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Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2006, 03:16:31 PM »
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200watts mono
tapos  use above 4ohms speaker ang nkalagay

ibig sabihin dalawang 100 watts na 8 ohms speaker lang ang kaya ng mixer amp.

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San nkakabili ng GRF speakers?

Sa Audiophile meron.

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mas ok ba ito sa wharfdale pro?

subukan mo nalang sa tindahan.

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magkano pala tong GRF speakers.

PR-310 - list price P10,420 per piece, pero underpowered ang mixer amp para dito.
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2006, 04:59:05 PM »
hindi bro, dalawang 200watts ang dapat ang dapat na speakers
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2006, 05:20:43 PM »
Thanks tarkuz! Nagkaproblem ako sa pag-bypass ng wharfedale speakers . Gusto ko kasi mag-biamp kaya i disabled the built in dividing network sa loob ng speakers, kaso hindi ko nga nagustuhan ang tunog kaya binalik ko sa dati, sa ngayon nag-full range na lang ulit ako.. bumili na lang ako ng Ultrabass Pro ng Behringer to drive my subs. So far ok pa naman, yun nga lang di ko talag mai-compare yung sounds sa ibang speakers na gamit ko.. Nung binuksan ko pala ang loob ay nadismaya ko sa liit ng magnet ng woofer at ng tweeter, napaka laki ng cone at enclosure, kumbaga yung 15" nila ay katumbas lang ng 12" na gamit ko.  Pero in fairness, maganda din naman yung ibang series nila gaya ng plastic enclosures, siguro nakatapat lang ako ng di maganda pro try nyo din i-check. Vinokulafu, with your budget, competitive na din ang Impulse Series ng Dai-1chi (yes, ok ito!) Payo ko lang wag kang bibili sa showroom nila sa Megamall, mahal dun, punta ka na lang sa Raon, hamak na mas mura. With regards to audiophile, dun ako bumibili ng amps (QSC) at Mixers (mackie). Nahaluan lang talaga ng Wharfedale yung set-up ko due to budget constraints. Pero sa susunod na pagbili ko, I'll try GRF siguro. Naka-attend ba kau ng PALMM 2006 show sa WTC, Pasay?
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2006, 05:31:50 PM »
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hindi bro, dalawang 200watts ang dapat ang dapat na speakers

kung ganon, ang power rating na dapat nakasulat sa mixer amp ay 400 watts mono into 4 ohms. please check very well...
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2006, 05:55:45 PM »
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Thanks tarkuz! Nagkaproblem ako sa pag-bypass ng wharfedale speakers . Gusto ko kasi mag-biamp kaya i disabled the built in dividing network sa loob ng speakers, kaso hindi ko nga nagustuhan ang tunog kaya binalik ko sa dati, sa ngayon nag-full range na lang ulit ako.. bumili na lang ako ng Ultrabass Pro ng Behringer to drive my subs. So far ok pa naman, yun nga lang di ko talag mai-compare yung sounds sa ibang speakers na gamit ko.. Nung binuksan ko pala ang loob ay nadismaya ko sa liit ng magnet ng woofer at ng tweeter, napaka laki ng cone at enclosure, kumbaga yung 15" nila ay katumbas lang ng 12" na gamit ko.  Pero in fairness, maganda din naman yung ibang series nila gaya ng plastic enclosures, siguro nakatapat lang ako ng di maganda pro try nyo din i-check.


Maganda sana ang iniisip mong gawin para mas malinis ang tunog pero hindi siguro designed pang bi-amp yung modelo na yan. Maaring may epekto rin ang akustiks ng simbahan sa tunog na ang sabi mo ay masama. Mura lang siguro ang speaker kaya maliit ang magnet, hehe. Sa pagbuo ng sound system, suggestion ko huwag sanang masyadong tipirin ang speaker kasi yan ang nagdadala ng tunog sa mga taong nakikinig. Sa mixer at processor nalang magtipid. Opinyon ko lang to ha!
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« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2006, 06:00:04 PM »
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Naka-attend ba kau ng PALMM 2006 show sa WTC, Pasay?

Nag attend ako nung unang araw lang. Hindi ako tumagal... sumakit ang tenga't ulo ko dahil sa ingay ng Pearl River. Napakaingay nila magpatunog ng sound system! Hindi ako nag enjoy... :evil:
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« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2006, 07:17:32 PM »
yEAH RYT! nag update lang ako ng contacts dun, naingayan din ako.. Alam mo ba na ang Forerunner Technologies na ang exclusive distributor ng mackie mixers dito sa pinas at hindi na audiophile pati proco sanake cable wala na dina sa kanila. Sayang kakabili ko lang ng mackie SR32 mixer sa audiophile nung january, may 30% discount pa naman ako sa forerunner. Tarkuz, ano masasabi mo sa JTS mics? kasi OEM ito ng SHURE, in-audition ko oki naman ang tunog, mas mura pa sya hamak. Our pastor is planning to purchase UHF wireless mic eh. Yung Shure kasi na binili nya sa Singapore ay VHF kaya prone sa interference. BTW, Maganda akustiks namin kasi cinema yun na di na ginagamit kaya full-time church na..
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« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2006, 09:02:38 PM »
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Tarkuz, ano masasabi mo sa JTS mics? kasi OEM ito ng SHURE, in-audition ko oki naman ang tunog, mas mura pa sya hamak.

Naku, puro kasinungalingan yung naririnig mo tungkol sa jts mics! Huwag kayo maniwala diyan at huwag tayo magpaloko sa kanila!!! Pinipilit pa nila sumakay sa kasikatan ng SHURE para makabenta lang ng produkto nila! Pati ang mga naghahanap buhay sa pamamagitan ng sound system rental at installation ginagawa nilang [chewbacca]. Kayo ang bahala kung gusto niyong bumili sa kanila... :x   :evil:  

Pwede bang malaman kung paano mo ginawa ang audition? Anong klaseng kwarto/environment? Ilan tao ang mga nakinig? (Lahat tayo ay may iba-ibang hearing sensitivities). Ilan mic na parehong modelo ang sinubukan? Minsan sa sampung mic na iisang modelo, dalawa lang ang pareho ang sensitivity at frequency response. -- Ganyan dapat mag test ng mic.  :wink:

Walang exclusivity ang Pro-Co. Hindi ito tinanggal sa Audiophile.
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« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2006, 10:33:39 PM »
It was 3 years ago sa store ng mga Co sa Audio Compulsion sa Aurora Blvd. Headphone lang ang gamit ko kasi di naman ako Pro, Ok sya sa price nya. But I would take your word for it, di agad kami bibili.. Di pa naman final yun eh.. Baka sa UK na ko bumili pag punta ko dun sa 2nd week ng Sept. I am planning to buy a Countryman headworn mic dun tapos yung transmitter/reciever ay baka Shure na lang ang gamitin ko.. Pwede magtanong? connected ka ba sa Audiophile if you don't mind? Thanks for your advice!
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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2006, 11:20:04 AM »
Okey gumamit ng headphone para sa A/B test (comparison) ng dalawang mic. Ginagawa yan ng mga pro. Wala akong masabi sa price/performance ng jts mic pero ang reklamo ko ay foul ang marketing strategy nila. :roll:

Oo, connected ako sa Audiophile pero I try to stay neutral here in Philmusic forum especially about gear discussions like this.  :)
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« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2006, 06:16:38 PM »
Ok po sir.. Minsan po PM kita if I'm planning to buy stuffs. Sana mas malaki na sa 10% madiscount ko. Please.. Dati pag guitar accesories ang hanap ko, I'd go directly kay Levi kaso wala na yata sya sa cubao or any audiophile group. Thanks po for sharing a lot of insights na helpful sa ming mga baguhan..
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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2006, 07:01:55 PM »
Para lumaki ang discount mo sa AP, tawagan mo si Lovell De Mesa tel. 588-0920 o 588-0923. Sabihin mo sound contractor ka at regular customer ka sa Ali Mall. Maganda sana kung may mga resibo ka ng mga binili mo noon para mabilis processing ng application mo. Kung wala, hahanapin nalang ng accounting dept. sa records nila.

Hope this helps.

Matagal na umalis si Levi. Nag abroad na kasi nurse ang asawa niya. Mayaman na daw at magara ang kotse niya! Tama na muna ang tsismis.  :)
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« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2006, 07:55:48 AM »
ok master! hanapin ko yung mga resibo ko. malaking tulong yan. maraming salamat! asko ko lang kung may alam ka mapagbibilan ng Golden Ear na CD? Thanks ulit!
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« Reply #38 on: August 23, 2006, 10:21:14 AM »
hindi ako master! test CD ba ang Golden Ear? wala ako niyan pero may ibang test CD ako...
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Moss Music Group (MMG) The Ultimate Test CD


2. My Disc: The Sheffield / A2TB Test Disc


3. Sound Check V.2 Alan Parsons and Stephen Court
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yung una binili ko sa hmv hongkong. yung sumunod binili ko sa cardinal audio, virra mall greenhills. yung huli bigay ng dbx.
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« Reply #39 on: August 23, 2006, 10:42:33 AM »
yES. tEST cd ang Golden Ear. How much po ba ang mga cds na nabili mo? Meron ako perfect pitch by David Lucas Burge. Meron pa po bang available nyan sa greenhills?
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« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2006, 01:15:46 PM »
Nasa sticker P550 yung My Disc noong 1995 pero hindi ko na maalala kung magkano yung The Ultimate Test CD kasi 1993 ko pa binili yon. Kung wala sa Greenhills ang My Disc, subukan mong hanapin sa Radio City. Parang may nakita pa ako doon e...
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« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2006, 02:01:16 PM »
Thanks po ng marami.. Vino, musta na ang set up mo?
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« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2006, 03:47:26 PM »
hindi pa ko nakakabili ng speaker bro e, bigyan nya pa nga ko ng more info
pls diko alnganin kasi ako kung ano talaga bibilhin kong speaker baka magkamali ako e.

Bigyan nyo nman ako ng brands,
and saang store maganda bumili
para sa budget na 13k 2 peaker
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« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2006, 05:05:45 PM »
New old stock...

Peavey 110DL
P13,910 (pair) list price
70 watts continuous RMS power handling
8 ohms nominal impedance

Sabi mo power rating ng mixer amp ay 200 watts sa 4 ohms, diba?

Total power handling ng dalawang Peavey 110DL ay 2 x 70 watts = 140 watts.

Total impedance ay [8 x 8]/[8 + 8] = 4 ohms.

Kayang-kaya i-drive ng mixer amp mo. May headroom ka pa na 200 watts - 140 watts = 60 watts.

Available at Audiophile Makati Cinema Square tel. 811-1908 or 811-1907.

May less 25% discount pa kasi discontinued model na ito.  :P
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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2006, 12:42:21 PM »
Vino, mura na yung Peavy na binanggit ni Tarkuz, Kilala ang Peavy sa quality sa mababang halaga. Nakagamit na ako ng Peavy Gears kaya nasabi ko ito..
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« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2006, 11:34:17 AM »
bro kelangan daw dalawang 200watts na speaker e,
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Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2006, 11:55:59 AM »
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200watts mono
tapos  use above 4ohms speaker ang nkalagay

anong mixer amp ba yan?!?  :?

i-research natin mabuti ang specs para malinaw. kasi kung dalawang 200 watts na speaker, dapat ang nakasulat sa mixer amp ay 200 watts stereo o 400 watts mono power rating.  :roll:
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« Reply #47 on: August 25, 2006, 02:50:45 PM »
stereo pala sir tinanong ko ulit
samick brand nabiloi ko ito sa JB music
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Offline Tarkuz Toccata

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« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2006, 03:35:55 PM »
samick pala. ano ang exact model?
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« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2006, 04:52:04 PM »
CXP-200R SAMICK
8CHANNEL 200W
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