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The Musician Forums => Pinoydrums => Topic started by: Akira JUMBO on September 02, 2006, 01:32:07 AM
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any comments on black hardware like the Pearl EX series?
prone ba to chipping or damages?
thanks! :wink:
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The Pearl drums with the black rims and lugs look well-plated. I'm not sure though with long-term usage.
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I've always liked the look of black - and the kits that use black hardware look cooler and more modern to me than the ones that use traditional chrome. But are they practical? Is chrome more durable? Will black hardware tend to scratch more? Expert advice would be appreciated!
(http://jimayson.com/banners/misc/pearl-black.jpg)
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depende sir kung anong drums. by colored hardware you mean powder coated.
kung yamaha/premier yan, mas maganda ang chrome plating nila kesa powder coating. pero kung cheap drums, mas maganda mag powder coat kesa chrome.
durable din ang powder coat, drums ko 1 year na yung powder coated and hindi pa rin nag chip yung rims kahit panay rimshot ako. while yung home made snare ko na yung hoops binili sa lazer e may signs of rust na.
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kung yamaha/premier yan, mas maganda ang chrome plating nila kesa powder coating. pero kung cheap drums, mas maganda mag powder coat kesa chrome.
What about Pearl?
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^^^ sirit, no comment :D
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IMO, if the hardware design is a bit plain, mas maganda siya pag black. Pag maraming fancy-shmancy, mga shapes and stuff, chrome.
Good about chrome is, hindi siya namimili ng color. Black doesn't look good in some colors chrome looks good on.
I like black. Sana may black stands din, hehe.
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I like black. Sana may black stands din, hehe.
Well black does have a certain sex appeal, hehe
http://www.pearldrum.com/05snares/UCA-1450B-lrg.jpg
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I like black. Sana may black stands din, hehe.
Well black does have a certain sex appeal, hehe
http://www.pearldrum.com/05snares/UCA-1450B-lrg.jpg
I definitely felt sex in that pic. Definitely. :shock:
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Black cymbal stands!
(http://www.mycustomdrum.com/ProductImages/phattie_drums_image.jpg)
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you can have black cymbal stands for cheaper than you think. just buy a regular stand or use or old one and bring it to a powder coater (like versa in mandaluyong). my guesstimate is about less than 100 bucks per stand
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@ pinoymusika... Those black stands look evil.
OT: @ peeves... can shops like Versa "restore" hardware?
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OT: may alam po ba kayong nagpopowder coat sa Q.C. area? :lol:
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@ pinoymusika... Those black stands look evil.
OT: @ peeves... can shops like Versa "restore" hardware?
what do you mean restore?
fix? i dont know. recondition? probably
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OT: may alam po ba kayong nagpopowder coat sa Q.C. area? :lol:
republic powder coating sa balintawak
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OT: may alam po ba kayong nagpopowder coat sa Q.C. area? :lol:
republic powder coating sa balintawak
mga magkano po kaya don?
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^^^ di ko alam, sa versa lang ako nagpapagawa e
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@peeves
saan banda sa mandaluyong yun?
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Black hardware looks cool, though I agree that they do need to match with certain colors or finishes.
Some drum manufacturers have high-quality, durable powder-coated finishes. Pearl's black hardware are well-finished. The Gretsch Vinnie Colaiuta Signature kit in 19 East (http://www.19east.com/) has black hoops and lugs. Sadly, it already has some chips and scratches.
Personally, I prefer chrome hardware. I love how it shines under the stage lights, it looks more elegant, and it never goes out of style. And it seems easier to color-match or coordinate other drums and components that one often adds or replaces, such as steel timbales and snare drums (especially when one has the habit of switching different snare drum models).
If ever I'll have a drumkit with black hardware, I want the rest of the hardware (stands, tripods, rack tubes & components, etc.) to be in black too; not just the drums. I'm that obsessive-compulsive hehe! 8)
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i'm intrigued.
i might be able to whiz by balintawak.
sana madali makita yung powdercoating place.
may cheap fernando piccolo ako try ko ipa-powdercoat ng black yung hardware.
pwede bang ibang kulay ang ipa-powdercoat?
o black lang ang available?
para mas quirky sana.
hehehehehe.
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^^^ there's a sample color palette if you drop by their office
versa only does 1 color per day, if you happen to choose a color that's not currently on their oven, you will have to wait (for days) until there is a batch to be done.
i dont know about republic if they only do one color per day.
versa metal industries
189 haig st., daang bakal, mandaluyong
tel. no. 5316267
for addresses and contact info, check the original search engine
YELLOW PAGES
look under powder coating. lets be real, local companies still rely on this old technology and you can get more info than on google :D
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@peeves
saan banda sa mandaluyong yun?
big warehouse, left side, 2nd street along kalentong going san juan. start counting from the intersection of kalentong and shaw (yung may jollibee at greenwich sa mga kanto)
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guys! check niyo 2ng kit ko... pininturahan ko ng black na pilox.. pero talagang nababakbak siya eh.. so mukang trip ko yang powder coating na sinasabi ninyo
(http://photos.friendster.com/photos/22/27/6057222/32288675523455l.jpg)
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pede bang ipa-powder coat ang rims at lugs? hindi ba sisikip o magfoform ng buong paint dun sa lugs?
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^^^ why not?
(http://www.raketship.com/drumblog/PC110042.jpg)
white hoops and lugs are powder coated :D
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^^^ why not?
(http://www.raketship.com/drumblog/PC110042.jpg)
white hoops and lugs are powder coated :D
wow.. eh ung shell (shell nga ba yun?) ng drums?
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^^^ spray painted ng flourescent pink at white
black maya yung drums ko dati, b a d i n g na b a d i n g na sya ngayon!
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may naka punta na ba sa Republic Powdercoating sa Balintawak? :oops:
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kailangan ba yan ipagawa o pwde ikaw na mismo gagawa?
puro kalawang na yung akin eh,
lilihahin ko pa?
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^^^ bago mo dalin dun, lihahin mo na yung kalawang. gawin mo smooth as possible kasi pag nasa kanila na yan, pupunasan lang nila tapos salang na agad sa oven. magkakabubbles yung coat kung may kalawang yan
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san ba eksakto sa balintawak yang powder coating na yan? along edsa lang ba yan?? paki sabi naman para mapuntahan ko naman. thanks
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mga tsong san ba ung nagpapowercoat ng snare?i saw a thread about it but cant find anymore. hihi! :-D tsaka ano ba diff ng powdercoat sa ordinary paint mga tsong? di ko kasi alam eh. ty! :-D
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I think its a special kind of paint or whatever. it is supposed to be rough.
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wait mo lang si sir peeves.
siya ang idol ko sa mga ganyang bagay eh.
:D
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mga sir kung may alam rin kayo near cavite... gusto ko pa powder coat mga stand ng cymbals ko.. bagay kaya puro itim?? hehehe. kalawangin na kasi yung crome.. para less maintenace....
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You can check out these Pinoydrums threads which discusses/ed powder coating...
Chrome Hardware vs. Black Hardware
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,25224.0.html
san po nakakabili ng paint for drums?
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,28283.0.html
Lets see those sets! (sticky topic)
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,17360.0.html
8-)
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sir hanapin mo sa directory un republic powdercoating co. i think may 5 outlet cla, paranaque, caloocan 2 s q.c at meron din sa pampangga choose n lang kung san malapit, ok dun sobrang durable un mga coating nila khit s chrome plated pero pang metal, alloy lng un
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uy salamat men! balak ko pa naman papowder coat yung hardware ko :lol:
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ser, san po exact location ng republic sa paranaque? i heard its sumwer in sucat...does anybody know? thanks :-D
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wait mo lang si sir peeves.
siya ang idol ko sa mga ganyang bagay eh.
:D
demn, i missed this thread, didnt even knew it existed
your best source of info for powder coating is the YELLOW PAGES yes its old and out dated but it does contain address and phone numbers that you cant find on the net. that's a guarantee
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etu... powder coat din yung mga hoops.... dun din sa versa... tip din ni sir peeves.. hehe..
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i263/fouljan/IMG_2138.jpg)
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mga Sir, san kayo sa quezon city nagpa-poweder coating? exact address and tel# please. thanks
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saan nga sa sucat yung republic powdercaoting? salamat :-D
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question lang po regarding powder coating.
hindi ba sya madali mag chip off lalo na sa snare
pag nag ririmshots?
or kung mag katamaan yun mga toms while nag seset-up, very rare namana mangyari
pero hindi maiwasan minsan na magkabangga yun mga rims lalo na pag ligpitan na.
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question lang po regarding powder coating.
hindi ba sya madali mag chip off lalo na sa snare
pag nag ririmshots?
or kung mag katamaan yun mga toms while nag seset-up, very rare namana mangyari
pero hindi maiwasan minsan na magkabangga yun mga rims lalo na pag ligpitan na.
Powder coating does not chip off that easily..especially the factory made one by the drum companys (like Pearl's black hardwares)..that is why they are widely used for that reason..but they still do have a limit.. :lol:
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mga Sir, san kayo sa quezon city nagpa-poweder coating? exact address and tel# please. thanks
saan nga sa sucat yung republic powdercaoting? salamat :-D
check the yellow pages (hindi google, yung book na makapal sa tabi ng telepono nyo)
or eyp.com.ph
question lang po regarding powder coating.
hindi ba sya madali mag chip off lalo na sa snare
pag nag ririmshots?
or kung mag katamaan yun mga toms while nag seset-up, very rare namana mangyari
pero hindi maiwasan minsan na magkabangga yun mga rims lalo na pag ligpitan na.
nope. wala pang nagchip off sa mga snare/tom hoops ko for almost 2 years na pero may mga blemish syempre
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baka makatulong ito mga sir... :-P
from EYP...
COLOURS COATING INCORPORATED
116 Sauyo Road 1100 Quezon City
9300251
Primary Category: Powder Coatings
DYSON SURFACE COATING CORPORATION
14 Golden Road Caloocan Industrial Subd. Caybiga1400 Caloocan
9374016
Primary Category: Powder Coatings
Inquire by email · Inquire by fax ·
ICON METAL INDUSTRIES
576 Katarungan Street Plain View 1550 Mandaluyong
5328434
Primary Category: Powder Coatings
Inquire by email · View Map
PHILCO METAL PHILIPPINES INCORPORATED
147 Santo Domingo Street 1100 Quezon City
3638797
Primary Category: Powder Coatings
Inquire by email · Inquire by fax ·
VERSA POWDER COATING, INCORPORATED
189 Haig Street Barangay Daang Bakal 1550 Mandaluyong
5316273
Primary Category: Powder Coatings
Inquire by email ·
REPUBLIC POWDERCOAT CORPORATION
90 Congressional Avenue 1100 Quezon City
9263609
Primary Category: Powder Coating-Contractors
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thanks po sir waxstatic for the detailed info :-D
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question lang po regarding powder coating.
hindi ba sya madali mag chip off lalo na sa snare
pag nag ririmshots?
or kung mag katamaan yun mga toms while nag seset-up, very rare namana mangyari
pero hindi maiwasan minsan na magkabangga yun mga rims lalo na pag ligpitan na.
Powder coating does not chip off that easily..especially the factory made one by the drum companys (like Pearl's black hardwares)..that is why they are widely used for that reason..but they still do have a limit.. :lol:
one more thing, plan ko ipa powder coat yun mga luma kong hoops pero not that old. may rust na in some parts but not that bad kaya i sprayed it with pylox chrome finish but walang kwenta ang kinalabasan. parang silver paint lang.
question. before ko dalin sa powder coating shop kelangan ko bang tanggalin yun silver with the use of paint remover?
and pano naman yun lumang chrome plate? kakapit ba ng mabuti yun powder coat?
thanks po.
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strip mo muna yung silver paint mo
tapos lihahin mo ng makinis yung hoop. punasan mo ng maigi para malinis na malinis bago mo dalin sa powder coat
kakapit na yun ng ganun
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I'm planning to repaint my rusty lugs and hoops pero naisip ko baka magbitak bitak
kapag napapalo, lalong sumagwa ung itchura...tulong nmn po mga pro's
What will i do?... tnx
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clean it very well then read the powdercoating thread here..search mo nalang bro.. :lol:
all instructions and info of where to have them coated is there..
and in case you would ask..powdercoated materials does not chip of that easily.. :wink:
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wow!!! :-D tnx a lot sir...
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ito po sample mga sirs... hehehe
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/wax_static/24-06-07_1212.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/wax_static/24-06-07_1211.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/wax_static/24-06-07_1210.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/wax_static/24-06-07_1209.jpg)
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b88/wax_static/24-06-07_1234.jpg)
hoops, lugs, tom holders, tom arms and bass drum spurs lang po ang pina powder coat ko...
total of 900 petot lang... sulit na sulit... hehehe
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sorry kung may gantung thread na, pa lock na lang kung meron...
san ba ok magpachrome ng hardware? medyo may butlig na yung ibang hoops ko and i want to have it redone....
*I just merged your chrome-related thread with this good old Hardware Finishes thread.
- Pinoydrums Moderator
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sa mga talyer at machine shop dito samin nag cho chrome sila, yung friend ko pina chrome niya yung mga hardware ng guitar niya including the tuners, tuner covers, screws and whole tremolo system, saddles, control plate ng fender mustang niya, 700 pesos ang siningil sa kanya for everything, not sure lang sa mga talyer at machine shops sa ibang area.
si peeves at sandy yata may alam na nag specialize talaga for that task
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mahal sa chrome dazzler sa p.tuazon (sa opposite side ng edsa coming from araneta) pero quality talaga ang gawa nila
zach, sa sucat merong mga shops dun na nag tutubog. malapit sa evacom di ko lang alam kung magkano. nadadaanan ko lang sila
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sir sa chrome dazzler try nyo or sa espana beside pares house.hindi ko pa na try dun pero nagtanong nko dati mejo namahalan lang ako.
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kakatanong ko lang sa Chrome Dazzler...wow! expensive pala magpachrome...
yung isang rim/hoop nasa P600 ang isa...per piece ang singil pa nila...ang isang lug nasa P60-P80.
but they say that Chrome Dazzler is the best in the chroming business...
it's along P.Tuazon, Cubao....from north going to south, turn right on P.Tuazon(take the Cubao "ibabaw" route). then just look for the shop, i'm not sure of the exact address.
HTH.
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ayun! found it! sige thanks guys! will check out your recomendations :D
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sinong natry na magpa chrome ng drum items dito -> Chrome Dazzler Enterprises sa P. Tuazon Cubao?
ok ba quality? pricing specially sa mga stands.
FYI. meron din silang powder coating service dito
post some pics naman.
tnx
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@tagz
bro paano inaapply ang woodstain?? whahaha sorry medyo noob po ako sa ganyan bagay eh...tips naman po :-D salamat
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meron na bang stands na hindi chrome plated?
pa-chrome ko sana old stands ko but after the estimate,
whoa!! ang mahal ng abutin.
ano ba difference ng chroming ng CHROME DAZZLER and
yun ibang nagchrome? sobrang mahal sa Dazzler but sa iba
laking mura.
ipa-powder coat ko nalang tuloy. :-D
where can find painted/powder coated stands?
tignan ko muna bago ko gawin sa stands ko. :-) :-)
thanks :mrgreen:
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behave_blue:
1. tanggalin mo wraps at mga hardware..
2. lihain mo.. dapat mawala ung pandikit ng wraps na tinanggal mo..
ginamit ko 2 liha, ung 1 magaspang, tpos pag kontento ka na ung smooth
na liha naman hangang kuminis..
3. punasan mo pra wala na alikabok b4 i-apply woodstain..
4. apply woodstain, gamit ka na lng ng cloth (pwede din brief) hehe
5. patuyuin mo tpos lihain mo ulit ng konti ( ung smooth) pra kuminis..
6. repeat 4 and 5 hangang makuha mo ung trip mong kulay..
matrabaho to bro.. mas maganda kung my sander ka pra hindi mano mano.. :-D
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Tips naman po gusto ko kasi maging black or gold ung hoops and lugs nung snare ko, ano ba dapat kong gawin para maging possible ung ganun? or talagang nabibili ung ganun na color na?
parang ganito sana trip ko na color ng hardware ng snare ko e..
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff160/xhail_material/6x14bub.jpg)
tips naman po mga sir :-D
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alam ko bro may nabibili na black.. pwede mo rin ipa-powdercoat yan.. :-D
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alam ko bro may nabibili na black.. pwede mo rin ipa-powdercoat yan.. :-D
oo nga daw e, mga magkano kaya magastos ko kung buong hardware ng drums ko pa powdercoat ko?(ex: ung regular 5 pcs. including the lugs,hoops, tension rods) nd na kasama ung mga stands..
at sir pede rin kaya na ako mismong pipili ng color na gagamitin?mas mahal kaya ung ganun?
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hmm.. cguro mga 1.5k.. may thread na ganun dito ah?? about powdercoating, kung san meron at kung magkano inaabot.. basta alam ko mura lng powdercoat.. :-D
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bro eto link ng thread na sinasabi ko..
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,28283.0.html
kaw na bahala maghanap jn.. hehe.. :wink:
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bro eto link ng thread na sinasabi ko..
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,28283.0.html
kaw na bahala maghanap jn.. hehe.. :wink:
Bro salamat sa tips lakeng tulong nito.. salamat talaga :-D
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welcome bro.. :wink:
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some of my snare parts need chroming. i really haven't tried this. maybe you can suggest a shop na quality ang paggawa? yung tipong mareretain yung hubog ng mga bakal especially the lugs. i live in cainta sirs so ok kahit q.c. areas. salamat po sa time. :-)
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Sir,
chrome dazzler- (not sure if it's d or p. tuazon. )- same supplier of jett water heater. near farmers market but you have to cross edsa.
gbtabora
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san po malapit yun?
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san po malapit yun?
Uy. ikaw din ata sir gusto magpa chrome. :-) malapit sa araneta center. magandang landmark would be alimal. if you know p. tuazon sa cubao, try taking that route until you reach edsa, pag kita mo na edsa, go straight lang para tatagos ka dun sa other side. :-)
Sir pidro, thanks sa suggestion. sige try ko na nga talaga doon. panay kasi ata malalaking pa-chrome ineentertain nila like machineries, mags etc. kasi ang laki nung facility eh. ako tamang wala pa atang 5 kilos ang papa-chrome ko. hehe.
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malapit sa araneta? ano name ng store?
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mdyo mahal lang magpa chrome. nag inquire na ako dati. halos pambili mo na ng hardware yung pagpapachrome.
last resort if ever. go for powder coating
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mdyo mahal lang magpa chrome. nag inquire na ako dati. halos pambili mo na ng hardware yung pagpapachrome.
last resort if ever. go for powder coating
kasing mahal ng hardware? i hope hindi kasing mahal ng DDrive yun. hehe. joke lang bro. pero thanks sa "warning". :-D sa powder coating naman, mahirap for my snare kasi tendency maiiwanang chrome yung snare strainer. i also don't like the effect pag yung screws chrome/silver padin yung kulay. :-)
how do you like that 18" floor tom pala bro? :-D
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may nakapag try na po ba mag pa-paint ng hoops/rims nila?
balita?
sobrang kalawang na kasi ng generic drums ko
eh yoko naman benta then bili ng bago no budget eh
dalin ko na lang sa car paint shop?
sa tingin nyo po :-D
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help naman pa ba to sa liha?
meron pa dyan na ganyang version pero palobo na may rust yung hoops,
kaya ba ito ng sandblasting? or liha power na lang?kasi sisimulan ko na ito,malapit na dumating spare parts ko na iba via vinci at bibili na din akong heads.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZegZyglUKO8/UoOR6s_NeXI/AAAAAAAAAUY/nkHTkkNdnmQ/s1600/006.jpg)
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salamat!
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may nakapag try na po ba mag pa-paint ng hoops/rims nila?
balita?
sobrang kalawang na kasi ng generic drums ko
eh yoko naman benta then bili ng bago no budget eh
dalin ko na lang sa car paint shop?
sa tingin nyo po :-D
may kilala ako nagrestore ng snare. Even the tension rodsw and hops ay narestore nya.
Binabad niya daw sa oxalic yung lahat ng hardwares niya and then nung nawala na yung kalawang, nagpowdercoating na siya. Until now eh maganda parin yung snare niya. :)
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:mrgreen: patulong naman ano pedeng pampintura sa 6611db avenger II..puru gasgas na kasi nakakatakot kasi baka hindi bumagay yung kulay..
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:mrgreen: patulong naman ano pedeng pampintura sa 6611db avenger II..puru gasgas na kasi nakakatakot kasi baka hindi bumagay yung kulay..
powdercoating is the best way to do it. iwas lang sa moving parts.
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san po nkakabili nun?
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san po nkakabili nun?
actually, service based ang powdercoating. ito yung address kung somewhere near EDSA yung madali for you.
(http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5679/1555/400/fs5.jpg)
:D :D :D :D :D
dont paint, powder coat is the way!
for the nth time eto yung address :
versa metal industries
189 haig st., daang bakal, mandaluyong
tel. no. 5316267
just go to kalentong (may jolibe at grinwich sa kanto) going to san juan, turn left at the second street from shaw.