Is Nirvana really Grunge?

[maangaskaba?]

Grunge ba tlaga sila? Naging grunge lang naman ata kse galing sa seattle, washington. Di naman nila katunog yung Pearl Jam at Stone Temple pilots pati boses ang layo. Mas punk yung origins nila Kurt at Krist. Kurt always talked about the punk lifestyles and philosophies. Lagi nya dinedescribe yung punk as his own "freedom". Never did he mention that nirvana was grunge. Pakinggan nyo yung Bleach album at Nevermind. Mas punk kesa grunge. hehe. eh ewan. ano sa tingin nyo?

[skunkyfunk]

Grunge ba tlaga sila? Naging grunge lang naman ata kse galing sa seattle, washington. Di naman nila katunog yung Pearl Jam at Stone Temple pilots pati boses ang layo. Mas punk yung origins nila Kurt at Krist. Kurt always talked about the punk lifestyles and philosophies. Lagi nya dinedescribe yung punk as his own "freedom". Never did he mention that nirvana was grunge. Pakinggan nyo yung Bleach album at Nevermind. Mas punk kesa grunge. hehe. eh ewan. ano sa tingin nyo?

STP is not grunge.  They even denied being part of the Seattle Sound as they are NYers AFAIK.

Grunge is related to that Seattle sound that defied postmodern glam and hair metal. 

To come to think of it, AIC, Pearl jam, Soundgarden and Nirvana don't sound the same.

[cavsdieagram]

STP is not grunge.  They even denied being part of the Seattle Sound as they are NYers AFAIK.

Grunge is related to that Seattle sound that defied postmodern glam and hair metal. 

To come to think of it, AIC, Pearl jam, Soundgarden and Nirvana don't sound the same.

+1 

[m1k3]

i think grunge is a fashion/lifestyle labelled by MTV

[spife]

i think grunge is a fashion/lifestyle labelled by MTV

+1. sa itsura mo na nga lang sila halos sila naddistinguish di ba?  siguro niredefine lang ng nirvana ang "grunge" sound / nag-add sila sa definition. hehe. 

[jeanne]

Nung napanuod ko documentary ng Nirvana, mga Brit daw ang nagbansag ng term na Grunge when they went to Seattle to cover the scene there. 

Yeah, magkakaiba sound ng AIC, PJ, Nirvana, Screaming Trees, STP, etc...  so malabong Grunge ay genre ng isang type ng music.  Maybe, era or lifestyle/scene nung time na yun?  Di ba ang mga cinonsider na Grunge bands e yung mga sumikat nung early 90's?  Kahit na iba-iba tugtugan nila, they were considered as Grunge bands.  Tapos nung namatay si Kurt, may post Grunge pa (Bush, etc...)

Grunge or not, I really like that era the most!  Angst, Good music and lyrics.

Please, please, please... Don't go on me!!!!!

[maangaskaba?]

kaya pag may nagsabi saken na "tunog grunge yung bandang yan", mejo malabo noh? hehe.

[Deadwing]

Try looking for the Doug Pray documentary film called Hype!  It chronicles the rise and fall of a musical movement in Seattle during the 90's.  It starts with the roots with Green River, The Melvins, etc down to the Seattle scene before the Nirvana explosion with The U-Men, Mother Love Bone, and Mudhoney.  It also goes on after Kurt's suicide and features bands that came in their wake like The Presidents of the USA.

Fortunately enough, the scene in Seattle today benefits much from what happened in the 90's.  Local radio station KEXP is the frontrunner in breaking indie rock bands to a worldwide audience today.  Groups like Death Cab For Cutie and Minus The Bear are just a couple of the local bands that reap the benefits of the legacy left behind by their forebears.  The 90's Seattle scene is also the reason why major rock acts today make Seattle a major stop in their tour itinerary.

[jeff_proX40]

ang alam ko grudge sila eh hehehe.

[delio]

grunge nga sila yun na yun 
parang grudge
he he

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[avery97]

para medyo malinaw,ang grunge as far as i know ay combination ng hardcore punk at metal at inspired by indie rock,kasi yung mga panahon na yon medyo magkaibang panig ang metal at punk so siguro naisip ng mga  grunge bands sa seattle na icombine ng metal at punk with indie rock inspired kasi yung mga grunge bands that time ay supporters ng metal at punk..meron din nagtatanong bakit yung ibang grunge song ay medyo slow, marahil sa influence ng mga bands na naka influence sa mga grunge bands gaya ng sonic youth,pixies,the melvins,black sabbath at led zepplin..sabi sa wikipedia,yung vocalist ng seattle band na greenriver ang nagsimula ng term na "grunge" because he critized his band na sinabi nya sa isang seattle fanzine  na ang former band nya na mr. epp and the calculation ay PURE GRUNGE,PURE NOISE,PURE [gooey brown stuff] tapos later na describe na rin ang grunge as a subgenre ng alternative rock.. ..marami lang na grunge bands ang nag originate pero it doesnt mean kung di ka taga seattle that time ay di ka na grunge, for example ang STP,tunog grunge so identified sila as grunge at music naman ang pinaguusapan at hindi kung taga seattle ka..pero lahat naman ng grunge bands like nirvana,AIC,pearl jam soundgraden,STP etc. ay hindi purely grunge yung grunge ay parang COMMON genre lang nila yon, pero each of them ay merong various  genres sa music nila  hindi lang grunge exclusively,which expalin bakit hindi ang mga grunge bands hindi magkatunog, nalabel lang sila na grunge bands kasi may COMMON genre sila na GRUNGE  at marahil para to easily identify their sound na sabihan nalang sila na "grunge band"

[ommantra]

alam ko alternative rock yung music nila...tpos DOD GRUNGE yung pinamigay nya dating effects habang nagcoconcert sila...yung effects na tinapon niya sa audience pagkatapos niyan gamitin...hehe

[sumalinog]

i think nakuha ni kurt yung term na grunge sa SUB POP record pero generally credited yung vocalist ng greenriver na si mark arm na sya ang nagsimula ng term na grunge...

[toybitz]

STP is not grunge.  They even denied being part of the Seattle Sound as they are NYers AFAIK.

Grunge is related to that Seattle sound that defied postmodern glam and hair metal. 

To come to think of it, AIC, Pearl jam, Soundgarden and Nirvana don't sound the same.

you can count in Mudhoney, The Smashing Pumpkins, Screaming Trees, Soul Asylum..

[James_Animagi]

ang grunge kasi iba iba ung genre na involve jan. nirvana is grunge based on punk..pearl jam is grunge based on hard rock music..Alice in Chains and Soundgarden are grunge based on metal music..kaya mahirap i-define talaga ang grunge..basta ang alam ko its about making raw music or down to basic music

[insultedgamer]

Grunge ba tlaga sila? Naging grunge lang naman ata kse galing sa seattle, washington. Di naman nila katunog yung Pearl Jam at Stone Temple pilots pati boses ang layo. Mas punk yung origins nila Kurt at Krist. Kurt always talked about the punk lifestyles and philosophies. Lagi nya dinedescribe yung punk as his own "freedom". Never did he mention that nirvana was grunge. Pakinggan nyo yung Bleach album at Nevermind. Mas punk kesa grunge. hehe. eh ewan. ano sa tingin nyo?

Di pa kasi ako nakakarinig ng kahit anung Nirvana song, pero sa nabasa ko, Grunge sila. Meron pa ngang tinawag na Seattle's Big Four. 
Isa yung Nirvana dun. 

[distrito45]

they are Punk, naging grunge lang para sounding new sa mga kids.

[insultedgamer]

they are Punk, naging grunge lang para sounding new sa mga kids.

Di'ba yung Grunge isa sa mga genre ng Punk? So if they're Grunge they're Punk. 

(Tama kaya yun?) 

[James_Animagi]

seattle four are nirvana, pearl jam,alice in chains and soundgarden..ung mga bands na to may mga kanya kanyang mga sound style galing sila sa grunge genre pero hindi sila pare pareho ng sound

[spife]

Di'ba yung Grunge isa sa mga genre ng Punk? So if they're Grunge they're Punk. 

(Tama kaya yun?) 

may pagkatama yun hehe. sa School of Rock nga nilagay ni Jack Black yung Nirvana under Punk eh. hehe. 

[rakzz]

Di'ba yung Grunge isa sa mga genre ng Punk? So if they're Grunge they're Punk. 

(Tama kaya yun?) 

ang GRUNGE ay isa sa mga SUB GENRES ng alternative rock, ang GRUNGE ay fusion ng HEAVY METAL at HARDCORE PUNK...you can say na malaking bahagi ang PUNK sa EVOLUTION ng GRUNGE

[aeronotics24]

tama ..
malapit sa grunge ung punk..
nirvana ata ung nag pauso ng grunge ehh..tama b??
kung d ako nag kamali c kurt ung vocals ayaw ata nya ung attitude ng punk ...d ako sure sa sinabi ko pero un ang mga naiintindihan ko sa mga naririnig ko

[Deadwing]

^^^

Not true.  Kurt enjoyed both Black Flag and Black Sabbath.

It's widely believed that Kurt and the boys really started getting national attention opening for Sonic Youth when they were touring for the Dirty album.  This tour, I believe was also what got the bigwigs at DGC to sign Nirvana and leave Sub Pop.  If you're able to find Sonic Youth's very rare live VHS home video called 1991: The Year Punk Broke, you'll get a good idea of what the musical climate was like. BTW, if you're interested in seeing this documentary reissued on DVD, click on the link below to petition it's re-release.  This is one of the seminal films that caught the gen x zeitgeist accurately.

http://wegotpowerfilms.com/films/punk.html

Just for clarification, grunge already also existed even before Smells Like Teen Spirit.  Mother Love Bone, which was essentially a precursor to Pearl Jam were on the way to making it on a national level had it not been for vocalist Andrew Wood's drug overdose (Ha--it was astonishing to find out that my brother graduated in the same high school that Wood attended).  Before that band came to be, Mark Arm, Steve Turner, Stone Gossard, and Jeff Ament were in the same band called Green River.  Soundgarden was also making the rounds playing in places like The Vogue, the OK Cafe, and The Off-Ramp and were also touring nationally for the Louder Than Love album at around the same time MLB was getting attention.

[rakzz]

^^^

Not true.  Kurt enjoyed both Black Flag and Black Sabbath.

It's widely believed that Kurt and the boys really started getting national attention opening for Sonic Youth when they were touring for the Dirty album.  This tour, I believe was also what got the bigwigs at DGC to sign Nirvana and leave Sub Pop.  If you're able to find Sonic Youth's very rare live VHS home video called 1991: The Year Punk Broke, you'll get a good idea of what the musical climate was like. BTW, if you're interested in seeing this documentary reissued on DVD, click on the link below to petition it's re-release.  This is one of the seminal films that caught the gen x zeitgeist accurately.

http://wegotpowerfilms.com/films/punk.html

Just for clarification, grunge already also existed even before Smells Like Teen Spirit.  Mother Love Bone, which was essentially a precursor to Pearl Jam were on the way to making it on a national level had it not been for vocalist Andrew Wood's drug overdose (Ha--it was astonishing to find out that my brother graduated in the same high school that Wood attended).  Before that band came to be, Mark Arm, Steve Turner, Stone Gossard, and Jeff Ament were in the same band called Green River.  Soundgarden was also making the rounds playing in places like The Vogue, the OK Cafe, and The Off-Ramp and were also touring nationally for the Louder Than Love album at around the same time MLB was getting attention.

nirvana is definitely a grunge band because their sound are influenced by heavy metal and hardcore bands they...they were influenced too by grunge bands such as  the melvins,mudhoney and many more

[edong660]

may interview c curt cobain na cnabi nya na new wave band daw sila...