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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2008, 04:25:52 PM »
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tsaka sana naman wag 24-25 band line-ups sa isang gabi, tapos tig-iisang kanta, kalokohan yun hahaha. PUNONG-PUNO NGA YUNG BAR, LAHAT NAMAN MEMBER NG BANDA, e di wala din kinita yung bar o yung prod haha.


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may napuntahan kami dati umabot ng 60 o 70 ata ang naka line up. Alas dose na wala pa sa kalahati ang nakakatugtog.

Umuwi na lang kami, no choice eh, pagbabayarin ka na, tas mapupuyat ka pa kakahintay sa slot mo na baka di na dumating. Kung umagahin ka dun "Sorry Try Again" na lang kayo.

Ok lang naman sa amin, matanda na kami, kawawa yung mga studyante na kung sang lupalop pa nanggaling na nag commute bitbit yung mga gamit nila para lang malaman na alas 4 pa sila makakatugtog at magbabayad pa sila ng kung magkano.

panalo di ba?

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2008, 04:31:47 PM »

 depende talaga sa production, marami rin kase may ayaw ng ticket selling

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« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2008, 06:08:26 PM »
sana naman mabasa to ng ibang prod na tix selling. simula page 1. :) kahit mga bring guest na prod. parang ganun din kasi eh. pero mas mabigaat tlga yung tix selling na 10-15 tix pa. ang alam ko may mga prod na bring guest lang tapos bring guest minimum of three. tapos konti lang banda. pwede pa 3-4 songs.

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« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2008, 04:56:44 AM »
GANTO LANG YAN. YUNG AYAW NG TICKET SELL EDI WAG SUMALI SA PROD NA MERONG TICKETSELL. YUNG OK LANG SAKANILA EDI SAMA SILA. 8-)

Hehe Cool.... Pag may ticket selling ako nalang bibili nung ibang ticket bibigay ko sa mga friends ko di pa naman kami sikat. Matutuwa pa sila kasi libre...

Basta wag lang super dami na ticket ok lang.... :-)

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« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2008, 03:59:56 PM »
tamang kilatis lang ng prod. in the first place pagnagpapalineup ang banda tinatanong kung ano rules and regulations ng isang prod. now kung sa tingin nyo mahirap ang sistema, then wag kayo sumali. hnd naman namppwersa ang prod na sumali ung mga banda e. kung sino lang my gusto. that's why pagnagttext blitz. "we're inviting you..." hindi "we're requiring you to play..." ako ayoko ng ticket sell, but now we are holding production, hnd rin maiiwasan e. pano security bond sa bar? e daming banda dyan di mo alam kung galing manila zoo. halos wasakin mga gamit. mga pgbunot ng jack. hataw sa drums wala naman dala kahit na ano. pagON ng psu. bla bla bla. my ibabayad ba? away pa yan pagsiningil. ayaw naman namen ilipat sa banda ang responsibility sa bar rent and bar security. kami paren my sagot kung anong kabulastugan ang gawin nyo e. y dont you try to talk to bars, try to hold a prod... ul see.. or maybe... just rent and play on your own event place para walang hassel sa banda...

its just really simple guys. those who hate then dont join, or if u want you can make your own gig. those who understand us prods... thank you so much! mamili nalang kayo kung san kayo komportable na prod.

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2008, 05:43:11 AM »
AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!!!!! Iscx-

Just because you'll be part of the known bands gig you need to sell 8 tikets? then they will ask you for a down payment?!! GOD MAN!...
That's very apportunist way of thinking. :|
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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2008, 09:44:56 AM »
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now kung sa tingin nyo mahirap ang sistema

ang mahirap kasi sa mga ibang prod, di din sila straightforward sa mga banda.

ang pinakamaganda dito magtanong tanong ang mga banda kung aling mga prod ang ok at alin ang mga hindi

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« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2008, 09:59:28 AM »
ang mahirap kasi sa mga ibang prod, di din sila straightforward sa mga banda.

ang pinakamaganda dito magtanong tanong ang mga banda kung aling mga prod ang ok at alin ang mga hindi



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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2008, 04:16:38 PM »
tamang kilatis lang ng prod. in the first place pagnagpapalineup ang banda tinatanong kung ano rules and regulations ng isang prod. now kung sa tingin nyo mahirap ang sistema, then wag kayo sumali. hnd naman namppwersa ang prod na sumali ung mga banda e. kung sino lang my gusto. that's why pagnagttext blitz. "we're inviting you..." hindi "we're requiring you to play..." ako ayoko ng ticket sell, but now we are holding production, hnd rin maiiwasan e. pano security bond sa bar? e daming banda dyan di mo alam kung galing manila zoo. halos wasakin mga gamit. mga pgbunot ng jack. hataw sa drums wala naman dala kahit na ano. pagON ng psu. bla bla bla. my ibabayad ba? away pa yan pagsiningil. ayaw naman namen ilipat sa banda ang responsibility sa bar rent and bar security. kami paren my sagot kung anong kabulastugan ang gawin nyo e. y dont you try to talk to bars, try to hold a prod... ul see.. or maybe... just rent and play on your own event place para walang hassel sa banda...

its just really simple guys. those who hate then dont join, or if u want you can make your own gig. those who understand us prods... thank you so much! mamili nalang kayo kung san kayo komportable na prod.

-LUCY PRODUCTION -


i agree to sir bitusan.

besides, if magaling ang banda natin, bakit ba tayo mahihirapan magbenta ng tickets? audience na mismo ang lalapit sa atin.  if they like watching our band, there's no reason na mahihirapan tayong  magbenta ng mga tickets.

and sir's and maam's, as a friend of jaja from heartburn productions, mahirap po talaga ang pnagdadaanan ng isang prod. try natin mag-organize ng prod before tayo mag-criticize.

and we should not HATE ticket selling productions. if we hate them, why don't we just help them na lang? like tulungan natin clang maghanap ng sponsors to fund all expenses para wala na rin ticket selling hndi ba?


the problem with us eh datdat na lang tayo ng datdat without knowing the other side of the story.

peace.

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2008, 04:17:48 PM »
tamang kilatis lang ng prod. in the first place pagnagpapalineup ang banda tinatanong kung ano rules and regulations ng isang prod. now kung sa tingin nyo mahirap ang sistema, then wag kayo sumali. hnd naman namppwersa ang prod na sumali ung mga banda e. kung sino lang my gusto. that's why pagnagttext blitz. "we're inviting you..." hindi "we're requiring you to play..." ako ayoko ng ticket sell, but now we are holding production, hnd rin maiiwasan e. pano security bond sa bar? e daming banda dyan di mo alam kung galing manila zoo. halos wasakin mga gamit. mga pgbunot ng jack. hataw sa drums wala naman dala kahit na ano. pagON ng psu. bla bla bla. my ibabayad ba? away pa yan pagsiningil. ayaw naman namen ilipat sa banda ang responsibility sa bar rent and bar security. kami paren my sagot kung anong kabulastugan ang gawin nyo e. y dont you try to talk to bars, try to hold a prod... ul see.. or maybe... just rent and play on your own event place para walang hassel sa banda...

its just really simple guys. those who hate then dont join, or if u want you can make your own gig. those who understand us prods... thank you so much! mamili nalang kayo kung san kayo komportable na prod.

-LUCY PRODUCTION -

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2008, 05:18:35 PM »

i agree to sir bitusan.

besides, if magaling ang banda natin, bakit ba tayo mahihirapan magbenta ng tickets? audience na mismo ang lalapit sa atin.  if they like watching our band, there's no reason na mahihirapan tayong  magbenta ng mga tickets.

and sir's and maam's, as a friend of jaja from heartburn productions, mahirap po talaga ang pnagdadaanan ng isang prod. try natin mag-organize ng prod before tayo mag-criticize.

and we should not HATE ticket selling productions. if we hate them, why don't we just help them na lang? like tulungan natin clang maghanap ng sponsors to fund all expenses para wala na rin ticket selling hndi ba?


the problem with us eh datdat na lang tayo ng datdat without knowing the other side of the story.

peace.


sir ang puso. :lol:

ei heartburn prod! astig na prod to! :-D
lagi kami iniinvite! salamat sir! helo sakanila!

"and sir's and maam's, as a friend of jaja from heartburn productions, mahirap po talaga ang pnagdadaanan ng isang prod. try natin mag-organize ng prod before tayo mag-criticize. "

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2008, 09:42:27 PM »
Magsstart ka ba ng business ng walang puhunan?

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« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2008, 02:15:27 AM »

i agree to sir bitusan.

besides, if magaling ang banda natin, bakit ba tayo mahihirapan magbenta ng tickets? audience na mismo ang lalapit sa atin.  if they like watching our band, there's no reason na mahihirapan tayong  magbenta ng mga tickets.

and sir's and maam's, as a friend of jaja from heartburn productions, mahirap po talaga ang pnagdadaanan ng isang prod. try natin mag-organize ng prod before tayo mag-criticize.

and we should not HATE ticket selling productions. if we hate them, why don't we just help them na lang? like tulungan natin clang maghanap ng sponsors to fund all expenses para wala na rin ticket selling hndi ba?


the problem with us eh datdat na lang tayo ng datdat without knowing the other side of the story.

peace.


hehe, the point is not to generalize... meron din namang ok na prod e, pero mostly yung ok na prod yung hindi ticket-selling hehe... we know the other side of the story pero yung ibang dahi-dahilan e medyo gasgas na hehe... tama din yung aspect about going into a business without producing capital... maski mga banda nagpupuhunan din naman ng gamit e... be discriminative of money-making scheme-prods,  yun bang tipong hindi naman music lovers, they're just there to cash in on the band boom right now :-D
tsaka maski gaano kagaling ang banda nyo and hindi problem ang hatak ng crowd, trabaho pa din ng producer ang advertisement ng prod nya... :-D try nyo alukin ang mga mainstream acts ngayon, lalo na yung ibang mayayabang.. oo hindi sila mahihirapan humanap ng bebentahan, ang tanong, magbebenta kaya sila? hehe :-D

and hate is such a strong word, ang point dito is kung agree o hindi  :-D
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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2008, 11:53:42 PM »
guys, we have an event @ mayrics this 12th of february. tugtog kau. wala ticket selling pero help nyo na lang kme sa guest. rentals kc ng bar alone eh 4k-5.5k  tas maximum of 8 bands. (so sana mga 5 guest per band)  tas rent pa kme cymbals since barag na mga cymbals nla dun. so we'll shoulder the cymbal rentals pa unless tulungan or pahiraman tau hndi ba? hehehe. baka tugtog dn pala dn kme kaya fair lang lahat tau dhel magbebenta dn kme or me ng tickets. hehe

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #39 on: February 03, 2008, 01:13:29 PM »
let me comment on this one, i am part of a band and also part of a prod. first, as a part of a band, tama lng naman na mjo mairita tyo sa mga ticketselling productions, pro it's really up to us kung papatulan natin ung mga prods na ganito. nakakapagod magbenta ng tickets, pro ang sarap ng feeling pagmadaming pumapalkpak syo diba, plus, you meet other musicians na pdeng makatulong snyo in the future. bago kami magtayo ng prod, ayaw din naming magticketselling, kasi naranasan na namin magabono ng 1500 pesos kasi indian mga bisita namin. pero tnry namin magpaprod na hindi ticketselling, ina bot kami ng around 8k na abono sa bar guarantee lng at rent ng gamit, wala p ung posters and ads. di talaga maiiwasan. as part of a ticketselling prod, naiintnindihan namin mga hinaing ninyong mga banda. pero sana wag tyo magpakahypocrite diba, kung ayaw nyo magticketselling, eh di wag nyo supportahan mga ganitong prod, or kung gusto nyong maayos na prod, matuto kyong makisama, hindi yung tipong pagnakatalikod ung production, titirahin nyo pro magpupumilit pa dn kayo sumali sa susunod na event nila. i think one of the reasons din kung bakit bumabalik ang mga banda sa ticketselling prods kasi nakakita din sila ng sense of belongingness and company. and also, sa prod naman namin we see to it na maganda ung quality, ung tipong uuwi ung mga taong masaya, pro hindi mo maiiwasang may magalit talaga. chaka, tama nga naman, tulungan nyo maghanap ng sponsors ang mga prods para hindi na magticketselling. sino bang may gusto nun? diba? and if you want na maganda ung event ng mga prod at walang gaguhan, be fair and professional, dumating sa oras, sumunod sa policies, magsaya.... un lng naman... chaka idol ko heartburn... hehehehe... and nga pla, gig announcements tong forum na to, hindi naman gig ung inaanounce sa thread na to ah.... napansin ko lng... steady lng ok?

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #40 on: February 03, 2008, 02:14:06 PM »

there are 3 kinds of productions actually:

1.) one who is after the money.
2.) one who thinks he can help the "music scene" and start a career out of it.
3.) one who just does it for fun and doesnt care about money.

the first one are ppl of the slimiest kind... they dont like music, they care about what is uso, but lastly, and they only care about your ability to sell tickets. kick them in the kneecaps if you must.

the 2nd one usually consist of ppl who are also musicians themselves ... they dont wanna have real day jobs, so they are giving the "production" thing a shot. a lot of them lack organizational skills (ok, a lot of prod on a budget have little to no organizational skills despite being type 1, 2 or 3). deep inside them is a conflict between good and evil... good, meaning getting the 'good' bands... and bad, meaning getting that one band just because it has the ability to make the ticket selling "quota." of course, these guys care about profits... and they have the tendency to overestimate the "music scene" by booking gigs at clubs that require 10K deposit and breakage fee... then they rent  high end amps, cymbals, etc. sometimes they make a band play eventhough they dont reach the quota because as ive said, they also are musicians and they know what you feel. However, someday they'll either evolve into Type 1's or Type 3's ... or even better, they just dont run the production thing ever. Their lack of capital and organizational skills added with the poor economics will eventually drive them bankrupt.

the last one ... now these guys are usually found in underground gigs... they really dont care about money but they want to have a gig once a month... so breaking even is their goal. they avoid those expensive places and would be doing their productions in the places that understand their niche. their equipment range from very poor to so and so... so you wont expect any tube amps from prods like these. however, the good thing is that there is no ticket selling at all... you will be booked after they like you and your music. eventually these guys disapear because they have to get day jobs eventually and cant focus on just the music anymore. and the glaring disadvantage of prods like these is that they are limited to certain scenes i.e. punk, metal, hardcore, etc. there is no room for variety here. of course there are excemptions to prods like these but they are too rare to have a subtype of their own.

OK, so which prod is right for you:

-if you are a band that plays bad but not bad enough to make ppl throw rocks at you.. you join:

prod TYPE 1. invite all your friends and relatives ... sell those tickets and make a quota - or hell, pay for the tickets yourselves!!!! you need to have the stage experience ... BUT ... only do this once. doing it more than once means you are pathetic and you are supporting those slimes.


-if you are a band who doesnt have connections or you belong into a musical segment that is 'unknown' meaning, you dont sound like anyone at all (but please, be realistic... i have heard 45699745 bands claim to sound unique but all i can hear is a metal, and punk sound alike). you join:

prod TYPE 2. you dont belong to a scene, so this is your best bet... a variety gig. it would take a lot of gigs for you to be known, and im sure you would quit even before you got popular, especially if you sound too weird and loud at the same time. speaking of bands like that... i really admire Updharma Down. they surely are a band thats not metal, punk, jazz, pop, etc. i dont know how they started out or how they landed a contact... but im sure they started gigging in prods that organized variety music, shopped their music, and got some ppl interested.


-if you belong to certain music genres with known scenes i.e. punk, metal, hardcore, etc. or your music is the current uso i.e. pop screamo, metalcore, mall emo you join:

-prod type 3. yep... they exclusively cater to these bands. search them on myspace, make friends with them... hang out with them, watch their shows... and you are always assured of a good time. however, the moment you betray them and start shopping your music to the mainstream... or begin playing in prods that are against their beliefs, prepare to be excommunicated. while these prods are hassle free... its disadvantage is that there are a lot of invisible rules for you to adhere to. it is no problem if it turns out your beliefs are similar to theirs.

-*-

and lastly... no, ppl wont watch you because you are a 'good' band. ppl will watch you if you:

1.) play well
2.) gig a lot
3.) are nice to everyone around you and dont carry your musics image in your day to day leaning.

you should see a lot of steve vai type guitarists who are ignored because they gig once every 5 months and they go home right away without watching other bands play.

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« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2008, 09:31:59 AM »
there are 3 kinds of productions actually:

1.) one who is after the money.
2.) one who thinks he can help the "music scene" and start a career out of it.
3.) one who just does it for fun and doesnt care about money.

the first one are ppl of the slimiest kind... they dont like music, they care about what is uso, but lastly, and they only care about your ability to sell tickets. kick them in the kneecaps if you must.

the 2nd one usually consist of ppl who are also musicians themselves ... they dont wanna have real day jobs, so they are giving the "production" thing a shot. a lot of them lack organizational skills (ok, a lot of prod on a budget have little to no organizational skills despite being type 1, 2 or 3). deep inside them is a conflict between good and evil... good, meaning getting the 'good' bands... and bad, meaning getting that one band just because it has the ability to make the ticket selling "quota." of course, these guys care about profits... and they have the tendency to overestimate the "music scene" by booking gigs at clubs that require 10K deposit and breakage fee... then they rent  high end amps, cymbals, etc. sometimes they make a band play eventhough they dont reach the quota because as ive said, they also are musicians and they know what you feel. However, someday they'll either evolve into Type 1's or Type 3's ... or even better, they just dont run the production thing ever. Their lack of capital and organizational skills added with the poor economics will eventually drive them bankrupt.

the last one ... now these guys are usually found in underground gigs... they really dont care about money but they want to have a gig once a month... so breaking even is their goal. they avoid those expensive places and would be doing their productions in the places that understand their niche. their equipment range from very poor to so and so... so you wont expect any tube amps from prods like these. however, the good thing is that there is no ticket selling at all... you will be booked after they like you and your music. eventually these guys disapear because they have to get day jobs eventually and cant focus on just the music anymore. and the glaring disadvantage of prods like these is that they are limited to certain scenes i.e. punk, metal, hardcore, etc. there is no room for variety here. of course there are excemptions to prods like these but they are too rare to have a subtype of their own.

OK, so which prod is right for you:

-if you are a band that plays bad but not bad enough to make ppl throw rocks at you.. you join:

prod TYPE 1. invite all your friends and relatives ... sell those tickets and make a quota - or hell, pay for the tickets yourselves!!!! you need to have the stage experience ... BUT ... only do this once. doing it more than once means you are pathetic and you are supporting those slimes.


-if you are a band who doesnt have connections or you belong into a musical segment that is 'unknown' meaning, you dont sound like anyone at all (but please, be realistic... i have heard 45699745 bands claim to sound unique but all i can hear is a metal, and punk sound alike). you join:

prod TYPE 2. you dont belong to a scene, so this is your best bet... a variety gig. it would take a lot of gigs for you to be known, and im sure you would quit even before you got popular, especially if you sound too weird and loud at the same time. speaking of bands like that... i really admire Updharma Down. they surely are a band thats not metal, punk, jazz, pop, etc. i dont know how they started out or how they landed a contact... but im sure they started gigging in prods that organized variety music, shopped their music, and got some ppl interested.


-if you belong to certain music genres with known scenes i.e. punk, metal, hardcore, etc. or your music is the current uso i.e. pop screamo, metalcore, mall emo you join:

-prod type 3. yep... they exclusively cater to these bands. search them on myspace, make friends with them... hang out with them, watch their shows... and you are always assured of a good time. however, the moment you betray them and start shopping your music to the mainstream... or begin playing in prods that are against their beliefs, prepare to be excommunicated. while these prods are hassle free... its disadvantage is that there are a lot of invisible rules for you to adhere to. it is no problem if it turns out your beliefs are similar to theirs.

-*-

and lastly... no, ppl wont watch you because you are a 'good' band. ppl will watch you if you:

1.) play well
2.) gig a lot
3.) are nice to everyone around you and dont carry your musics image in your day to day leaning.

you should see a lot of steve vai type guitarists who are ignored because they gig once every 5 months and they go home right away without watching other bands play.

this sums it up, very well said meng..

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« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2008, 10:43:12 AM »
dito samen sa sta rosa laguna.. usually we gig sa mga inde ticket selling.. ung metal hardcore bands lang.. mismong pinpondohan talaga at minsan free beer.. ang ticket selling is for just sa mga nagsstart.. especially sa manila gigs..
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« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2008, 11:24:15 AM »
hello...i think i cn share the same dilema here...if we are thinking of how the bars cn make revenues they cn make it on their items to sell inside the bar...not necessarily people that the band should bring...its on the shoulders of the bar itself...yes bringing a guest that should pay entrnce to the bars is a good strategy but...i'd rather bring them as a guest to the bar than a payee on the bar..because the bands itself helps the program of the bar in complimentary...right.....its much better to get revenue on the purchases like the drinks and foods etc....the marketing prowess of the bar should do something better initiative rather that to ask a certain thing for the band which obligates them...but again its the preferences of both sides...but....if i had to have bar...i rather think ways to earn revenue....so much on minds to explore.....just to be unique to others...as the same interest sharing the music industry we want to help relive the music..of other aspiring bands.....well ciao?!....rock on?!

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2008, 04:10:39 PM »
i understand the producer's side.. but honestly.. i hate em..

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« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2008, 04:12:02 PM »
i understand the producer's side.. but honestly.. i hate em.. para kasing nagiging perahan nalang eh..

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #46 on: February 11, 2008, 01:27:46 AM »

I understand both sides sa prods at bands, oo mahirap magbenta ng tikets lalo na sa hirap ng buhay pero syempre pano naman ung prods at bars e halos wla na naman libre sa mundo d b??? kng bring ur guest ka lng pano pag nde nag-order o konti lng order ng mga guests, edi kawawa naman ung prods at kawawa rin ung mga bars d b dahil sa expenses at pasweldo.. Kng nde tyo magtutulungan wlang mangyayari, pero sa mga prods naman wag naman sna mabigat ang pinapabenta nyo para masaya lahat, ok na sna ung breakeven :P

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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #47 on: February 11, 2008, 09:15:21 PM »
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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2008, 12:16:23 AM »
both sides nagpapakahirap.. pero mas hussle s bands kc

1. di ba naiicip ng prod na bago mabuo ng band ang mga songs nila, gumastos
    ang mga band para s renta ng studio for rehearsals? let say 150/hr,
    s 1hr palang kulang pa.. at kadalasan it takes 3 hrs p para lang masabing ok   
    n ung pondo ng band.. di lang yun.. pati transpo and effort..kwentahin nio..
    and kadalasan, d lang isang araw un..and they're giving their best.
   
2. di ba nila naiicip kung gano kahirap sumipra or magcompose ng music and
    ung time na ginugugol ng mga aspiring band para lang mabuo un? para lang
    mapasaya ang mga guest ng prod..d ba maxadong abuso kung kumikita ang
    prod samantalang ung band na binabalikan ng guests ay ni isang kusing
    walang nakukuha..

3. di ba nila naiicip na maxado namang pabigat s mga band n pagbentahin p cla
    ng tickets ng more than 5?.. d p ba abala and abuso un? exposure n nga lang
    bayad ng prod para s band e saka palakpak.. pati ba naman un? kadalasan s
    mga band members nag leave s work, d nakatulog sa excitement, napuyat sa
    kakacpra and pagcocompose, nagprepare ng husto wag lang mapahiya,
    nagipon pambili ng gamit, nababatikos ng magulang dahil madalas
    nasasabihan na wala namang pera sa banda.. db todo discouragement un?

kaya tingin ko sa "mga ganung prod.." d sapat na sabihing "for exposure" para lang maengganyo ang band na sumali.. kawawa talaga ang mga musician n gipit
masunod lang ang passion nila s music.. and di cla nakakatulong pag ganun..
actually.. nilalagay nila ang bands sa point na madidismaya sila hanggang sa madiscourage na ng tuluyan.. kasi walang bumabalik sa pagod hirap n  nilalabas
nila.. masakit man pakinggan pero s aking opinion ( it's my opinion at d nio mababago un) ginagatasan lng nila ang mga banda..totoo un.. kasi prod lang ang kumakabig.. sa exposure.. suntok sa buwan kung may makakapansin sa
inyo.. isa lang naman dapat jan patas na labanan.mabalik lang ang pinaghirapan..

we know n d lahat ng prod ganun pero kung isa kayo sa tinamaan.. it means ganun kayo magpaprod..
 
much better kahit n kumita ang prod ng maliit
at nabibigyan  ang band ng "kahit konte"..pampagana..kesa  katukin naman ang
nagpaprod ng kunsesnsya nila.. db? kung ganun ang nagpapaprod..
kahit araw arw p yan..im sure mas malaki ang kikitain nila at nakakatulong p cla..
db?

anyway this is my opinion..and wala rin mangyayari kung ipipilit nio skin ung gusto nio..respetuhan nalng..

peace!! mabuhay ang mga passionate musicians!!
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Re: OT: Do you hate selling tickets (for the production outfit) of your gig?
« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2008, 01:59:48 PM »
hassle pa, lalo na kung ang kanta mo mga tig 1 min to 2 min lang, tapos galit pa pag sumobra sa 2 ang kanta ikaw ba payag ka mag antay tapos mas matagal pa sa setup yun tugtog nyo, tapos sa susunod na event i baban ka pa dahil lagpas sa dalawa ang tinugtog nyo eh kung tutuusin yun kanta eh less than 5 min lang for 3 songs..