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« Reply #375 on: February 02, 2012, 02:00:47 AM »
Syet na malagket, Jaze. Teach me, master.  :drool:
nyeh... ako paturo ng lap steel and slide. Hanggang ngayon hirap parin ako sa slide hehe  :-D

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« Reply #376 on: February 02, 2012, 08:03:15 AM »
nyeh... ako paturo ng lap steel and slide. Hanggang ngayon hirap parin ako sa slide hehe  :-D


Ngek! I'm just a hack.  :lol:
Meng, merong plano kaming mag get together ng mga SoCal boys sa bahay on Feb 18, Saturday.  Baka puede ka.

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« Reply #377 on: February 02, 2012, 09:10:03 AM »

Ngek! I'm just a hack.  :lol:
Meng, merong plano kaming mag get together ng mga SoCal boys sa bahay on Feb 18, Saturday.  Baka puede ka.
cge boss check ko rin yung sched ko. tnx :)

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« Reply #378 on: February 02, 2012, 02:35:38 PM »
cge boss check ko rin yung sched ko. tnx :)

Cool! Pasubok ng Jazzmaster pag pumwede ka, please.  :-D

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« Reply #379 on: February 04, 2012, 02:49:36 PM »
Meet the family. Mostly cheapo offsets. No Fenders... yet.
Offset guitars for life.


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« Reply #380 on: February 04, 2012, 10:20:39 PM »
Cool! Pasubok ng Jazzmaster pag pumwede ka, please.  :-D
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Re: Jaguar/Jazzmaster/Mustang/Jagstang/offset waist guitar thread!
« Reply #381 on: February 05, 2012, 07:09:11 AM »
My most favorite offset slinger ever:


pamatay!

just a quick  jam...
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ayus sa jazzy bro  :-D

Meet the family. Mostly cheapo offsets. No Fenders... yet.


type ko yung fernandes mo pre...kahit yung custom jag(on the left) wala bang mga killer demos/video?  :)
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« Reply #382 on: February 05, 2012, 03:51:17 PM »
Meet the family. Mostly cheapo offsets. No Fenders... yet.


Kayo po ba yung kumanta nung "Missionaries on Rural Transit"?  :-D

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« Reply #383 on: February 05, 2012, 04:51:17 PM »
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Kayo po ba yung kumanta nung "Missionaries on Rural Transit"?

oo nga ano ba yung banda ni TreblinkaLovescene? may nakita ako ah..MONOCHROME yung banda..ok din tugtugan...

@Teblinkalovescene, where will you be getting your Fender Jazzmaster or Jaguar? papa ship ka via the middlemen shippers here? Gusto ko din..parang hirap kasi makachamba ng mga offsets sa PGT at Dito sa Classifieds..tsk...kung meron man..Japanese built...haaaay..
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« Reply #384 on: February 05, 2012, 06:12:06 PM »
@treblinkalovescene..

are you planning to purchase a mexican jag? classic player or US?
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« Reply #385 on: February 06, 2012, 02:15:50 AM »
@shoegazer: Yes. That's my band. That demo was from 2007 though. Horrible. I didn't play guitar in that demo. I just (horribly) sang.

@gandydancer123: Monochrome are good live and have huge ass pedalboards. All of them. As for the future Fender, I'm looking to get a Japanese one actually. Truth is I'd want to get a CP, either a Jaguar HH in olympic white or a black JM. For the sake of availability, the MIJ ones aren't bad either. The purple sparkle Mascis is nice but I'll take whatever JM is tossed my way when I have the money. If I get a good deal, I'll spend the rest of my Fender budget on a Mastery bridge.
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« Reply #386 on: February 06, 2012, 05:21:46 AM »
The purple sparkle Mascis is nice but I'll take whatever JM is tossed my way when I have the money.

Apologies to current Japanese-made J Mascis Jazzmaster users. I've had this guitar before and I think that it has a design that has not been thoroughly thought of. It has a very thick, 7.25 radius neck coupled with a 9.5 radius tune-o-matic bridge. I couldn't properly setup the action across the fret board. The high and low E strings are higher than the rest because of the neck's convex curvature and the bridge's flatter radius.  Although the jumbo frets compensated for that, it was, speaking for myself, awkward to play.
I think the new Squier J. Mascis JM is a much better bet. It's cheaper, well crafted, and has a 9.5 T-O-M on a 9.5 neck. There's some news going around that Squier will also release the sparkle edition. Now that would be cool.
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« Reply #387 on: February 06, 2012, 05:30:41 AM »
@shoegazer: Yes. That's my band. That demo was from 2007 though. Horrible. I didn't play guitar in that demo. I just (horribly) sang.

@gandydancer123: Monochrome are good live and have huge ass pedalboards. All of them. As for the future Fender, I'm looking to get a Japanese one actually. Truth is I'd want to get a CP, either a Jaguar HH in olympic white or a black JM. For the sake of availability, the MIJ ones aren't bad either. The purple sparkle Mascis is nice but I'll take whatever JM is tossed my way when I have the money. If I get a good deal, I'll spend the rest of my Fender budget on a Mastery bridge.

I met the guitarist of Monochrome last month. He's a cool guy..met him because he bought some of my sonic youth cds. We also talked about his guitars - certified offset lover din. I also mentioned you Francis and he's familiar with your work with Mount Analogue...ayus - mastery bridge!!! (all i can do is drool....may nagooffer sa kin sa offsetguitars.com kaso di ko afford)

@gandydancer123: inaapi mo Japanese made offset guitars a - marami natatamaan dito...grrrrr  :-D hahahahaha.....gusto mo atang madagdagan ng dent yang brand new guitar mo  :-D di mo nakwento sa kin yang bago mo
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« Reply #388 on: February 06, 2012, 08:02:25 AM »
Apologies to current Japanese-made J Mascis Jazzmaster users. I've had this guitar before and I think that it has a design that has not been thoroughly thought of. It has a very thick, 7.25 radius neck coupled with a 9.5 radius tune-o-matic bridge. I couldn't properly setup the action across the fret board. The high and low E strings are higher than the rest because of the neck's convex curvature and the bridge's flatter radius.  Although the jumbo frets compensated for that, it was, speaking for myself, awkward to play.
I think the new Squier J. Mascis JM is a much better bet. It's cheaper, well crafted, and has a 9.5 T-O-M on a 9.5 neck. There's some news going around that Squier will also release the sparkle edition. Now that would be cool.

How's the feel on the Squier JMJM? I heavily considered it at one point but considering the amount of upgrades I'd have to spend for, I might as well get a Fender. If I spent extra money on a refin or a pickguard change, I could probably just wait it out until someone starts selling a good CP or MIJ here. I didn't know that about the purple sparkle. Apparently, I'm sideways disappointed. :( I guess I'm looking for a vintage Jap or a CP then. Either way, I'ma have to look for a good deal and then spending the rest on a Mastery.

oo nga ano ba yung banda ni TreblinkaLovescene?

Treblinka is an acoustic thing. I do a synthpop thing called Love in Athens (my PGT username) and my main band's an indie rock band called Mount Analogue. We love offsets there too.
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« Reply #389 on: February 06, 2012, 08:31:27 AM »
Missionaries on Rural Transit...

http://numberline.bandcamp.com/track/missionaries-on-rural-transit-demo  (Listen to our friends song here)

@treblinkalovescene..WOW! hanep! listening to it now...ilan kayo sa band?


Eh eto...

Check out this beautifully relic'd mosrite clone..

http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=256771.0

Medyo naaaddict pa naman ako sa RAMONES and thier history lately...



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« Reply #390 on: February 06, 2012, 09:15:11 AM »
post links naman sa music nyo.... :) :) :) :) :)







Climbing Mount Analogue
By Gary Lachman




Sometime in the year 1924 a precocious French poet named René Daumal had a mystical experience that became the determining event of his life.

Soaking a handkerchief in carbon tetrachloride— a powerful anesthetic he used for his beetle collection— the sixteen-year-old Daumal held it to his nostrils and inhaled. Instantly he felt himself “thrown brutally into another world,” a strange other dimension of geometric forms and incomprehensible sounds, in which his mind “traveled too fast to drag words along with it” (Daumal, Powers of the Word 164).

It was his first encounter with what he would later call “absurd evidence”— “proof” that another existence lies beyond the conscious mind. Obsessed with the mystery of death, René was determined to peek at “the great beyond.” When the anesthetizing effects of the fumes proved too great, René’s hand would drop from his face. He would then regain consciousness, his mind reeling— and his head aching— from its recent plunge into somewhere else.

René repeated his experiment many times, sometimes alone, sometimes with friends, always with the same result: the conviction that he had briefly entered“another world,” one infinitely more real than our everyday reality. He may have taken his trip hundreds of times, and it is almost certain that his repeated use of carbon tetrachloride started the weakening of his lungs that led to his deathf rom tuberculosis in 1944 at the age of 36.

If all René Daumal did in his short life was to experiment with drugs and write poetry, he probably would not be remembered today, except by students of obscure French literature. But unlike so many other youthful travelers into “the beyond,” before his death Daumal managed to capture some of the insights gleamed from his dangerous interior journeys. Nowhere did Daumal come closer to communicating most clearly something of the strange “other” reality that he observed in his harmful adolescent experiments and dedicated his life to penetrating than in his last, unfinished novel, Mount Analogue (1952).

Symbolizing a “way to truth” that “cannot not exist,” Mount Analogue towers above the everyday world like a spiritual Everest. An ardent climber, by the time he tried to make this metaphysical ascent, Daumal had added a few items to his alpinist’s gear. Jettisoning the uncertain “heights” of drugs by 1939, when he first contemplated the novel, Daumal had been for many years a student of the teachings of the enigmatic Armenian G. I. Gurdjieff, communicated through Gurdjieff’s long time disciples Alexandre and Jeanne de Salzmann.


Mount Analogue

Subtitled A Novel of Symbolically Authentic Non-Euclidean Adventures in Mountain Climbing, like all good parables, Mount Analogue resists final interpretation. A riveting adventure story, it is also a modern day Pilgrim’s Progress. The plot is simple. Led by the Professor of Mountaineering, Pierre Sogol (de Salzmann), eight adventurers board the yacht Impossible to discover the invisible but “absolutely real” Mount Analogue. Though it is hidden from ordinary eyes, Sogol pinpoints its location through a series of supra-logical deductions involving the curvature of space.

Convinced of the necessity of Mount Analogue’s existence, the crew eventually arrive, set up camp, and begin the ascent, along the way discovering the strange, nearly invisible crystals called “peradams.” These symbolize the rare and difficult truths discovered on the spiritual path, and reflect Daumal’s own lucid, limpid prose. There are insightful studies of the different voyagers— embodying Gurdjieff’s classification of types— a fascinating portrait of de Salzmann, and penetrating analyses of Western civilization.

Although the book’s fragmentary character is in keeping with Gurdjieff’s “work”— Ouspenksy’s own masterpiece In Search of the Miraculous was originally titled Fragments of an Unknown Teaching— the fact that Daumal did not live to complete it is a tragedy. And yet, when we look at Daumal’s brief but eventful life, it somehow seems fitting that this spiritual voyage of discovery would be cut short. There is no question of Daumal’s dedication to his goals or the integrity of his pursuit. But his approach to the higher regions took more perilous routes than were necessary.

Of his youthful drug experiences, Daumal (Powers of the Word 169) wrote that, if “in return for the acceptance of serious illness or disabilities, or of a very perceptible abbreviation of the physical life-span, we could acquire one certainty, it would not be too high a price to pay.” In scaling Mount Analogue, Daumal was as courageous as any terrestrial climber, yet there is a strain of spiritual and physical masochism in his credo. Others who followed Gurdjieff’s Spartan path were similarly neglectful of the flesh.

For Daumal, the idea that the absolute was some inaccessible region started early. That a teenage Daumal would make “crazy” attempts to reach “the beyond”is understandable, but that he should persist in later years suggests immaturity and an irresponsible attitude to his health. The fact that the heights of Mount Analogue are invisible, and the yacht his adventurers board is named Impossible, argues that even after Daumal had moved beyond his dubious experiments with drugs, he continued in the same mind. In choosing a mountain as the locale of his last, great effort, Daumal certainly had the rigors of Gurdjieff’s “work” in view. Sadly, it may have been precisely this punishing attitude to attaining the spiritual heights that helped bring about his tragic,untimely death.

Yet such considerations should not prevent us from appreciating his work.Since its rediscovery in the 1960s, Mount Analogue has remained one of the classics of “metaphysical adventure,” a spur to thousands of spiritual travelers, prodded out of their armchairs by its surprisingly restrained account of Daumal’s last conscious excursion into the unknown. Perhaps aware that he would soon be taking an even more mysterious voyage, Daumal made sure that he left as clear a trail as possible for those who followed.

Before his death, he left an outline of the novel’s remaining chapters. “At the end,” he said, “ I want to speak at length of one of the basic laws of Mount Analogue. To reach the summit, one must proceed from encampment to encampment. But before setting out for the next refuge, one must prepare those coming after to occupy the place one is leaving. Only after having prepared them, can one goon up” (Mount Analogue 104). The title of this last chapter was to be “And You,What Do You Seek?” For all his detours and wrong turnings, with Mount Analogue Daumal undoubtedly left a valuable way station for all who would comeafter him.
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« Reply #391 on: February 06, 2012, 10:02:59 AM »
Dalawa kami sa Treblinkalovescene. Okay, sorry to post my stuff but you guys asked for it. :|

The Treblinka Love Scene (recorded with an RJ Jagmaster)
http://soundcloud.com/loveinathens/the-treblinka-love-scene-1

Love in Athens (no instruments, all synths)
http://soundcloud.com/loveinathens/love-in-athens-old-houses-sans

Mount Analogue (recorded with an Arcee Jagmaster)
http://soundcloud.com/loveinathens/mount-analogue-beautiful-in

Except for Athens, I mostly record with offsets. :3
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« Reply #392 on: February 06, 2012, 10:08:44 AM »
 treblinkalovescene thanks for sharing!!!! nakakasa na for afternoon delight..hehe
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« Reply #393 on: February 06, 2012, 10:23:16 AM »
OMG LUPIT NG TUGTUGAN NG ..MOUNT ANALOGUE...Galing!! sarap ear candy!!! with song titles like Kharmann Ghia...alam mo di ka magkakamali...great stuff..pucha..sarap siguro ng tugan ninyo paglive...I remeber nakwento mo na pag gig..total surrender ka sa music at sa pag guitar kahit magasgas at ma tamaan ng cymbal yung guitar basta enjoy sa pagkaskas....I like this type of playing...yung bigay na bigay ba..lalo medyo emotional yung pagkakaarrange ng music..


LOVE in Anthens naman pang upbeat feel good crowd...galing..Ganda ng when you sleep!...napakacreative nyo...

Mukhang magstick nalang ako sa Ramones type 3 chord songs...hahahaha di ko na kaya tong ganitong kalalim na musical technique! galing pucha!!


CHEERS MAN!
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« Reply #394 on: February 06, 2012, 10:25:40 AM »
When You Sleep

http://soundcloud.com/loveinathens/love-in-athens-when-you-sleep




GUYS YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO THIS!!!!!!!!!!! HEAD BOBBING GOODNESS!!!!
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« Reply #395 on: February 06, 2012, 10:29:12 AM »
When You Sleep

http://soundcloud.com/loveinathens/love-in-athens-when-you-sleep




GUYS YOU GOT TO LISTEN TO THIS!!!!!!!!!!! HEAD BOBBING GOODNESS!!!!

That's a My Bloody Valentine cover. A little tribute to offset icon, Kevin Shields. :)) Still convincing the girlfriend to sing over it.
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« Reply #396 on: February 06, 2012, 01:47:41 PM »
Hey, I strongly suggest you guys visit the classifieds. Teenage_Bandits is letting go of his AVRI Jaguar. If I had that money at the moment, I'd take it myself. :( If you're looking to trade, there's someone in the classifieds looking for an MIJ Strat or Tele in exchange for his Fernandes JG-65 Sustainer Lite (the one with humbuckers)

Links:

AVRI Jaguar for sale
http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=256963.0

Fernandes JG-65s for trade
http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=256224.0

Also, what about an offset fan meetup? Ano na ba nangyari sa Pinoy Offset Guitars Inc.? :))
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« Reply #397 on: February 06, 2012, 02:23:47 PM »
Also, what about an offset fan meetup? Ano na ba nangyari sa Pinoy Offset Guitars Inc.?

Me and PALTIC about this as well...yung tambay lang tayo sa coffee shop tapos guitar and stands and siguro some micro amp..tapos didisplay natin yung offsets natin for people to see..parang VW club or Vespa Club..hahaha

Sana...wala pa ako offset eh...anyway..plano plano..saya nyan!!!lalo sa mga high end na "JOINTS" tayo magtambay..nako po..magnet yan ng mga HOTTIES! hahahahahahaha...

And pinakinggan ko yung original When you sleep...mas nagenjoy ako sa Love in Athens..hehe
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« Reply #398 on: February 06, 2012, 02:41:34 PM »
Oh btw, my band's other guitar player uses an MIJ Mustang copy that I used to own. We're both offset fans! Our bass player's saving up for a Jazz Bass so that makes the three of us. :))

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« Reply #399 on: February 06, 2012, 02:47:41 PM »
there was 30k jaguar bass being sold sa classifieds a few weeks ago..make that a month ago..baka available pa..ganda!
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