Author Topic: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig? (Read 37855 times)

skunkyfunk · « **on:** January 14, 2008, 10:39:03 AM »

Just wanna know how you guys feel about this. As I see it, if you wanna gig, obligation niyo mag-imbita kahit papaano. But I don't see why selling tickets seems to be a bad idea. Maraming new artists ang ayaw ng ganitong setup.

luna_07 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 14, 2008, 04:55:44 PM »

Ticket selling is okay, kasi siyempre nirerent yung bar e, dun sila kumukuha ng pondo. yung mga prod naman usually di naman kumikita ng malaki yan kaya ayos lang ang ticket selling.

spife · « **Reply #2 on:** January 14, 2008, 07:49:49 PM »

Mahirap kasi nagbebenta ka, medyo masakit sa ulo kung nahihirapan kang maghagilap ng tao. Kaso di maiiwasan eh. Mas prefer ko yung guest-bringing kasi kahit papano dadalhin mo lang sila, wala kang ibebenta in advance etc.

greenweenie · « **Reply #3 on:** January 14, 2008, 09:32:10 PM »

Ang tanong ko lang, bakit nililipat ng production yung trabaho nila na maghanap ng audience sa banda?

oiljazz · « **Reply #4 on:** January 15, 2008, 05:11:49 AM »

AMEN!!!! GREENWINIE!!!! AMEN!!! THAT'S VERY ''COLTURE''

applesideup · « **Reply #5 on:** January 15, 2008, 11:50:56 AM »

hello...i think i cn share the same dilema here...if we are thinking of how the bars cn make revenues they cn make it on their items to sell inside the bar...not necessarily people that the band should bring...its on the shoulders of the bar itself...yes bringing a guest that should pay entrnce to the bars is a good strategy but...i'd rather bring them as a guest to the bar than a payee on the bar..because the bands itself helps the program of the bar in complimentary...right.....its much better to get revenue on the purchases like the drinks and foods etc....the marketing prowess of the bar should do something better initiative rather that to ask a certain thing for the band which obligates them...but again its the preferences of both sides...but....if i had to have bar...i rather think ways to earn revenue....so much on minds to explore.....just to be unique to others...as the same interest sharing the music industry we want to help relive the music..of other aspiring bands.....well ciao?!....rock on?!

kharz23 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 15, 2008, 03:12:29 PM »

for new aspiring bands lyk us...that's the futile truth we have to get along.

ton2xx · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2008, 04:24:43 PM »

May banda kasing di sumisipot...

rein_h8 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 17, 2008, 01:42:26 PM »

i think tix selling is okey as long the bands will get their percentages for that night...let's say transpo allowance or food and drinks...same thing na din ksi pag ng wowork ka nyan it will enhance your capabilities pagdating sa public relation...same like sa kolcenters tulad ngayon bentahan din so matututo din,don't look ksi sa negative sides pagdating sa pag tix selling sa positve ang tingan nyo... hehehe..sa mga prods naman na ngpapatix selling wag nyo naman abusuhin ang mga bands na 10 tix na ibebenta tpos wla pa bayad cla...sana tulungan lang...kung alam pa un meaning ng "TULUNGAN"...mejo sirang plaka na ksi toh word na toh...club dredd days pa hehehe

houseofravens · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2008, 04:32:49 PM »

Quote from: rein_h8 on January 17, 2008, 01:42:26 PM

i think tix selling is okey as long the bands will get their percentages for that night...let's say transpo allowance or food and drinks...sana tulungan lang...kung alam pa un meaning ng "TULUNGAN"...

^Amen to that!

Kami rin sumabak na sa ticket selling pero madalas mangyari eh kami na nagbabayad sa tickets...hassle pa kasi 3 songs lang tutugtugin mo pos unahan pa sa slot ng 20 band lineup...kaya lugi talaga lalo na kung malayo pa yung bar...

rad_12 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2008, 06:09:27 PM »

ticket selling is ok para sa akin..kaya lang lugi talaga yung banda.let say 5 tickets, kaya ung mabenta. tapos sana yung mga prods. magbigay sila ng incentives man lang like kung mag-excess sa 5 tix yung excess bigay na lang sana sa banda para makabawi naman sila sa effort. andun na yung praktis, pamasahe, pagod. para at least fair naman.

pero napansin ko kasi sa ibang banda kagaya ng dati kong banda kulang kasi yung effort na kausapin mo yung tao na pumunta dapat 1 week before kausapin mo na and gamitin din sana nating mga band members yung mga contacts natin kung meron if necessary invite ka ng parents mo or relatives at least dagdag na sa isipin yun..yung iba kasi ayaw nilang papuntahin parents nila kasi ayaw nila daw silang pagbandahin eh kung iinvite mo naman sila dun makita naman nila yung ginagawa nio mas ok db?

opinyon ko lang 'to mga sir and ma'am.

julsam · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2008, 06:26:09 PM »

sobra!
hassle yun.

kyle travers · « **Reply #12 on:** January 20, 2008, 12:52:46 AM »

ayos lang din...hindi kc gaya dati na basta punta ka lang and pa line up...pero no prob as long as music...

drewLAKANDULA · « **Reply #13 on:** January 20, 2008, 01:02:52 AM »

Okay lang mag ticket selling kaso wag lang yung sobrang dami ng ticket,ayos lang siguro yung 6 na tickets yung ibebenta,pero kung 10 tickets medyo marami yon,kung sa production ay may kasali na 25 bands tapos required pa ng 10 tickets dapat mabenta nila bale magkano yun kung 100 pesos kada isang ticket bale 25 thousand pesos na kikitain nung nag papa prod,sabihin na nating 10 yung bar fine,eh mag kano lang naman mag pa print ng ticket tapos yung oorderin pa nung mga banda sa bar syempre may porciento pa yung mag papa prod..nyahahaha...

lil.drummerboy · « **Reply #14 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:26:46 AM »

ok lang namam yung tix selling wag lang masyado madami katulad ng 6-10 tix pataas. pero mahirap parin magbenta lalo na kung sunod sunog ang gig. kahit yung mga bring guest na production din. ayos lang yung minimum of three.sana nga din tulungan nila nag mga banda katulad na din ng pagkain o pagbibigay ng beer. ang laki kaya ng kinikita ng mga prod lalo na yung 10 tix per bands tapos aabot pa ng 15 mahigit na banda.. so mahigit 15 thou kikitain nila sa isang gabi? eh di naman sila mag rerent ng gamit.. kadalasan nasa bar na yan. kung mag rent sila cymbals lang naman diba? at yung mga maliliit na bagay na kailangan. ang sinasabi ng mga prod na isipin daw ng mga banda yung hirap na ginagawa nila. pero isipin din naman nila ang mga banda na nag paparactuce at bumabyahe para mapasaya ang gabi sa bar. tska trabaho ng production mag dala ng tao. hindi ang mga banda. pano na lang pala yung mga bagong banda na gustong gusto tumugtog pero yung guest nila lagi na lang nanonood at nag sawa na din o kaya hindi pwede? siyempre maubusan din ng guest mga banda. pano na sila makaka tugtog? so yung gig nila idedepende pa nila sa guest na madadala nila o di kaya sa tix na ma benta? unfair naman yun. pano nila mapapakita yung pinag hirapan nila. dapat talaga patas. dapat nga din tumanaw ng utong loob ang prod sa mga banda dahil pinapasaya nila ang gabi sa bar. ganun din ang mga banda dahil nabigyan sila ng pagkakaton ipakita kung ano meron sila.. may mga prod talaga na totoo na tumutulong sa mga banda. may mga prod din na iba diyan na mukhang pera at masyadog demanding na hindi nag iisip ng hirap ng mga banda.di naman ako agianst sa mga prod na nagpapa tix selling. pero isipin din sana nila mga hirap ng mga banda. para fair. wag pera tumatakbo sa utak. peace!

japoyjapoy · « **Reply #15 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:46:04 AM »

nope..i mean, kailangan din nila kc ng pambayad sa place eh...
iniintindi ko nlng..
pero ung ibang prod nmn pag nakabenta ka ng sobra may percentage ka eh, o kaya pwede mong patungan ung price ng ticket para kumita ka kahit papaano..

rad_12 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 20, 2008, 02:54:22 PM »

+100 dito

greenweenie · « **Reply #17 on:** January 20, 2008, 03:24:04 PM »

Quote from: japoyjapoy on January 20, 2008, 03:46:04 AM

nope..i mean, kailangan din nila kc ng pambayad sa place eh...
iniintindi ko nlng..
pero ung ibang prod nmn pag nakabenta ka ng sobra may percentage ka eh, o kaya pwede mong patungan ung price ng ticket para kumita ka kahit papaano..

They shouldn't rely on the band to get that percentage. I mean yeah they do "advertising" by what? Texting, maybe posting a few pictures online but so what? They should get a street team to promote the gig. If they don't have enough capital on hand to do so (pay for place, street team, advertising, etc.), then they're in the wrong career. Besides, banks allow loans to start a business. They can also get sponsorships. If schools who present concerts at no charge can get sponsorships, what more outside promotions? Wouldn't the companies want a larger exposure if it was outside?

clay005 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 20, 2008, 10:32:44 PM »

Mga brod ganun talaga panahon ngaun. sabi nga Equivalent trade. Kung gusto mo tumugtog kelangan may kapalit para makatugtog ka, and that is the money.

Tandaan nyo wlang bandang sumikat sa buong mundo na hindi gumastos ng malaki sa pagsikat nila..

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guitargodskitz · « **Reply #19 on:** January 21, 2008, 06:22:15 AM »

ang sakin lang, yung banda ang gumagawa ng pabor sa prod, kung walang banda, asan yung prod? edi nalugi, and maraming paraan para sumikat ang banda, aside sa pag sikat mo sa isang production, pwede kang gumawa ng independent album then make your own music video, tamang connections lang yan on how to push your stuff sa market.

i dont hate and i also dont like ticket selling, i perform minsan sa mga ticket selling gigs kasi friend ko yung nagpapa-prod, way ko lang yun ng pagtulong ko sa prod nila. ang ayoko lang kasi sa ticket selling, i think we all have the same problem yung mga grabidad mag pa benta, may mga nakita akong kailangan 10 there was one time 20 tix at tapos hindi pa na sulit yung time mo sa stage sana mga 5 songs max, grabe naman yun tapos wala pang kikitain yung banda, hindi na yun hanap buhay, hanap patay na yun

pero tandaan din natin may mga bandang sumikat dahil tlgang magaling sila, whether tix selling or not, may mga hatak man sila sa gig o sa gig na mismo sila nagkaka-instant hatak, "you will be remembered by your performance and originality, hindi sa dahil marami kang hatak"

ok i think nasabi ko na lahat ng gusto ko sabihin hehe PROGREMIZE!!!

bitusan · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2008, 12:16:30 PM »

GANTO LANG YAN. YUNG AYAW NG TICKET SELL EDI WAG SUMALI SA PROD NA MERONG TICKETSELL. YUNG OK LANG SAKANILA EDI SAMA SILA.

IncX · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:32:55 PM »

ticket selling has got to be one of the sleaziest and cheesiest way of abusing a band, especially naive highschool kids.

why is it an abuse:

1.) regardless of skill, family members and friends are bound to watch those naive-can barely play their instrument-kids.

2.) all of you are saying "eh paano yung place? yung production organization? yung nagbabantay ng gates?" ... hell, what kind of place is that anyway? a crap bar right? or an ugly house with crappy surplus amps with 'mic' labelled on the bass input jack? and yes, di ka na nga nila binabayaran, they make money out of you pa... taking advantage of your naivete/stupidity, making you do marketing, selling, advertising and bringing in ppl to their crappy place. you dont get paid for that and you NEVER will.

3.) those production orgs dont care about music and bands... they only care about the band who can make the ticket sales quota... so kahit na kaya mo lang tugtugin is "pare ko" na mali mali pa ang chords at wala sa timing ang bass at drums, pasok pa rin! ... kaya mo naman hatakin mga classmates at parents mo eh.

look, if you wanna get gig experience... get 3 bands na schoolmates mo, rent cheap a** equipment at tumugtog kayo sa bday ng classmate mo for free...

4.) i have played on 2 of those gigs before and guess what? you dont get treated right and you get "reprimanded" for not making the sales quota. the mood there is also very unfriendly kasi kampo kampo yung bands at audience ... the audience only go in pag yung banda na ng kakilala nila ang nasa stage. thats not loving music in my book, thats basically just watching someone you know kasi you dont have anything else to do for the night.

i suggest you musicians not to be desperate enough to fall for this money making schemes of some losers who cant find good day jobs... instead of joining those prods, i suggest you just find amateur bands in your school or in philmusic and then mag usap kayo kung paano kayo mag organize... siguro naman kung magtulong tulong kayo at mag respetuhan ng sariling equipment pwede kayo magkumpol kumpol at mag organize ng gigs...

and dont expect na makakapera or makakabawi kayo sa pag organize ng gigs... remember, nasa pilipinas tayo... walang pera ang music. bisyo ang music... hindi siya kasing mahal ng pagsusugal o pag chi-chix, pero gastos pa rin ito. kung gusto mo magkapera, mag showband ka sa abroad ... im sure may pera ka until mag expire contract mo and balik sa square one.

dont believe MTV, the media or your parents who give you this idea that you are only succesful in music pag may pera ka dito. ang pinaka measure mo ng success is that ppl will watch you kahit di kayo kilala because they think you are good. another measure of success is that you are happy just because you are playing music in front of an audience.

guitargodskitz · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:42:37 PM »

IncX apir tayo brad, tama yung mga sinabi mo

greenweenie · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2008, 05:43:54 PM »

Quote from: IncX on January 23, 2008, 05:32:55 PM

ticket selling has got to be one of the sleaziest and cheesiest way of abusing a band, especially naive highschool kids.

why is it an abuse:

1.) regardless of skill, family members and friends are bound to watch those naive-can barely play their instrument-kids.

2.) all of you are saying "eh paano yung place? yung production organization? yung nagbabantay ng gates?" ... hell, what kind of place is that anyway? a crap bar right? or an ugly house with crappy surplus amps with 'mic' labelled on the bass input jack? and yes, di ka na nga nila binabayaran, they make money out of you pa... taking advantage of your naivete/stupidity, making you do marketing, selling, advertising and bringing in ppl to their crappy place. you dont get paid for that and you NEVER will.

3.) those production orgs dont care about music and bands... they only care about the band who can make the ticket sales quota... so kahit na kaya mo lang tugtugin is "pare ko" na mali mali pa ang chords at wala sa timing ang bass at drums, pasok pa rin! ... kaya mo naman hatakin mga classmates at parents mo eh.

look, if you wanna get gig experience... get 3 bands na schoolmates mo, rent cheap a** equipment at tumugtog kayo sa bday ng classmate mo for free...

4.) i have played on 2 of those gigs before and guess what? you dont get treated right and you get "reprimanded" for not making the sales quota. the mood there is also very unfriendly kasi kampo kampo yung bands at audience ... the audience only go in pag yung banda na ng kakilala nila ang nasa stage. thats not loving music in my book, thats basically just watching someone you know kasi you dont have anything else to do for the night.

i suggest you musicians not to be desperate enough to fall for this money making schemes of some losers who cant find good day jobs... instead of joining those prods, i suggest you just find amateur bands in your school or in philmusic and then mag usap kayo kung paano kayo mag organize... siguro naman kung magtulong tulong kayo at mag respetuhan ng sariling equipment pwede kayo magkumpol kumpol at mag organize ng gigs...

and dont expect na makakapera or makakabawi kayo sa pag organize ng gigs... remember, nasa pilipinas tayo... walang pera ang music. bisyo ang music... hindi siya kasing mahal ng pagsusugal o pag chi-chix, pero gastos pa rin ito. kung gusto mo magkapera, mag showband ka sa abroad ... im sure may pera ka until mag expire contract mo and balik sa square one.

dont believe MTV, the media or your parents who give you this idea that you are only succesful in music pag may pera ka dito. ang pinaka measure mo ng success is that ppl will watch you kahit di kayo kilala because they think you are good. another measure of success is that you are happy just because you are playing music in front of an audience.

+100 raised to effing infinity.

helfea · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2008, 12:14:17 AM »

we should not support ticket-selling gigs because it is the prod's job to promote the gig. the band's job is to show up and perform. KAHIT THANK YOU LANG ANG BAYAD, basta hindi na imposed na mag-benta.

In fact dapat nga yung banda ang binabayaran para sa talent nila e. meron ibang ticket selling pag kulang ang ire-remit mong money hindi ka patutugtugin. meron ding ibang pag andun na kayo with complete guests, biglang hindi pa rin kayo patutugtugin kahit naka remit na kayo ng ticket sales. hindi to exaggeration, nakalap ko to sa mga kids today hehe, parang urban legend baga.

tsaka sana naman wag 24-25 band line-ups sa isang gabi, tapos tig-iisang kanta, kalokohan yun hahaha. PUNONG-PUNO NGA YUNG BAR, LAHAT NAMAN MEMBER NG BANDA, e di wala din kinita yung bar o yung prod haha.

note to bands, hindi lahat ng bars e malaki ang bar guarantee, alamin niyo sa manager or owner para alam din nating lahat ang sitwasyonat hindi kayo maisahan ng prod. tsaka pag may na-set na call time, pumunta kayo on time para maiwasan ang singitan at hassle hehe. be professional para mapilitan maging professional din yung mga amateur prods.

tsaka sana sa mga prods, ayusin ang pagline-up ng banda, wala dapat singitan. meron paminsan pag may "guest" band may option silang pumili ng slot. ulol sila, kaya nga tayo nasa underground kasi ayaw natin ng mga "rockstar-primadonna attitude" e haha

. tsaka give the bands their due. kahit tig-iisang libreng beer masaya na yun. kung may ticket share ayos din, malamang sa hindi lugi pa rin yung banda nun e, pero at least may pamasahe o pang-gas haha

enjoyin natin ang pagtugtog, walang gaguhan. tsaka sana wag ma-traumatize ang mga bata, baka wala nang tumuloy sa pagtugtog kung laging manlalamang ang mga prods hehe.

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Author Topic: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig? (Read 37855 times)