hi hat sleeves?

[kulapoot]

hey guys naglalagay ba kayo ng hihat sleeves sa top hat?..kase metal to metal contact yung top hat w/ threaded metal ng clutch..    ung bottom hat lang usually my sleeve na nakikta ko. thanks

[wipeout]

yes of course!  That's standard when you mount cymbals.  If your hihat clutch don't have a sleeve, you can improvise using a garden hose.  Kunin mo yung clear, choose the size that fits your hihat clutch.  That's available from hardware stores.

[metalmuhlisha]

actually a garden hose might not be such a good idea for the hihat clutch because of its diameter. baka di na magkasya yung top hat mo o malimita yung movement.

what i use for the clutch is electrical tape. around 3 or more turns of tape should do it. downside is pag papalitan mo na may madikit na residue.

may nabasa rin ako dati na pwede yung ptfe sealant tape (plumbing tape)? haven't tried it.

sana may ibang mag bigay pa ng suggestions for the best way to do this.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

actually a garden hose might not be such a good idea for the hihat clutch because of its diameter. baka di na magkasya yung top hat mo o malimita yung movement.

what i use for the clutch is electrical tape. around 3 or more turns of tape should do it. downside is pag papalitan mo na may madikit na residue.

may nabasa rin ako dati na pwede yung ptfe sealant tape (plumbing tape)? haven't tried it.

sana may ibang mag bigay pa ng suggestions for the best way to do this.

kung madikit ung electric tape, why not use teflon? (the white non adhesive tape that the friendly neighborhood tubero uses) its clean, cheap and not too thick. well personally for me, I dont feel the need for a sleeve for the hihat. because 1. it would not vibrate freely as jason said 2. the cymbal lays 180 degrees with the hihat clutch so the possibilities of keyholing are minimal (i think) unlike on cymbal stands where the cymbal is tilted or angled there for creating gravity pressure on the hole and the stand.

just my two cents

[wipeout]

Actually its a bit hard to insert it in the hihat clutch, i have to use oil for lubrication but its a very snug fit and the top hat can freely move.  One more thing, my hihat clutch has a little indentation so its diameter is a bit smaller and there are no threads on where the hihat rest.  Well, you could use other methods for this purpose but I feel that the garden hose works well for me and I think this will last longer than using the tape method.  Also, the hose is already permanent because you cannot remove it anymore unless you cut it.  I like my hihat loose, like ala Steve Smith swinging hihat or Steve Gadd and the sleeve works very well. 

actually a garden hose might not be such a good idea for the hihat clutch because of its diameter. baka di na magkasya yung top hat mo o malimita yung movement.

what i use for the clutch is electrical tape. around 3 or more turns of tape should do it. downside is pag papalitan mo na may madikit na residue.

may nabasa rin ako dati na pwede yung ptfe sealant tape (plumbing tape)? haven't tried it.

sana may ibang mag bigay pa ng suggestions for the best way to do this.

[kibohead]

ako electrical tape din...i tried yung sinabi ralph na teflon, pero di tumatagal dahil sa movement ng top hat, madali siya napupunit, yungelectrical tape naman oks naman, di naman natatanggal. yung garden hose, ayun di ko pa na try. oo man, habang maaga, lagyan mo na, kasi yung akin dati di ko nalagyan, ayun nag keyhole yung top hat ko...sayang...

[oliver_soh]

WE NEED PICS!!

I dont get it..

[metalmuhlisha]

i just switched to ptfe sealant tape last night. update ko nalang siguro yung thread re: durability next time.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

ako electrical tape din...i tried yung sinabi ralph na teflon, pero di tumatagal dahil sa movement ng top hat, madali siya napupunit, yungelectrical tape naman oks naman, di naman natatanggal. yung garden hose, ayun di ko pa na try. oo man, habang maaga, lagyan mo na, kasi yung akin dati di ko nalagyan, ayun nag keyhole yung top hat ko...sayang...

ohhhhhhhh
naku! baka magkeyhole ung hats ko! kailangan gawan ng way. . .

salamat sa inputs guys, malaking babala to para sa ating mga drummers

[plep]

2 layers electrical tape, 1 layer scotch tape.

electrical tape for softness/give, scotch tape for durability (madali mashred ang electrical tape e)

[metalmuhlisha]

@ralph
hehe baliktad tayo ako nag teflon na e, subok lang meron kasi dito sa bahay. kinapalan ko nalang since it's quite thin.

hmm may weird characteristic yung teflon e, pag electrical tape kasi napupunit din eventually kahit makapal pa (at di mo pa siya pwedeng kapalan talaga, kasi pag napupunit na siya may epekto sa hihat movement), pag teflon naman ang nangyayari "nadidiin/na-cocompres/nagiging mas compact/nasisiksik" yung tape.
parang sinasakal(?).

i'll wait and see how this holds up.

but the question is... what's the best material to use in this situation? calling all pros...

(btw hose and/or computer wiring wraps (lol) din ang gamit ko sa cymbal stands. kaso di ko talaga trip yung effect niya sa hats.)

[9_spiral]

yes several layers of scotch tape work for me...matagal ko na cyang nilagay and buhay pa rin ngayon

[phfreq]

meron akong nabibili sa hardware, parang transparent na tubing, iba iba ang sizes non, may inner diameter and outer diameter na specs.. ang ginagamit ko para dun sa mga cymbals ko eh ung 7/16" inner diameter..

clear vinyl tubing ata ang tawag don.. tipong parang straw pero makapal... kung familiar kayo dun sa mga ginagamit ng karpintero na hose na pang-level ("nivel" ), parang ganon... tumatagal yon... he hehe...

[intake]

how about duct tape? matibay din yon

[kibohead]

nung namatay yung mga alagang isda namin, ayu yung hose sa filter, yun ginamit ko dati sa cymbal stand kong squater! hahaha! ayus pa naman hanggang ngayon.