Signs to look out for in determining fake Epiphones

[mikomiko]

helpful thread im buying an EPI in 1 month time

[grasyaps]

eto daw fake. di daw ganito ang headstock ng epi

check this out guys. Musiciansfriend selling fake lefties @ 564 usd ? or its just me?



http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Standard-LeftHanded-Electric-Guitar?sku=518343

what made you think this one is fake? legit yan. beside, MF wont sell fakes dude.

[Rmansh]

^yup its not. its an old korean epi just like what bry said . epiphone went tru several templates . still need to do some more reading.

[charles55]

napaguusapan na din ang FAKE Guitars, eto  matindi. tigas ng mukha.  Chibanez to:

everytime may magpost sa wall nya na PEKE ang items nya, binubura nya.

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/2252782/Ibanez+S470+%28Prestige%29+Brandnew+with+FREEBIES?referralKeywords=ibanez

[Bolt Thrower]

^yup its not. its an old korean epi just like what bry said . epiphone went tru several templates . still need to do some more reading.

i think what grasyaps has is japanese.

[r_chino18]

i think what grasyaps has is japanese.

i think what Rmansh was referring to was the lefty LP at MF.. 

[Mike.B.]

meron na atang mga nag comment and denelete lang nung seller. check out the first post of this thread, the TS even consulted other forums.

Me and another fellow Epiphone user commented on his ads and they were deleted. he even sent a private message to that guy saying "Respect others posting! please check first before you comment...
What is your competency about guitars? My source is 25 years in music industry...
Better watch out what you are saying."
what a load of crap.
(couldn't access the philmusic site for a month. weird. I use a sun broadband connection in intramuros. I'm in Olongapo right now and still can't access the philmusic site from my laptop. have to use our home PC)

[Mike.B.]

i think what grasyaps has is japanese.

yep. these are Fujigen made epiphones. they discontinued this around 2006 or 07 or something because more people are buying this instead of Gibson guitars and it's hurting Gibson's sales. these are one of the highest quality epiphones. these were built in the same factory that built Orville, Orville by Gibson, Epiphone Elitist/Elite, Greco (?), etc.

[Mike.B.]

^yup its not. its an old korean epi just like what bry said . epiphone went tru several templates . still need to do some more reading.

not korean, Japanese. but the early Korean Epi's (88, 89 I think) had the open book headstock but narrower than that of the Gibson headstock. only the Japanese made Epiphones had the open book headstock that is exactly the same as Gibsons. also the two screw TRC's. 

[Mike.B.]

about the Rome issue.
I already sent an e-mail to Gibson guitars and they quickly responded saying that they will forward my message to their legal department. this was over a month ago and Rome is still in business with his fakies. I wonder if Gibson is even trying to put a stop to this 

[bryanarzaga]

not korean, Japanese. but the early Korean Epi's (88, 89 I think) had the open book headstock but narrower than that of the Gibson headstock. only the Japanese made Epiphones had the open book headstock that is exactly the same as Gibsons. also the two screw TRC's. 

what Rmansh referred to as FAKE?? was the one from MusiciansFriend not grasyaps LP..its a misunderstanding..and for the ONE posted in MusiciansFriend is an OLD MIK epi LP..

[Rmansh]

^yup its not. its an old korean epi just like what bry said . epiphone went tru several templates . still need to do some more reading.

i was referring to the link at MusiciansFriend. not the headstock shot by grasyaps. BOTH are LEGIT tho.

about the Rome issue.
I already sent an e-mail to Gibson guitars and they quickly responded saying that they will forward my message to their legal department. this was over a month ago and Rome is still in business with his fakies. I wonder if Gibson is even trying to put a stop to this 

well sa dami ng fake sellers around the world, i doubt if gibson would even lift a finger to stop rome.

[Mike.B.]

sorry, my bad 

[Rmansh]

sorry, my bad 

LOL i also emailed them and  got the same reply 

[tsunamic]

[ice cream], muntik pa ako mapabili dito. nirecommend to ng tropa ko. mura epiphones daw. i didnt know they're fake.

[nonshowbiz]

i think it would be more effective if you emailed information
about the factory the produces the fakes baka may action..
kapag small time seller lang malabo yan, dapat local distributor lang siguro ang
ini inform..na ewan lang natin kung gagalaw..laking gastos din kasi mag raid..

[Mike.B.]

to the mods, and other epi users on philmusic.
you think we should start a thread where people could ask about the legitimacy of their epiphone guitars or if an epiphone they are about to buy is fake or not? or should we just all go to the mylespaul.com/forums and post under the fake epiphones thread (part II)?
I just thought maybe we could have a version of the Fake Epi thread so people wouldn't have to make an account on the MLP forums and just ask around here. at least we could reply immediately to those asking about the legitimacy of their guitars. the epi experts on MLP live in a different timezone so answering our questions might take a day or so. and then if none of us here at philmusic could verify if a guitar in question is fake or not, we could then refer it to the MLP forums.
maybe not just a fake epi thread. maybe also a "fake ibanez" thread. a "fake gibsons" thread, etc etc etc. as we all know fakes are rampant here in our country (especially since mr. Rome "I have 25 years of experience under my belt but can't even tell if an epiphone is fake or not" Candaza roams in our lands)
anyways. just a suggestion.
still can't access the philmusic site on my laptop. have to use the home pc. damn. moving back to the dorm in intramuros tomorrow. won't be able to browse around philmusic again

[Mike.B.]

wow...making fakes of fakes  

come on. epiphones aren't fakes. they're great guitars as well, maybe a little overpriced, but wtf man  , epiphones are great too. just because it doesn't say GIBSON on the headstock of their les pauls and g-400s, etc. doesn't mean they're fakes.
just mod them to your preference and boom a great guitar for you for a fraction of the cost of a Gibson.
Taken from http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/epiphone-les-pauls/96050-fake-epis-stroke-luck-me.html?highlight=amazon
Sportrider24(senior member): That does not suprise me at all. I was at Sam Ash a couple of months ago and mentioned to the manager about the fake Epi's selling on ebay and such. His comment back to me was "Really?... Why would anyone fake a fake?"
davies(senior member): The manager is an idiot.
sportrider24(senior member): Agreed. Great sales tactic when I was actually in there looking at Epiphones.
anonimouse(junior member): (quote from davies: the manager is an idiot) truth!

[domengshu]

Me and my friend almost fell into his trap. I can't believe he's even selling fake Squier strats.

Good thing I noticed that the headstock had both California Series and Bullet Strat on it.. Then saw the fretboard.. Then I stopped texting..

[bryanarzaga]

i just couldnt understand the reason why they wouldnt disclose as replica's..there would be less hassle for both buyer and seller..

[turiguiliano]

i just couldnt understand the reason why they wouldnt disclose as replica's..there would be less hassle for both buyer and seller..

+1.

[galingnamanon]

i just couldnt understand the reason why they wouldnt disclose as replica's..there would be less hassle for both buyer and seller..

onga..sadly mukhang me intention nga manloko..tsk tsk..buti nlng me mga thread na ganito

[janssen22]

nakita ko na isa sa mga les paul custom nya.. halatang halatang fake.. yung mga screws nya saliwa saliwa pagkakakabit.. tapos nag tutunog lata kahit anong gawin ko.. napansin ko agad na fake sya..

[Mike.B.]

Basta keep this in mind:
IF it sounds too good to be true, then odds are that IT'S NOT!
lol  
anyways, a co-forumite sent me a personal message asking about the authenticity of his friend's les paul. I couldn't reply to his message because I could not access philmusic with my sun broadband, so for those who want to ask me about anything regarding this thread, just send me an email: mike_5694@yahoo.com
cheers mga bro.
ingat ingat sa pagbili ng epi
can't wait for my Epiphone lmt ed. 1966 g-400 to come
I'm gonna mod the crap out of this baby. SD APH-1n/APH-1b. 50's wiring with 500k CTS pots, .22uf PIO capacitors, switchcraft toggle and jack, braided cloth covered wiring all from tonemojo.com. will get some Tone pros kluson style locking tuners with press in bushings, graphtech nut and graphtech graphite bridge when I save up some money. and I'll probably wet sand the neck like sir Nalu did with his VS Epi standard plus
heading to intramuros again. di nanaman makakapag philmusic 
 
cheers

[Rmansh]

^ dami pira