I agree. I'm leaning towards the B8's though. I'm a Zildjian guy but hey, the B8 crash I used in a gig last week had a section chipped off yet still sounded great. If you're on a budget, the Sabian B8's or Zildjian zXt's will do nicely. You can even score a set for around 10k second hand if you wait for a good deal. If you have money however, then move on to the A Zildjians or Sabian AA's. (This is completely subjective though. In my opinion, I just see A's and AA's as diverse cymbals.)