well, typical OEM lang naman RJ, pwedeng mga latak or overruns ng ibang brand sa ibang countries, papakyawin then rebadge.... hinahaluan lang ng baduy na marketing at branding para pang appeal sa mga masa... nothing proudly pinoy about 'em anymore... best time to buy em is yung super mega bday sale nga..para sulit.. pero for me Id rather just save up for a more established more value brand...