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The Musician Forums => Music Technology & Pro Audio => Topic started by: chinitajen on January 07, 2006, 03:44:47 PM
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Guys, can you help me what software are suits for home studio recording. Ok n b ung Sound Foundry? Acid? Sa Cakewalk ano b dapat? Alin b ok d2?
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Sonar Studio Edition or Sonar Home Studio. Sometimes kung bumili ka ng soundcard, may kasamang lite editions ng sonar o cubase.
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PC:
1) Cakewalk Sonar 5.
2) M-Powered Protools 7.
MAC:
1) Protools.
2) Pro Audio Logic
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Pro Tools RTAS is available in PC as well.
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Kristal Audio Engine (http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/) and Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) are both freeware if you want to get 'feet wet' with audio recording.
PT is nice but works best when paired with Digi or M-Audio hardware. IMO, PT is way too expensive for the average home recordist.
There's also Garageband for the Mac... Logic is now known as Apple Logic. Then there's Digital Performer, also for the Mac.
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oks. dami pala. try ko kung anu meron n mabili sa mga binigay nyo sakin. tnx bro! :wink:
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Lumaki kasi ako sa Cooledit Pro. Tapos nabili sila ng Adobe, naging Adobe Audition. Madali gamitin, marami pang mga onboard effects. Up to 64 stereo tracks. Yun nga lang, pag mahina ang specs ng comp mo, magla-lag yung mga tracks pagdating sa dulo hindi na sabay. Dapat 2.0 Ghz or higher, 256 MB or better comp mo. Add mo na din disenteng soundcard, at least SB Vibra. Wag yung mga tig 300 na CMI soundcard :D
Eto dude, sa bahay lang namin ginawa to (with all the [gooey brown stuff] concrete-wall acoustics and cheap mikes and Adobe Audition).
http://www.freewebs.com/emogeeks/emoradio.htm
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PC:
1) Cakewalk Sonar 5.
2) M-Powered Protools 7.
MAC:
1) Protools.
2) Pro Audio Logic
..alam ko meron nang 5 ang Sonar, pero wala pa s'ya sa <cough> paborito kong tindahan.. so dun muna ko sa 4, ayos din naman..ü
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meron na rin bang drum loops sa CW sonar 4 or 5?
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meron na rin bang drum loops sa CW sonar 4 or 5?
Sonar can accept acid loops and will vary the loop tempo according to project tempo. The full copies (as in legal) of Sonar Producer Edition come with an additional DVD containing audio loops and midi grooves. The cracked versions do not contain these loops because of the space these wavs will occupy.
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Mga peepz... kelangan ba nka-P4 processor mo for a good and decent home recording? Ok lng ba kung P3 or any other processors? Question lng po... =)
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shredmaster26, the faster your pc the better. p3? perhps it's possible to use a P3 pc with older software. sa experience ko sa P4 2.8GHz with 2 GB RAM, hindi nito kaya ang maraming plug in's all at the same time, but that's mixing. recording is a cinch. dadating at dadating ka sa point na magmimix ka so you still need a powerful pc for that. or else you can just bounce tracks one by one, if you're not under time pressure.
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Thanks sa reply Starfugger... =) Aside from P4, what other processors ba available sa market na cheap lng pero sulit sa bilis? =)
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AMD. Get a good mobo, preferably 939 based para future proof for a few years. Don't go for K7 and 754 architectures kc those processors have been discontinued. Preferably, look for chipsets based on Uli technology. Cheap and compatible with most cards - some Uli chipsets accept AGP and PCIe video cards, Asrock is a good choice as long as 939 ung preferred processor.
If you want to stay Intel, mobos based on either the 865 or 955x chipset are recommended. Try to choose mobos that can accept 775 cpu's; better if they can accept dual core processors.
You are free to choose mobos that accept 754-pin (AMD) and 478-pin (Intel) processors, but remember that production lines have been stopped on these processors so if you plan to upgrade, there isn't any. Add to that possible problems with ram and peripheral cards because of non-existent support.
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Nakita ko na why your PC's require so much firepower and why I got away with a very basic setup.
On Adobe Audition, the plug-ins are not real time. So you lay down the track, apply the plug-in/effect, wait til it finishes, then listen to it if you like what it does. If you don't, you'll have to undo, adjust the parameters, re-apply, ad infinitum until you're happy(or frustrated, or tired, or *pwede na nga yan!!!*). Much more tedious and time-consuming, nowhere near pro stuff, but then again, you get away with much more basic hardware. :D
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So true. But you lose on real-time mixing decisions. Actually, Audition is somewhat real-time; what I don't like about it is how it doesn't reflect automation properly. I've had discussions with some folks in other (non philmusic) forums about Audition's automation features and for me, it fails the vst automation test - try to rt-click on a clip and try to assign any vst parameter to be automated.
BAMF, it's different when you twist the knob and hear the effects kaagad, you easily make mixing decisions without having to go back endlessly saying "what if I made the reverb -1db lighter..." or something like that - positive feedback, ika nga. It's a real time saver, and one of the reasons why I chose Cubase. This is not a plug for Steinberg - I have both Sonar and Cubase and I can compare both; I personally like mixing audio in Cubase more than in Sonar. I've used Audition/Cool Edit in the past in other studios, it's quick for banging together a track. But if you want mixing flexiblity, it's Cubase/Nuendo first, Sonar 2nd (Pro Tools would probably be first but I can't afford neither software nor hardware).
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Or maybe it would be great for a "bare knuckles" approach, like you get all the sounds you want as close as possible to what you want without post-processing (like your pedal reverb and amp and distortion and karaoke type mic preamp with echo box all set to your liking) then put them on the tracks.
Like...a fostex 4-track recorder, only a little more sophisticated and with more tracks :D
Eto ser...looks like the demon uploaded our entire EP on soundclick.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=504649
Please comment. Demo quality OK I guess. The only thing we weren't happy about was the "backwash" of the cymbals brought about by the poor acoustics of the room we recorded in. Sabi ni Hazel "ok naman" but I think she's being too polite :D , I mean, an engineer with an ear such as hers might have bled...:D. Pero kaw ser KitC, considering the very basic setup...what do you think ?
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hey BAMF. saw the pix.
the demo's are ok naman relative to the demo's we made at home back in 1997 when we didnt have any recording equipment other than cheap mics and a cassette recorder. i remember making those kind of demos with my band back in 1998 where we used 2 or 3 mics (and i don't remember how we were able to route all those signals onto cassette tape. they were really really bad. everything was just a wash of unintelligible muck. thanks to software we are now able to improve our demo's kahit sa bahay lang. no free lunch though. kaya signal "chain" ang tawag sakanya. even if we have access to amazing software, we still need good mics and good pre's for quality recording.
para sa akin there are 2 kinds of demo's. ones that are like yours, that simply outline the arrangement of the song, giving the listener a basic idea of the melody, feel, and instrumentation of a song. these demos are usually for study purposes and the like (the type you hand out to a new band mate or to an arranger). the other kind of demo would be the kind that goes beyond just outlining the basic components of a song, the kind that can be a pleasure to listen to again and again. this is the kind of demo we usually make when we want to submit a song to a record company, or sell our work independently.
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Please comment. Demo quality OK I guess. The only thing we weren't happy about was the "backwash" of the cymbals brought about by the poor acoustics of the room we recorded in. Sabi ni Hazel "ok naman" but I think she's being too polite :D , I mean, an engineer with an ear such as hers might have bled...:D. Pero kaw ser KitC, considering the very basic setup...what do you think ?
Check ur PM.
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hey BAMF. saw the pix.
To all concerned, mas maganda si Hazel nang hindi hamak kesa yung mahaba ang buhok na nakaupo sa mixing console sa website pics namin hahehehe nyuk nyuk nyuk. Buti na yung malinaw.
Tnx for the clarification. Indeed we are in the quest for much better aural quality, that's why we walked into your wonderful kitchen :D
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Check out Ableton Live 5. It's a decent VSTi host and the license works for both Mac and PC.
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