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Offline vegetablejoe

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I don't have access to a Timmy, so I will never find out, even if I went to a store to try the Dano... but I'm curious, since it's been talked about on TGP...

To anyone who has tried both pedals: Is all the hype true?

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 09:08:56 AM »
the Dano has different opamps and some caps said some.

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 10:02:52 AM »
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2225720&page=1

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Guys, I've just had a long conversation with Paul C (timmy circuit designer), on the phone. He's hungover because when he learned of this yesterday he drank a LOT of tequila, and he doesn't drink. He's absolutely shattered and is having a hard time trying to deal with it - especially when some on other forums are enjoying the injustice. He told me he "feels like I've been assraped and people are standing around applauding!"


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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 10:54:30 AM »
yung fuzz looks interesting. :-D

i'm still on the hunt for a good one. ah, the struggle is the glory! :lol:

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2009, 11:57:41 AM »
sounds like a crock of BS and i can smell it even with my congestion.

there are folks that do innovative stuff and then there are those that can't come up with their own sh*t and just prefer to copy other's work because they can't muster the creativity to do unique, worthwhile stuff.
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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2009, 07:00:19 PM »
I dunno wether its like a TIMMY, but I absolutely love my dano transparent OD. it really is transparent. it may not be as smooth as more expensive OD's, but it feels great, sustains well and gives me a glassy crunch. i love splitting my hums and kicking this pedal on for some nice feeling-strat sounds. :-) feeling lang.

quite frankly, i've owned a ts-9, a bad monkey and let them both go. the dano trans OD however, i really, really dig and most likely will not part with. i just really like it a lot.

alam nyo ba yung feeling na, ang sarap lang talaga tugtugin? i got that feeling from this pedal. nakakatuwa sa totoo lang.

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2009, 08:56:37 PM »
check this out:

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=502385

Steve from Danelectro has contacted PaulC directly and apologised.

For those wondering, some guys at some forum (I forgot which) already traced the circuit. except for one part value, they're pretty much the same.
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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2009, 11:29:06 PM »
i should get a dano, :lol:

i want to a**r*p* too  :lol:
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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 04:38:57 AM »
there's an ongoing investigation on it. someone at dano screwed up. and if there's a slight bit of a copy, total recall.
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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2009, 08:13:28 AM »
must be some engineer was tasked by the higher-ups to come with an "original" design. he slacked, and RE'd the Timmy instead, speculations go.

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2009, 08:28:04 AM »
i'm gonna try out a dano :-D
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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2009, 09:37:04 AM »
i'm gonna try out a dano :-D
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2009, 10:55:17 AM »
@ 34usd not bad hahah,

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2009, 04:10:48 PM »
There's a cool kuwento included on one of the above links, which has Paul Cochrane telling how the TIM developed. Thanks for it. Here's the quote:

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The Tim/timmy pedals are not clones of anything that I know of. Simple circuit using common parts for sure, but the design was not based on anything.

I made it back in 1997. It started out as a simple opamp boost for my plexi. If pushed hard it would get into nasty rail distortion, so i put limiting diodes in to stop that. That's the only thing it has in common with a ts type of pedal - diode clampers. It didn't come from a TS. It came from basic electronic theory. It would still distort, but it wasn't so nasty so then I decided to make it into an od also.

It had to still be able to be a flat booster, so I had to think about how to shape the signal for good clipping while still being able to be set flat. What I came up with is a simple tone control setup that was split into different areas of the circuit. Up until then anything I'd ever seen had the tone controls in the same spot.

The pre clipping bass control was designed to mimic the response of blending channels on a plexi. It's a variable shelf EQ. Simple, but nothing I'd seen in anything diy or pro. This let the pedal have a flat low end for the clean stuff while letting me roll off the bottom when getting the gain going. The treble control came after the distortion. It's a simple variable 1st order filter. i did this so i could have all the treble there for the clean stuff while being able to roll out the highs when cranking. It does not use an active boost/cut high end shelf like a screamer. To make up for the loss of output level due to the clamps I used the second half of the amp to give the output a flat 6db boost.

While it's a simple circuit it's not a clone of anything. It's a bunch of things that i did to reach a goal I had. It did not come about from modding/tweaking anything. I did not try to make a better "something".

Have builders flat out cloned stuff? Sure, but not in this case. I've never gooped it, and I've never misled people about the design. I've also tried to keep it as cheap as I could so poor musicians could afford it. Up until last June the pedal was $105 including shipping and paypal fees. Now it's $129. I hated to raise the price, but I wasn't even making half of what it cost to build because of the increase in parts and shipping costs.
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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2009, 06:55:31 PM »
lawsuit era: OD pedal edition.  :lol: :lol:
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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2009, 09:11:17 PM »
Better buy na the stocks from Lyric for sure magiging rare na yan once ma-recall. :-D

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2009, 01:14:03 AM »
^^^^  :-o  :-o  :-o
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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2009, 03:38:23 AM »
it costs 39USD including shipping and handling...



im selling a bnew one for P1850.. order na!.. ang ganda ng tunog




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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2009, 09:29:13 AM »
Langya. mukhang mapapaGAS ako nito just to get this a. But for approx. 2K (2.2K >> Lyric price at 1.85K kay sir obet), mukhang mapapabili ako just to have a possible "lawsuit" piece of gear. Hehehe.

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2009, 09:31:26 AM »
are the components SMD?

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2009, 05:23:17 PM »
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there ya go!! for me, Timmy was more transparent than the dano. Dano was a little too sharp sounding and a tad thinner than the Timmy's tone. Both pedals were set to sound at least the same but the Timmy brought out what it does best....transparency... :-D
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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2009, 06:50:15 PM »
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my observations from the video, merong sort of "kuryente-ish" property yung dano, mas warm yung dating nung timmy. the tone was like the timmy being emulated by a multifx processor. i mean it's close, but it just doesn't nail it.

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Re: Dano Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive = Paul Cochrane's TIMMY? Totoo ba?
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2009, 07:12:12 PM »
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From what I hear from the video, the dano gives a treble boost w/c I like.  The Timmy seems a little bit "blanketed" until he adjusted it (2:25), though still a little understated.
But the transparency of the Timmy is there.
In all fairness, I just wish he could dial in similar tone settings for both to give it more credence.
(Playing devil's advocate)
For the price difference...I think the dano won on this one.  :evil: (pls. don't shoot me.  :oops:)
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