Personal crash cymbals (upgrade)

[im_dabi]

Magandang araw po mga fellow musicians, matagal ko na po gamit ang 16" planet z ko as my personal crash sa out of office gigs. Sa tulong po at blessings ni Lord, nakaipon na po ako and ready to buy my upgrade sa jb. Im considering A custom, k dark or k custom hybrid. Hihingi lang po ako ng inputs sa mga nakapag upgrade na, is it ok to still buy a 16 crash as my personal, or should i consider an 18 inch crash? Typical drummer lang po ang setup ko, hats crash and ride. Salamat in advance sa mga tips nyo.

[harugrugrug]

Kung pang Bahay lang,Oks na 16 for me,pang labas I usually go for 18 or 19 na crash,hehe,most of the venue e walang mic or kick Lang naka mic.

[uy12umainer]

Subukan mo muna yung cymbals before you buy di guaranteed na pag a custom, k or k hybrid yan maganda na ang tunog niyan try mo din istanbul mehmet mas mura di ka pa magsisisi dati solid zildjian ako pero nung nakasubok ako ng istanbul magsswitch na ako ehehe

[jckazs]

Ano hats and ride mo? I suggest yun muna upgrade mo in case hindi pa ok. +1 sa istanbul mehmet sa lazer o used sa classifieds natin

[im_dabi]

Salamat sir harugrugrug. Kayo din ang nahingian ko  ng expert tips nung snare pa lang ang binibili ko hehe

Kung pang Bahay lang,Oks na 16 for me,pang labas I usually go for 18 or 19 na crash,hehe,most of the venue e walang mic or kick Lang naka mic.

[im_dabi]

Mga sir, salamat sa tips. Papakingan ko sound nyan istanbul sa youtube.

Bale active ako sa musicians club sa office kaya panay gigs nila out of office. Wala ako kit, meron lang ako sonor snare na binili din dito philmusic. Una ko naipundar na crash is planet z 16inches.

[gss]

Mga sir, salamat sa tips. Papakingan ko sound nyan istanbul sa youtube.

Bale active ako sa musicians club sa office kaya panay gigs nila out of office. Wala ako kit, meron lang ako sonor snare na binili din dito philmusic. Una ko naipundar na crash is planet z 16inches.

Good luck sir, ok yung mga advice na naka-post. Sana makuha mo yung gusto mo. Marami din magandang post na cymbals sa classifieds. As advised, ok yung 18in for your needs...you can go to jb pero wag ka muna bumili until na compare mo na with the other items sa ibang stores, including those na for sale dito.

[nickmar]

Mga sir, salamat sa tips. Papakingan ko sound nyan istanbul sa youtube.

Bale active ako sa musicians club sa office kaya panay gigs nila out of office. Wala ako kit, meron lang ako sonor snare na binili din dito philmusic. Una ko naipundar na crash is planet z 16inches.

pm sent bro lahat ng crash na hanap mo meron ako. brand new pero presyong 2nd hand salamat

[harugrugrug]

Salamat sir harugrugrug. Kayo din ang nahingian ko  ng expert tips nung snare pa lang ang binibili ko hehe

No prob.😄

[Ralph_Petrucci]

my advice bro, tingin ka muna ng second hand sa fb drum groups at classifieds dito sa PM. almost half the price from JB prices.

[gss]

my advice bro, tingin ka muna ng second hand sa fb drum groups at classifieds dito sa PM. almost half the price from JB prices.

nadali mo sir ang ibig kong sabihin : ) thanks for the clarification...kung pinaghirapan ipunin ang pambili, dapat din paghirapan ang pagpili para sulit ang gastos

[Ralph_Petrucci]

nadali mo sir ang ibig kong sabihin : ) thanks for the clarification...kung pinaghirapan ipunin ang pambili, dapat din paghirapan ang pagpili para sulit ang gastos

late ko nadiskubre ang classifieds sa PM, nagsisisi ako. eh di sana hindi na ako dumaan sa planet Z at zbt na overpriced sa JB

[firemodel55]

Magandang araw po mga fellow musicians, matagal ko na po gamit ang 16" planet z ko as my personal crash sa out of office gigs. Sa tulong po at blessings ni Lord, nakaipon na po ako and ready to buy my upgrade sa jb. Im considering A custom, k dark or k custom hybrid. Hihingi lang po ako ng inputs sa mga nakapag upgrade na, is it ok to still buy a 16 crash as my personal, or should i consider an 18 inch crash? Typical drummer lang po ang setup ko, hats crash and ride. Salamat in advance sa mga tips nyo.

I think its less of WHAT model the cymbal is but rather determining whether that SPECIFIC cymbal sounds good to the ears.  I have spent some significant time going around locally trying out Brands of Cymbals and 80-90% of them sound like Crap.

Its NOT unusual to find cymbals of the same model sound totally different -- one much better than the other.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

I think its less of WHAT model the cymbal is but rather determining whether that SPECIFIC cymbal sounds good to the ears.  I have spent some significant time going around locally trying out Brands of Cymbals and 80-90% of them sound like Crap.

Its NOT unusual to find cymbals of the same model sound totally different -- one much better than the other.

true, I just dont agree on the stat rate. i mean, it takes a long time to really find that super sweet cymbal. i think puro bago ang natetest mo alex sa stores kaya "crap" sounding. pero a cymbal kasi has a break-in period for me. also, what you hear in front of you does not necessarily sound the same when listened from a distance (i.e. A Custom Projection/Oriental Trash: pangit sa tenga ng drummer, pero pag audience ka, it sounds great)

[firemodel55]

true, I just dont agree on the stat rate. i mean, it takes a long time to really find that super sweet cymbal. i think puro bago ang natetest mo alex sa stores kaya "crap" sounding. pero a cymbal kasi has a break-in period for me. also, what you hear in front of you does not necessarily sound the same when listened from a distance (i.e. A Custom Projection/Oriental Trash: pangit sa tenga ng drummer, pero pag audience ka, it sounds great)

Its not just the new ones I tested though...  The problem with buying a cymbal is that we tend to buy without audience participation or is just limited to you and the salesman; so as a result, we try to find a cymbal that sounds good BOTH in front of you and at a distance.

[fretboard]

sorry for gatecrashing

ralph and alex got good points

but how do we really achieve the sound we're looking for a cymbals if we got a very limited space and poor SALESROOM ACOUSTICS especially here in the

philippines. what's the SOP in buying cymbals?

well, when i got the chance to play around in guitar center the block (orange county), they asked me to choose the cymbals set that i like then

set it up with a porta-drums to get the FEEL, then and there,

they asked me to play along with a metronome and  allowed me to smash the cymbals as hard as i can,

even my kids had a run with the kit and i heard them from a distance.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

Its not just the new ones I tested though...  The problem with buying a cymbal is that we tend to buy without audience participation or is just limited to you and the salesman; so as a result, we try to find a cymbal that sounds good BOTH in front of you and at a distance.

I do agree with this one, and otep's points.

acoustics in local stores are bad. lalo na sa JB, tiled room so grabe ang reverb. what you might take for a nice decay on the cymbal might be the room helping out.

[sonicassault]

I do agree with this one, and otep's points.

acoustics in local stores are bad. lalo na sa JB, tiled room so grabe ang reverb. what you might take for a nice decay on the cymbal might be the room helping out.

you can also try "channeling out" the reverb of the room, focusing just on the cymbal's sound, but that's hit or miss. It works sometimes on more focused cymbals like bright crashes and pingy rides, but will almost never work for complex cymbals like dry rides and chinas (for example my SH 16" china sounds great everywhere except where it is now)