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Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« on: May 10, 2011, 05:50:44 PM »
Hi guys, i'm confused on what pots to use as vol and tone including the caps value on a SSH guitar (2 SC, 1 HB, 1 Vol and 1 Tone)

Needing your help please. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2011, 11:22:36 AM »
I understand that:

Single coils = 250k pots and 0.22mf caps
Humbuckers = 500k and 0.47mf caps

but what if its on SSH config having one vol and one tone only???  :?

Need help so bad!

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2011, 12:30:28 PM »
I understand that:

Single coils = 250k pots and 0.22mf caps
Humbuckers = 500k and 0.47mf caps

but what if its on SSH config having one vol and one tone only???  :?

Need help so bad!

Not sure about caps, best to send sir Mike a text.

But with my Strat I'm using 500k for volume, 250k for 2 tone knobs. Single coil but humbucking.

You could use either 250k or 500k for HSS but I think either will compliment one more than the other type of pickup.

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2011, 12:55:55 PM »
thank you sir rolexm for the insights!

This thing really confuses me so bad. Needing more explanations and advice.

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2011, 12:58:26 PM »
0.022uF >> brighter
0.047uF >> rounder

500k pot >> brighter
250k pot >> rounder

high output >> rounder tone
lower output >> brighter tone

vintage wound single coils are lower output; therefore brighter >> needs a 250k pot + 0.047uF cap to tame the brightness.

humbuckers are higher output; therefore rounder >> needs a 500k pot + 0.022uF to offset the roundness.

Overwound single coils would behave like humbuckers (but with hum of course, unless noiseless), so I'd treat them the same way: 500k pot + 0.022uF cap.

Fender SSH strats I think use 250k + 0.047uF, because anything else would make the SC's too bright.
AFAIK many asian SSH guitars (Squier, Ibanez, Ibanez GIO) use 500k + 0.022uF. Stock pickups are usually a bit on the overwound side.

What guitar is it and what pickups are you using?

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2011, 02:00:11 PM »
Wow thanks Sir spankyrigor, it is all getting clear unto me. Great share!

It is a MIJ ESP superstrat... planning to put DP-100 on bridge and two vintage sounding single coils on neck and middle.

What can you recommend Sir?

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2011, 08:37:02 PM »
I understand that:

Single coils = 250k pots and 0.22mf caps
Humbuckers = 500k and 0.47mf caps

but what if its on SSH config having one vol and one tone only???  :?

Need help so bad!

more than often SSH would be 500K with .022uf caps

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 08:56:58 AM »
^^^

I agree. I have a guitar with Micsis at the moment, SSH config 1vol + 1tone. I'm doing the same thing.

As an option I've heard that you can wire a resistor(? not sure) in parallel with the SC's to further darken the sound a bit if you go the 500k/0.022uF route.

Or you can totally bypass the tone pot for the bridge position; bale for the SC's nalang yung tone pot.
That way you can maybe choose 250k/0.047uF for the neck/mid pickup without darkening the bridge HB too much.

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 10:44:48 AM »
0.022uF >> brighter
0.047uF >> rounder

500k pot >> brighter
250k pot >> rounder

high output >> rounder tone
lower output >> brighter tone

vintage wound single coils are lower output; therefore brighter >> needs a 250k pot + 0.047uF cap to tame the brightness.

humbuckers are higher output; therefore rounder >> needs a 500k pot + 0.022uF to offset the roundness.

Overwound single coils would behave like humbuckers (but with hum of course, unless noiseless), so I'd treat them the same way: 500k pot + 0.022uF cap.

best summary i've seen so far.  thanks for sharing!  :-D
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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 02:26:55 PM »
best summary i've seen so far.  thanks for sharing!  :-D

I agree  :-D

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Or you can totally bypass the tone pot for the bridge position; bale for the SC's nalang yung tone pot.
That way you can maybe choose 250k/0.047uF for the neck/mid pickup without darkening the bridge HB too much.

This solved my confusion. Thanks Sir Spanky!

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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2011, 03:07:45 PM »
resurrecting this thread since it's related to what i want to know.  :-D

for a tele with a humbucker neck pickup (alnico II) and tele bridge pickup (alnico V slightly hotter wound), what cap and pot values will you recommend?  this is for the standard tele 3-way switch with 1 vol and 1 tone control.  :-)
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Re: Help - Confused on Potentiometers and caps
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2011, 03:36:02 PM »
I asked the same question sa Stratocaster Thread hehe walang sumagot. Thanks TS for bringing the question here.