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Yes my Oi brothers! We have our thread!

Throw it in! This thread is Dedicated to the Punnk Genre, weather it's Pop, Old-School Oi, Modern, Techno, Hardcore, Anarchy etc.. We can Discuss sound, pedals, band/artist review, fashion and history here!!

I'll try to post what i have posted in the thread..

as Billie Joe Armstrong said:

"There are a lot of bands who claim to be punk and they only play the music, they have no clue what it's all about. It's not about popularity and all that crap."


That's why we have this thread..
 
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« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2009, 09:50:04 AM »
my posts from: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,149842.25.html
   



i agree with yearling.. rekta is the best!

but when gig amps suck, i use:

either my relic strat (sss kasi lead namin naka SG na, para hiwalay ang sound) or my H-H strat (kun kinakailangan).

Korg PitchBlack
GTX NG-100 (Noise Gate)
BOSS SD-1 (Stacked MOD) - for simple OD/semi-Clean rhythms..
HardWire TL-2 (Metal Distortion) - versatile kasi, not nasal, from classic rock to metal ang versatility.
Boston FL-100 (Flanger) - i usually use for bridge parts of songs.
MimicMAn (Delay) - for extra body of slow songs or just to add color to breaks.

by the way, Pop-Punk pala banda namin kaya mejo hindi hardcore.. kulitan lang, hehehehe..  :-D




But when it comes to guitars. The best thing to use is:

LP, SG, GAX30s

You must be using humbuckers so that you can get that palm mute thing going on.


sorry man, i beg to diasagree... hindi lang humbuckers.. i can till 'palm-mute' kahit single coils. in my 27years of holding a guitar, i could be wrong..

maybe Johnny Ramone too...







to each of his own.. different stroke for different folks.
just don't put it in general.



pag punks siguro mas maganda tunog na raw wala ng effects, straight amp na lang tapos mo-hawk hair + leather jacket + spikes

tapos cheap ass guitar gamitin mo para pagkatapos ng set ihampas mo sa semento wasakin mo..tapos pagwasak na gitara dampot sa bulsa yosi at sindihan bigla.

yan Hardcore Punk Rock from Great Britain! Anarchy in the UK!!!!


kaso.. Pop Punk lang kami eh.. cheesey..



me too. i'm enjoying this thread. i'm a Bluesman at hear but i play pop punk for fun and i just love the Energy. mejo i'm too old to play hardcore punk eh, kaya pop punk nalang para masaya..

i remember way back in the 80's.. mmm.. 1986 to be exact.. i was in third year high school and the punk scene was so ok! i mean, genres and fashion was something to look forward to everyday! punks were usually at SM north edsa, wearing creepers, ripped jeans, denim/leather jackets, ala pang DM's nun, kaya combat boots pa! we used either Beer or Egg white or spray-net to keep those maw-hawk or spikes up! chains and leathers were present and the shades na parang 'head-band'! whoah.. time warp. and the famous graffiti or vandals we do is usually the big 'A' with a circle around and a matching 'Anarchy in the UK' or 'Hardcore'.. we listen to cassettes then or to XB102. hehehe, dead ends, dead hungy, twisted red cross, GI & the Idiots, betrayed, Urban Bandits etc..

hehehehe.. those were the early days.. sample pics how my generation looks like before?  check these out..












hehehe.. yep, tanders na me..  :wink:
  


i just wanna share:

Have you ever wondered what the Philippine Hardcore scene looks like in the 80s? Well, there is this great website that have detailed what was going on here in MANILA in the aspect of HARDCORE as we know. This KABAYAN of mine have written what was really happening in terms of the Underground scene here in the Philippines that would mezmerized you enough to reflect on it. I remember back in High School when there was this controversy regarding Satanic Groups that were spreading around bad vibes. One group in my vicinity was named "HAVOC" and this created rumors and deception back then. YUP!! I know someone who was even called on the Principal Office just to shed light on the HAVOC's matter. I may say it was one controversial issue indeed especially for Catholic Schools. Good thing it was resolved. Hmmmp!! There's was even a joke that time that "HAVOC" means HABA BUHOK (Long Hair in English). He He He!! So let's deviate for a while about NEW WAVE and let's travel back again to the late 70s and 80s but this time with a "KISS ASS" attitude". So for my blogpost today I decided to share this article to you guys from that very comprehensive website I'm talking about. PROUD TO BE PINOY!!

by: DR. STIRRING RHOD

http://docmuzic.blogspot.com/2008/10/philippines-80s-hardcore.html



or THE PUNK ROCK GUITAR THREAD.

Orignally the word "Punk" was a name of a magazine that was in circulation during the mid 70's that caters to the crowd of a bar in New York named CBGB (“Country Bluegrass Blues”). where the slits, patty smith, blonde, the ramones, television, MC5, the new york dolls, velvet underground etc. performs and were regulars. makakatugtog ka lang dun pag may originals ka, parang Dredd, now with the artists playing, sila lang ang usually laman ng "Punk Magazine", then eventually, when performing, the bar goers/followers call them "Punk Rock".

at first they dont like to be called as such. eventually, it is.. share ko lang.







notice the backgound of the Ramones.. hehehehe..



as much as i like the two bands, kids these days also pretty much think it's green day and blink 182 that started the punk movement, lol.

i read somewhere that black flag reached the peak of it's popularity with dez as their vocalist. don't quote me on that though

hehehe, korek! m thankful though for the two bands (Blink 182 & Green Day) for bringing it out, it's the fusion of the generations. old school sound + modern feel + modern/classic look + fun + attitude (a little lighter though) = their POP PUNK. now, specially blink, they brought out humor to the genre. although it's still popular music & not as pure as "Punk Rock", the roots are still in there.. and also, hehehe, another excuse for me (for my age) not to go Harcore.. hheheehhehe..

to add injury, kids these days often refer to as EMO as post-Punk or hardcore..  beg to disagree.. it's more like Gothic, parang when Souxie sounded punkish in the early days but became deep and gothic later.. oh well..

btw, you're right, Dez Cadena was the Vox during it's mid peak of their popularity.. and later on turned to guitar because of his worn-out-voice (wala kasing training daw..) then later on Rollins step on board.. mga 1981 siguro un.. hehe, i was 11 then..


anyway, baka ma-OT: pedal set up ko is :

BOSS SD-1 (stacked mod) > HardWire TL-2 > BE FL-100 > MimicMan Delay

but sometimes the TL-2 does the job alone! hehehehehe..
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« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 09:51:47 AM »
guys,
pag na ayos na ang dumaang trahedya, mag EB tayo.. let's try to organize a Pop-Punk Party. kahit pa mga Hardcore peeps nag pumunta, basta walang gulo, hahahaha.. wattayasay? let's have bands playing, wear your Punk-iest outfit and make it a celebrated Event..

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« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 09:57:50 AM »
if greenday had mohawks and spikes they are a certified punk id say

have you ever heard of the band GOOD CHARLOTTE? they have mohawks in their first album, quite a nice band to listen to as well. also RANCID..those appeared in the 90's

but regarding EMO i dont like EMO either..


RANCID is awesome! Rancid is Rancid man!! ayus!! hehehehe..

i dont mean to offend but i find Good Charlotte and Sum 41 kinda 'posero' or parang their using the genre to be labeled as 'cool'.. sorry ha.. no ofense..

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« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 10:07:30 AM »
the. candy. snatchers.


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« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 10:24:01 AM »
hehehe, korek! m thankful though for the two bands (Blink 182 & Green Day) for bringing it out, it's the fusion of the generations. old school sound + modern feel + modern/classic look + fun + attitude (a little lighter though) = their POP PUNK. now, specially blink, they brought out humor to the genre. although it's still popular music & not as pure as "Punk Rock", the roots are still in there.. and also, hehehe, another excuse for me (for my age) not to go Harcore.. hheheehhehe..


yes yes yes.
i must say in my age/generation this 2 bands were the biggest influence in musicality and perhaps attitude and my lifestyle.
especially blink 182. gad! blink 182 is the soundtrack of my youth.

but as much as i like this band.
i also embraced their influence.
like blink's biggest influence were bands like bad religion,descendents,cure etc.
more on suburban punk/so-cal type things. execpt the cure at 80's they are at the peak were people know them as goth.

anyways. speaking of bad religion and descendents
even tho' i wasnt born yet at there peak of success. (but darn it i wish i was).
im inspired by the guitar playing of brian baker!
lahat ng kanta nila nsa on-the-go ko sa ipod
since i then. haha


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« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 10:49:11 AM »

RANCID is awesome! Rancid is Rancid man!! ayus!! hehehehe..

i dont mean to offend but i find Good Charlotte and Sum 41 kinda 'posero' or parang their using the genre to be labeled as 'cool'.. sorry ha.. no ofense..

RANCID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have the ...And Out Come The Wolves, Life Wont Wait and Indestructible CDs.. :) one of the best bands for me.. :) pioneers ika nga.. hahaha! haven't heard their newest album yet..
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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 01:32:56 PM »
RANCID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have the ...And Out Come The Wolves, Life Wont Wait and Indestructible CDs.. :) one of the best bands for me.. :) pioneers ika nga.. hahaha! haven't heard their newest album yet..


ayos sir! ganda latest album nla. let the dominoes fall. ngorder ako sa net. sulit.
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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 01:54:41 PM »
i also have the live performance nung 2003 sa nottingham.. if you guys want burn ko kayo..

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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 01:57:37 PM »
panksnatded xD

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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 02:32:44 PM »
Woooohoooooo! sa wakas may tahanan na rin ang nga 3 chord guitarists (na hindi Blues men lol)! :-D


ayos sir! ganda latest album nla. let the dominoes fall. ngorder ako sa net. sulit.

Parang biglang tanda ang itsura ni Tim Armstrong at Lars sa mga photos nila sa mga mags naninibago lang ako.

i also have the live performance nung 2003 sa nottingham.. if you guys want burn ko kayo..

UK based ka dude?


My favorite punk guitarist is Doyle 'The Murderer' Wolfgang Von Frankenstein, 6'4" of undead muscle, try saying he sucks to his face.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 02:53:49 PM »
I'll be supporting this thread. :evil:

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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 03:13:45 PM »
Back in the early 80's I have been listening to a lot of U.K. Subs, The Destructors, The Exploited, Abrasive Wheels, The Vandals, Black Flag, etc. Wish that I've kept, at least, the cassette jackets for posterity.
 
Reading the bands you guys mentioned in your posts made me really feel so old.  :lol:

Recommended songs: U.K. Subs' "Police State" and The Exploited's "Maggie".

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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 03:45:32 PM »
hi guys,
well i use Mosrite guitar same brand as johnny ramone used to use. i like the sound of it and it feels comfortable when i palm mute..but it's really up to the player and what sound he likes...here's my Mosrite.late 60s.

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 05:55:10 PM »
You don't have to be that old to appreciate Wuds, Dead Ends, Betrayed, Biosparks, Urban  Bandits, George Imbecile and the Idiots, I.o.V and more. We once interviewed Chikoy Pura of the Jerks and he told thrilling stories of how it was back in the old days. The culture, language, profanity, and all of the gritty things I could think of happened then and there. It was so kick ass.





and yeah, punks not dead, man. It's still very much alive. Kicking and screaming.  :evil:
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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2009, 08:13:59 PM »
Woooohoooooo! sa wakas may tahanan na rin ang nga 3 chord guitarists (na hindi Blues men lol)! :-D

Parang biglang tanda ang itsura ni Tim Armstrong at Lars sa mga photos nila sa mga mags naninibago lang ako.

UK based ka dude?


My favorite punk guitarist is Doyle 'The Murderer' Wolfgang Von Frankenstein, 6'4" of undead muscle, try saying he sucks to his face.

lol, it'd be like a UFC match if Doyle and Henry Rollins ever fought each other.  :lol:

i love the gretsch tim armstrong uses live. right-handed guitar turned left handed and full of dents and scratches.

smartkat, where does one go to buy local punk CD's/casettes? usually it's a hit and miss at their gigs, i missed GI and the Idiots at Ten02 last weekend ):

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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2009, 09:02:32 PM »
Buhay pa ba yung bilihan sa Recto?
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2009, 09:13:47 PM »
Buhay pa ba yung bilihan sa Recto?

haha yes sir nagiisa na lang yung tindahan doon na nagmamahal sa genre natin, cartimar. haha makikita mo agad yun kasi standout siya haha di kagaya nung mga ibang tindahan na puro emo stuff ewwww haha
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2009, 09:48:36 PM »
Greg Ginn!!!!  :evil:

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« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2009, 01:32:18 AM »
Greg Ginn!!!!  :evil:

i'd kill for a Dan Armstrong Plexiglass guitar like his.

someone stole his original one while they were touring though, lol

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« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2009, 01:43:25 PM »
You don't have to be that old to appreciate Wuds, Dead Ends, Betrayed, Biosparks, Urban  Bandits, George Imbecile and the Idiots, I.o.V and more. We once interviewed Chikoy Pura of the Jerks and he told thrilling stories of how it was back in the old days. The culture, language, profanity, and all of the gritty things I could think of happened then and there. It was so kick ass.





and yeah, punks not dead, man. It's still very much alive. Kicking and screaming.  :evil:

i still remember Tito Chikoy coming to our house before or after their gigs to grab some booze with my dad at around the early 90's wearing 8 Hole DMs... :) asking him, 'hindi po ba masakit sa paa magsoot po ng boots? mas masarap po mag rubber shoes eh'.. he then laughs and tells me 'hijo, marami ka pang dapat malaman.." :) after a few years, i stopped investing on rubber shoes and start saving up on 8hole DMs... hahahahaha!
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« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2009, 04:18:49 PM »
i still remember Tito Chikoy coming to our house before or after their gigs to grab some booze with my dad at around the early 90's wearing 8 Hole DMs... :) asking him, 'hindi po ba masakit sa paa magsoot po ng boots? mas masarap po mag rubber shoes eh'.. he then laughs and tells me 'hijo, marami ka pang dapat malaman.." :) after a few years, i stopped investing on rubber shoes and start saving up on 8hole DMs... hahahahaha!

hahahahaa..

nung 1990, when the DM's was a hit to some (at wala pang DM stores dito nun) i had 2 pairs from abroad, i asked a flight steward to buy me one.. and believe me, i wore them everyday for years and it feels great (i heard kasi na therapeutical shoes daw un eh)! until nag-hugis barko and na-bugbug na ung parehong 8-holes ko bago pa DM's nagkastores dito and i had to give them away.. hehehehe..

now, wala ako mahagilap na size ko sa mga local stores! wahhhh...

how miss 'em...



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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2009, 04:48:21 PM »
hahahahaa..

nung 1990, when the DM's was a hit to some (at wala pang DM stores dito nun) i had 2 pairs from abroad, i asked a flight steward to buy me one.. and believe me, i wore them everyday for years and it feels great (i heard kasi na therapeutical shoes daw un eh)! until nag-hugis barko and na-bugbug na ung parehong 8-holes ko bago pa DM's nagkastores dito and i had to give them away.. hehehehe..

now, wala ako mahagilap na size ko sa mga local stores! wahhhh...

how miss 'em...




ako rin po sir! wala narin po akong makitang size ko po dito.. :( i lost my DM's when i bought it to the province.. my relatives there thought it was an ordinary ROTC boot so they gave it away.. :(
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2009, 04:51:31 PM »
hindi ko alam kung tama yung nabasa ko dati.. kapag punks daw, vegetarian?
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