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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2018, 03:42:08 AM »
Tagal ko na rin pangarap nito, pero gusto ko may drum software na rin, Kaya na ba guys ng i3 na processor? pwede ba focusrite rekta yung guitar? dami ko pa hindi alam
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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2018, 04:05:37 AM »
Tagal ko na rin pangarap nito, pero gusto ko may drum software na rin, Kaya na ba guys ng i3 na processor? pwede ba focusrite rekta yung guitar? dami ko pa hindi alam
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Drum software:
Pwede ka mamili between Addictive Drums, EZ Drummer, o Steven Slate.

i3 will suffice. I used to record on an ancient Pentium 4 with 2gb or 4gb RAM. May times na gumagapang but still got the job done. Hehe!
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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2018, 05:03:41 AM »
Tagal ko na rin pangarap nito, pero gusto ko may drum software na rin, Kaya na ba guys ng i3 na processor? pwede ba focusrite rekta yung guitar? dami ko pa hindi alam
patulong, pakisagot or pahingi ng links.

i3 with 6gb ram running superior drummer 2 controlled by alesis dm7x.

Kayang kaya.

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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2018, 05:32:03 AM »
@Satch
Hi nice thread!

I'm a Presonus Fire Studio Project user... what can I say? Preamp is superb. My DAW is Presonus Studio One 3, maganda kase if Presonus din audio interface mo may feature siya para patayin yung latency sa monitoring pag recording.

Dati naka mic yung cab (using SM57) pag recording ng guitars pero ngayon I'm using Avid Eleven Rack na, ganda ng tunog... Pero minsan mic parin ako ng cab, may ibang buga kase pag analog yung source.

Ano gamit mo pang mic? (headphones, studio monitor)

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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2018, 05:35:03 AM »
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@Satch
Hi nice thread!

I'm a Presonus Fire Studio Project user... what can I say? Preamp is superb. My DAW is Presonus Studio One 3, maganda kase if Presonus din audio interface mo may feature siya para patayin yung latency sa monitoring pag recording.

Dati naka mic yung cab (using SM57) pag recording ng guitars pero ngayon I'm using Avid Eleven Rack na, ganda ng tunog... Pero minsan mic parin ako ng cab, may ibang buga kase pag analog yung source.

Ano gamit mo pang mix? (headphones, studio monitor)


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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #30 on: February 01, 2018, 07:14:27 AM »
Drum software:
Pwede ka mamili between Addictive Drums, EZ Drummer, o Steven Slate.

i3 will suffice. I used to record on an ancient Pentium 4 with 2gb or 4gb RAM. May times na gumagapang but still got the job done. Hehe!

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i3 with 6gb ram running superior drummer 2 controlled by alesis dm7x.

Kayang kaya.

wow, ok so eto meron ako ngayon > guitars, line6 m9 - (not sure if it can be used in the chain) tsaka yung laptop haha
So ang naiisip kong kailangan
1. interface, which is focusrite at m audio lang yata ang familiar ako, sa JB meron starting yata is 9k.
2. mic pang vocals, no idea on this at cables of course
3. yung software mismo , DAW ba tawag dun? no idea rin dito pero nakakapanood ako sa rec studio dati cubase gamit nya, tsaka yung drum software. errr nakakahiya pero may mga makukuha ba ko nito hindi super mahal or download lang.

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« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2018, 07:26:23 AM »
wow, ok so eto meron ako ngayon > guitars, line6 m9 - (not sure if it can be used in the chain) tsaka yung laptop haha
So ang naiisip kong kailangan
1. interface, which is focusrite at m audio lang yata ang familiar ako, sa JB meron starting yata is 9k. - stick to focusrite
2. mic pang vocals, no idea on this at cables of course - get the sm58 and buy xlr cables
3. yung software mismo , DAW ba tawag dun? no idea rin dito pero nakakapanood ako sa rec studio dati cubase gamit nya, tsaka yung drum software. errr nakakahiya pero may mga makukuha ba ko nito hindi super mahal or download lang. - free pa ata and ez drummer
super mahal na ng iba. pero you can also try get good drums at $100

ano pa ba? Sorry kay satch na hi-jack ko thread nya hihi

you can also check the setting up your pc for recording thread.

PS: sorry for hijacking the post satch.

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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #32 on: February 01, 2018, 10:14:02 AM »
wow, ok so eto meron ako ngayon > guitars, line6 m9 - (not sure if it can be used in the chain) tsaka yung laptop haha
So ang naiisip kong kailangan
1. interface, which is focusrite at m audio lang yata ang familiar ako, sa JB meron starting yata is 9k.
2. mic pang vocals, no idea on this at cables of course
3. yung software mismo , DAW ba tawag dun? no idea rin dito pero nakakapanood ako sa rec studio dati cubase gamit nya, tsaka yung drum software. errr nakakahiya pero may mga makukuha ba ko nito hindi super mahal or download lang.

ano pa ba? Sorry kay satch na hi-jack ko thread nya hihi

Get the focusrite 2i2 studio bundle. Bang for the buck na yun to get you going.

Or get the focusrite 2i2 interface lang,  plus audio technica at2020 (xlr) + xlr cable.

Or focusrite 2i2 + shure sm57 + xlr cable.


Download reaper as DAW, and download free amp and cab sims.

Pwede ka din bumili ng plugins(vsts) gaya ng guitarig amplitube etc.(yan na lalabas na amp and stomps mo) then superior drummer or addictive drums (for drum programming). medyo mahal to, pero madaming free alternatives naman.

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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #33 on: February 01, 2018, 11:30:21 AM »
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Thanks sir techbp! Hirap disect info sa net sa dami. Where better to learn than experienced peeps ika nga.

:eek di ko pa ata ncconsider mixing side nitong venture na to. I use a presonus eris 8 as my monitor speaker. Eto na dn kasi gamit ko as my main ouput speaker sa modeler ko nun wla pa ako laptop and interface. Headphones naman meron ako sony mdr7506.

Pag gising ko knina eto naisip ko, wala pala ako bass guitar. Is this a necessity ba? Kung guitar backing track i know di na kailangan, pero kung kagaya ng kay boxedking, ayun!?



Jake Z and officebiker, no hassle bros, hi jack all u want. Mas maraming inputs, the better diba? Mas marami matututunan. :)


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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2018, 11:40:21 AM »
Guys, pano mag upload ng video dito? Or kailangan youtube talaga?

I managed to do a one take record kahapon. Simple plucking with sabit sabit all around. No other tracks than the guitar. Stock preset with no tweak. Meh, bahala na kako. Its a start.

Gusto ko lang masubukan hit ung record button to get the feel of it. No harm naman kung susubukan diba? :)


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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2018, 12:48:36 PM »
Guys, pano mag upload ng video dito? Or kailangan youtube talaga?

I managed to do a one take record kahapon. Simple plucking with sabit sabit all around. No other tracks than the guitar. Stock preset with no tweak. Meh, bahala na kako. Its a start.

Gusto ko lang masubukan hit ung record button to get the feel of it. No harm naman kung susubukan diba? :)


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youtube talaga (only way) :0

btw, time will come, bibili ka rin ng bass. I started with a strat then an interface then a lapton. Afterwards, bumuli ng bass.
Then the cycle continued. Hanggang makabili ng Bx5, midi keyboard at electric drums.


To add.

you can also try uploading your songs via soundcloud pero FYI pag post mo dito nun marami mag rereply at ngayon wala ka ng babasahin kundi EQ,Compressing and the likes.


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Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2018, 12:58:24 PM »
youtube talaga (only way) :0

btw, time will come, bibili ka rin ng bass. I started with a strat then an interface then a lapton. Afterwards, bumuli ng bass.
Then the cycle continued. Hanggang makabili ng Bx5, midi keyboard at electric drums.


To add.

you can also try uploading your songs via soundcloud pero FYI pag post mo dito nun marami mag rereply at ngayon wala ka ng babasahin kundi EQ,Compressing and the likes.

Thanks Jake Z! Youtube it is.

Mukhang unavoidable nga ang pagkuha ng bass. Sana may mahiraman for the meantime hehehe

Ang mahal pala ng EZ drummer

Iwas muna siguro ako sa soundcloud hehehe. Dito nalang muna.

Mukhang mahaba habang lakbayin to :D


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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2018, 04:46:09 PM »
Heto na mga sir. Pikit mata nalang.

Disclaimer(Palusot): one pass video, stock preset with minimal tweak, no processing sa daw kasi hindi ako marunong. Record lng ng video and audio track.

:eek:

https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM


Mean, harsh and constructive comments accepted.


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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2018, 06:44:11 PM »
Heto na mga sir. Pikit mata nalang.

Disclaimer(Palusot): one pass video, stock preset with minimal tweak, no processing sa daw kasi hindi ako marunong. Record lng ng video and audio track.

:eek:

https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM


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Nice guitar chief!
Ok na naman  yung sounds so maganda pagkaka setup in ax8.
Next na yung processing like eq, compressor.

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« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2018, 11:18:07 PM »
Heto na mga sir. Pikit mata nalang.

Disclaimer(Palusot): one pass video, stock preset with minimal tweak, no processing sa daw kasi hindi ako marunong. Record lng ng video and audio track.

:eek:

https://youtu.be/zu1IJbHXPkM


Mean, harsh and constructive comments accepted.


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Para sa akin, so far so good.

Paglaruan mo yung stock effects ng DAW mo then explore from there.

Nga pala, always play along a metronome. Yan ang secret ng tight recording.
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« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2018, 02:04:22 AM »
Laki ng studio monitor mo hehe! Ganda niyan! I have the smaller model, eris 5 :-)
Regarding bass track - your call bro, pero para mas buo yung sound ng mixdown mo, might as well consider it - low end is low end, madalas yun yung frequency na unang naapreciate ng listener
Check out Modo Bass or Trilian (much better) if you have extra budget hehe! All you need is midi controller na lang

Thanks sir techbp! Hirap disect info sa net sa dami. Where better to learn than experienced peeps ika nga.

:eek di ko pa ata ncconsider mixing side nitong venture na to. I use a presonus eris 8 as my monitor speaker. Eto na dn kasi gamit ko as my main ouput speaker sa modeler ko nun wla pa ako laptop and interface. Headphones naman meron ako sony mdr7506.

Pag gising ko knina eto naisip ko, wala pala ako bass guitar. Is this a necessity ba? Kung guitar backing track i know di na kailangan, pero kung kagaya ng kay boxedking, ayun!?



Jake Z and officebiker, no hassle bros, hi jack all u want. Mas maraming inputs, the better diba? Mas marami matututunan. :)


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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #41 on: February 02, 2018, 05:49:57 PM »
So mero akong time today. 2nd take. Random stuff. Guitar lng kase wla ako bass and drum software. Meron ako ndownload MDrummer Small by Melda Productions, anyone familiar? Di ko pa install, siguro later pg meron ulit time.

Tried tracking 2 guitars then only EQ is added sa logic pro. I focused dialing in tone sa floor pedal ko para hindi ko na kakalikutin virtual effects ng recording software.

Tama ba workflow?


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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #42 on: February 02, 2018, 05:59:40 PM »
@boxedking
hirap pala sa metronome sir! Naka ilang take ako bago ko nakuha masabayan un tempo ko :(

@techbp,
Di ko nga alam kung tama ba na eris8 kinuha ko? Dati ksi mackie CR3 gamit ko  nun guitar and iphone effects lng gmit ko. Binenta and nagpalit lng ako ksi hindi ko masyado malakasan sa effects ko un CR3 at bumibigay hehe. Hindi ko rin nman alam aarlin ko mag record pala. Hehehe. Regarding bass, baka manghiram muna or eventually mag iipon khit murang bass.

Sakit sa bangs naman nito. But enjoy!


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« Reply #43 on: February 02, 2018, 10:24:09 PM »
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If you are planning to do all the parts by yourself, metronome is the key. Lalo kung programmed ang drums mo, laging on pocket yun tapos ikaw hindi. May kilala ako mas magaling sakin maggitara so pinarecord ko ng guitar parts, gawa ko na yung bass and drums, programmed yung drums, ayun di namin natapos hirap siya haha, sa huli ako nalang din gumawa ng guitar parts.
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« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2018, 03:16:00 PM »
^

If you are planning to do all the parts by yourself, metronome is the key. Lalo kung programmed ang drums mo, laging on pocket yun tapos ikaw hindi. May kilala ako mas magaling sakin maggitara so pinarecord ko ng guitar parts, gawa ko na yung bass and drums, programmed yung drums, ayun di namin natapos hirap siya haha, sa huli ako nalang din gumawa ng guitar parts.

Maraming practice kailangan ko sir para dito talaga. Andame ko pa hindi maintindihan sa mga menus ng recording software e.

Im hoping hindi ko gagawin lahat mag isa. Pero bahala na. Aaralin nalang muna and more practice. And more youtube tips on recording.


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« Reply #45 on: February 03, 2018, 11:16:38 PM »
Maraming practice kailangan ko sir para dito talaga. Andame ko pa hindi maintindihan sa mga menus ng recording software e.

Im hoping hindi ko gagawin lahat mag isa. Pero bahala na. Aaralin nalang muna and more practice. And more youtube tips on recording.


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Yung iba naman eh tools/buttons/menu eh more on "better workflow" na. Basta alam mo yung basic like"creating track" "arming track" send/return etc.. Ok na start na yun, yung iba matututunan mo along the way. Malalaman mo kelangan mo eh. Sa totoo lang lahat kami dito eh sasabihing  "learning" pa din kami, kasi napakadami talaga dapat matutunan (except for kitc though alam yata nun lahat).



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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2018, 08:12:56 AM »
Yung iba naman eh tools/buttons/menu eh more on "better workflow" na. Basta alam mo yung basic like"creating track" "arming track" send/return etc.. Ok na start na yun, yung iba matututunan mo along the way. Malalaman mo kelangan mo eh. Sa totoo lang lahat kami dito eh sasabihing  "learning" pa din kami, kasi napakadami talaga dapat matutunan (except for kitc though alam yata nun lahat).

what if our daw are still running on analogs. Siguro ang lalaki  ng  mga bahay naten due to the boards.

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« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2018, 12:40:19 PM »
kung maccover mo siguro basics as a start, good to go ka na. The rest can be learned along the way.

To summarize, below is my list that i think helped me get started.

Hardware:
-Guitar
-Guitar cable
-USB audio interface
-Laptop or Desktop

Software:
-Recording Software (Logic Pro, Reaper, Cubase, etc.)

Operation:
-Learn how to add or crate new track in the recording software
-Learn how to arm the track and record .

The rest follows. Playback, mixing, etc. Im sure marami pang subjects meron regarding this topic, i may or may not learn them in time pero as a start, this is what i have learned so far.

Would love to have something like sir boxedking's records, ayos na ayos un! For now puro press record, play and practice muna :)

Salamat sa mga inputs! :)


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Re: Help! Starting a guitar home recording rig
« Reply #48 on: April 11, 2018, 09:01:02 PM »
Yo, I'm starting to do home recording as well BTW I'm so low on funds at the moment so I do it with a Xenyx502 and Reaper. At the moment, I'm trying to focus on getting the wall of sound. Do you guys have any thoughts on how to achieve this? TIA! :)
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« Reply #49 on: April 12, 2018, 11:04:51 AM »
Yo, I'm starting to do home recording as well BTW I'm so low on funds at the moment so I do it with a Xenyx502 and Reaper. At the moment, I'm trying to focus on getting the wall of sound. Do you guys have any thoughts on how to achieve this? TIA! :)
lots and lots of reverb.

When I say reverb, your choices are: reverse, shimmer, parallel, particle, and so on and so forth.
A subtle chorus or phase.
Delay in 16th or 8th division.
delay with slower time and longer feedback
then fuzz

disclaimer: This is my own experiment since I'm playing dream pop/shoegaze music. There are a lot of options you can do to achieve wall of sound kind of music.
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