Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Bammbamm on July 17, 2007, 01:15:51 PM
Bro Feed_back, bigyan mo nman sana kami ng summary kung pano mo sya ni-restore. Anu- ano yung mga parts na pinalitan mo saka magkano nagastos mo. :-)
Danda - danda!
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: malambeng25 on July 17, 2007, 01:17:31 PM
nice job bro feed_back! ang kintab a... talagang kumikinang-kinang pa!!! bilib ako sa sipag at tiyaga mo!!! :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: feed_back on July 18, 2007, 07:56:46 PM
hmmm sa hardware nya yung ibang lugs may kalawang na kaya inilipar ko dun sa hindi gaano makikita kagaya ng ilalim ng 16 side tom ko ... tapos yung ok pa dun ko nilagay sa mas visible na lugar .... taguan lang hehehe .... wala kasi ako makita na pang sonor eh order pa daw .... todo kuskos lang ng metal polish ... bout dun sa scratches ..... masilya lang ang katapat kaso mapili pala ang pintura ng drums so mas maganda kung masilya na pang bakal gamitin mo mabilis matuyo... tapos yung wrap....... vinil lang yan makikita sa inyong paboritong hardware ... ace hardware.... well in my case sa home depot ko sya nabili .... mahirap lang mag dikit lalo na dun sa bass drum 2 tao kelangan sa pag lalagay .... para walang hangin..(bubbles).... umabot ng 4 days yung pag restore ko sa drums .... dahil sa masilya ( pang kahoy kasi ginamit ko nung una )... umabot ng around 5k lahat ng nagastos ko ... not bad diba .... hehehehe ... nga pala wag kayo ma tempt na gumamit ng formica oo mas matibay sya kaso mahirap mag butas hehehe aabutin ka ng syam syam ... yun lang po tnx
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: malambeng25 on July 19, 2007, 04:18:36 AM
haha!!! natawa ako dun sa "taguan" part ng kwento mo kapatid!!! pero, bilib pa rin ako sa sipag. talagang sulit na sya sa 5k... nagmukhang 50k yung drumset!!! i'm sure a lot of pinoydrummers will be interested in restoring their old kits after your detailed explanation. Well done kapatid!!! happy drumming!!! :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Bammbamm on July 19, 2007, 11:28:05 AM
Thanks for sharing, bro feed_back. Galing naman, 5k lang, ang laki na ng pinagbago. kudos, braderr! :-)
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: feed_back on July 19, 2007, 02:18:10 PM
maraming salamat sa pag tangkilik hehehehe
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: wax_static on July 29, 2007, 09:35:51 PM
hmm... some restoration done on old yamaha toms (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/wax_static/yamaha2.jpg) (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/wax_static/yamaha1.jpg)
eto na cya ngayon... 12X9, 13X10, 14X,11 and 14X14
I decided to keep the old wrap since ok pa naman... konting Wipe Out cleaner lang... hehehehe, then I had all lugs, hoops, and mounts powder coated... yun nga lang yung lugs nag karoon ng reaction sa powdercoating.. ayun naging wrinkle finish tuloy yung lugs... hehehe.. but ok naman...
BTW... I'll be selling pala yung 14X14 ( hehehe sabay ganun) post ko na lang sa classifieds....
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on July 29, 2007, 11:00:40 PM
great work brother Wax! I love it! :lol:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: feed_back on July 29, 2007, 11:29:56 PM
sir ano size nyang mga toms mo parang halos mag kasing laki sila ah ..... sana may pera na ako mabili ko yang 14 mo love it grrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: bangbus on July 30, 2007, 12:44:26 AM
3. Double Bass Setup last year: For once, naging-"feeling" ako, it was just a phase, im done with it and I've come to terms with the fact that it's not really for me.
Click me for more details, history, pics and specs, [will update soon] (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,17360.315.html)
it really takes a while before one gets used to or finds his preferred configuration. I'm comfy on my current arrangement however I believe its still an ongoing experiment--a lifelong journey of discovery. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: wax_static on July 30, 2007, 01:21:26 AM
thanks Akira... my daughter loves them too.. heheheh
actually si Paolo aka peeves nag suggest nung color... heheheh you can never go wrong with black talaga... hehehe
@feedback
hehehehe 12,13,14 yan... kaya parang mag kakasing laki..
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: malambeng25 on July 30, 2007, 02:49:53 AM
@wax static - bro, nice job!!! parang brand new na!!! parang vinnie coliauta na gretsch yung effect!!! mismo!!!
@bangbus - bro jun, kung wala kang paglalagyan ng extra kit mo, dito na lang sa bahay!!! hehe!!! nakita ko na naman yung bp snares mo... :evil: idol!!!
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on July 30, 2007, 02:56:20 AM
@bangbus..bro Jun anong jungle acrylic yan? Kamulha ng kay Peeves ah.. :-o
ganda talaga ng kit mo kapatid! :lol:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: peeves24 on July 30, 2007, 01:06:31 PM
gawa ko kasi yun :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: wax_static on July 30, 2007, 08:08:02 PM
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: bangbus on August 08, 2007, 09:52:54 PM
@beng: the acrylic kit will go to my local church pag natapos na yung construction, yung extra amber kick is actually for sale at my for sale thread, yung bp will remain by my bedside when not in use. regards bro. :-)
@akira: yep dude, made by the Philippines' one and only custom drum guru Peeves24! thanks for the appreciation brother. :-)
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: bulog on September 13, 2007, 03:49:47 PM
Last Sat, may nabili ako na drumset. Sa ebay ko ito nakita. A Powerbeat 5 piece drum set, with heavy duty Fernando hat stand and GIBRALTAR boom stand and all REMO heads for 4,500 php lang (swerte ko, mura)
THen naisipan kong i-restore. Pinalitan ko yung drum wrap ng vinyl (c/o ACE Hardware) and yung hoops and lugs di ko na pina-powder coat (mahal at layo e) spray paint na glossy lang ginamit ko.
Eto sya dati: (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/powerbeat.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/new5.jpg)
Process ng pagkabit at papinta: (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/new3.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/new4.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/new2.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/new.jpg)
Eto na sya ngayon:
Changed the head, yung REMO pinstripe ginawa kong resonant, then bumili ako ng LAZER double ply black heads para sa batter. (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/lazer1.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/lazer2.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/lazer3.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/lazer4.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/lazer5.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/lazer6.jpg) (http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/bulog/lazer7.jpg)
Bagay na bagay sa PDP 805 ko hehe.
I'm so proud of this new baby of mine.
Got myself a hi-hat na rin for 4k (Sabian XS20, super bago pa...as in hehe)
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: kimboy on September 13, 2007, 03:57:19 PM
nice ang ganda.. black ba talaga yun pinstripe o pinintahan mo lang din? thx
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: bulog on September 13, 2007, 04:40:39 PM
nice ang ganda.. black ba talaga yun pinstripe o pinintahan mo lang din? thx
Yung REMO pinstripe sir nasa ilalim na po. Yung black heads ay LAZER double ply heads po yun
Thanks
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: behave_blue on September 13, 2007, 04:52:03 PM
@bulog
bro....pinatungan mo lang ba ng spray paint ung chrome ng lugs tsaka ng hoops?
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: metalmuhlisha on September 13, 2007, 08:39:08 PM
@bulog kumusta naman yung tunog ng lazer heads? thanks.
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 13, 2007, 09:05:04 PM
Great work Bulog! I love what you have done to your kit! :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: bluz_boi on September 13, 2007, 10:32:40 PM
ganda.. may talent ka bulog!! :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: fouljan on September 13, 2007, 11:51:34 PM
@ bulog...
sir... hindi ba mbilis mabakbak yung spray paint? base kasi sa experience ko, di tumatagal yung spray paint e... kaya pinapowdercoat kna lang yung mga lugs and hoops ko sa una kong kit...... (nabili ni sir balta) :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: bulog on September 14, 2007, 09:18:38 AM
bro....pinatungan mo lang ba ng spray paint ung chrome ng lugs tsaka ng hoops?
Yes Sir pinatungan ko lang po, nung una kasi parang experiment lang kung kakapit yung spray paint sa chrome...so far okay naman. Tagal nga lang matuyo.
@bulog kumusta naman yung tunog ng lazer heads? thanks.
Okay naman tunog nya, medyo mabilis lang mag decay yung tunog. Gaya ng sabi ni Sir Feedback, pag sa outdoor di applicable ito, pero in door or studio okay na okay ang sustain and tunog. Thanks
Great work Bulog! I love what you have done to your kit! :-D
Salamat po Sir MOD, actually ganito din yung first drumset ko na binenta sa church. Then naisipan kong baguhin yung hitsura...so far nagandahan din talaga ako ng husto sa kinalabasan.
sir... hindi ba mbilis mabakbak yung spray paint? base kasi sa experience ko, di tumatagal yung spray paint e... kaya pinapowdercoat kna lang yung mga lugs and hoops ko sa una kong kit...... (nabili ni sir balta) :-D
Nung medyo basa pa sya, madaling matanggal, kaya inulit ko yung ibang parts na nabakbak, pinatuyo ko for 1 day. Then nung ina-aasemble ko na, takot ko bka sumama yung paint sa pagpunas at pag install ko. So far di naman po, ingat lang ako baka mabangga or magasgas, sure na matatanggal ito. Layo po kasi at magastos kung pa-powder coat ko. Hintayin ko lang po kung hanggang kailan mag stay yung paint. Thanks din
Eto pa po more pic, medyo malinaw ng konti hehe. Kasama na rin yung hi-hat na nabili ko kahapon. (I'll vote for New Beat pa rin, pero okay na rin itong XS20)
need tips sa pag-cover ng drums.. ang dami kong nasayang na wrap dahil sa pagcover ng floor tom. lagi kasing may bubbles :x
Lazer heads po, yung mga 2 ply heads na black from 350 to 550 php yung toms and 980 php yung bass drum head.
Thanks po hehe.
Yung bubbles, wag mo po tanggalin lahat sa backing yung sticker. Me style po kasi dyan pero di ko ma-elaborate through typing. Parang mag peel ka muna ng kaunti sa sticker. Then dikit mo yung unang portion (make sure na pantay), saka mo gamitan ng squigee paikot (gulo ba hehe)...sorry hirap explain e.
gnda ng kit mo sir bulog! galing kainggit hehe :-D
Thanks Sir, wag po kau inggit hehe, mas hi-end pa rin drums nyo, nadala lan po sa hitsura yung drumset ko. Pero okay na rin sakin tunog nito, medyo bitin lang ako sa floor tom, kulang sa sustain, gawa po nung LAZER heads. Pero so far, so good po.
Salamat sa inyo
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: boypalo on September 21, 2007, 12:37:00 AM
ako din pa share kahit d kagandahan :-D (http://photos.friendster.com/photos/71/04/8154017/1_911110814l.jpg) (http://photos.friendster.com/photos/71/04/8154017/1_447228483l.jpg) (http://photos.friendster.com/photos/71/04/8154017/1_874310770l.jpg) (http://photos.friendster.com/photos/71/04/8154017/1_518845817l.jpg) (http://photos.friendster.com/photos/71/04/8154017/1_744350866l.jpg) (http://photos.friendster.com/photos/71/04/8154017/1_676051587l.jpg)
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 21, 2007, 01:06:06 AM
Great job boypalo! :-D
I like your motif, I have snare it that color combination too..
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: boypalo on September 22, 2007, 01:05:12 AM
hehe. tnx sir akira. pero mejo palpak kc natutuklap ung pintura pag nakakaskas. spray paint lng kc gamit ko. sinubukan ko lng kung bagay. pag kaya powdercoat d mababakbak agad?
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 22, 2007, 04:39:49 AM
Yes powder coating is definitely more durable. :wink:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: RazeLJoeY on October 04, 2007, 07:12:46 PM
mahirap magrestore ng set, kelangan matyaga.. pero pagnatapos mo naman, sarap ng pakiramdam!! :evil:
GOODLUCK sa mga magrerestore! kaya nyo yan!! :wink:
Title: Re: Re: Drum Restoration Thread
Post by: tagz on July 12, 2008, 05:15:49 PM
POWERBEAT nga pala yang set, pinagtyagaan ko lang ayusin.. hehe
Title: Re: Re: Drum Restoration Thread
Post by: tamb0lista on July 14, 2008, 04:39:12 PM
mga ser..tanong lng..san po b nkakabili ng vinyl n prang wood finish..meron po b nun s handyman or s ace???balak ko kc aucn ung drumset ko..nabubulok lng s bahay e..hehehe...salamat po.. :-D
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Title: Re: Re: Drum Restoration Thread
Post by: tagz on July 19, 2008, 10:58:49 AM
ACE bro! :-D
Title: Re: Re: Drum Restoration Thread
Post by: manongfred on September 23, 2008, 10:15:55 PM
ey guys meron ba kayong experience sa pag ayos ng bass drum? plan ko kasi ala pimp my ride eh.. d y know where i can get lugs and stuff? ill post a pic of the "project" :-) maybe may suggestions kayo..
Title: Re: Re: Drum Restoration Thread
Post by: thunder_god on September 24, 2008, 01:05:10 AM
according to previous threads, oxalic is effective in remving rust and stains from chrome HW.
Title: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: irajames on September 10, 2009, 11:44:16 AM
Hey guys I'm gonna paint my old fernando drums (I was inspired by http://guerrilladrummaking.com/ :-D) so ngayon, I'm gonna go to Ace hardware at titingnan ko kung magkano magagastos ko sa pag bili ng spray paint. Then after ko i paint ung shells, i'm gonna clean the lugs and hoops and other parts using WD40 and steel wool pero kung hindi ko ma sesave ung rusted parts, i'm gonna buy new ones. Tapos mag papagawa ako ng Custom bass reso head and drum badges kay sir rrkkxx :-D.
This is my drumkit right now. I replaced all the wraps with the Vinyl wraps that i bought from Ace Hardware pero i'm not satisfied with it so i'm gonna resort to spray painting my kit. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/spectre261/100_4450.jpg)
This gonna be a fun project and I'm gonna post all updates, pictures and other stuff in this thread. Stay tuned! :-D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: rokrjim on September 10, 2009, 01:02:27 PM
sige. abangan natin to :D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: NiardicA on September 10, 2009, 07:29:06 PM
wag ka sa ACE or Handyman bumili ng Spray paints... mahal
sa hardwares or auto supply ka bumili para mas cheaper..... I my self did a repainting job on my kit.... (http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t210/UpGrade_2007/IMG00085-20090708-1307.jpg)
the bass on your right used to be blue... and the lugs a oval shaped.. now paired with the Ludwig kit... thats 7 coats of paints (used Primer, Flat white, Gloss white and Clear)
1st coat - Primer Gray 2nd-3rd coat - Flat white-in order na kumapit yung next coat 4th-5th coat - gloss white 6th-7th coat - Clear finish
and viola!!! finished product...
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: road dogg on September 10, 2009, 07:38:36 PM
:evil:ASTIG!!! :evil:
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: NiardicA on September 10, 2009, 07:40:59 PM
wag ka sa ACE or Handyman bumili ng Spray paints... mahal
sa hardwares or auto supply ka bumili para mas cheaper..... I my self did a repainting job on my kit.... (http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t210/UpGrade_2007/IMG00085-20090708-1307.jpg)
the bass on your right used to be blue... and the lugs a oval shaped.. now paired with the Ludwig kit... thats 7 coats of paints (used Primer, Flat white, Gloss white and Clear)
1st coat - Primer Gray 2nd-3rd coat - Flat white-in order na kumapit yung next coat 4th-5th coat - gloss white 6th-7th coat - Clear finish
and viola!!! finished product...
your efforts are very much applauded! napakaganda ng outcome bro! :wink:
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: kino on September 10, 2009, 08:44:43 PM
wag ka sa ACE or Handyman bumili ng Spray paints... mahal
sa hardwares or auto supply ka bumili para mas cheaper..... I my self did a repainting job on my kit.... (http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t210/UpGrade_2007/IMG00085-20090708-1307.jpg)
the bass on your right used to be blue... and the lugs a oval shaped.. now paired with the Ludwig kit... thats 7 coats of paints (used Primer, Flat white, Gloss white and Clear)
1st coat - Primer Gray 2nd-3rd coat - Flat white-in order na kumapit yung next coat 4th-5th coat - gloss white 6th-7th coat - Clear finish
and viola!!! finished product...
very impressive work bro! galing! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v665/eatag08/Smileys/smiley-face-hoorah.gif)
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: irajames on September 10, 2009, 09:19:30 PM
nice! thanks for the tip bro! :D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: drumachine on September 10, 2009, 10:48:19 PM
hindi ba madaling magchip yun bro? balak ko din kasi eh. sa lugs at iba pang hardware . tapos papa-powdercoat ko yung hoops.
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: NiardicA on September 11, 2009, 08:46:35 AM
hindi ba madaling magchip yun bro? balak ko din kasi eh. sa lugs at iba pang hardware . tapos papa-powdercoat ko yung hoops.
hindi sya madaling mag chip off... since 7 coats sya...... and I forgot to mention that ni-liha ko pa pala muna yung bass before applying the paints, its much better to apply paint that way... even sa lugs, lihain mo muna para yung chrome part gumaspang para kumapit ang primer paint.... sa hoops power coating talaga dapat dyan, because lagi syang tatamaan ng stick, mag chip off ang paint kapag spray paints lang...
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: unnailed on September 11, 2009, 09:40:39 AM
nice... post nyo pag tapos na yung mga kits nyo huh... :-D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: migly129111 on September 11, 2009, 09:57:49 AM
Hey guys I'm gonna paint my old fernando drums (I was inspired by http://guerrilladrummaking.com/ :-D) so ngayon, I'm gonna go to Ace hardware at titingnan ko kung magkano magagastos ko sa pag bili ng spray paint. Then after ko i paint ung shells, i'm gonna clean the lugs and hoops and other parts using WD40 and steel wool pero kung hindi ko ma sesave ung rusted parts, i'm gonna buy new ones. Tapos mag papagawa ako ng Custom bass reso head and drum badges kay sir rrkkxx :-D.
This is my drumkit right now. I replaced all the wraps with the Vinyl wraps that i bought from Ace Hardware pero i'm not satisfied with it so i'm gonna resort to spray painting my kit. (http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/spectre261/100_4450.jpg)
This gonna be a fun project and I'm gonna post all updates, pictures and other stuff in this thread. Stay tuned! :-D
TAKOT KC AKONG GALAWIN ANG KIT KO FOR REPAIRS PERO YOU INSPIRED ME! AABANGAN KO UPDATES MO.
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: kintosh on September 11, 2009, 10:12:00 AM
Abangan ko din to! Kung kaya update mo din kami sa gastos mo... hehe!
Madami ka matutulungan at maiinspire. :D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: rokrjim on September 11, 2009, 01:02:50 PM
nice job sa repaint. bilib ako. parang yung set na ginamit ni lars justice :D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: NiardicA on September 11, 2009, 07:41:17 PM
gastos effect ng double bass set up ko...
since kung mapapasin nyo walang Straight Stand yung kit...
I traded it to the Bass (LA Drums) so generic lang....
then
bought 1 - Primer Gray, 1 - Gloss White, 1 - Flat White, 1 - Clear that cost P450
bought lugs at Lazer cost me around P1200
since di pa tapos yung bass, as you can see yung spur generic parin, P1100 pair ng spur that will correspond with the Ludwig spur, ala pa pera pambili eh, need to buy:
heavy duty stands 3 more 18" crashes 1 - China cymbal Tom Rack Stand 16x18 Floor tom Fernando Single Pedal to finish this project..
magastos maging drummer talaga mga brothers
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: pedros_canabis on September 11, 2009, 08:00:21 PM
Sinabi mo Sir. Mahal talaga magrestore ng kit pero masaya in the end. Konting tiyaga lang. Hindi pa rin ako tapos sa pagrerestore at madami pang kelangan na hardwares. Planning also to change every lugs.
Eto yun dati (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/pedros_canabis/P3.jpg)
Eto na siya ngaun (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/pedros_canabis/IMG-1.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/pedros_canabis/IMG_0473.jpg)
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: rokrjim on September 11, 2009, 08:57:34 PM
ganda ng pagka-restore ah. parang bago :D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: paeng16 on September 12, 2009, 10:23:45 AM
oks yung paint job ah!!
pero ayaw nyo ba ng kakaibang paint job? like Tiger Stipes, camo, hulk inspired drum set, etc., Tutal if you mess up naman, you can always repaint it na din diba!! :lol:
Yun ang ASTIG!! hehehe...
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: dabomb on September 12, 2009, 10:33:50 AM
pagkatapos mong i repaint pa airbrush mo ng gusto mong design ...mmmmmmmmm sweet..
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: paeng16 on September 12, 2009, 10:51:26 AM
pagkatapos mong i repaint pa airbrush mo ng gusto mong design ...mmmmmmmmm sweet..
oh diba!!! tutal pag sablay pwede mo naman ulit ulitin eh!! :-D (lalo na kung hindi kamahalan yung item na paglalaruan mo!) hahahaha... Pero kung tamang MAPLE SHELLS or mga signature items... well... isip ka muna ng 100X bago mo gawin... hahahha..
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 12, 2009, 11:43:13 AM
Sinabi mo Sir. Mahal talaga magrestore ng kit pero masaya in the end. Konting tiyaga lang. Hindi pa rin ako tapos sa pagrerestore at madami pang kelangan na hardwares. Planning also to change every lugs.
Eto yun dati (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/pedros_canabis/P3.jpg)
Eto na siya ngaun (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/pedros_canabis/IMG-1.jpg) (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p26/pedros_canabis/IMG_0473.jpg)
VERY NICE JOB! Mind sharing to other forumers on how you did it? it would help out a lot.. thanks! :wink:
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: pedros_canabis on September 12, 2009, 12:45:58 PM
Thanks. At first, stripping the vinyl cover. Medyo mahirap pero tiyaga lang. Yung vent grommet, sisirain tlaga dahil you can't strip the vinyl cover with the grommet still intact. I used a hair blower para mas madaling maitanggal yun cover. Tiyaga lang sa pagtatanggal at dahan-dahan lang para di gaanong masira yun wood. After stripping, needs to sand before applying primer coating. I did put some wood putty to get rid of some blemishes sa wood. After 1-2 coats of primer, kelangan pa din isand. In between applying coats, it really needs sanding. After primer, applying the paint color you prefer. I used lacquer paint (Pylox spray paint) because I don't have the tools like spray gun and compressor for painting. The fade effect, it needs a skilled hand, and mine is crappy. When your satisfied with the color you want, it's time for the clear coating. In between clear coats, again may sanding process pa din. Applied 2 coats of clear before sanding. Mind you, after applying the clear coats, I have to dry the paint for at least 1-2 days before sanding. Sanding it, starts from a coarser grit sandpaper down to a finer grit (600 - 2000 grit). And when I sand the coats, I also used water para mas madali at madulas ang pagsasand. Ang iba, gumagamit pa ng soap. Di pa pwedeng ilagay ang mga lugs and hardwares after sanding. After 1 month pa bago ilagay mga parts, they call it curing stage. The inner ply of the shell, I applied wood stain, dahil di din ganun kaganda yun shell. Pero kung maganda naman yun shell at maple siya, malamang di ko na siya ginalaw. :wink: Did all of these processes sa 3 shells I have. Mahal grabe, pero tiyaga lang talaga. Ang importante basta happy kayo sa pagrerestore ng kit kahit matagal siyang gawin. Nakuha ko lang din idea sa isa din forumer dito and reading sa mga forums on how to restore your drumkit. With regards sa sound it will produce, satisfied naman din ako, observe ko din namn ay medyo, konting improve yun sound. Depende na lang din sa heads and tuning you prefer pati na din sa bearing edges.
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: pedros_canabis on September 12, 2009, 05:49:47 PM
ako lang ba o nilagyan mo ng fade? if so..ang galing! :-D
Nilagyan ko po Sir ng fade. Gusto ko sana ng burst pero parang diskompyado ako sa kamay ko. :-) Tatlong kulay ang gagamitin. Pagnagkamali, have to sand it down sa umpisa. Naalala ko, nun nagkamali ako sa pagpintura ng fade effect, nun hindi ko nagustuhan, sinand ko agad after painting without waiting it to dry. Ayun, parang ngsmudge pa un paint. Para siyang rubbery texture nun sinasand ko na mas lalo pang pumangit. :oops: Kaya, lesson learned, wait till the paint dries before sanding. :-) I chose a dark color for fade effect close to to the primary color. Crappy talaga ang itsura but thats the closest thing I can do. :oops: The shells are an old Yupangco MusicMate 90's circa.
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: drumachine on September 13, 2009, 03:09:42 PM
ganda ng pagkafade bro. gusto ko sana gawin sa kit ko kaso mas trip ko sa mejo mid-end na kits na lang apag nag-upgrade ako.
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: taiga_aisaka on September 13, 2009, 06:39:58 PM
Question po matagal ko na tong balak, gusto kong pinturahan ng itim yung hardware ng kit ko yung matte ang dating kasi kalawang na, ok ba ang spray paint? sabi ng friend ko wag daw i-WD40 ba yun nalang daw pero parang maganda kasi pag itim won't have to keep it shiny&clean all the time diba. What would you suggest na magandang paint? And how to do it right, like anung prep ang gagawin. Maraming salamat sa sasagot ng tanong ko 8-) Eto po sya:
Question po matagal ko na tong balak, gusto kong pinturahan ng itim yung hardware ng kit ko yung matte ang dating kasi kalawang na, ok ba ang spray paint? sabi ng friend ko wag daw i-WD40 ba yun nalang daw pero parang maganda kasi pag itim won't have to keep it shiny&clean all the time diba. What would you suggest na magandang paint? And how to do it right, like anung prep ang gagawin. Maraming salamat sa sasagot ng tanong ko 8-) Eto po sya:
Hwag mo nang pinturahan... masira mo pa yan!! :lol: :-D maganda naman ang STOCK look ah!!! Hwag na men... Pearl naman set mo eh... oks na yan..
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: pedros_canabis on September 21, 2009, 09:17:41 PM
Plan to change all the lugs. Awaiting for the heads I ordered sa ibang bansa. Pati din mga plato, sana may pera na. :-D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: irajames on September 21, 2009, 09:34:15 PM
that's a nice kit!
oh btw update ko sa project ko. I'm gonna have someone else to paint my kit for me. pero ung colors ako na bahala. i'm thinking about white and black burst. :D
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: pedros_canabis on September 21, 2009, 09:45:44 PM
Ayus yan Sir. If you have the bucks to pay for the labor, ok lang. 8-)
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: drumachine on September 22, 2009, 01:43:35 AM
galing guys! clapclap! working na din ako sa kit ko. pero wrap lang. wood stain ba yung inner side sir pedros?
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: pedros_canabis on September 22, 2009, 07:40:42 AM
oh btw update ko sa project ko. I'm gonna have someone else to paint my kit for me. pero ung colors ako na bahala. i'm thinking about white and black burst. :D
Fruit burst colors po!! Mas ok!! :-D :lol:
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: popsicle on September 24, 2009, 10:32:18 AM
nakakainggit naman! gusto ko rin gawin sa kit ko yan! kaso malaking gastos i think???
Malaking gastos Sir. Naghihingalo na pitaka ko. :cry:
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: josh17 on September 30, 2009, 09:27:52 AM
kelangan ba tatangalin k0 ung vinyl para marepaints sya ? hndi ba sya magmumukang pinunturahan lang na kahoy? pano ko ba mafifinish ng maganda ano2 kailangnan kong spray paint? mai kailangan bakong ipatong ? sa kahoy ng snare ko ?
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: irajames on September 30, 2009, 07:09:31 PM
kelangan ba tatangalin k0 ung vinyl para marepaints sya ? hndi ba sya magmumukang pinunturahan lang na kahoy? pano ko ba mafifinish ng maganda ano2 kailangnan kong spray paint? mai kailangan bakong ipatong ? sa kahoy ng snare ko ?
Yes tangalin mo ung wrap. hindi didikit ng matagal ung paint dun.
sa pag paint naman, first apply primer, tapos glossy (spray) paint. gawin mong multiple layers para makintab.
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: Riff_6603 on September 30, 2009, 07:11:01 PM
kelangan ba tatangalin k0 ung vinyl para marepaints sya ? hndi ba sya magmumukang pinunturahan lang na kahoy? pano ko ba mafifinish ng maganda ano2 kailangnan kong spray paint? mai kailangan bakong ipatong ? sa kahoy ng snare ko ?
YUP! kailangan mo tanggalin ung vinyl bro.. paints that are wood compatible magandang gamitin or better yet wood stain or tung oil meron sa wilcon.. tapos lacquer coating para kumintab and your all set.. :wink:
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: josh17 on September 30, 2009, 08:52:57 PM
guys pwedi bang ipost nu dto un materials na kailangan at kung san nabibili salamt
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: pedros_canabis on September 30, 2009, 10:12:48 PM
kelangan ba tatangalin k0 ung vinyl para marepaints sya ? hndi ba sya magmumukang pinunturahan lang na kahoy? pano ko ba mafifinish ng maganda ano2 kailangnan kong spray paint? mai kailangan bakong ipatong ? sa kahoy ng snare ko ?
Yes, kelangan tanggalin ang vinyl wrap. I used a hair blower para lang lumambot yun glue that's sticking the vinyl wrap sa wood. Dahan-dahan lang sa pagtanggal para di masyadong ma-chip off yun wood. After stripping, sand the wood in preparation for applying the primer coat. It's your desire to choose from lacquer or polyurethane, and never apply lacquer to polyurethane or vice versa because there will be a reaction. I chose lacquer as primer, the color finish down to the clear coat.
Materials used: wood putty, different grits of sand paper, sand block, masking tape, lacquer spray paint (Pylox spray cans) - primer, chosen color and clear coat, Zar wood stain for the inner ply. You can buy these on different DIY shops (ACE hardwares, True Value, Wilcon, etc..)
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: josh17 on September 30, 2009, 10:18:26 PM
dami palang gastos tatry ko to ahha sana maging succesful ako sa gagawin ko dude thx man sa mga advice nyo
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: unnailed on September 30, 2009, 11:24:52 PM
post nyo na lang pag tapos na...
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: arien_drummer on October 01, 2009, 08:45:36 PM
mga sir... any tips on painting the hardware (lugs, hoops, tuning rods, mounts) to make them stand out with different colors..
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: irajames on October 01, 2009, 08:51:00 PM
mga sir... any tips on painting the hardware (lugs, hoops, tuning rods, mounts) to make them stand out with different colors..
Well paint will easily chip off from hardware especialy in the hoops because you sometimes hit them with the sticks. I suggest that you have them powder coated.
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 02, 2009, 07:55:38 PM
Well paint will easily chip off from hardware especialy in the hoops because you sometimes hit them with the sticks. I suggest that you have them powder coated.
yup, meron sa may versa powdercoating.. ask peeves na lang sa location.. :wink:
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: arien_drummer on October 03, 2009, 07:19:39 AM
magkakanu naman powder coating? sana medyo mura... hehehe. pag tinaaman ko yung hoop (pero powdercoated) mag chichip ba yung paint?
Title: Re: repainting my drumkit. (planning stage)
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 03, 2009, 12:11:56 PM
magkakanu naman powder coating? sana medyo mura... hehehe. pag tinaaman ko yung hoop (pero powdercoated) mag chichip ba yung paint?
mura lang around 30php sa hoops and lugs, sa shells di ko matandaan.. prices might have significantly increased ever since then siguro pero hindi naman lalagpas un ng 100php.. paint MIGHT chip, due to significant wear and tear and time itself, these are great factors to consider din.. :wink:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: pedros_canabis on October 22, 2009, 12:49:58 AM
Just browsing and accidentally found this.... Check the link
nice find! this would be of great help to those who want to refinish their kits in the future. :wink:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: drumachine on October 22, 2009, 01:32:39 AM
applicable lang sa mga magaganda yung shells. haha. di pwede sa generic ko to.
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: jazon31 on November 02, 2009, 08:01:29 PM
astig pare
very creative :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: acazurin10 on November 04, 2009, 11:37:06 PM
I got my pearl export series like this tapos i accidentaly damaged the head of my 12" tom when i was playing kaya natira yung 13" tom nalang...but of course i restored my kit and bought some additions...kaya ok na sya...
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 05, 2009, 08:16:06 PM
sir, sa coating ba eh kailangan bang tanggalin pa yung wrap sa toms? or kahit hindi na?
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: drumachine on November 05, 2009, 09:22:08 PM
anung klaseng coating bro? kung paint, the answer is yes. para kumapit talaga. mas makapit ang paint sa wood. basta make sire wala na yung mga sticky residue nung wraps.
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: pauldavid_7 on November 05, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
sa Metal snare? ano ma rerecommend para pagandahin?
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: sjon014 on November 05, 2009, 09:55:19 PM
Pagandahin aesthetically?
Re-chrome! But that would probably be very expensive. Powder coating, pwede rin.
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: pauldavid_7 on November 05, 2009, 09:56:44 PM
di ko alam yung term.. hahah! kasi walng ka design design.. help wala akong knowledge dito :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: kino on November 05, 2009, 10:01:31 PM
pa airbrush mo kung gusto mo lagyan ng design. :)
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: pauldavid_7 on November 05, 2009, 10:07:29 PM
Lupit ng snares nyan, 2 o 3 warlord ata, maple,bubinga at stainless ata. OT nasa sg ka din ba?
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: wilpredo on November 06, 2009, 04:55:54 AM
sali din ako, naawa kasi ako sa snare ko na nakatago lang at di nagagamit kaya binigyan ko ng konting pagmamahal hehe bumili lang ako ng sticker vinyl sa ace hardware tapos matinding kuskusan sa mga hoops, eto sila pero kulang pa ng powder coat sa hoops and bagong tension rods tapos 42's na snare wire :-D
Fernando (http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/66/DSC01482.JPG?et=PVmyayuPGGbiVRIysApNZw&nmid=9187545) (http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/67/DSC01484.JPG?et=MtgVlrp7bjh7d7%2CnIc5SxA&nmid=9187545)
sali din ako, naawa kasi ako sa snare ko na nakatago lang at di nagagamit kaya binigyan ko ng konting pagmamahal hehe bumili lang ako ng sticker vinyl sa ace hardware tapos matinding kuskusan sa mga hoops, eto sila pero kulang pa ng powder coat sa hoops and bagong tension rods tapos 42's na snare wire :-D
Fernando (http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/66/DSC01482.JPG?et=PVmyayuPGGbiVRIysApNZw&nmid=9187545) (http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/67/DSC01484.JPG?et=MtgVlrp7bjh7d7%2CnIc5SxA&nmid=9187545)
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on November 07, 2009, 11:02:40 PM
makikisali lang po
from this: (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure838-5.jpg)
to this: (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure842-6.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure844-3.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure850-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: wilpredo on November 08, 2009, 06:50:21 AM
Sir, so yung vinyl sticker pinatong mo lang straight sa steel shell?
Di ba nagbago tunog?
bro yung sa fernando brass shell, pinatong ko straight yung vynil kasi wala naman kalawang. yung mga nakikita mo sa pic, stains lang yan kaya ok patungan.
yung sa sonor niliha ko muna yung shell. as you can see in the pics, ang daming dotted parts kalawang yan. kinuskos ko ng maigi tapos binabad ko sa wd40. after nun ni-wrap ko na using the sticker vynil. mejo nakakapagod lang mag-wrap kasi mayat-maya may bubbles na lumalabas, matrabaho magtanggal ng bubbles haha :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: breech41 on November 08, 2009, 10:07:25 AM
i'm planning to make her glossy white but my problem is where i can buy hoops,lugs strainers etc. na cheap and oh can someone help me where i can buy those silicon or rubber like under the lugs of some other snare?? help naman mga sir.. may lazer pa ba sa SM north wala kasi ako makita ee?? salamat sa mga tutulong.. im expecting madami kayong feedbacks about my post. thanks :-D
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: mr. trigger on November 08, 2009, 11:15:04 AM
from this: (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure838-5.jpg)
to this: (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure842-6.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure844-3.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure850-3.jpg)
ayun oh! nice mike! pogi na ng kit mo bro! :wink: front heads nalang ng bass drum ang papalitan ayus na ayus na :wink:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: pauldavid_7 on November 08, 2009, 02:21:40 PM
guys saan pwede magpapowder coat?
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 08, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
Re-chrome! But that would probably be very expensive. Powder coating, pwede rin.
Sir someone told me na if i have my steel snare powder coated, magbabago daw tunog. is this true? kaya takot ako patanggal chrome nya and powder coated eh.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: pauldavid_7 on November 09, 2009, 08:23:48 PM
bro. misunderstanding. ganyan yung itsura but its not ludwig :lol: :lol:
ah. eh di bilan mo ng badge ng ludwig! hehe. aluminum din ba yun sa'yo bro?
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: treb 821 on November 16, 2009, 08:52:21 AM
I forgot to take pictures of the kit when I got it, second hand na from a forumer here, as in madumi na talaga yung kit, medyo rusty na rin ibang hoops but most especially the tension rods, after konting pasensya at a lot of cleaning, polishing and buffing... (http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm16/treb821/Picture065.jpg)
from this: (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure838-5.jpg)
to this: (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure842-6.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure844-3.jpg) (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/pikchure850-3.jpg)
Mas gusto ko yung BEFORE.. :wink:
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 18, 2009, 08:02:50 PM
sayang, wala kong picture nung binuhay ko yung drums namin sa church afterng Bagyong ondoy. :-)
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: treb 821 on November 19, 2009, 06:56:44 AM
@ god5_g1ft - very nice paint job sir, ang ganda, care to share how you did it?
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 19, 2009, 09:36:46 AM
@ paeng16 - very nice paint job sir, ang ganda, care to share how you did it?
sir, correction lang po, si g0d5_g1ft yung may set niyan, si paeng16 ung nag-quote na mas gusto niya yung before as compared to the latter.. cheers! :-)
ito yung link sa original post ni sir g0d5_g1ft: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,53166.msg2124128.html#msg2124128
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: treb 821 on November 19, 2009, 11:41:53 AM
@ Riff_66603 - duly noted bro, edited my post already, sorry di ko napansin, hehehe!
Title: Drum Modifications & Customization ideas Thread
Post by: iFah on June 07, 2012, 11:29:22 AM
Starting a thread to stimulate creativity and project making Modifications, Customization, DIY any drum parts, hardware, shells, add-ons, from moded screws, drum reso heads to even brand plate for our kits.
Tried looking for a thread like this one pero wala akong nakita via search. if ever meron na po paki direct na lang po ako kasi im looking for Mods ideas to personalize my kit.
Thank you po
Title: IDEA: Custom Bass Drum Reso head
Post by: iFah on June 07, 2012, 11:49:03 AM
IDEA: Custom Bass Drum Reso head simple project to custom your drums
MATERIAL NEEDED: Personalized tarp
HOW: simply unscrew and place the tarp over your bass reso and tighten it. cut excess tarp around the rim. tune it to your desired, manageable sound you may desire.
CONS: your sound will become boxy. many may not like the sound
USE: for those performances with mike-ins cut a port hole then mic it. just mix the bass sound using mixer to compensate for the boxy sound.
They connected both shells using small strips of woods glued and nailed. the edge of each shell was cut off before being connected to have a space-less connecting fit.
they charged Php 300
PROBLEM: tho both are both 22" bass drums shells, they are still not identical because they are 2 different brands.
one shell is slightly protruding out on some area. Stripping off the covering reveals how lousy a generic shell's workmanship has. the bass is not perfectly circular at it seems.
DIY shell repair pudding for the wood. apply generously (https://fbcdn_sphotos_a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/282819_10150891726374398_398908997_n.jpg)
let the pudding sip through spaces (https://fbcdn_sphotos_a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/599938_10150891726629398_920235504_n.jpg)
use a hard straight material like a credit card to flatten the pudding and to push it well into spaces. this allows it to hold on firmly on the wood and to help you not to accumulate ore debt :) (https://fbcdn_sphotos_a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533050_10150891726889398_444947965_n.jpg)
what it will normally look like (https://fbcdn_sphotos_a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/575181_10150891727109398_1015440955_n.jpg)
-Let the pudding dry for 1 hour
after an hour of drying, sand paper it using the rough grade to make faster result. sand it down until you get a straight plane. apply more pudding on uneven areas and sand paper it until its uniformed. (https://fbcdn_sphotos_a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582501_10150891727774398_1336615004_n.jpg)
patching unneeded holes. i put a tape underneath the holes and applied pudding to hold the material temporarily and letting the pudding dry before sanding it down to
I forgot to take pictures of the kit when I got it, second hand na from a forumer here, as in madumi na talaga yung kit, medyo rusty na rin ibang hoops but most especially the tension rods, after konting pasensya at a lot of cleaning, polishing and buffing... (http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm16/treb821/Picture065.jpg)
sir how did you deal with the tension rods? Mahirap maglinis ng tension lugs na may kalawang. snare and tom tension rods to be specific. Kaya bumili nlng ako ng bago..... :P
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: iFah on June 16, 2012, 01:25:44 AM
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: SevenTwentyy on October 15, 2012, 06:12:04 AM
eto po sken (http://i.imgur.com/yhGht.jpg) kailangan ko pa convert yung 18x18 floor tom to bass drum any guides? :) yung cheap lang hehe 17 yrs old lang po kse ako hndi kasya yung malaking bass drum ko sa car ko kya nag convert nlang ako :(
Title: Re: Before and After Thread
Post by: SevenTwentyy on October 15, 2012, 06:15:43 AM
eto po sken (http://i.imgur.com/yhGht.jpg) kailangan ko pa convert yung 18x18 floor tom to bass drum any guides? :) yung cheap lang hehe 17 yrs old lang po kse ako hndi kasya yung malaking bass drum ko sa car ko pag may tutugtugan hirap kya nag convert nlang ako :( mali pa yung stand na nagawa ko pde pa po ba matakpan ung na drill na holes?