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Title: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: dreddurius on March 24, 2014, 12:52:53 AM
Hinahanap ko bahista.
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: IncX on March 24, 2014, 01:16:04 AM
di ako drummer (bassist ako), pero particular talaga ako sa hi-hats at bass drum ... napapansin ko sa mga di gaanong magaling, wala silang paki sa bassline (especially sa syncopation). and for some reason di ko ma syncopate ang basslines ko sa hi-hat and/or kick nila.

ito yung clip sa isang fave drummer na naka-jam ko ... di gaanong tight jam namin (he was learning the songs) pero ang ganda ng kick drum. ganda ng syncopation with the basslines:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23291652/Paperview%20ORIGS_Rehearsals/paris%20day%203%20cant%20put%20me%20down%20bass%20and%20drums%20take%2002.mp3


at ito naman.... same song, different drummer ... yung kick drum hindi syncopated, straight sounding. sa snare galing syncopation nya (if you still call it that), hindi ko gaanong trip, hehe (di talaga ako mahilig sa snare fills and offs). he was also still learning the song:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23291652/Paperview%20ORIGS_Rehearsals/janex%20cant%20put%20me%20down%2011-07-13.mp3

still, magaling pa rin, pero na-miss ko yung kaya talaga yung syncopated hi-hats and/or kick drum


and finally, ito yung first drummer... ganda ng song learning habits, pero straight pumalo. no syncopation (almost like a drum machine). medyo off lang yung ibang parts sa recording, especially dun sa snare blasts, and yung pagpasok ng chorus, but you get the idea i am presenting:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23291652/Paperview%20ORIGS_Rehearsals/paperview%20-%20put%20me%20down%20guide%20wd%20drums.mp3

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feel ko level up ang drummer kung kaya nya lagyan ng syncopation ang palo, whether sa kick drum, snare, ride or hi-hat. he can hit the exact same drum line but make it feel different through syncopation
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 24, 2014, 05:01:09 AM
Dynamics and manipulation of each smaller subdivision of notes of sixteenth or triplet feel. :-D
Knows how to balance the mix in grooving and even he is doing syncopation stuff e napapagroove pa din niya. :mrgreen:
Hindi for the sake na mapasok Lahat ng licks or sa term Nung iba e gospel chops sa bawat bara.
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 25, 2014, 09:47:42 AM



OH WOW. NEW THREAD <3


Unang Level UP ng Drummer para sakin is pag marunong na siya mag Hihat Nuances and Proper Ghost Notes. aka, ingredients for a full groove.
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 25, 2014, 11:16:55 AM


OH WOW. NEW THREAD <3



Haha! Then it ends with two of us answering each other
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: red lights on March 25, 2014, 02:50:53 PM


may matandang nagsabi sakin na ang magaling na drummer daw eh kayang mag-16 beat ng lagpas isang oras  :lol:
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: Mapex on March 25, 2014, 06:09:16 PM
*inuutusan mo yung driver na bumili ng hamburger habang (malinis na) pumapalo  ng seven days ni sting..

*kumakanta ng Livin it Up habang siyempre pumapalo tulad ni Senyor :D



Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 25, 2014, 08:24:34 PM

may matandang nagsabi sakin na ang magaling na drummer daw eh kayang mag-16 beat ng lagpas isang oras  :lol:

Haha,pwede,pero Anu naman magagawa ng endurance part? Hehe,Kung masarap niya ng nagagawa yun ng one hour e di ok! Hehe
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: IncX on March 25, 2014, 09:47:57 PM

may matandang nagsabi sakin na ang magaling na drummer daw eh kayang mag-16 beat ng lagpas isang oras  :lol:

thats weird. i dont think youd be in a situation where you need to do 16 beat for 1 hour without rest.
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 26, 2014, 06:31:29 AM
thats weird. i dont think youd be in a situation where you need to do 16 beat for 1 hour without rest.

Didn't think if this one,but it makes sense.
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: peeves24 on March 26, 2014, 08:00:40 AM
thats weird. i dont think youd be in a situation where you need to do 16 beat for 1 hour without rest.

medley ng swing at disco songs kung showband -pwede hehehe
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: IncX on March 26, 2014, 08:40:41 AM
medley ng swing at disco songs kung showband -pwede hehehe

hahaha! fiesta sa barrio
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 26, 2014, 09:50:56 AM
hahaha! fiesta sa barrio
medley ng swing at disco songs kung showband -pwede hehehe


Yun din yung mga situations na naisip ko when I saw that post hahahaha! sakit sa kamay siguro nun hahahaha!
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: red lights on March 26, 2014, 03:02:13 PM


 :lol:  :lol: di ko din alam bakit yun ang sinabi sakin ng matandang yun (may band studio rehearsal sya). napa-isip tuloy ako kung mag-da drums pa ba ko  :lol:
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 26, 2014, 08:10:25 PM

 :lol:  :lol: di ko din alam bakit yun ang sinabi sakin ng matandang yun (may band studio rehearsal sya). napa-isip tuloy ako kung mag-da drums pa ba ko  :lol:

Baka idol niya drummer ng the dawn,hehe they call him 16 beat of the Philippines,hehe,yun lang at a Ginawa niya sa Lahat ng songs,hehe
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: musicianurse28 on March 27, 2014, 10:20:55 AM
Baka idol niya drummer ng the dawn,hehe they call him 16 beat of the Philippines,hehe,yun lang at a Ginawa niya sa Lahat ng songs,hehe

Hahaha! Naalala ko to! UST days pa lang naten napag-uusapan na yan. I did some research pa non, and yes most songs nga 16 beats sa Hi-hat ang ginagawa niya. Hehe

Back to topic:
I guess pag namaster mo na yung Great Hands of a Lifetime ni Tommy Igoe o kaya yung Secret Weapons of a Modern Drummer ni Jojo Mayer, maaaring nag level up ka na. Pwede...
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 27, 2014, 09:24:52 PM
Hahaha! Naalala ko to! UST days pa lang naten napag-uusapan na yan. I did some research pa non, and yes most songs nga 16 beats sa Hi-hat ang ginagawa niya. Hehe

Back to topic:
I guess pag namaster mo na yung Great Hands of a Lifetime ni Tommy Igoe o kaya yung Secret Weapons of a Modern Drummer ni Jojo Mayer, maaaring nag level up ka na. Pwede...

Applied versions ng technique na yan,hehe,pero for me the musicality of Benny greb among the new drummers is a good way to look at what I want now.hehe
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: maben_frost on March 28, 2014, 01:50:18 PM
Pakiramdam ko nag level-up na ako sa palo pag yung dating mga kanta na di ko kayang tugtugin ay narealize ko na kung pano gawin at nagagawa ko narin. tapos sasabihin ko ANG GALING KO!  :eek:


hahaha.

Happy weekend :D
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 28, 2014, 01:57:44 PM
Pakiramdam ko nag level-up na ako sa palo pag yung dating mga kanta na di ko kayang tugtugin ay narealize ko na kung pano gawin at nagagawa ko narin. tapos sasabihin ko ANG GALING KO!  :eek:


hahaha.

Happy weekend :D

hahaha actually ako pag may nakokopya akong fill or pattern na di ko magawa dati, feeling ko parang Megaman ako na nakakalearn ng new skill hahahaha

or parang sa DIABLO na i've met the requirements to learn the technique hahahaha!

#geekmode =))
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: Peter on March 29, 2014, 06:35:18 AM
Kapag nagagawa mo na tumugtog ng kantang ngayon mo lang narinig kasama ang bandang ngayon mo lang  din nakilala. At sakto ang mga palo mo na parang kabisado mo yung kanta at mga kasama mo.
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 29, 2014, 06:36:05 AM
hahaha actually ako pag may nakokopya akong fill or pattern na di ko magawa dati, feeling ko parang Megaman ako na nakakalearn ng new skill hahahaha

or parang sa DIABLO na i've met the requirements to learn the technique hahahaha!

#geekmode =))


Yup same here, eto pala pinakarealization ko!when I got the Rosanna shuffle!
Hehe,

To Ralph
#masidolkopadincolaiutakesakayweckl harhar :cool:
Title: Re: &quot;Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________&quot;
Post by: dreddurius on March 29, 2014, 09:37:20 AM
Dahil sa katamaran eh nag stagnate na ako malamang. Nakakapalo lang kasi pag kumpleto banda eh 😖
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: maben_frost on March 31, 2014, 07:25:14 AM

Yup same here, eto pala pinakarealization ko!when I got the Rosanna shuffle!
Hehe,

To Ralph
#masidolkopadincolaiutakesakayweckl harhar :cool:

pwede po paturo nung rosanna shuffle? di ko makuha eh. any tips how to start., hangang tata tug bush lang ako eh.
 :cute:
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 31, 2014, 09:44:35 AM
The best way is to learn double strokes efficiently,then learn the Swiss army triplet na rudiments,then learn the straight 16th note version of the beat to learn where the bass drums fall the. Learn the shuffle. :-D
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on March 31, 2014, 09:58:55 AM

Yup same here, eto pala pinakarealization ko!when I got the Rosanna shuffle!
Hehe,

To Ralph
#masidolkopadincolaiutakesakayweckl harhar :cool:

Hayyy rosanna shuffle hahahaha nung natutunan ko yan, gamit na gamit sakin yan hahahaha! pati sa mga kanta namin, gamit din yan! =))

#finefineperoamininmomasmagandaHHXkesaAcustom HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 31, 2014, 10:24:15 AM
Hayyy rosanna shuffle hahahaha nung natutunan ko yan, gamit na gamit sakin yan hahahaha! pati sa mga kanta namin, gamit din yan! =))

#finefineperoamininmomasmagandaHHXkesaAcustom HAHAHAHAHAHA

Hehe,you have to really play this to earn the shuffle plus the ghost notes efficiently.

#angmahallangtalaganghhxditoatwalamsyadongvariationskainisnasabianyanhuhuhu.
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: maben_frost on March 31, 2014, 01:51:20 PM
The best way is to learn double strokes efficiently,then learn the Swiss army triplet na rudiments,then learn the straight 16th note version of the beat to learn where the bass drums fall the. Learn the shuffle. :-D

ok. double strokes lang ako. check ko yang swiss army triplet. in a year siguro makukuha ko na to no? hehehe
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on March 31, 2014, 06:23:53 PM
ok. double strokes lang ako. check ko yang swiss army triplet. in a year siguro makukuha ko na to no? hehehe

Madali naman Siguro Makuha yan pag sinunod mo ng Mayans bro,and Tama ang practice,
Technically wise it's quite easy pero Kung pano mo papasarapin at dynamics ng shuffle yun ang mejo matagal
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: LUDWIG_LOUISE on March 31, 2014, 10:35:27 PM
Kuya Harugrugrug bka po pede ako makahingi na copy..
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: harugrugrug on April 01, 2014, 05:54:31 AM
Kuya Harugrugrug bka po pede ako makahingi na copy..

Pupunta naman ikaw dito Bahay paguwi mo di ba? Hehe. :eek:
Title: Re: "Pakiramdam mo nag level-up ka na sa palo pag _________"
Post by: LUDWIG_LOUISE on April 01, 2014, 06:27:57 AM
nka ready na nga yung external ko.ahihihihi...