35:41 PM
D LANG TEMPERATURE NG CPU ANG PROBLEM SA OVERCLOCKING.
MARAMI NANG NAKA-EXPERIENCE NG HANG-UPS AND SYSTEM CRASHES WITH OVER CLOCKING.

Jeez! Don't you know that when Intel or AMD manufacture a batch of processor chips, it's like all of them are intended for one particular speed? Intel/AMD DO NOT have separate production lines for 3 GHz, 2.8 GHz, 2.6 GHz, 2.2 GHz, etc. For example, a particular silicon wafer will be designed for 3 GHz and the cpus that can operate, under normal operating conditions, are the ones that get sold at 3 GHz. The ones that cannot achieve those speeds are then underclocked until they hit stable operation, again under normal operating conditions. It doesn't mean those underclocked cpus cannot hit 3 GHz, you just have to push them a little harder, usually by incrementally raising their voltages. That's why most overclocking mobos have voltage tweaking features. Of course, higher voltages mean higher temps that's why you sometimes have to augment your cooling system.

If ever you have experienced instability, most likely you haven't taken voltage into account or you have pushed the cpu beyond it's capabilities. The point of overclocking is to find where a cpu becomes unstable, then back down a notch or 2 for stable operation. Don't try to spread fear through ignorance.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: soulfeather on March 24, 2007, 10:29:20 PM
D LANG TEMPERATURE NG CPU ANG PROBLEM SA OVERCLOCKING.
MARAMI NANG NAKA-EXPERIENCE NG HANG-UPS AND SYSTEM CRASHES WITH OVER CLOCKING.

Jeez! Don't you know that when Intel or AMD manufacture a batch of processor chips, it's like all of them are intended for one particular speed? Intel/AMD DO NOT have separate production lines for 3 GHz, 2.8 GHz, 2.6 GHz, 2.2 GHz, etc. For example, a particular silicon wafer will be designed for 3 GHz and the cpus that can operate, under normal operating conditions, are the ones that get sold at 3 GHz. The ones that cannot achieve those speeds are then underclocked until they hit stable operation, again under normal operating conditions. It doesn't mean those underclocked cpus cannot hit 3 GHz, you just have to push them a little harder, usually by incrementally raising their voltages. That's why most overclocking mobos have voltage tweaking features. Of course, higher voltages mean higher temps that's why you sometimes have to augment your cooling system.

If ever you have experienced instability, most likely you haven't taken voltage into account or you have pushed the cpu beyond it's capabilities. The point of overclocking is to find where a cpu becomes unstable, then back down a notch or 2 for stable operation. Don't try to spread fear through ignorance.



+10000000000  :-)
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: Presler on March 26, 2007, 12:22:07 AM

D LANG TEMPERATURE NG CPU ANG PROBLEM SA OVERCLOCKING.
MARAMI NANG NAKA-EXPERIENCE NG HANG-UPS AND SYSTEM CRASHES WITH OVER CLOCKING.

yup qbert. who mentioned anyway that temperature is the only concern whenever you overclock?

before anybody would like to try overclocking, you must at least consider the following:

1. put additional or modify the existing cooling solution. whenever you overclock your processor, consider cooling also the northbridge chip and the voltage regulators. same with the memory and the GPU. although i have a FX5500 videocard which runs on stock GPU core 270MHz and DDR RAM 333MHz in which i have successfully overclocked to GPU core 298MHz and DDR RAM 430MHz without additional cooling.

2. not all hardware are overclockable or suitable for overclocking. consider multipliers, PCI-E/AGP/RAM/FSB locks, memory timings/values/types, etc. the motherboard plays a very important here by providing the necessary and extra overclocking features. also as an example, and NVidia 6200 (128-bit) is on the NV43 GPU chip while a NVidia 6200A (64-bit) is on the NV44 GPU. you cannot overclock the latter. so you see, not al are overclockable.

3. one may need to increase the voltage requirements of the device to be overclocked for a more stable operation. some can be simply done thru the BIOS setup/software means, but others need hardware modifications like shorting/jumpering/penciling/etc. also, the powersupply unit should be able to handle the power requirements of the overclocked system.

so again, overclocking is OK as long as one knows what he is doing. then again, experts started as beginerss too.  :lol:

just remember the risks involved in the process... you tend to lessen the workable life of the device being overclocked and you would definitely lose the warranty whenever you overclock.

so... happy overclocking.  8-)
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: Schimitar on March 26, 2007, 10:40:08 AM

[/quote]

Jeez! Don't you know that when Intel or AMD manufacture a batch of processor chips, it's like all of them are intended for one particular speed? Intel/AMD DO NOT have separate production lines for 3 GHz, 2.8 GHz, 2.6 GHz, 2.2 GHz, etc.  That's why most overclocking mobos have voltage tweaking features. Of course, higher voltages mean higher temps that's why you sometimes have to augment your cooling system.

. The point of overclocking is to find where a cpu becomes unstable, then back down a notch or 2 for stable operation. Don't try to spread fear through ignorance.
[/quote]


Do you mean to say that cpu's are all the same regardless of Ghz?
And then sorted by quality control?

I'm not a computer expert but I don't think so.
Sorry.
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: KitC on March 26, 2007, 01:55:03 PM
Do you mean to say that cpu's are all the same regardless of Ghz?
And then sorted by quality control?

I'm not a computer expert but I don't think so.
Sorry.

The process of separating cpus according to their capable speeds is called binning. Read more about it here (http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/articles/show/619). What separates an Athlon from a Sempron is when the error occurs in the L2 cache, for example. (Btw, I'm a mechanical engineer... what do I know about computers?  :lol: )
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: turiguiliano on April 13, 2007, 07:36:58 AM
hardware lifespan significantly shortens.  
Title: Re: QUESTION: Have you tried Overclocking the CPU?
Post by: sjon014 on April 17, 2007, 08:38:27 PM
But not short enough to see the day it dies. CPUs have an average lifespan of 10 years. Even if you reduce its life by 20% (which is a guesstimate only), you would've already upgraded your system. Eight years ago I was running a 633mhz Celeron. (which now resides on my bag as a keychain. :-D)