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The Musician Forums => Guitar Central => Topic started by: charles55 on March 15, 2007, 04:50:44 PM
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mga pare,kmsta?
tanong lang,lalo na sa BAD MONKEY users,paano nyo ginagamit ang BADMONKEY nyo?
straight OD pedal,booster sa amp or hinahalo nyo sa ibang pedal?
ano set-up nyo sa kanya?hehe..kakaintriga lang kasi,dami followers ng badmonkey. :-D
salamat... :-)
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mga pare,kmsta?
tanong lang,lalo na sa BAD MONKEY users,paano nyo ginagamit ang BADMONKEY nyo?
straight OD pedal,booster sa amp or hinahalo nyo sa ibang pedal?
ano set-up nyo sa kanya?hehe..kakaintriga lang kasi,dami followers ng badmonkey. :-D
salamat... :-)
well its my main dirt pedal then i boost it with SD 2's lead channel. then settings ko is Level = 3 oclock HI and LO = 9 oclock gain = 3 oclcok
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magiging maganda kaya kung ihahalo ko ang BADMONKEY sa METAL MASTER? :|
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depende sa order ng effects. kasi maganda ang character ng BM eh. kung pang sosolo mo i suggest last sa chain mo ung BM to amp para ang makuha ung character ng BM kasi meron sya mid hump so magandang pang solo and lutang kasa band setting. ok din kasi syang booster eh, its transparent enough to be a booster.
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i don't think so bro.. medyo nagiging ngongo yung tone pag ginamit as booster yung Bad Monkey. masyadong babad kasi sa mids kaya ganun e. it's better as an overdrive pedal, sarap talaga ng tunog nun lalo na kung trip mo ng light jazzy OD to smooth blues tones. kung gagamitin mo yung Bad Monkey as booster in front of an amp's dirty channel, make sure to compensate for the mid-hump by tweaking the amp's parametric EQ. it'll work that way :)
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i don't think so bro.. medyo nagiging ngongo yung tone pag ginamit as booster yung Bad Monkey. masyadong babad kasi sa mids kaya ganun e. it's better as an overdrive pedal, sarap talaga ng tunog nun lalo na kung trip mo ng light jazzy OD tones to smooth blues. kung gagamitin mo yung Bad Monkey as booster in front of an amp's dirty channel, make sure to compensate for the mid-hump by tweaking the amp's parametric EQ :)
ah ok pero it worked for me eh. well maybe mejo MID addict ako talga eh. hehehe. gusto ko kasi lutang ako sa mix eh.
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yeah pwede yan.. hehe :) try mo sa clean channel ng tube amp pero crank it to near-breakup level. lulutong bigla yung tunog ng BM! :)
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hmmm i guess what vaisteen was saying is that you can put the OD pedal( in this case the Badmonkey) at the last part of the drive chain and using another drive pedal(SD2) to boost it into an amp's clean channel.
I know that usually you use an overdrive pedal to boost a dist pedal right? but sometimes you just might like the tone of your OD pedal for your lead sound over your dist sound.
I am currently using this setup since don't usually bring my own amp. puro clean channel lang ako. :-D I set the od's drive at 12 and the dist pedal at around 2 o'clock as it easily gets muddy if you add more drive to your OD.
with this kind of setup, you can have a rhythm setting going on your dist pedal that won't cut too much( yes it's essential for the guitar to get drowned a bit by the rest of the band sometimes :-D) and set the OD pedal up for that mid hump to cut though the mix without raising your volume. Since i hear the BM is quite transparent, my guess it'll do fine.
Dati kasi dist pedal lang ako with the volume pedal tapos pagdating ng solo lalakasan ko lang. i end up ruining either the rhythm section or my solo because it tends to sound too loud before you actually hear yourself. :mrgreen: midrange lang pala ang kailangan.
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yup exactly. the BM's own tone is excellent and can hold its own against other OD pedals. but when i used it as the booster (like the SD-2 in your example), it kind of sounded a bit muffled (or mid-saturated) to me. parang if you minimized the drive and increased the volume level, andun pa rin yung mid hump. but ok syang main dirt pedal talaga.. back when i still had a TS-808, i even sold my TS9 because i liked the sound of the BM + TS-808 better than two TS pedals in cascade :)
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cascaded with the eternity for that all out marshall stack sound 8-)
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i used to use it as my clean channel (clean na may kagat pag linakasan ang strum/pick)...last sa chain bago mag amp....but sold it na.
maganda to. what makes it cool is the bass and treble EQ. kaso medyo bitin ako sa gain. and bass. IMHO
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dati i use it as my main dirt pedal tpos ngayon sinama ko na sa podxtl for boosting.
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yup exactly. the BM's own tone is excellent and can hold its own against other OD pedals. but when i used it as the booster (like the SD-2 in your example), it kind of sounded a bit muffled (or mid-saturated) to me. parang if you minimized the drive and increased the volume level, andun pa rin yung mid hump. but ok syang main dirt pedal talaga.. back when i still had a TS-808, i even sold my TS9 because i liked the sound of the BM + TS-808 better than two TS pedals in cascade :)
yup ganun set up ko minsan, near sa amp ung BM pero most of the time boost ko ung SD 2 and main dirt pedal ko ung BM. sobrang ok sya talaga although wala ako masyado comparison kasi BM and SD 2 ugn fist OD pedals ko. Whats good bout BM aside from its natural character is the tonal flexibility dahil sa HI and LO knobs nya.
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im really intrigued by this pedal and would love to make GAS for this one
I have read an article that BM can sound real great no tone color
I discovered a GREAT trick on this wonderful pedal: you can make the EQ curve on it almost completely FLAT, which means no annoying tubescreamer-like midrange hump and no bass loss. It is too simple ??? just turn the low and high controls up all the way up and turn the gain down a bit to compensate. If you want to bring back some or all of the tubescreamer midrange, back off the low and high controls and bring up the gain. I was able to nearly match my bypass tone by doing this with the gain knob almost all the way down. So if you want your amp???s sound plus a little hair, this pedal can do it really well.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/DigiTech/Bad+Monkey/10/1
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It's a nice pedal. I use it a lot as an OD. I don't like to cascade it with my DS-1 because to me it is quite muddy. The only thing I don't like about it (tonewise) is that it doesn't respond well enough to guitar volume.
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uy! BM coalition narn ba to?? hehe
i liked my Bm rn, pero paminsan nakukulangan ako sa gain, so naka-cascade to with the crunch mode ng od-2 ko, with a little gain.. ayos ung lumalabas. hehe ...havnt tried it with sd-2.. i bet mas ok ung sound.. :-o
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Bad Monkey rules!! :lol:
Pros:
* Bass Knob that's really useful when you want a heavier meatier tone in hard rock
* Heavy Metal Case
* Easily cuts in the mix
* Line Out - Mix
* D*mn nice alternative overdrive. Can easily be used from classic 70's sound!! Rawwk!
* Looks so cool
* Very cheap
Cons:
* I miss the 'click' sound from Boss pedal. You need to press it heavier to turn it on.
* Eats batteries a lot!
Thanks to PhilMusic... i got this pedal for very cheap and in its mint condition!! :roll: :wink:
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is it true that the BM can be also achieved sa Boston OD100 ?
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got my badmonkey last wed at audiophile san juan. its really a great pedal. but i disagree what poundcake said. true, medyo mataas nga und mid. but FOR ME, its good for boosting for my taste. BTW, i use it to boost my sansamp gt-2. and i boost it when playing some satch, vai, petrucci staff.. it improved my tone and sustain. but if you guys think na medyo mataas nga ung mid. maybe turn the mid of what you are boosting down. well, sarisariling taste lang yan..
also, bad monkey is not digital like the other digitech pedals. that why its really great..
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yup, but i was talking about TRANSPARENT boosting then bro; i replied to pareng vaisteen's post. a booster that alters the mids isn't exactly transparent in terms of frequency response. kaya nagsuggest din ako to cut down the mids sa binoboost na amp (or drive) pedal to compensate, and tama ka dun na mas effective ang BM pag ganun. i use the BM at home to boost my JSX kung feel ko kelangan ko pa ng extra mids other than my amp's fat boost switch, and i'm happy with it as well :)
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gagaling nyo mga pare..hehe.
kaso ala ng BM sa AP. :-(
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
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gagaling nyo mga pare..hehe.
kaso ala ng BM sa AP. :-(
hehe.. got the last unit from AP san juan last wed. but before i bought the unit, i called audio studios (AP branch) sa megamall and out of stock sila. other than the said branches, hindi ko na alam kung may stock sila..
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
Pwede1 :-)
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
aus toh ah.. ppnta lang this weekend.. anu ggwin nyo sir?? kakain lang sa mcdo? hehe.. joke..
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
aus toh ah.. ppnta lang this weekend.. anu ggwin nyo sir?? kakain lang sa mcdo? hehe.. joke..
this weekend ako aalis, pero di ako magsta-stay dun for one weekend lang :) medyo di practical yun kung ganun.
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hehe.. pero seriously pede digidelay??
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basta sure na kukunin e. kung ganun, two slots na lang for Bad Monkey kung ganun. P5,550 for the DigiDelay after sales tax and credit card interest.
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
Ayus!! interested ako sir...kelan balik nyo?
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
Pwede ba i-combine yung bad monkey sa Boss OD-2? If so,hmmm parang gusto ko din magpabili,isip-isip muna :-D
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
Pwede ba i-combine yung bad monkey sa Boss OD-2? If so,hmmm parang gusto ko din magpabili,isip-isip muna :-D
wahaha yan ang gnagwa ko!! BM with OD2r.. haha ..mas malinis ang BM kesa od2.. so pag combind ko, ung crunch lang ng od2 ung gamit ko.. haha para ndi muddy.. hehe pero pwde rn sa turbo mode.. super angat ka.. lol
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
Pwede ba i-combine yung bad monkey sa Boss OD-2? If so,hmmm parang gusto ko din magpabili,isip-isip muna :-D
wahaha yan ang gnagwa ko!! BM with OD2r.. haha ..mas malinis ang BM kesa od2.. so pag combind ko, ung crunch lang ng od2 ung gamit ko.. haha para ndi muddy.. hehe pero pwde rn sa turbo mode.. super angat ka.. lol
Ahhh,ok thanks for the info :-D God bless!
Another question pa pala,what is the diff between the OD-2 and OD-2r? :?
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balik ko mga first to second week of April :)
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
Kung punta ka New York samahan kita sa Guitar center may barkada ako na sales rep dun we could get a big discount.
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
Kung punta ka New York samahan kita sa Guitar center may barkada ako na sales rep dun we could get a big discount.
uy pareng Alroy, sayang pero West coast ang trip ko this time e. i was there last November, though :)
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ok next time give me a Haller hehe
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hehehe..sarap mgbyahe sa US. :-)
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bilang tulong sa musikerong Pinoy, sinong gusto ng Bad Monkey? pupunta akong US this weekend, bilhan ko kayo. P2,250 ko ibebenta (after US sales tax and credit card interest, no other overhead)
up to three slots only! game! seryoso to.
Pwede ba i-combine yung bad monkey sa Boss OD-2? If so,hmmm parang gusto ko din magpabili,isip-isip muna :-D
wahaha yan ang gnagwa ko!! BM with OD2r.. haha ..mas malinis ang BM kesa od2.. so pag combind ko, ung crunch lang ng od2 ung gamit ko.. haha para ndi muddy.. hehe pero pwde rn sa turbo mode.. super angat ka.. lol
Ahhh,ok thanks for the info :-D God bless!
Another question pa pala,what is the diff between the OD-2 and OD-2r? :?
uhm od-2r, meron lang cya saksakan ng remote switch, para sa fs-5L.. hehe.. mdyo ndi rn ok kasi sobrang laki ng boost nya ng turbo from crunch mode.. haha kkagulat..
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im really intrigued by this pedal and would love to make GAS for this one
I have read an article that BM can sound real great no tone color
I discovered a GREAT trick on this wonderful pedal: you can make the EQ curve on it almost completely FLAT, which means no annoying tubescreamer-like midrange hump and no bass loss. It is too simple ??? just turn the low and high controls up all the way up and turn the gain down a bit to compensate. If you want to bring back some or all of the tubescreamer midrange, back off the low and high controls and bring up the gain. I was able to nearly match my bypass tone by doing this with the gain knob almost all the way down. So if you want your amp???s sound plus a little hair, this pedal can do it really well.
http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/DigiTech/Bad+Monkey/10/1
Try this setting. It will blow your mind away... :-D
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hmmm... dagdag ko sa question...
anung dirt pedal ang pinaka ok to cascade with BM?? sometimes, ung gain kasi ng BM is not enough.. is it same concept as boosting??
suggestions naman.. ang naicip ko is sd-2 and ts-808 e.. pero ung isa rare, ung isa naman mahal.. haha
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try mo with another BM or digitech SCreaming blues.
im using BM with SD 2, ok naman pero still meron kulang. i cant seem to make the SD 2 sound according to my taste so pang boost ko lang sya and add ng konting gain.
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mga ser nangyayari rin b sa inyo na pag sinama ung BM sa chain nababawasan ang low end ng original tone? its overdrive tone is very sweet but somehow its messing up my clean tone :-( i try to compensate with my amp's eq but its not my guitar's natural tone anymore :cry:
pwede ba i mod ang BM para maging true bypass?
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Compatible ba BM and DS1. Which of the two is effective as booster to each. Be it dist or od . Need booster for solos.
thanks.
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Compatible ba BM and DS1. Which of the two is effective as booster to each. Be it dist or od . Need booster for solos.
thanks.
depende sa character na gusto mo. kung gusto mo litaw talga ung DIST character, i suggest you put the DS 1 sa last ng chain kung gusto mo litaw ung OD characteristic lagy mo sa end ung BM pero ung latter kasi it sounds a bit muddy for my taste eh.
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Compatible ba BM and DS1. Which of the two is effective as booster to each. Be it dist or od . Need booster for solos.
thanks.
depende sa character na gusto mo. kung gusto mo litaw talga ung DIST character, i suggest you put the DS 1 sa last ng chain kung gusto mo litaw ung OD characteristic lagy mo sa end ung BM pero ung latter kasi it sounds a bit muddy for my taste eh.
Thats what I need to know, what comes first if I need dist or od.
Many thanks.