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Offline daemonite

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Sikat = Pop = Baduy? Agree?
« on: August 01, 2007, 09:03:38 AM »
Naalala ko sabi sa akin ng producer namin nun sa isang drinking session....

Kung sikat ka, automatic pop (pop music= popular music) ka na, tapos baduy ka na kasi household name ka na. Ibig sabihin ultimo takatak boys tsaka longkatots alam ang lyrics mo.

Is this true nowadays?
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2007, 07:46:14 AM »
that's just the alcohol talking.  :lol:
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2007, 11:30:21 AM »
Pero if you observe it closely, may truth sa sinasabi nya.

kasi ganito yun....

ang ratio ng listeners sa radio - 90% baduy : 10% everything else

sa tv di ko alam kasi....
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2007, 01:26:45 PM »
kosa hindi naman siguro lahat baduy..  karamihan lang! :-D


pero sabi soguro nila "eh ano kung baduy!! sikat naman kami"

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2007, 01:46:45 PM »
dagdagan mo kosa, "eh ano kung baduy kami, sikat naman at yumayaman!" hehehehe :evil:
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2007, 07:16:42 PM »
Pero if you observe it closely, may truth sa sinasabi nya.

kasi ganito yun....

ang ratio ng listeners sa radio - 90% baduy : 10% everything else

sa tv di ko alam kasi....
whether a thing is cool or not will always be relative to the person judging it.

i know where you're getting at. i myself dislike listening to mainstream radio kasi sabi mo nga, baduy. admittedly, medyo elitista ang dating sa ibang tao. but it can never become anything beyond personal preference, because, acccording to your numbers, 90% will always claim you're wrong. lol!
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2007, 07:53:22 PM »
True, true. Pero my point was, what if kapag andun na tayo sa situation na ganon? Papayag ba tayo? Kasi for us, being a pop alternative band is a difficult task, we try to make songs na masa pero hindi masyado baduy, admittedly, it is, a little para lang masakyan ng tao.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2007, 09:06:38 PM »
madami din artist isacrifice ang artistic side para maging commercial kasi madami ngayon mga alternative ay di masakyan ng karaniwang tao. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2007, 12:06:30 AM »

not true at all.

i love listening to Dashboard Confessional. they are pop as pop can be.

i dont listen to those 6 cycle mind guys though... i think theres a whole lot of them who sound the same...

but then again, i think a lot of unsigned bands suck too. music does not suck just because its pop. and music isnt cool just because its hard to access and underground.

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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2007, 03:30:58 AM »
society suggests what "baduy" is. it's up to you to classify yourself as baduy or not.

i listen to backstreet boys. loud enough for everyone to hear. heh. the fact that people call them "baduy" is cool in itself. hehehe.

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2007, 07:26:29 AM »
society suggests what "baduy" is. it's up to you to classify yourself as baduy or not.

i listen to backstreet boys. loud enough for everyone to hear. heh. the fact that people call them "baduy" is cool in itself. hehehe.

 i feel ya dude, nasabihan na nga kami na tumutugtog ng nursery rhyme nung kinover namin ang "Girlfriend" ni Avril Lavigne.

It's getting so hard to please people kasi when they think they know a lot pero ni katiting wala naman.

Ang nabuo kasi sa aking meaning ng pop is when you can make the people groove with your songs, ok ka na pop.

Pero thinking, ilan kaya ang aamin sa atin na we listen to boybands hehehe.... ako nakikinig ako ng N*Sync tsaka 98 degrees.

Pop is such a diverse word mahirap i-explain kung ano talaga ang coverage nito....
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2007, 11:23:57 AM »
dagdagan mo kosa, "eh ano kung baduy kami, sikat naman at yumayaman!" hehehehe :evil:

ay oo nga ... :-D



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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2007, 11:26:16 AM »
madami din artist isacrifice ang artistic side para maging commercial kasi madami ngayon mga alternative ay di masakyan ng karaniwang tao. 


siguro para magustuhan ng karamihang tao.. eh yung mga tagalog alternative..

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2007, 11:29:09 AM »
ang hirap talaga pag inaalala iniisip ng ibang tao tungkol sa yo. hehehehe.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2007, 11:58:26 AM »
Ganito kasi concept ko sa music sir....

We play our music para ma-express natin sa mundo yung asa isip at damdamin natin. Kahit na cover pa ito. It is our option kung pakikinggan natin comments ng tao. Kasi depende naman sa genre kung comments ang pinag-uusapan, pero here's a question.... don't you feel complete as a musician kung ang ginagawa niyo lang tugtog ng tugtog without knowing if your audience really likes it? Sa akin, i know there is something wrong with an artist by their audience, either walang gana ang artist na tumutugtog, walang paki-alam ang artist, or hindi talaga sya artist, tugtog lang ng tugtog.

Maybe you've been playing longer than me, (i mean i only played like 10 years), pero sa 10 taon na pinagtugtog ko, kung hindi ko naging goal ang pasayahin ang audience sa music ko, siguro hindi ako tatagal, mga 1 year lang ako tutugtog.... my audience is what drives me to play more, if i can see that they can feel our band's music, i can call it a successful gig.... and it's our audience that inspires us to make more music kahit na may family na kami and may work na kami. That's a part of the life of a pop band....
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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2007, 02:21:00 PM »
nope.

during the 60s, sikat=pop=The Beatles, Beach Boys.

dare anyone call the Beatles and the Beach Boys baduy? These were groundbreaking bands.

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« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2007, 06:17:41 AM »
That is because we didn't realize that we went with the fad back then.

Then if you say the "The Beatles" are sikat but not baduy, then April Boy Regino is sikat and not baduy also. It's just a matter of choice for us listeners. But all of the artists we hear are groundbreaking dahil they have their own unique style, kaya nga sila umaangat as a national, international artist dahil sa uniqueness nila.
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2007, 10:33:39 AM »
That is because we didn't realize that we went with the fad back then.

Then if you say the "The Beatles" are sikat but not baduy, then April Boy Regino is sikat and not baduy also. It's just a matter of choice for us listeners. But all of the artists we hear are groundbreaking dahil they have their own unique style, kaya nga sila umaangat as a national, international artist dahil sa uniqueness nila.
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« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2007, 12:02:44 PM »
nope.

during the 60s, sikat=pop=The Beatles, Beach Boys.

dare anyone call the Beatles and the Beach Boys baduy? These were groundbreaking bands.

as a kid, i use to think the beatles suck and hip hop was the best *lol* now i think the beatles are a lot better than hip hop - thats just a personal opinion.

as for the beach boys, they are catchy... but really, i think they are baduy... eventhough i sing along to them when they are on the radio, and i love that episode where they guested on Tim Allen's Home Improvement.

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« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2007, 12:14:39 PM »
depende rin sayo yun kung anong genre ang tingin mong baduy or astig eh. if you're a hiphop guy, eh di syempre hiphop or r&b yung trip mo. or kung conyo, pogi rock madalas..  :lol:

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« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2007, 03:49:46 PM »
it all depends on the artist. Siguro nga, the earlier hits of the Beatles and Beach Boys like "She Loves You" or "California Girls" are 'baduy' for some people. Hell, the early Beatles were the first "boyband" -- pogi silang lahat.

But take their other songs like "Strawberry Fields" and "Good Vibrations" and you can't say that these are 'baduy' - these are real musical masterpieces. And yet these songs were also sikat during their time, hence they are also pop.

In comparison, can you imagine April Boy Regino ever making something like "Strawberry Fields"? I think not. Baduy talaga siya kahit pano mo tingnan. :mrgreen:

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« Reply #21 on: August 18, 2007, 03:59:54 PM »
Naalala ko sabi sa akin ng producer namin nun sa isang drinking session....

Kung sikat ka, automatic pop (pop music= popular music) ka na, tapos baduy ka na kasi household name ka na. Ibig sabihin ultimo takatak boys tsaka longkatots alam ang lyrics mo.

Is this true nowadays?

di naman siguro but everyone is entitled to own opinion. kanya-kanyang pananaw lang yan :-)
basta sa kin, pag nagustuhan ko ang isang kanta o banda, ayos lang :wink:

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« Reply #22 on: August 18, 2007, 08:38:27 PM »
The beatles, sobrang pop dati. pero di sila nalaos agad. :-D actually, di sila laos. kaya tinutugtog parin hanggang ngayon yung mga songs nila sa radio. and kaya may bloomfields. hehe.

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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2007, 02:12:30 AM »
Walang baduy na musiko. Meron lang baduy na pagtugtog.

In fact....

Maaari din yatang sabihing walang baduy na kahit ano. Meron lang mga tugtuging hindi natin trip. Kanya-kanyang trip lang.

Malaking bagay ang paggalang ng kani-kaniyang trip.

Respeto lang.

Pananaw lang po.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2007, 10:44:12 PM »
^yes I agree.

The listeners determine what's baduy and what's not for them. Eh kung trip nila makinig ng mga 60's rock, that's cool for them.. while others might find it weird.

Most bands today are manufactured, they all sounds the same. Para silang magkakamag- anak hehe  :-D
Mas ok if you have your original style of music para hindi masabihan ng baduy. Sometimes they follow the trend para lang maging "in" or they follow yung mga kabaduyan na uso ngaun hehe. For me, I appreciate those bands who make their own style and do their original things.