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Title: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 27, 2007, 12:21:04 PM
Im adding another tom..which would you suggest? Currently I only have a 12" 13" and 16".. :?

all comments will be greatly appreciated.. :lol:
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: jpmb on April 27, 2007, 02:09:31 PM
i think 10 since the stock availbility of replacement skin for it is much better than the 8's.. :wink:..just my opinion
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 27, 2007, 06:06:09 PM
master jp.. :-D thanks for the tip, but taking into consideration that I would not have any problem with replacement skins for the 8"  :? would you still pick the 10"?
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: drumster on April 28, 2007, 03:57:40 AM
Sound-wise and appearance-wise, a 10" tom would blend in better with your existing set of toms.
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 29, 2007, 01:07:49 AM
Sound-wise and appearance-wise, a 10" tom would blend in better with your existing set of toms.

how sound-wise sir? Pls elaborate?  :lol:
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Diadem on April 29, 2007, 06:24:39 AM
10" is nice...
8" is cute...
6" ?!?! i hope so...  :lol:

10 (-2 whole steps-) 12 13 16 - good mix if that 13 was a 14.. better...  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: wipeout on April 29, 2007, 11:37:56 AM
Since you have 12, 13 and 16 toms I would also recommend a 10".  An 8" is nice but its pitch is too high from your next tom which is a 12".  If your smallest tom is a 10", an 8" tom would be appropriate.
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 29, 2007, 12:51:42 PM
good mix if that 13 was a 14.. better...  :mrgreen:

why better? :?

Personally I prefer the 13's for 2 reasons..I like the tone being close to the 12 and find it odd enough to be distinguishable; and 2..it saves me money when I buy pre-packs  :-D
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 29, 2007, 12:55:23 PM
So I guess if they were together it would be better? :?

I am just worried because I play with my ride on the right mount of the base drum (in between the left rack tom and the floor) so if I add 2 more toms on the left side I'm worried my hi-hat would be too far away  :| unless I do it like Neil Peart style where the toms are progressively going higher towards the left  :roll:(which I doubt I could play comfortably :|)

more inputs please.. :-D
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: behave_blue on April 29, 2007, 02:16:05 PM
sir saan po makakabili ng add-on tom?? salamat po
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Diadem on April 29, 2007, 04:08:15 PM
good mix if that 13 was a 14.. better...  :mrgreen:

why better? :?

Personally I prefer the 13's for 2 reasons..I like the tone being close to the 12 and find it odd enough to be distinguishable; and 2..it saves me money when I buy pre-packs  :-D

well the reason y 14 would be better than the 13 is because....

10 and 12 has a  2 inch difference... meaning it has a wider tone difference....

lets say you tune the 10" at A and the 12" at C and the 13" would be D.. but if that was 14, that would be E

2 whole steps apart from each tom... you can distinguish tom pitches and tones more effectively...

and also the 16" floor is 2 inches bigger than the 14" 

pero kung may makukuha kang 11" na tom.. e di ayus... hehe... 11" 12" 13" 16" :D
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: drummerboy827 on April 29, 2007, 07:38:50 PM
A 10" tom is so practical. If you get the 8" youre gonna have problems regarding the drumhead (like jp said) and you would want to replace it w/ a 1o :lol:
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Diadem on April 30, 2007, 10:28:08 AM
A 10" tom is so practical. If you get the 8" youre gonna have problems regarding the drumhead (like jp said) and you would want to replace it w/ a 1o :lol:


really?

hmmnn.. daming 8" na skins sa SM north ah... 8 pinstripe and coated ambassador
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 30, 2007, 11:21:23 AM

pero kung may makukuha kang 11" na tom.. e di ayus... hehe... 11" 12" 13" 16" :D


Hahaha!  :-D Now that is better!!! :lol:
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 30, 2007, 11:25:44 AM
A 10" tom is so practical. If you get the 8" youre gonna have problems regarding the drumhead (like jp said) and you would want to replace it w/ a 1o :lol:

As I stated above I would not have any problems with the 8" heads ever.. :-P
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 30, 2007, 11:27:17 AM
sir saan po makakabili ng add-on tom?? salamat po

locally i dont know bro  :|
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 01, 2007, 10:05:24 PM
no votes?  :|
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Diadem on May 02, 2007, 10:51:54 PM
my jumbo friend... go for the 10"
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on May 05, 2007, 10:36:14 AM
get both! hehehe i got the same setup as you, 12,13,16 toms, 2 days ago bumili ako ng concert toms ng fernando, 8 & 10 inch, nilagyan ko ng pinstripes and suprisingly maganda tunog nya even without the reso side, pero gs2 ko cya maging tom talaga kaya papalagyan ko pa kay master peeves ng reso, all in all about 7.5k lahat toms with stand, pinstripes, 8 &10inch hoops and lugs :D baka gusto mo lang i try
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 05, 2007, 10:49:46 PM
get both! hehehe i got the same setup as you, 12,13,16 toms, 2 days ago bumili ako ng concert toms ng fernando, 8 & 10 inch, nilagyan ko ng pinstripes and suprisingly maganda tunog nya even without the reso side, pero gs2 ko cya maging tom talaga kaya papalagyan ko pa kay master peeves ng reso, all in all about 7.5k lahat toms with stand, pinstripes, 8 &10inch hoops and lugs :D baka gusto mo lang i try

thanks for the tip bro.. :lol:

my worry lang if I get both 8" 10" tom is my hi-hat position might be too far from my snare since I set up my kit with the ride on the right side of the left tom mounted on the bass drum.. :? So it would turn out na 3 toms on top kaya baka malayo na masyado yun snare..what you think..?

ok yan fernando ah..mura plus with the pinstrip set up  :-D but I have my eye on a pair of export expansion toms  :lol:
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on May 05, 2007, 11:09:29 PM
yun din una kong concern di ko malaman pano ko ippuwesto yung 8 at ung 10... kung yung 10 lang ok lang eh pero both 10 and 8 mejo lalayo yung hi-hat ko, kaya nag compromise ako sa ride,

ganto cya before the toms:
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/P1060149.jpg)

ganto na cya ngayon:
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/P1060245.jpg)

all fernando hehehe, cant afford ako sa ngayon ng mga high end eh...

OT: peeves kelan natin lalagyan ng reso tong mga toms hehehe
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 06, 2007, 12:16:02 AM
oo nga eh..i figured kung 2 tom dadag-dag ko ganyan din magiging set up ko..unless mag ala Neil Peart na rising set up :| Haay..I love the right hand close ride talaga eh..

Ganda ng set mo bro! ganda rin ng set up mo :-D
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: y2jae21 on May 06, 2007, 12:19:35 PM
ako rin gusto ko malapit yung ride, parang pareho kami ni g0d5_g1ft pero nasa right side parin ng bass drum yung ride, napush backward/leftward yung hihat, tapos nagaral ako ng open hand playing. kaya yun ok na hehehe di namahihirapan unlike cross stick playing.
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 06, 2007, 01:01:53 PM
good alternative kaso mahirap yan para sakin  :lol: good for you bro..

san ka nagaral? o ikaw lang?  :-D
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: peeves24 on May 06, 2007, 08:22:56 PM
ganto na cya ngayon:
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/P1060245.jpg)

all fernando hehehe, cant afford ako sa ngayon ng mga high end eh...

OT: peeves kelan natin lalagyan ng reso tong mga toms hehehe

ei mike danda danda ng setup mo. sarap umupo dyan a

next sunday pwede or kung gusto mo, dalin mo na yung toms at parts sa mini-eb tapos meet tayo ng sunday para makuha mo na
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Bammbamm on May 06, 2007, 09:00:41 PM
I find 10" tom more versatile, soundwise. Masyado na mataas yung pitch nung 8" para sa akin. kung mag dadagdag ako nung 8", maglalagay na lang ako siguro ng bongo,o conga.

Ok na yung 10", 12", 13" 16" na setup para sa akin. Pwede din magdagdag ka nlang ng 14" tpos yung 13" gawin mong aux bass drum! Astig! Fusion na yung setup mo; pwede sa rock pwede sa jazz! :wink:


 :-D hala palo!
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on May 06, 2007, 11:48:06 PM
I find 10" tom more versatile, soundwise. Masyado na mataas yung pitch nung 8" para sa akin. kung mag dadagdag ako nung 8", maglalagay na lang ako siguro ng bongo,o conga.

Ok na yung 10", 12", 13" 16" na setup para sa akin. Pwede din magdagdag ka nlang ng 14" tpos yung 13" gawin mong aux bass drum! Astig! Fusion na yung setup mo; pwede sa rock pwede sa jazz! :wink:


 :-D hala palo!

gnun nga din gusto ko eh kaso wala naman akong makitang 14" tom, may nakita akong marching snare sa lazer, pati trak, ok kaya gawing tom un? tanggalin nalang yung snare? naisip ko lang.. master peeves nu sa tingin mo? hehehe


ei mike danda danda ng setup mo. sarap umupo dyan a

next sunday pwede or kung gusto mo, dalin mo na yung toms at parts sa mini-eb tapos meet tayo ng sunday para makuha mo na

yup ganon nga naisip ko nung nakita ko yung mini eb eh, ganon nalang nga siguro para maka panood na din ako ng mga magagaling hehehe... tnx pao!
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 07, 2007, 11:13:17 PM
thanks for the inputs bro Bamm.. :lol:

I likey your idea  :-D
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: y2jae21 on May 08, 2007, 10:53:44 AM
good alternative kaso mahirap yan para sakin  :lol: good for you bro..

san ka nagaral? o ikaw lang?  :-D

nagpractice lang lagi ng left lead sa hihat, taps right lead naman sa ride. ganun lang. saka sa rudiments nagsstart ako ng left. haha.hindi ko naman pinwersa sarili nagdevelop lang in time
Title: Re: HELP 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 10, 2007, 12:37:12 AM
oic..galing mo bro  :-D
Title: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: drumkick on July 31, 2007, 08:37:40 AM
para sa mga drummer sa industriya.... ano ba mas prefer na toms sa gig kpag variety 2g2gan...
8" or 10" na tom...  para kc skin d ko na maramdaman ung 8" sa loob pero sa haus ganda nmn ang tunog.. grabee sa lutong... 10" ok lng sa loob at haus... mga bro,, kau ano sa tingin nyo ano mas ok gamitin sa gig... tnx   :-D



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Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: drumster on July 31, 2007, 08:58:41 AM
Well, I think it depends on what kind of sound you're after, and on the style of music.

My dream kit includes 8" and 10" toms.  I like both toms hehe...

But if I have to choose one, I would go for a 10" tom.  Compared to an 8" tom, a 10" tom is more versatile and has a more flexible tuning capability.
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: kibohead on July 31, 2007, 09:10:51 AM
if i'd pick one, i'll go for the 10" tom...tama si dio. but of course an 8" tom would be a great addition.  :-)
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: jpmb on July 31, 2007, 10:16:23 AM
i will settle for the 10'tom..one factor of this is its easier to find a replacement skin for a size 10 tom :wink:
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on July 31, 2007, 10:25:50 AM
I believe a thread identical to this already exists.. :lol:

if you want more info/comments/inputs check this out..http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,44908.0.html

goodluck! :wink:
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: alvin_11 on July 31, 2007, 11:18:21 AM
i'llgo for the 10" tom too po..pero pa OT lang po, san po nakakabili sa raon ng 10" na remo encore batterhead? :?
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: feed_back on July 31, 2007, 05:50:40 PM
i love the sound of an 8 tom promise but ill still go for a 10 kung sa gig gagamitin masyado akong nataasan sa tunog ng 8 pag naka mic in :)...
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: cavsdieagram on July 31, 2007, 05:52:48 PM
lalo na kapag gagamitin ung 8" as single tom ska biglang 16" na floor tom ang layo ng tunog.... :lol:
mas ok ung 10"...
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: meinldrummer on July 31, 2007, 07:48:03 PM
Definitely 10" tom.
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: drumster on July 31, 2007, 11:54:06 PM
I believe a thread identical to this already exists.. :lol:

if you want more info/comments/inputs check this out..http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,44908.0.html

goodluck! :wink:


Thanks for refreshing your old topic, bro Akira!  I appreciate it.

I merged your topics.  I hope you don't mind, drumkick.  8-)
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: drumkick on August 01, 2007, 04:48:50 AM
tnx sir drumster.. yup i think 10" mas ok talaga..  tnx sa mga comment brothers...
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: intake on August 01, 2007, 07:30:13 AM
8" tom sounds too small...bitin yun para sakin!

ok na yung 10" tom..smallest tom for my setup
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: Jayctrinidadjr96 on August 01, 2007, 02:15:05 PM
10" tom for me. I use a 10", 12" as my main toms. the 8" is too small for me. Its great if the genre played is reggae though
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: DumDrum on August 01, 2007, 07:23:30 PM
Ask ko lng sir, if i only have 12" 13" and 16" toms,
what would be the standard tuning??

is it 12" = C   13" D   and 16" = E?? hoping for a kind response kahit PM po sana sir..  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Poll: 8" or 10" tom?
Post by: wipeout on August 03, 2007, 08:54:08 AM
Sarap paglaruan ang 8" tom, pero mas versatile pa rin ang 10"tom.  I made an 8"tom and add it to my kit.  It gives the kit a totally new overall sound.  :-D