Help. Acoustic guitar issue.

[paul_sabarez10]

Meron akong Takamine D Series na acoustic guitar for more than 5 years na din to, may question lang ako hindi ko kasi alam kung issue ba to or natural lang talaga kasi based sa research ko hindi ata talaga.
Dati kasi mababa lang ang action ng guitar ko tapos biglang tumaas kaya pinaset-up ko, pinababa yung saddles at pina-adjust lahat para bumaba yung action at na-ayos naman. Then after ilang years ulit tumaas nanaman at hindi na talaga kaya ibaba through truss rod or other ways then nag-research ako at nalaman ko na dapat daw totally flat ang top ng acoustic guitar according to the forums. So sinukat ko through flat bar at ayon hindi flat, nagseesaw yung flat bar sa body bandang bridge at nung sinipat ko umalsa nga yung wood. At tingin ko yun ang cause ng mataas na action.

Question:
1. Talaga bang dapat flat ang lahat ng top body ng acoustic guitar or normal lang yung medyo umalsa yung kahoy? (Kasi kanina kakagaling ko lang sa music source at may bibebenta silang james neligan na acoustic guitar na sobrang lobo yung body pero hindi masyadong mataas yung action, at sabi nung mga tao dun normal lang daw yun.) ano ba talaga yung totoo?
2. If ever hindi normal yun at sira talaga yun, ma-aayos pa ba yun?

Maraming salamat sa inyong opinion at sagot sa tanong.

As requested eto yung picture:



As you can see hindi lapat yung steel ruler sa top.

[creationz]

Can you post pix

[royc]

Ano ang gauge ng strings mo? Possible na kailangang ireglue ang bracing sa loob.  Normal na lumobo yan pero masyadong maiksi ang 5 years.

Dalhin mo sa ibang luthier. Try arie, micsis, or stringman. Sa FB page ni stringman meron syang pinakita dun kung pano nya inayos ang bulging belly ng gitara ng isang client. May instruction din sya kung ano ang tamang pagkabit ng strings to prevent ang bulging.

https://www.facebook.com/StringmansGuitarShop

Check mo nov 3, nov 10 at dec 13, 2013 posts nya

[siore]

Eventually acoustic guitars develop that belly.  Don't sweat it.  The typical remedy is to lower the bridge as your tech has done. Kung wala nang ibababa, neck re-set na yan or steam the top to bring back a slightly flatter more acceptable bulge.

Although I should say, some guitars exhibit these symptoms earlier, some later in their lifetime.

[paul_sabarez10]

So mga sir dapat lahat ng acoustic guitar flat dapat ang top?
At hindi totoo yung sinasabi ng mga tao sa music source na normal lang daw yung brandnew guitar na binebenta nila na lobo yung body?

Salamat sa replies.

[royc]

So mga sir dapat lahat ng acoustic guitar flat dapat ang top?
At hindi totoo yung sinasabi ng mga tao sa music source na normal lang daw yung brandnew guitar na binebenta nila na lobo yung body?

Salamat sa replies.

I believe that new acoustic guitars should have a relatively flat belly.

[r_chino18]

I believe that new acoustic guitars should have a relatively flat belly.

Agree. However, most guitars in stores nowadays are new (as in brand new) but have been there for quite some time, that's why the said bulging or top bellying can already be seen.

Eventually acoustic guitars develop that belly.  Don't sweat it.  The typical remedy is to lower the bridge as your tech has done. Kung wala nang ibababa, neck re-set na yan or steam the top to bring back a slightly flatter more acceptable bulge.

Although I should say, some guitars exhibit these symptoms earlier, some later in their lifetime.

+1

[grasyaps]

These Takamine D series guitars are rubbish. No offense though since you seem to love yours a lot. The craftsmanship and the materials come across to me as flimsy cheap so much like those low-end beginner Yamahas.

I would rather save that cash for what would be another repair job and invest in a much trustworthy guitar. And that shouldnt cost you an arm and a leg.

I have an old Japanese Aria which i got from a forumer for P3000 around a decade ago which plays like a dream, even with gauge 12 strings. Like yours, it has had its bridge shaved a few years ago but thats after 35 years into its existence. Like what Royc said, 5 years and with that problem already? Just goes to show how low quality these guitars are.

Get a new guitar that would keep ypu satisfied for the next few decades

[Micho.05]

Next time lagi mong ilagay gitara mo sa case na may dehumidifier(taas ng humidity ng Pinas) o kaya sa kwartong may aircon.

[free2rock]

Firemodel, is that you?

[jefisipbata]

Wow, "rubbish" talaga?

[jbarot]

The top has nothing to do with the action in this case.  The dome you see there is intentional, it's called a "radiused" top.  The arc serves as a stabilizer against humidity.  Contrary to the name, most modern "flat tops" are not really flat, they have a 25 foot radius around the bridge area.

I think you need a neck reset (if your neck is a bolt on neck, check if the bolt is snug) or a new guitar.

[grasyaps]

daming bobong comments. makapag comment lang, wala namang experience. salesmen lang, kala mo may mga alam.

[dallas_41]

Sana makatulong. Pwede rin lagay mo sya sa hardcase or soft case tapos lagyan mo ng dehumidifier or silica jell.

[red lights]

daming bobong comments. makapag comment lang, wala namang experience. salesmen lang, kala mo may mga alam.

ang hard naman 

[Ralph_Petrucci]

well, that's why I went for the G series. the D series didn't seem to look and feel right.

pero if I had the chance, i would have just spent my money on a TOKAI Cats Eyes.

[grasyaps]

ang hard naman 

if magbabasa ka, makikita mong daming useless comments.

well, that's why I went for the G series.  the D series didn't seem to look and feel right.

exactly what i meant. unsatisfactory. basura, may maibenta lang.

[royc]

daming bobong comments. makapag comment lang, wala namang experience. salesmen lang, kala mo may mga alam.

Hindi nila-lang ang salemen. I was with sales and I can tell you that no company can live without good salesmen.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

im just wondering though, the price range of the D and G series of the takamine are not worlds apart, pero I really feel the up in quality of the G series from the D series.

hindi rin kasi mura ang D series sana nag phoebus nalang kumbaga. hahahaha

[red lights]

Hindi nila-lang ang salemen. I was with sales and I can tell you that no company can live without good salesmen.

oo nga naman

[grasyaps]

When i said "lang", it was not meant as if lowly yung trabaho ng salesman. When i said LANG, it means gusto lang makabenta - hindi nilalayout ang best options ng bibili.

[farseer]

Acoustic guitar tops have different radius.
Some are almost flat most are not.
Malamang neck reset na pag hindi na kaya mababa yun action.

[analog.matt]

When i said "lang", it was not meant as if lowly yung trabaho ng salesman. When i said LANG, it means gusto lang makabenta - hindi nilalayout ang best options ng bibili.

true. sa ibang bansa, salesmen are honest to give the option of not buying

sales is sales, that is if you want profits. but there are many salesmen who are more musician than salesmen and they're the ones who give real advice. sometimes it feels like you're getting advice from a friend.

unfortunately, some salesmen are just parrots. they repeat whatever is given to them or whatever is seen in promo material and not from their experience from having used one extensively. also i also get impressed when a salesmen says, "oh, i'm not qualified to answer that. let me get someone who is".

but anyway, TS, ask Farseer, he's very good with acoustic guitars as far as my opinion is concerned