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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #750 on: May 13, 2015, 12:06:41 PM »
yun nga eh. gusto ko sana yung aux crash ko pang crash riding talaga (Sabian calls this technique "Wash Riding", for their APX line promotions), eh ang hirap maghanap ng crash ride na mura. I find crash rides have a more stable swing than crashes (minsan kasi sa next downstroke mo nasa baba pa yung cymbal kaya nawawala sa rhythm.

kung yun ang problem mo paps, kailangan mo ng heavier cymbal. or you have to work on a technique to control this. pag ginagawa ko yan sa sultan parang circular motion ang striking motion ko para di siya tumungo.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #751 on: May 13, 2015, 12:23:37 PM »
kung yun ang problem mo paps, kailangan mo ng heavier cymbal. or you have to work on a technique to control this. pag ginagawa ko yan sa sultan parang circular motion ang striking motion ko para di siya tumungo.

hmmmmm. heavier cymbal. ma-check nga yan pag napadpad sa music store. try ko rin i-apply yang circular motion. ganyan na ako magcrash talaga kasi malayo yung ride ko sa crash ("glancing motion") pero di ko pa nattry sa pag-ride. anong mga model ang mabigat sa Istanbul?
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #752 on: May 13, 2015, 12:40:23 PM »
hmmmmm. heavier cymbal. ma-check nga yan pag napadpad sa music store. try ko rin i-apply yang circular motion. ganyan na ako magcrash talaga kasi malayo yung ride ko sa crash ("glancing motion") pero di ko pa nattry sa pag-ride. anong mga model ang mabigat sa Istanbul?

Radiant or Samatya.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #753 on: May 13, 2015, 01:09:23 PM »
Radiant or Samatya.

question nga pala, sa series ng Istanbul ano yung mga identity/USP ng bawat isa? ang dami kasi nilang lines.
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #754 on: May 13, 2015, 01:35:45 PM »
question nga pala, sa series ng Istanbul ano yung mga identity/USP ng bawat isa? ang dami kasi nilang lines.

from what I heard:

RADIANT = A Custom = AAX
SAMATYA = A = AA
SULTAN = K = HH
Traditional = K Custom/A Custom = HHX/AAX
Funky = A = AA

hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha


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« Reply #755 on: May 14, 2015, 10:50:38 AM »
from what I heard:

RADIANT = A Custom = AAX
SAMATYA = A = AA
SULTAN = K = HH
Traditional = K Custom/A Custom = HHX/AAX
Funky = A = AA

Looks like it's a Samatya for me!
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« Reply #756 on: May 14, 2015, 04:45:01 PM »
Random question, ang Istanbul ba may protective coating din, or bare metal sya tulad ng sinaunang cymbals?
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #757 on: May 14, 2015, 05:21:36 PM »
there is no such thing as protective coating on all cymbals except for the colored ones like paiste's colorsound, the yucky black zildjians etc.

kung ano yung final lathing nya, yun na yun

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« Reply #758 on: May 14, 2015, 05:36:19 PM »
there is no such thing as protective coating on all cymbals except for the colored ones like paiste's colorsound, the yucky black zildjians etc.

kung ano yung final lathing nya, yun na yun

I like those Zildjian Pitch Black stuff, for showing off  :lol:

so sir peeves ibig sabihin myth lang yun? mga nababasa ko kasi may coating daw to protect from tarnishing (and that's what the cymbal cleaners claim to protect, plus the logo)
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #759 on: May 14, 2015, 10:21:14 PM »
there is no such thing as protective coating on all cymbals except for the colored ones like paiste's colorsound, the yucky black zildjians etc.

kung ano yung final lathing nya, yun na yun

from what I've read . . . only Paiste claims that their cymbals are treated with special protective coating . . .

http://www.paiste.com/e/support_usagecare.php?menuid=318 (check under "Cleaning")


mga sir . . . anong line ng Istanbul yung mabilis mag open pag "wash" then mabilis din ang decay? "Fast Crash" ba ang tawag dun??



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« Reply #760 on: May 15, 2015, 08:56:20 AM »
from what I've read . . . only Paiste claims that their cymbals are treated with special protective coating . . .

http://www.paiste.com/e/support_usagecare.php?menuid=318 (check under "Cleaning")


mga sir . . . anong line ng Istanbul yung mabilis mag open pag "wash" then mabilis din ang decay? "Fast Crash" ba ang tawag dun??

I think depende na sa cymbal model mismo yun. If I'm not mistaken fast crashes are the ones with smaller bells and thinner, flatter bows.
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #761 on: May 15, 2015, 09:32:09 AM »
from what I've read . . . only Paiste claims that their cymbals are treated with special protective coating . . .

http://www.paiste.com/e/support_usagecare.php?menuid=318 (check under "Cleaning")


mga sir . . . anong line ng Istanbul yung mabilis mag open pag "wash" then mabilis din ang decay? "Fast Crash" ba ang tawag dun??

fro what I've heard, ganito yung FUNKY. usually thin models, smaller sizes. naalala ko yung sa 19east na FUNKY, instant crash tawag ko dun eh. biglang pasok, biglang labas =))
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #762 on: May 15, 2015, 09:42:50 AM »
from what I've read . . . only Paiste claims that their cymbals are treated with special protective coating . . .

http://www.paiste.com/e/support_usagecare.php?menuid=318 (check under "Cleaning")


mga sir . . . anong line ng Istanbul yung mabilis mag open pag "wash" then mabilis din ang decay? "Fast Crash" ba ang tawag dun??

nah walang coating mga paiste. you would know when you touch a cymbal. its always bare metal. they only say that they have a protective coating for marketing purposes...so they can sell more of their brand cleaner

I like those Zildjian Pitch Black stuff, for showing off  :lol:

so sir peeves ibig sabihin myth lang yun? mga nababasa ko kasi may coating daw to protect from tarnishing (and that's what the cymbal cleaners claim to protect, plus the logo)

laganap naman yung cymbal factory videos ngayon. you will never see one where they show you a step wherein they dip or spray something on it. secret step/recipe? i think the simplest explanation is there no protective coatings at all.
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #763 on: May 15, 2015, 09:49:52 AM »
nah walang coating mga paiste. you would know when you touch a cymbal. its always bare metal. they only say that they have a protective coating for marketing purposes...so they can sell more of their brand cleaner

laganap naman yung cymbal factory videos ngayon. you will never see one where they show you a step wherein they dip or spray something on it. secret step/recipe? i think the simplest explanation is there no protective coatings at all.
lies!! corporate lies!! :-o

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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #764 on: May 15, 2015, 11:01:35 AM »
@ peeves,

Trudat. lahat naman ng ginamit kong cymbals parang wala namang coating hahahaha and that coating thing, i dont think cymbals will open up kung may coating. parang pitchblack aka muted ZBTs. hahahaha
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #765 on: May 15, 2015, 11:12:37 AM »
@ peeves,

Trudat. lahat naman ng ginamit kong cymbals parang wala namang coating hahahaha and that coating thing, i dont think cymbals will open up kung may coating. parang pitchblack aka muted ZBTs. hahahaha

ay wait, alam ko yung B8s ko may coating! I cleaned my cymbals once and noticed a certain varnish-looking mark on a one inch-wide edge. dun yata nagcollect yung "coating". I'll take a pic when I clean my cymbals again  :)
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #766 on: May 15, 2015, 11:32:38 AM »
Sale pala ngayon up to June 30, 2015 kay Lazer.  Magkano kaya discount sa cymbals set?

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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #767 on: May 15, 2015, 02:08:12 PM »
nah walang coating mga paiste. you would know when you touch a cymbal. its always bare metal. they only say that they have a protective coating for marketing purposes...so they can sell more of their brand cleaner

ayun lang . . .  <_<

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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #768 on: May 15, 2015, 02:19:46 PM »
fro what I've heard, ganito yung FUNKY. usually thin models, smaller sizes. naalala ko yung sa 19east na FUNKY, instant crash tawag ko dun eh. biglang pasok, biglang labas =))

good to know meron pala . . .  8-)

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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #769 on: May 31, 2015, 12:01:51 AM »
Just watched Whiplash...panoorin nyo

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« Reply #770 on: June 01, 2015, 09:20:20 AM »
Just watched Whiplash...panoorin nyo

puro Istanbul at Bospohorus ang mga tatak ng cymbals! mga nagtrabaho sa K Zildjian factories noon  :lol:

BTT: Ano nga pala magandang pang-tame dun sa bell ng Sultan ride? ang ganda ng tunog pero akala mo may sunog sa simbahan sa lakas eh. nag-experiment ako magmic ng kit kagabi gamit dalawang mic lang, yung bell yung pinakamalakas sa kahit anong element ng kit.
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #771 on: June 01, 2015, 09:56:13 AM »
I use stickytacks sometimes to dampen the sound, meron sa Natl Bookstore

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« Reply #772 on: June 01, 2015, 10:28:36 AM »
I use stickytacks sometimes to dampen the sound, meron sa Natl Bookstore

yun ba yung BluTack? parang yung clay na sosyal na maliliit na square?
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Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
« Reply #773 on: June 01, 2015, 11:26:49 AM »
yun ba yung BluTack? parang yung clay na sosyal na maliliit na square?

Yup, both are brand names for the same thing

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« Reply #774 on: June 01, 2015, 12:10:14 PM »
Yup, both are brand names for the same thing

hooray! thanks!  :)
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