china copies?

[Kulas]

nope. pero may rule sa classifieds na bawal magbenta nun, kaso hindi naman lahat ng items nai-inspect ng mods or nung classifieds watch team.

yup tama si jeff. dapat maging familiar ka with the price ranges ng bentahan dito sa forum. hindi naman nagkakalayo eh, so more or less may idea ka kung peke yung guitar. eto sample, more or less ganito:

fender MIM standard - 15-25k
fender MIJ/CIJ - 20-35k
fender MIA - 30k minimum. (depende sa series)

gibson LP - 60-70k minimum.
gibson LP studio - 30-35k minimum.
gibson SG - 40k minimum.

epiphone MIK - 20-30k
epiphone MIC - 15-25k (can be higher or lower depende sa series)

ayan, hehe. so pag nakakita ka ng gibson LP for sale MIA daw na 25k lang, alam mo na, hehehe.

[xaeroblade]

@ TS

bro if you're playing in church, i think what should matter is the ministry than the implement. cmiiw. i don't think the congregation will be dissecting your tone or check for hiyaaaaaw. it's a service for your church, not a G3 concert

but of course nasa sa iyo na how you will see it through, using a guitar that's built essentially to be passed off as the real thing. 

+1 for the hiyaw 
And yeah since you're playing for the church its not like everyone there is a tone freak or that God would be pleased because your guitar has the HIYAAAAW and give you blessing because you have the hiyaw. For me your intention on why you play for the church are more important than the actual gear you use, unless the gear used sounds like crap.

Topic:
They're fine with me as long as the quality of the guitar is good, I've gotta admit there are some, if not rare, copies that can in a way match the original.

[tonwins11]

medyo OT: share ko lang experience ko, may nag SMS sakin asking for a trade for his musicman to my godin. He doesn't know the model of his MM but i had him describe it for me. Ang weird kase neck-through daw siya, wala akong makitang vintage model ng MM (vintage daw according to him). He got it daw as a gift from a foreigner pastor before leaving the country. He invited me to their church to see it in action. Since sa church naman ito i went confident agad.

So pagdating ko dun, i saw him playing the guitar then after a couple of songs he handed it to me.

* inspection mode (binilhan pa ako ng meryenda)

Alam mo yung feeling na gusto mo nalang mag disappear bigla  like at the back of your mind iniisip mo na sana di ka nalang tumuloy malamang your enjoying having a rest at home pa hahaha

The guitar happens to be an aria Pro TS decaled with Musicman logo (looks like this)

You bought it?

[Freak]

You bought it?

I declined the trade offer and humbly told him the truth. He can't believe what he found out about his guitar. I even showed him what im saying is true by making him look at the machineheads where the brand is inscribed. I pity the guy, mukhang super effort pa siya to cover the guitar with oil to make it look sleek 

[tonwins11]

I declined the trade offer and humbly told him the truth. He can't believe what he found out about his guitar. I even showed him what im saying is true by making him look at the machineheads where the brand is inscribed. I pity the guy, mukhang super effort pa siya to cover the guitar with oil to make it look sleek 

If I were in your place, I don't know what to do or alibi or maybe even tell the truth. Sa church pa talaga with matching miryenda! 

[tulo]

No to guitar. But for shoes,jeans,dress,watch I prefer chinese copies. Very cheap and better quality.

[jude.nash]

hhmmm..seems generally guys out here wouldnt prefer these china copies...and thanks for advising me the running prices for fenders and gibson...just out of curiosity..i tried browsing the ads here and

no offense to sellers.dean dimebag series running 10-12k bnew...are they legits?from my knowledge...they range at least 20k upare they legits? i really want one of those next to LP's...

again...mga sir,no offense to the sellers....how can i determine if they are legits and really bnew?

[jude.nash]

there are also posts at sulit.com running the same...but these guys from sulit never declare if they are legits or not...so..i assume that they are also copies...

mods no offense to sellers talga

[jude.nash]

also michael amott's sig...

[rowley75]

hhmmm..seems generally guys out here wouldnt prefer these china copies...and thanks for advising me the running prices for fenders and gibson...just out of curiosity..i tried browsing the ads here and

no offense to sellers.dean dimebag series running 10-12k bnew...are they legits?from my knowledge...they range at least 20k upare they legits? i really want one of those next to LP's...

again...mga sir,no offense to the sellers....how can i determine if they are legits and really bnew?

Actually, if it's legit china made deans(more of kung 2nd hand) it can range from 10k+.

No to guitar. But for shoes,jeans,dress,watch I prefer chinese copies. Very cheap and better quality.

I prefer legit to everything. I only buy legit stuff that i can afford.

[jude.nash]

but they claim it to be bnew...so are you saying they are copies???

[Allan_Reamillo]

I'm also curious about the Dean Dime and Razorback ML's and I've been wanting to buy one for a long time already. They are tempting at the prices they are sold for with some even including the combo soft/hard case. They also look the same as the originals with just different pick-ups (bridge pick-up with 12 pole pieces instead of the blade type like BL's found in Dean's website) but with the same Grover Tuners, Dime Traction Knobs and Floyd Rose Specials. Some guys I've talked to theorized that they are legit but didn't pass the QC of Dean that's why they are being sold cheap.

[graysolis]

china copies like lespaul and other guitars they are good and very closed to original, but I think you need to invest to buy good a pickups    just an opinion

[fizz450_03]

but they claim it to be bnew...so are you saying they are copies???

why not ask the sellers themselves? 

we can never tell for sure and often the best way is to go directly to the seller. all of my purchases here in Philmusic had been good, and sellers i contacted readily allowed me to inspect the goods...the seller of my now favorite guitar allowed me to visit his house late at night and test all i want before i actually plunked money on the stuff 

[jude.nash]

I'm also curious about the Dean Dime and Razorback ML's and I've been wanting to buy one for a long time already. They are tempting at the prices they are sold for with some even including the combo soft/hard case. They also look the same as the originals with just different pick-ups (bridge pick-up with 12 pole pieces instead of the blade type like BL's found in Dean's website) but with the same Grover Tuners, Dime Traction Knobs and Floyd Rose Specials. Some guys I've talked to theorized that they are legit but didn't pass the QC of Dean that's why they are being sold cheap.

any feedback on this guys? i also crave for dean dime razorback...i think the sellers should at least be right away informative about their stuff....seems it really creates a confusion...

[alvinratsim]

china copies like lespaul and other guitars they are good and very closed to original, but I think you need to invest to buy good a pickups    just an opinion

I dont think they are closed.. Does an original guitar really matters?

[jude.nash]

I dont think they are closed.. Does an original guitar really matters?

i do not only pertain to gibsons and fenders here..there are other brands being copied as well...but their long term use is what matter the most. thats why i solicit the help of those who might have tried them out personally

[guitarwiz02]

No to guitar. But for shoes,jeans,dress,watch I prefer chinese copies. Very cheap and better quality.

Better quality? Than the original?

[Gunslinger]

Better quality? Than the original?

lol

[jude.nash]

Better quality? Than the original?

hes not pertaining to guitars right? maybe that was based from experience..for me..kung di mo gagamitin maybe...
still,apparels are different when it comes to guitars

[guitarwiz02]

hes not pertaining to guitars right? maybe that was based from experience..for me..kung di mo gagamitin maybe...
still,apparels are different when it comes to guitars

Even so. It's still quite absurd to think that copies, imitations or fakes have better quality than their original counterparts. Think about it. Ignorance is bliss, as they say. But this is too much.

[gainsucker]

galing ng transition ng thread na to... 

[Gunslinger]

galing ng transition ng thread na to... 

Agree. lulz

[gainsucker]

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1016185/fake-chinese-electronics-perform-originals

[guitarwiz02]

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1016185/fake-chinese-electronics-perform-originals

Performance and durability are two different things of course. Tsaka nag-iiba talaga usapan pag dating sa mga add-ons. But I have yet to see a fake outperform the original.