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Title: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: dariusbabylon on December 21, 2010, 07:23:32 AM
In the spirit of the Beatles thread http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,130073.875.html
Post away
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: burnsbhm on December 21, 2010, 08:33:39 AM
If people ask me what are my musical roots, I say that the music of the '50s, '60s, '70s and classic rock and soul. You could never go wrong with that for me. I grew up in the '80s were Punk, New Wave were all the rage in my side of town they were my "coming of age" music.
That being said, the music of the '60s still affects my outlook as a professional musician. With all the Justin Biebers, Lady Gagas, Bruno Marz, Rihanna dominating the charts, you start to wonder - the records of today sounds so processed, with only chords less than the blues, all artificial sounds. Synthesizers were still in its infancy in the '60s and are very very unreliable, sequencers were alien to them so the music you hear on those '60s records are done by real musicians.
The '60s was an era that the artists demand that they themselves write and record their own original compositions. That was unheard of in the '50s (until a certain Paul Anka came with "Diana") were all the singers were branded as "vocal stylists" or "interpreters" only. The '60s changed that, with brilliant composers like Bob Dylan, Lennon-McCartney, Jagger-Richards, everything demands a high standard of musicianship, musicality, arrangement. Besides of course you have to be excellent live performers.
Here are the artists of the '60s that shaped my musical roots: 1. The Beatles 2. Herman's Hermits 3. John Smith And The New Sound 4. Petula Clark (I finally got her autograph on one of her albums in 2008!) 5. The Zombies 6. The Ventures 7. The Shadows 8. The Jimi Hendrix Experience 9. Gary Puckett and the Union Gap ('60s white soul like the Righteous Brothers) 10.The Temptations 11.The Monkees 12.The Dave Clark Five (but lately, I've been getting bad news about them especially Dave Clark being a douchebag for refusing to release the recordings) 13.The Bee Gees (before those malaria falsettos, hehehehehe, they wrote some very melodic pop music mixed with baroque influenced strings) 14.The Outsiders 15.The Turtles 16.The Hollies 17.Peter And Gordon 18.The Association 19.The Beach Boys 20.The Wonders (! Ha! para lang mapuno yung 20! Hehehehehe)
I hope we can stage a sequel to the Beatles event last Sunday. This would take things to a higher level, slowly but surely more musical dreams will be fulfilled.
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: dariusbabylon on December 21, 2010, 02:02:56 PM
For me, 60's music was initially about checking out the Beatles' competition, so to speak. I was initially more attracted to the raunchier, dirtier sounds (Stones, the Doors, the Kinks, some Hendrix, the Byrds). But of course, it's hard to resist the more melodic ones from the Hollies, The turtles, monkees and zombies. "Bus Stop" would not be out of place, in say, "Beatles for Sale" or "With The Beatles".
I got into listening to prog rock in the 90s and discovered early Genesis and Yes (1968 to 69).
And we can argue to death if Simon and Garfunkel is "rock" (this is the Pinoy rock thread after all), but they had some landmark stuff in the 60s (Sound of Silence went toe-to-toe with Paperback Writer at top of the Billboard charts in 66). And Paul Simon trumps most lyricists today (sample : Dangling Conversations).
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on December 21, 2010, 03:09:03 PM
My Musical influence are the music from The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Firefall, The Orleans, The Guess Who , Jim Croce, James Taylor, PPM, Graham Nash, Starland Vocal Band, America, Bread & Chicago.
hmmm 1970s na ata ang iba :wink:
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: burnsbhm on December 21, 2010, 09:06:28 PM
My Musical influence are the music from The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, Firefall, The Orleans, The Guess Who , Jim Croce, James Taylor, PPM, Graham Nash, Starland Vocal Band, America, Bread & Chicago.
hmmm 1970s na ata ang iba :wink:
Afraid so....
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: audio deft on December 21, 2010, 10:49:25 PM
i started really paying attention to music during the late 80's. but there was a time in the early 90's when dwkc would play beatles music for an hour (i think from 5am-6am). that's what got me interested to dug up more of the 60's. i discovered the stones, the doors, beach boys, hendrix, cream, etc. and now i've been digging motown..... the "rawness" of the sound of the 60's is really appealing
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Endshiftresign! on December 22, 2010, 12:23:35 AM
i consider the '60s as my musical roots as well, even if i was born in the late '70s. i wasn't even in school yet when my parents would expose me to the sounds from their times, particularly the beatles...there was a time na favorite station ko ang DZRJ 100.3, and every time i'd vacation in manila (baguio boy ako from grade 1 to 1st year HS) i'd always look forward to DZRJ...even if those were the times i'd discover the current musical trends of those times by myself, from glam rock, to grunge, to thrash metal...
i just wish there were more people my age or younger who truly enjoy listening to - and playing - music from the '60s. tama si bryan, iba talaga ang music nung time na yun. in america, there are bands like the young veins, who are led by two ex-members of panic at the disco, and tres bien, who finished 5th or 6th in the short-lived "next great american band" competition a few years back. these guys are in their mid-20s yet they sound like bands from the mid-'60s. in here, if you play such music, either you're in with the bloom brothers (correct me if i'm wrong but i haven't heard much positive feedback re: their attitudes) or you're old enough to be a grandpa. the PBT All-Stars of beatles tribute fame are somewhere in between but that shouldn't be relevant anyway...oh well, nasa pilipinas tayo and age plays such a big part in so many things where it shouldn't, music included...
it is my hope that my side band would change such conventions...aside from the usual '60s stuff (beatles, stones, kinks, who, zombies, yardbirds, hendrix, etc.) that i listen to and use as a guide for our compositions-to-be, i also listen to a lot of '60s garage rock. anyone familiar with rhino's "nuggets" box sets? the first one, focusing on US one-hit and no-hit wonder garage bands from the '60s, was compiled by lenny kaye, better known as patti smith's guitarist in the '70s. without trying to be a dictator, i'm trying to get my slightly younger bandmates into these obscurities (as well as the above bands), though their own influences are very much welcome in the mix. we also happen to be influenced by a lot of '90s britpop...
@rommel, good job for creating this thread! :-D and bryan, hopefully that sequel can happen sooner rather than later...kelangan ko lang ayusin ang mga priorities ko, such as brokensauce's album launch and a few other musical and non-musical commitments i may be having...
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: rebelrhetoric on December 22, 2010, 01:02:13 AM
Mammas and Pappas, Chuck Berry, Ritchie Valens, Santo & Johnny, THE DOORS!!! haha i like the 50's to 60's sound really, though i really don't know much about it. (just starting to explore em) :-)
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: burnsbhm on December 22, 2010, 10:19:53 AM
Nuggets is a compilation album originally released in 1972 by Elektra records then reissued by Sire 4 years later. The full title of the double album is Nuggets: Original Artyfacts from the First Psychedelic Era, comprises of garage bands and psychedelic bands mostly releasing only singles that you can count with one hand with a finger or two amputated.
I like most of these tracks although I don't have that compilation (but I have the tracks on individual cds). My personal faves are "I Have Too Much To Dream Last Night" by The Electric Prunes, "Hey Joe" by The Leaves (covered by Jimi Hendrix Experience not long after) and most of all "Lies" by the Knickerbockers - this track reminds me so much of the Beatles.
Well I wish this next project can happen sooner or later as Enzo says....but nevertheless let's keep this on the official list of projects, ok?
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Mocho on December 22, 2010, 11:33:25 AM
The first time I heard "She's Not There" by The Zombies, nagka-goosebumps ako literally and (according to wikipedia or some article I've read before) this song was written way before "Yesterday". Alam ko lang kasi dati Beatles, but after hearing that song nag-search pa ko ng ibang 60s bands. Great era for music.
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: rebelrhetoric on December 22, 2010, 03:42:29 PM
The first time I heard "She's No There" by The Zombies, nagka-goosebumps ako literally and (according to wikipedia or some article I've read before) this song was written way before "Yesterday". Alam ko lang kasi dati Beatles, but after hearing that song nag-search pa ko ng ibang 60s bands. Great era for music.
yeah I like that song too. The Zombies pala yun. Thanks alam ko na ngayon. cheers!
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on December 22, 2010, 04:16:48 PM
My favorite songs by The Zombies are I remember when I loved her, You make me feel good and The way I feel inside. But I only happened to discover them in the early 90s(what a shame :-D). My younger days were always filled with songs from my favourite band and artists who played with them. I began to like Dylan because of his creative song writing, lyrics were just so clever!
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: rebelrhetoric on December 22, 2010, 04:51:35 PM
My favorite songs by The Zombies are I remember when I loved her, You make me feel good and The way I feel inside. But I only happened to discover them in the early 90s(what a shame :-D). My younger days were always filled with songs from my favourite band and artists who played with them. I began to like Dylan because of his creative song writing, lyrics were just so clever!
I used to hear songs from The Zombies around the mid 90's in some radio station. I don't remember the radio station as I was quite young to remember. They played it almost every sunday and I really enjoyed listening to it with my dad. Naging soundtrack na namin tuwing sunday yung She's Not There pagnagddrive sya. It's a shame I wasnt able to buy any of their stuff to really know them. Ngayon ko nalang ulet naeexplore thanks to this thread. Thanks to Mocho for stating The Zombies yung name ng band.. hehe.. hindi ko alam na sila pla yung artist na nagcompose nun. cheers!
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: burnsbhm on December 23, 2010, 02:07:13 AM
The Zombies were one of the COOLEST bands of the '60s - not only in the way they present themselves but in the sound! The cool sounding keyboards, vocals and drums they could have been a cool jazz band and got away with it. I have both of their official albums, you gotta check them out!
1. Colin Blunstone - Vocals 2. Rod Argent - Keyboards, Vocals, Harmonica 3. Chris White - Bass, Vocals 4. Hugh Grundy - Drums 5. Paul Atkinson (RIP) - Guitar, Vocals
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: echo_ikaw on December 23, 2010, 06:33:26 AM
Mga sir, can i join you..love the 60's.. love all the bands that were enumerated... :-) can i add/share: :-) the Velvet Underground
Can (my fav band :-))
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Pink floyd w/ syd barrett Jefferson Airplane Buffalo Springfield Janis Joplin Roy Orbison(cant help it.,i like his songs)
the Who the Kinks
Greatful Dead JethroTull Zappa
..
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: dariusbabylon on December 23, 2010, 08:42:49 AM
One of my favorite tracks by The Doors
The first time I heard that song was as a sappy ballad, by errr...maybe Perry Como
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Jaco D on December 23, 2010, 09:50:09 AM
For me, the sixties rock scene was a period of transition. I think it was during these times that protest songs were a dime a dozen. Ang dami niyan! Though decades before and after the sixties had their share of protest songs, medyo it was in the 60s that these songs became more "staple" than fringe. I guess there was a lot during that time that the folks then wanted to protest against: the Vietnam War, conformity, etc., etc. Transition-wise, music in the sixties was not the only one in transition. Even sartorial trends were in flux. Compare pictures of pre-65 and post 65 Beatles and you'll get what I mean. I guess any rock star/act of the decade had a pre-65 and a post-65 persona. If your image of Jimi was the Jimi of Woodstock/Isle of Wright, you'll find his clean-cut pics during his Isley Brothers back-up day as a throwback to say the least, and you could say the same for Clapton, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, and other rock stars who came about during the era. I dunno what's it about the sixties but lately, I've been stocking up on music (CDs, vinyl, etc.) from the era: Blood Sweat and Tears, The Guess Who, The Association, Jose Feliciano, The Rolling Stones, Spiral Starecase, etc. I've been known to buy music way after their time, but somehow it's the 60s stuff that I still have to outgrow. Funny thing is the sixties had come and gone way before my appreciation of music set in.
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on December 23, 2010, 10:25:01 AM
The Zombies were one of the COOLEST bands of the '60s - not only in the way they present themselves but in the sound! The cool sounding keyboards, vocals and drums they could have been a cool jazz band and got away with it. I have both of their official albums, you gotta check them out!
1. Colin Blunstone - Vocals 2. Rod Argent - Keyboards, Vocals, Harmonica 3. Chris White - Bass, Vocals 4. Hugh Grundy - Drums 5. Paul Atkinson (RIP) - Guitar, Vocals
Colin Blunstone is one of Allan Parsons Project vocalist bro? I like his solo hit Miles away too
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: burnsbhm on December 23, 2010, 10:21:45 PM
Colin Blunstone is one of Allan Parsons Project vocalist bro? I like his solo hit Miles away too
The Alan Parsons Project recording of "Old And Wise" has Colin Blunstone on vocals. The project also occasionally used the band Ambrosia as side men as the Project has no permanent members except Alan Parsons and Eric Woolfson.
Alan Parsons was one of the recording engineers on The Beatles "Let It Be" and "Abbey Road" albums. He was the one who did the audio recording of the rooftop set. Unfortunately never saw the actual performance. He was then only 20 years old.
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Endshiftresign! on December 24, 2010, 12:30:39 AM
The Zombies were one of the COOLEST bands of the '60s - not only in the way they present themselves but in the sound! The cool sounding keyboards, vocals and drums they could have been a cool jazz band and got away with it. I have both of their official albums, you gotta check them out!
1. Colin Blunstone - Vocals 2. Rod Argent - Keyboards, Vocals, Harmonica 3. Chris White - Bass, Vocals 4. Hugh Grundy - Drums 5. Paul Atkinson (RIP) - Guitar, Vocals
"zombie heaven", the 4 CD box set is even better. :-D also includes their non-album tracks and many other rare/live recordings...plus both official albums.
yun na lang ata kulang sa side band ko (the artists formerly known as the vast difference)...isang mala-rod argent na keyboardist...
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: dariusbabylon on December 24, 2010, 08:14:36 AM
My 1960's all-star rock band (Beatle members not included, and can't include the jazz musos like Tony Williams or Paul Chambers)
Bass - Bill Wyman Keyboards - Rey Manzarek Drums - Keith Moon Guitar - Jimmy Page Vocals - Jim Morrison
If Beatle members can be included, here's my all-star band
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Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on December 24, 2010, 09:48:06 AM
My 1960's all-star rock band (Beatle members not included, and can't include the jazz musos like Tony Williams or Paul Chambers)
Bass - Bill Wyman Keyboards - Rey Manzarek Drums - Keith Moon Guitar - Jimmy Page Vocals - Jim Morrison
If Beatle members can be included, here's my all-star band
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mine will be
1. Mike Fleetwood- Drums 2. Klaus Voorman- Bass 3. Roy Orbison- Vocals 4. Gary Brooker- Keyboards 5. Stephen Stills- guitars
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: burnsbhm on December 24, 2010, 11:37:35 AM
Mine would be: 1. Janis Joplin, Aretha Franklin - Female Vocals 2. Tom Jones, Colin Blunstone - Male Vocals 3. James Jamerson, Sr. - Bass 4. Steve Cropper - Rhythm Guitar 5. Jimi Hendrix - Lead Guitar 6. Ringo Starr - Drums 7. Jimmy Smith - Hammond Organ 8. Rod Argent - Piano 9. Stan Getz - Saxophone 10. Chet Baker - Trumpet 11. James Pankow - Trombone
Ano kaya tunog nitong grupong ito?
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: dariusbabylon on December 24, 2010, 06:47:08 PM
Can be awesome, if somebody like George Martin or Gil Evans is directing or producing.
Kind of reminds of Sting's 2000 -2001 band, which had loads of musicians (all top notch); which had the potential to be all muddy but had a really clean sound http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0271804/
Here's another example, which IMHO, is epic fail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_(Yes_album)
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on December 24, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
commercial muna :wink:
CDs for php99.00 only,Astrovision at Festival mall
Mga sir, can i join you..love the 60's.. love all the bands that were enumerated... :-) can i add/share: :-) the Velvet Underground
Can (my fav band :-))
feature=related
Pink floyd w/ syd barrett Jefferson Airplane Buffalo Springfield Janis Joplin Roy Orbison(cant help it.,i like his songs)
the Who the Kinks
Greatful Dead JethroTull Zappa
..
re: Can I tried checking out the vid. Man... They are way ahead of their time. Though I was watching Iggy Pop. hehe
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: boyetperez on December 25, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
Salamuch bro sale ko dyan hehehe talked to bro Edwin (i think that's his name, told him peers kayo ni Jun Villamayor) last Dec 11 when he's all excited looking forward to the jam then, sayang wala kami naging follow up talk . . btw sana me slot pa . . .
Mammas and Pappas, Chuck Berry, Ritchie Valens, Santo & Johnny, THE DOORS!!! haha i like the 50's to 60's sound really, though i really don't know much about it. (just starting to explore em) :-)
Who could ever forget California dreaming! :-) great vocal band
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: echo_ikaw on December 28, 2010, 12:10:10 AM
actually, halos magkasabay ang velvet underground & iggy and the stooges. add to the fact that lou reed and iggy pop have very similar singing voices when they're singing...ibang usapan na when iggy pop is screaming, which he did quite a lot with the stooges... :lol:
neither band sold a lot of records (both aforementioned frontmen would have much more successful solo careers in terms of sales) but need to be given credit for influencing a lot of today's music.
EDIT - good to know that the stooges are still active, even almost a year after ron asheton's passing. si james williamson (guitarist on the "raw power" album) ang pumalit, after a decades-long hiatus from playing music...
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Endshiftresign! on December 28, 2010, 05:45:03 AM
I love 60s music in general (not just rock) - Motown, Brill Building stuff, Phil Spector pop, Dusty Springfield, any music na pinakialaman ni Curt Boettcher, Serge Gainsbourg, John Barry etc, etc.
lots of love for motown records here, and their original roster of artists in the '60s...as well as their southern US counterpart, stax records. :-D panalo din ang '60s soul/R&B!
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Endshiftresign! on December 29, 2010, 12:39:51 AM
some good reading material here...you may never have heard of these guys (unless you're familiar with the "nuggets" series me and bryan mentioned in page 1) but they were one of the great unsung heroes of the '60s garage rock scene...even if a couple of their "original" songs were workarounds on blues classics "milk cow blues" and "dust my broom".
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Endshiftresign! on December 30, 2010, 12:09:36 AM
...as i was rushing to work tonight several minutes late, my earphones accidentally disconnected from my phone, and before i knew it, my phone was blaring out stuff from my "secret playlist"...not really secret per se, but music that not too many people are aware i like.
and for 30 glorious seconds, manong guard and a few officemates were treated to the chocolate watchband's (see above post) garage rock cover of wilson pickett's soul classic "in the midnight hour". :-D
just wanted to share this "close encounter" with '60s rock. :-)
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: echo_ikaw on December 31, 2010, 06:58:17 AM
Anyone here who's a Del Shannon fan? Ranaway, Needles and pins :wink:
I never knew that Del Shannon did Needles and Pins! What I know was the original artist of this song was Jackie DeShannon. The Searchers did a cover which was a bigger hit (the Searchers' recordings are 90% cover tunes).
I am a fan of Charles Westover a.k.a. Del Shannon. Runaway will always be a firm favorite plus Hats Of To Larry and Keep Searchin'.
His covers of the Outsider's "Time Won't Let Me" and Brian Hyland's "The Joker Went Wild" is also good.
Incidentally, Del was the original artist (he wrote it) of "I Go To Pieces" in which the Peter & Gordon cover is the more popular cover.
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on January 01, 2011, 10:52:32 PM
I never knew that Del Shannon did Needles and Pins! What I know was the original artist of this song was Jackie DeShannon. The Searchers did a cover which was a bigger hit (the Searchers' recordings are 90% cover tunes).
I am a fan of Charles Westover a.k.a. Del Shannon. Runaway will always be a firm favorite plus Hats Of To Larry and Keep Searchin'.
His covers of the Outsider's "Time Won't Let Me" and Brian Hyland's "The Joker Went Wild" is also good.
Incidentally, Del was the original artist (he wrote it) of "I Go To Pieces" in which the Peter & Gordon cover is the more popular cover.
Yes Del Shannon did bro.. But I like the version of Smokie too.
I go to pieces.. another great song from the era
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on January 03, 2011, 07:42:30 AM
:-)
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on January 03, 2011, 08:28:32 AM
If people ask me what are my musical roots, I say that the music of the '50s, '60s, '70s and classic rock and soul. You could never go wrong with that for me. I grew up in the '80s were Punk, New Wave were all the rage in my side of town they were my "coming of age" music.
That being said, the music of the '60s still affects my outlook as a professional musician. With all the Justin Biebers, Lady Gagas, Bruno Marz, Rihanna dominating the charts, you start to wonder - the records of today sounds so processed, with only chords less than the blues, all artificial sounds. Synthesizers were still in its infancy in the '60s and are very very unreliable, sequencers were alien to them so the music you hear on those '60s records are done by real musicians.
The '60s was an era that the artists demand that they themselves write and record their own original compositions. That was unheard of in the '50s (until a certain Paul Anka came with "Diana") were all the singers were branded as "vocal stylists" or "interpreters" only. The '60s changed that, with brilliant composers like Bob Dylan, Lennon-McCartney, Jagger-Richards, everything demands a high standard of musicianship, musicality, arrangement. Besides of course you have to be excellent live performers.
Here are the artists of the '60s that shaped my musical roots: 1. The Beatles 2. Herman's Hermits 3. John Smith And The New Sound 4. Petula Clark (I finally got her autograph on one of her albums in 2008!) 5. The Zombies 6. The Ventures 7. The Shadows 8. The Jimi Hendrix Experience 9. Gary Puckett and the Union Gap ('60s white soul like the Righteous Brothers) 10.The Temptations 11.The Monkees 12.The Dave Clark Five (but lately, I've been getting bad news about them especially Dave Clark being a douchebag for refusing to release the recordings) 13.The Bee Gees (before those malaria falsettos, hehehehehe, they wrote some very melodic pop music mixed with baroque influenced strings) 14.The Outsiders 15.The Turtles 16.The Hollies 17.Peter And Gordon 18.The Association 19.The Beach Boys 20.The Wonders (! Ha! para lang mapuno yung 20! Hehehehehe)
I hope we can stage a sequel to the Beatles event last Sunday. This would take things to a higher level, slowly but surely more musical dreams will be fulfilled.
Did Gary Pucket only hit the charts once? with the timeless Young Girl?
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Mocho on January 03, 2011, 01:23:01 PM
Have you heard the band "Fanny"? Stumbled upon it on the iTunes store a few years ago. Did a little web search, apparently sila yung all first female rock group. Ang dalawang founding members ay sisters who were from the (drumroll...) Philippines! The family emigrated to the US, i guess in the 50's, but they were born here. Bilib daw si George Harrison sa kanila :-o
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: burnsbhm on January 03, 2011, 05:44:50 PM
Have you heard the band "Fanny"? Stumbled upon it on the iTunes store a few years ago. Did a little web search, apparently sila yung all first female rock group. Ang dalawang founding members ay sisters who were from the (drumroll...) Philippines! The family emigrated to the US, i guess in the 50's, but they were born here. Bilib daw si George Harrison sa kanila :-o
You're talking about June and Jean Millington (bassist and guitarist respectively). They were the second all-female rock group to sign to a major label next to Goldie and the Gingerbreads. Fanny signed to Reprise records in 1970.
I guess it would be loads better if we feature the Gingerbreads instead because they were from the 60s.
AND! Can someone post something about another all-female sisters band The Shaggs. Tagged as the worst band ever to release a record but became highly influential in the grunge era. Their only album released in 1969 was reissued in the 90s. Their sound was so bad they made the Velvet Underground sound like Dream Theater!
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: CeL1916 on January 03, 2011, 08:17:05 PM
yeah! 60's music is really good..
nakikinig din ako ng from 70's.. di ko nga lang trip yung mga 80's new wave! ewan ko baket! hehe..
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Endshiftresign! on January 04, 2011, 01:19:25 AM
we're not worthy! we're not worthy! :-D
at akala ko "expert" na ako sa obscure '60s stuff. kudos to bryan/burnsbhm for sharing this valuable info! ngayon ko lang nalaman yung ibang mga facts na pinost mo.
haven't heard goldie and the gingerbreads yet, pero alam ko eto yung banda ng manager ng dead boys. the shaggs? mas lalo na yan. am currently reading their wikipedia entry...and if kurt cobain and frank zappa think highly of them, i'd probably do good to check 'em out for curiosity's sake. :-D
speaking of "so bad they're good" bands, you may also want to check out the mops, a '60s garage band from japan. they're best known for "i'm just a mops", a track from the second "nuggets" box set, which featured garage bands from outside the US, mostly from the UK and the rest of europe but including a few from south america, and this one from japan. undoubtedly one of the "best" bands when it came to mangling the english language. even downloaded an album of theirs from 1967 or 1968, and had quite a laugh listening to their covers of "the letter", "light my fire" (which sounded like "kamanbebe right my fa-yarrrr"), "san franciscan nights" (complete with short "speech" in barok english about why they like eric burdon and the animals) and several others. half of the album has original songs written in japanese, which are pretty good in a good way, including one with the unfortunate english title and chorus line "please kill me", which they naturally pronounced as "pris kirr me"... :D
search for "psychedelic sounds of the mops" on torrent and you'll see what i mean...
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: Jaco D on January 04, 2011, 02:54:34 AM
at akala ko "expert" na ako sa obscure '60s stuff. kudos to bryan/burnsbhm for sharing this valuable info! ngayon ko lang nalaman yung ibang mga facts na pinost mo.
haven't heard goldie and the gingerbreads yet, pero alam ko eto yung banda ng manager ng dead boys. the shaggs? mas lalo na yan. am currently reading their wikipedia entry...and if kurt cobain and frank zappa think highly of them, i'd probably do good to check 'em out for curiosity's sake. :-D
speaking of "so bad they're good" bands, you may also want to check out the mops, a '60s garage band from japan. they're best known for "i'm just a mops", a track from the second "nuggets" box set, which featured garage bands from outside the US, mostly from the UK and the rest of europe but including a few from south america, and this one from japan. undoubtedly one of the "best" bands when it came to mangling the english language. even downloaded an album of theirs from 1967 or 1968, and had quite a laugh listening to their covers of "the letter", "light my fire" (which sounded like "kamanbebe right my fa-yarrrr"), "san franciscan nights" (complete with short "speech" in barok english about why they like eric burdon and the animals) and several others. half of the album has original songs written in japanese, which are pretty good in a good way, including one with the unfortunate english title and chorus line "please kill me", which they naturally pronounced as "pris kirr me"... :D
search for "psychedelic sounds of the mops" on torrent and you'll see what i mean...
Laugh trip, I'm actually singing it, haha. A few years ago I was singing a chorus line again & again, "Hello, I love you won't you tell me your name". I thought I stumbled upon an original song of mine (I actually started writing song lyrics back then albeit crappy). And then I stumbled upon The Doors, :-D it was childhood memory lang pala yung bumalik sa akin.
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Post by: Endshiftresign! on January 04, 2011, 11:27:10 PM
just listened to the shaggs earlier today, and boy, do they sound awful. :lol: accurate nga yung "lobotomized von trapp singers" na description sa kanila...i believe that was from a rolling stone review. but there's a certain quirkiness to their lyrics and delivery that gives them value somehow.
their original stuff is mostly disharmonious (though not noisy) stuff about parents, halloween, the "philosophy of the world" (title of their first album) and a missing pet, but they have an interesting, albeit off-key version of the carpenters' "yesterday once more" from the second album, which was recorded sometime in the '70s but only released in the '80s...
the shaggs were composed of the wiggin sisters - dorothy (vocals/guitar), betty (vocals/guitar), rachel (bass - only in the 2nd album) and helen (drums). helen passed away a few years ago and declined to attend their 1999 reunion gig as she was suffering from depression. the drummer of NRBQ (aka former simpsons writer/producer mike scully's favorite band) took over for that gig. apparently their dad was the one calling the shots and the one who forced them to learn how to play instruments and make an album. when he died in 1975, that effectively ended the shaggs' career. based on what i read, he wasn't too all together up there...supposedly had a prophetic vision as a young man that he'd marry a strawberry blonde and that he'd make a hit record with his daughters. first prediction came true, the second apparently didn't.
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Post by: burnsbhm on January 04, 2011, 11:37:44 PM
just listened to the shaggs earlier today, and boy, do they sound awful. :lol: accurate nga yung "lobotomized von trapp singers" na description sa kanila...i believe that was from a rolling stone review. but there's a certain quirkiness to their lyrics and delivery that gives them value somehow.
their original stuff is mostly disharmonious (though not noisy) stuff about parents, halloween, the "philosophy of the world" (title of their first album) and a missing pet, but they have an interesting, albeit off-key version of the carpenters' "yesterday once more" from the second album, which was recorded sometime in the '70s but only released in the '80s...
the shaggs were composed of the wiggin sisters - dorothy (vocals/guitar), betty (vocals/guitar), rachel (bass - only in the 2nd album) and helen (drums). helen passed away a few years ago and declined to attend their 1999 reunion gig as she was suffering from depression. the drummer of NRBQ (aka former simpsons writer/producer mike scully's favorite band) took over for that gig. apparently their dad was the one calling the shots and the one who forced them to learn how to play instruments and make an album. when he died in 1975, that effectively ended the shaggs' career. based on what i read, he wasn't too all together up there...supposedly had a prophetic vision as a young man that he'd marry a strawberry blonde and that he'd make a hit record with his daughters. first prediction came true, the second apparently didn't.
Ang tawag sa ganiyang genre is OUTSIDER MUSIC - music that is not meant to be understood let alone achieve commercial attention. Probably the best proponent of outsider music is Captain Beefheart. The best advocate is Frank Zappa. But then I would not call Zappa's music outsider because there is a lot of conventional things in his music.
I would like to believe - IMVHO - the pioneer of outsider music is Avante Garde composer John Cage. His most OUTSIDE composition is 4:30 written for the piano (well it can be easily arranged for any instrument without the need for rewriting the score). Once you were able to listen to this tune, please tell me your impressions about it!
I told you, yung The Shaggs are EXTREMELY terrible! But they have a following! If people think the musicianship of the Eraserheads is terrible, give the Shaggs a spin!
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: dariusbabylon on January 05, 2011, 12:27:03 AM
I once played John Cage's 4:33 on the las pinas bamboo organ! Effortlessly!
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Post by: burnsbhm on January 05, 2011, 01:03:00 AM
Looks like all those cds are from the EMI label a......Is this an indication of things to come?
Yeah EMI bro...
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: slowhandpal on January 14, 2011, 06:58:05 AM
I got a message from Enzo guys we may as well plan early for a gig (60s) he tentatively schedule this June on this thread. Lets keep this thread alive :wink:
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Post by: slowhandpal on March 07, 2011, 06:54:35 AM
We should start talking now..
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Post by: Endshiftresign! on March 11, 2011, 11:59:11 PM
ma-up ko nga ito...i'm "rebooting" my '60s-influenced band (largely due to a lack of bassists and to make things more open para sa mga nahihirapang bumiyahe sa cubao) and getting totally new members, preferably, for this brit rock/garage/psychedelia-influenced project. baka may mga interesado dito na hindi dumadayo masyado sa MW...link to my thread is below.
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: KASALANAN on April 05, 2011, 10:51:01 AM
walang nag mention ng 13th floor elevators :-)
Title: Re: 1960's Rock Roots
Post by: burnsbhm on April 06, 2011, 04:57:14 AM
Ok, let us be a bit adventurous. Since we are getting a bit deeper into it. Let us see if you guys can share any info about these artists:
1. The Celtics 2. The Technicolors 3. Chris Solano and D' Swooners 4. Tony Trias and the Frolics 5. The Fabulous Echos 6. The Quests 7. The Electromaniacs (mediyo madali ito) 8. The Coronets (eto rin) 9. The Tilt Down Men (eto rin) 10. The Grandells 11. RS and the Lumberjacks 12. The Firedons 13. The RP Typhoons 14. The Spotnicks 15. The Eagles
Fire away lads!
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Post by: Endshiftresign! on April 06, 2011, 06:37:35 AM
wow, meron pala tayong "the eagles" nung '60s... :lol: the only bands i'm familiar with here are the tilt down men (featuring tito sotto on vocals and val sotto on bass) and the electromaniacs, whose guitarist, ernie delgado (did i get the first name right?), is the father of weedd's ej delgado.
i believe all these bands have some brief descriptions on pinoyclassicrock.com pero matagal na akong di dumaan dun...
also, wasn't jaime jose, who was one of the four men who raped maggie dela riva, a "combo" musician too back in the day? and does anyone have information on late '60s and early '70s guitarist sammy climaco and the bands he played with? he was a HS batchmate of my dad back in the late '60s...
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Post by: burnsbhm on April 09, 2011, 11:16:00 PM
wow, meron pala tayong "the eagles" nung '60s... :lol: the only bands i'm familiar with here are the tilt down men (featuring tito sotto on vocals and val sotto on bass) and the electromaniacs, whose guitarist, ernie delgado (did i get the first name right?), is the father of weedd's ej delgado.
i believe all these bands have some brief descriptions on pinoyclassicrock.com pero matagal na akong di dumaan dun...
also, wasn't jaime jose, who was one of the four men who raped maggie dela riva, a "combo" musician too back in the day? and does anyone have information on late '60s and early '70s guitarist sammy climaco and the bands he played with? he was a HS batchmate of my dad back in the late '60s...
Well the Eagles in the 60s are not to be confused with Eagles of the 70s. American "Hotel California" Eagles have no definite article in their name officially. The Eagles of the 60s are a band from Bristol that plays mainly instrumental rock like the Ventures and The Shadows. Their most popular tunes are their cover of March Of The Eagles and Scarlett O'Hara.
Well the Eagles in the 60s are not to be confused with Eagles of the 70s. American "Hotel California" Eagles have no definite article in their name officially. The Eagles of the 60s are a band from Bristol that plays mainly instrumental rock like the Ventures and The Shadows. Their most popular tunes are their cover of March Of The Eagles and Scarlett O'Hara.
ah, so british band pala ang eagles nung '60s. my bad. reminds me of one compilation i downloaded a couple years back, featuring mostly semi-obscure late '50s and early '60s songs (i.e. mga di umabot sa billboard top 10 and not by super-popular artists)...one of the songs was by a group called the temptations, which turned out to be an all-white doo-wop group from new york, not the all-black R&B/soul group from detroit... :D
also, i believe there was a band called the scorpions na taga-UK...one of those very obscure '60s bands i keep discovering thanks to my recent deep-dives into no-hit wonder (yet nonetheless great) '60s music... :-D and the reason the british alternative/indie group the charlatans are referred to as "the charlatans UK" in america is because of the garage/folk rock group of the same name who appear in the "nuggets" compilation...
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Post by: burnsbhm on April 10, 2011, 02:29:18 AM
ah, so british band pala ang eagles nung '60s. my bad. reminds me of one compilation i downloaded a couple years back, featuring mostly semi-obscure late '50s and early '60s songs (i.e. mga di umabot sa billboard top 10 and not by super-popular artists)...one of the songs was by a group called the temptations, which turned out to be an all-white doo-wop group from new york, not the all-black R&B/soul group from detroit... :D
also, i believe there was a band called the scorpions na taga-UK...one of those very obscure '60s bands i keep discovering thanks to my recent deep-dives into no-hit wonder (yet nonetheless great) '60s music... :-D and the reason the british alternative/indie group the charlatans are referred to as "the charlatans UK" in america is because of the garage/folk rock group of the same name who appear in the "nuggets" compilation...
We do not need to be surprised at bands/musical groups with same names. It will only be a problem if the artists are of the same nationality.
Since di pa nasasagot ang previous enumerations ko, I would just like to mention about band/group names that has been used more than once:
oh, how could i forget...the UK nirvana who sued their more famous US counterparts back in the early '90s. and skid row...gary moore's first band, if i'm not mistaken? (of course we all know about the more current, and famous skid row, whose vocalist shares almost the same name as one of the greatest classical musicians of all time. :-D )