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Offline Stay Defiant

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #75 on: September 07, 2008, 12:26:18 AM »
tanong lang mga chong.

sellout ba pag ang musikero ay sumulat ng kanta para sa ibang tao as opposed to writing songs for yourself.
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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #76 on: September 07, 2008, 01:12:26 PM »
tanong lang mga chong.

sellout ba pag ang musikero ay sumulat ng kanta para sa ibang tao as opposed to writing songs for yourself.

no of course!  :lol: :lol:

there are a lot of great song writers who cannot give justice to a song if they sing it themselves.

a great songwriter paired with a great singer makes for a great combination.

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #77 on: September 07, 2008, 08:37:25 PM »
hindi ganon ang ibig sabihin ko chong.

heres an example

ang hirap ng buhay ngayon. mahal ang bilihin, pamasahe, etc.
ikaw ay isang mayaman na "rakista". napaisip "hmm, sulat nga ako ng kanta tungkol sa mahihirap".
tapos nagustuhan ng mga tao kasi ayun ang hinihintay nilang anthem at lalo kang yumaman.

parang ganito, sumulat ka ng kanta tungkol sa isang o grupo ng tao. na hindi mo naman alam ang kalagayan o kilala. pero ayun ang gusto nilang marinig. parang sinusulat mo ang lifestory nila instead na sarili mong experience.

^^ang hirap i-tagalog^^

"if you cant relate to the song thats fine. if my personal experience help you in someways, im forever grateful. but remember, IM WRITING MUSIC FOR MYSELF NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE"

parang nasagot ko na ang tanong ko.
sell out ang "rakista" pag ang sinusulat/tinutugtug ay kung ano gusto ng mga tao. (as i stated from previous pages, "sunod sunuran ka sa ibang tao")
at worst pa hindi mo naman experience ang nangyari sa kanila.


no of course!  :lol: :lol:

there are a lot of great song writers who cannot give justice to a song if they sing it themselves.

a great songwriter paired with a great singer makes for a great combination.


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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #78 on: September 07, 2008, 11:17:43 PM »

ah i get you now. pasensya bro ha.  :wink:

Yeah, i think in a way it best describes the common perception of selling out.
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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #79 on: September 09, 2008, 01:05:34 AM »
hindi ganon ang ibig sabihin ko chong.

heres an example

ang hirap ng buhay ngayon. mahal ang bilihin, pamasahe, etc.
ikaw ay isang mayaman na "rakista". napaisip "hmm, sulat nga ako ng kanta tungkol sa mahihirap".
tapos nagustuhan ng mga tao kasi ayun ang hinihintay nilang anthem at lalo kang yumaman.

parang ganito, sumulat ka ng kanta tungkol sa isang o grupo ng tao. na hindi mo naman alam ang kalagayan o kilala. pero ayun ang gusto nilang marinig. parang sinusulat mo ang lifestory nila instead na sarili mong experience.

^^ang hirap i-tagalog^^

"if you cant relate to the song thats fine. if my personal experience help you in someways, im forever grateful. but remember, IM WRITING MUSIC FOR MYSELF NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE"

parang nasagot ko na ang tanong ko.
sell out ang "rakista" pag ang sinusulat/tinutugtug ay kung ano gusto ng mga tao. (as i stated from previous pages, "sunod sunuran ka sa ibang tao")
at worst pa hindi mo naman experience ang nangyari sa kanila.

parang grey area eh. di ba kapag nagsulat ka ng love song para sa ibang tao katulad na rin ng sinabi mo? tsaka parang matatanong din na kailangan mo bang ma-experience muna bago ka magkaroon ng karapatin isulat?  :-)


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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2008, 03:25:42 AM »
depende rin naman iyon ser sa sitwasyon. gaya halimbawa ikaw ay kinomisyon 

para sumulat ng pyesa na gagamitin halimbawa para sa isang malaking

pagtitipon o anumang awareness campaign.

  EDSA 1, ilang kasamahan nating musikero ay gumawa ng ilang awitin para jan.
 
sina maestro HEBER at JUAN dela CRUZ ay ilan lamang sa mga musikerong

lumikha ng mga musikang naglalarawan ng pag-arw arw na buhay natin at

sumasalamin sa kasalukuyang lipunan. may nagreklamo ba? ok naman di ba?
 
ok lang iyon ser :mrgreen:

kung yumaman ka man o lalong naghirap dahil sa musika mo,,ok lang yon

mahalaga anjan pa rin s yo ang musika :-)
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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #81 on: September 09, 2008, 01:23:59 PM »
There's nothing wrong with selling out, or SELLING, for that matter, until you realize it later...
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Offline Stay Defiant

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #82 on: September 09, 2008, 04:34:05 PM »
hmm, hirap nito ah.
siguro nasa sarili na ito. kung maganda ang intention, ayos lang.

depende rin naman iyon ser sa sitwasyon. gaya halimbawa ikaw ay kinomisyon 

para sumulat ng pyesa na gagamitin halimbawa para sa isang malaking

pagtitipon o anumang awareness campaign.

  EDSA 1, ilang kasamahan nating musikero ay gumawa ng ilang awitin para jan.
 
sina maestro HEBER at JUAN dela CRUZ ay ilan lamang sa mga musikerong

lumikha ng mga musikang naglalarawan ng pag-arw arw na buhay natin at

sumasalamin sa kasalukuyang lipunan. may nagreklamo ba? ok naman di ba?
 
ok lang iyon ser :mrgreen:

kung yumaman ka man o lalong naghirap dahil sa musika mo,,ok lang yon

mahalaga anjan pa rin s yo ang musika :-)
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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2008, 04:42:45 PM »
For me, Wala namang sell out sa music eh. If you make music because you like it then do so! A good song is still a good song even if the song doesn't really pertain to the one who wrote it.

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #84 on: September 17, 2008, 03:46:58 AM »
Stay Defiant, na-gets ko ang ibig mong sabihin. :) I remember dati, tinira ng iba si Dave Pirner of Soul Asylum, kanta daw sya ng kanta ng misery when he is screwing Winona Ryder :D

Parang, what's the point of singing/writing about death, sadness and misery when you are happily married. Will you can catch my drift :)


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Offline AnalogKiD

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #85 on: September 26, 2008, 02:18:00 AM »
Si Manny Pacquiao sell out big time!!!
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Offline Stay Defiant

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #86 on: October 07, 2008, 11:28:22 PM »
buhayin ko lang ang thread na ito.

napanood ko tong video dati. *language warning*


panoorin niyo from 7:14 to 9:22.

ano sa palagay niyo.
"The moment you sell 1 CD your a f*cking sellout."
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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #87 on: October 08, 2008, 09:46:08 AM »
ano sa palagay niyo.
"The moment you sell 1 CD your a f*cking sellout."

that's stupid.  how can the music industry survive if everyone thinks like this?  magiging dependent lang lahat ng musicians on gig earnings?  mahirap ata to.  :-(
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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #88 on: October 08, 2008, 02:33:34 PM »
Sell-out = kapag ang intention mo ay maging fans ang dati mong ayaw maging fans

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #89 on: December 06, 2008, 01:01:47 PM »
dito papasok ung individual differences ntin mga kapatid.... sell out or passion kahit ano pa man music pa din yan.... we have our own choice and control for everything dat we do bsta alam ntin na kaya natin panindigan ung outcome...

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« Reply #90 on: January 03, 2009, 04:33:33 AM »
Sell-out = kapag ang intention mo ay maging fans ang dati mong ayaw maging fans
+1 sir!

tipong nakikisabay sa uso.
kumbaga as an artist, you're selling emo music pero ikaw pala si jed madela... and your doing it 'cause its the "uso ngayon music".
kunwari lang naman.
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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #91 on: January 03, 2009, 07:23:53 AM »

There's nothing wrong with it, its just sad and frustrating because it makes it so obvious that you're not in it for the music anymore, but for the fame, the fortune, the babes, the whole nine yards.

and it makes it so damn frustrating for artists to express themselves seeing all these pretty boys make it big drifting with the flow while they have to contend with themselves and their underground fanbase about selling out themselves or statying true to themselves.

Asking that question is like asking whats wrong with loving someone who doesnt love you back or is it wrong to not go to church on sunday. There's nothing wrong, its just a sad fact of life, or in this case the music industry, I mean, everyone's gotta earn and eat sometime (or probably buy that new car).
Try growing up. Its pretty sweet. Makes you look less of a fool.

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #92 on: January 16, 2009, 05:51:23 PM »
Siguro kasi naiiwan yung iba kaya tingin ng iba "something's wrong with selling out."  Music is a form of art that reaches out. Likewise, may business side din ang music. Noong 60s marami ang nagalit ke Bob Dylan kasi naging sell-out daw sya as he trasnformed from a folk purist to a rock n roller. Later on, music historians realized how Dylan contributed to the pop/ rock music revolution of the 60s. In the same manner, that if the Beatles stayed at the Cavern, music would not be changed and we would be forever listening to novelties and beach music. Even the Beach Boys made farewell to their kind of music via "Pet Sounds."

Kahit sell out, importante ang music mo is done with taste. It sets to revolutionize and influence (even if it be for a while). Most of the best in music are those which made it commercially, and, which created musical impact.


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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #93 on: February 22, 2009, 11:54:05 PM »
tama... naalala ko din dati may mga nagalit sa metallica dahil sellout daw sila dun sa reload na album. as you can see, isa rin yun sa mga mgandang album ng metallica. mjo naiba at nawala yung pagkatrash nila pro nandun pa rin yung tunog nila. diba? hehehe...

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #94 on: March 02, 2009, 05:32:45 AM »
wala, malaya dapat ang banda kung saan mang direksyon ang gusto niyang kunin, kung hindi maganda yung album, hindi maganda, kung maganda, maganda

kahit na may mga fans na hindi ko tipo o kahit mismo yung banda mukhang at umaarteng hindi maganda pero kung gusto ko yung musika gusto ko sila
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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #95 on: March 05, 2009, 11:48:02 PM »
tama, pero alalahanin din sana natin na ang sining at musika ay ginawa para sa lahat.

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Re: what is wrong with selling out?
« Reply #96 on: March 06, 2009, 07:11:21 AM »
wala at meron.... depende sa intensyon.....
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« Reply #97 on: March 11, 2009, 07:59:15 PM »
me nakilala ako ganyang banda di nila inuna yung magkapera nanaig yung integridad nila bilang banda di sila sangayon sa mga dinidikta ng isang recording label na pagmamayari ng isang tv network bakya kasi kalalabasan nila sa huli floating contrata hanggang kumuha sila ng abogado para ma release sila sa kontrata ng recording label na yun. ewan ko kung ano na nangyari sa kanila nagkaroon pa sila ng one hit wonder nung nineties.
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