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Offline markthevirtuoso

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The Kings of Solid State Tone
« on: February 05, 2008, 05:12:32 PM »


http://guitargeek.com/rigview/591/

http://forums.musictoyz.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6566030191/m/2306017863

I always thought Albert King favored tube amps more as much as many blues players do. Damn, that's some nasty solid-state tone he's got! :-o


Any great 'S-S' cats you have in mind? I've read from a guitar mag that Phil Collen (Def Leppard) favored them too.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2008, 10:29:01 PM by markthevirtuoso »
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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 06:00:59 PM »
BB with his Lab series L5 Amp of course!
Mike Stern uses an old Yamaha g100 ..
and how about them guitar players using the Roland Jazz chorus amps...

musta na Markv!

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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 06:48:54 PM »
Reb Beach? Actaully he uses a Hartke Bass Amp head. Only for his clean sounds.hehehe

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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 07:02:55 PM »
BB with his Lab series L5 Amp of course!
Mike Stern uses an old Yamaha g100 ..
and how about them guitar players using the Roland Jazz chorus amps...

musta na Markv!

Uy, ngayon ko lang nalaman yung L5 at BB King ah. Kala ko Twin Reverb gamit nya lagi.

Oo si Mike Stern pa pala, although nabasa ko sa ilang guitar mags na one of the worst tones of all time sya,hehehe. But then again it's all subjective. :-D

Oks naman ako pareng Sonny. :-)
Reb Beach? Actaully he uses a Hartke Bass Amp head. Only for his clean sounds.hehehe

Yeah, Hair Metal era. :mrgreen:

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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 07:08:07 PM »
Allan Holdsworth used a solid state amp for a long time before endorsing Hughes & Kettner, right? :)
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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 08:06:54 PM »
Allan Holdsworth used a solid state amp for a long time before endorsing Hughes & Kettner, right? :)

Oo, Yamaha SS amp ata ginamit nya for a long time (if i remember correctly). :-)
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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 09:03:19 PM »
Allan Holdsworth used a solid state amp for a long time before endorsing Hughes & Kettner, right? :)
Oo, Yamaha SS amp ata ginamit nya for a long time (if i remember correctly). :-)
Yan,mapa tubo man o solid State. Wala nang tatalo kay mang Allan sa tone nya! Sobrang consistent! :-o

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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 09:36:39 PM »
Frank Gambale, s.s. amp user din. On his recordings and live performances he uses ss amps.

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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 10:02:41 PM »
Ty Tabor used a solid state Gibson
when he was in King's X and
Dimabag Darrell used a solid state Randall
when he was in Pantera..

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 10:23:54 PM »
Andami rin pala... and to think that there are many guitarists who are SS snobs (myself included lalo na pag ang guitar chain ay yung tipong pedals-to-SS amp). :evil:

My tonal perspectives are beginning to change now...yet again.
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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 10:27:05 PM »
Dimebag darrell!
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 10:28:34 PM »
Yan,mapa tubo man o solid State. Wala nang tatalo kay mang Allan sa tone nya! Sobrang consistent! :-o

Oo nga eh. 8-)

Teka baka, dahil sa headless guitar nya yun.hahaha :-D


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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 10:33:41 PM »
Dimebag darrell!

Ambigat neto!!! 8-)

I think some metal players prefer SS amps due to their transient response.
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 10:41:03 PM »
Shadows fall guitarists Jon Donias and Matt Bachand use SS amps right?

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008, 11:48:40 PM »
Oo, Yamaha SS amp ata ginamit nya for a long time (if i remember correctly). :-)

Holdsworth earlier on (round about the early 80's) used Hartley Thompson Amps, which were solid state. He then gravitated to the Gibson/Norlin Lab Series L5 (which B.B. King and Ty Tabor swear/swore by)

Eto, knock yourself out on AH's space invaders era rack http://www.therealallanholdsworth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5727

Pat Metheny earlier on was totally devoted to his "Acoustic" amps to the point of paranoia, that he wouldn't sound the same without them... until he had to perform somewhere in Europe  without then did he realize that it was all in his fingers  :wink: Acoustic amps were pretty nuts in the 70's, huge ass stuff, but they rocked! the sweet used them, and i've seen an old creedence clearwater revival vid with them in use, CRANKED and bloodthirsty.

Pat Martino uses Acoustic Image amps. little cigar box things that pump out a couple of hundred watts of "power without corruption" (i quote the ad! hahaha!)

John Scofield used a Yamaha J-50 in his first instructional video, and used SS yamahas on tour with miles.

Mike Stern, on top of his yamaha, has a pearce SS head which he has his rack effect through.

Scores of jazz monsters still stand by their Polytone (Mini)Brute! Such s John Abercrombie, Jim Hall, (boy) George Benson, Joe Pass (r.i.p)  :wink:...

Richie Kotzen, for a while (uhm, mr. big era?), was using the yamaha DG head, while Holdsworth used two DG combos with extension cabs when dg's were all the buzz. Mike Stern got into them, didn't stick with him though. i just love how hes had the same stuff for, like, forever!!!! We should all follow for the sake of positive economics  :wink:

Andy Summers used the Roland JC-120 alot in the police (among lotsa new wave chorus guys!)

Thank Mark for this thread! It kinda convinced me that I dont have to go GAS crazy on a tube amp (I was on the verge! Contemplative prayer stage  :wink:) i'm sticking to my evans amp, and hoping to chance upon another old yamaha or jc-120
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Re: The Kings of Solid State Tone
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2008, 12:30:43 AM »
^Thanks for this info Anton. I almost forgot about the Polytone - the legendary jazz amp.

Let's just hope that SS amps stay 'affordable' as ever.  :-)
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2008, 12:32:46 AM »
^Thanks for this info Anton. I almost forgot about the Polytone - the legendary jazz amp.

Let's just hope that SS amps stay 'affordable' as ever.  :-)
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Re: The Kings of Solid State Tone
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2008, 12:41:16 AM »
Guitarist ng Static X marshall mg head gamit. :lol:

Ewan ko lang sa JC-120 ha, but when I used my Seymour Duncan Twin Tube pedal, ang panget ng labas. And it was supposed to be the cleanest amp there is (AFAIK)... :?

But yeah it's freakin' loud! :lol:
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Re: The Kings of Solid State Tone
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2008, 07:32:16 AM »
I've tried a Lab Series amp. It sounds like a tube amp, especially when cranked!  So I don't think it is representative of 'solid state tone'.  ;-)

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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2008, 07:33:39 AM »
Ty Tabor used a solid state Gibson
when he was in King's X and
Dimabag Darrell used a solid state Randall
when he was in Pantera..

Dimebag uses SS Randall in Pantera and then switch to Krank amps(tube na 'to) in Damageplan..

Howard Davis a former chief designer of Electro-Harmonix have his article regarding TUBES VS SOLID-STATE!!!!

 http://howard.davis2.home.att.net/Tubesvs.SolidState.htm
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Re: The Kings of Solid State Tone
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2008, 08:33:20 AM »
Here are some folks that I know who use/used SS amps:

- Jonny Greenwood of Radiohead uses some cheap Fender amp for the dirty tones.
- Frank Zappa used a Pignose 7-100 on the majority of his 70's studio albums.
- Greg Ginn of Black Flag used SS amps and hated tube based amps because tube amps didn't sound aggressive enough for him.
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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2008, 01:06:06 PM »
Oo nga eh. 8-)

Teka baka, dahil sa headless guitar nya yun.hahaha :-D



Uy yung Carvin Fatboy hindi headless a. Pero ganun parin tunog niya.


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Re: The King of Solid State Tone
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2008, 01:25:49 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2008, 06:21:45 PM »
Oo nga pala, and the Pignose amp that Clapton used for his Layla sessions. Now that's legendary! :-)
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Re: The Kings of Solid State Tone
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2008, 06:49:54 PM »
Shadows fall guitarists Jon Donias and Matt Bachand use SS amps right?

no man...Jon Donais uses a Krankenstein(Dimebag Darrell signature) and Matt Bachand uses a Krank Revolution 1...and theyre both toobs... :-)
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