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Tech Forums => PC Tech => Topic started by: badongrodrigs on November 01, 2010, 10:56:29 PM
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i have to say, wow. i knew Macs were expensive before, but dammmn this is just wrong.
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Their mobile PC offerings are a bit competitive (MacBook). But yeah, the Mac Pro is expensive. Well, Apple users justify it because of tight integration with OS X and for them it's the experience. It's pretty hard to reason out against that :)
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Well, Apple users justify it because of tight integration with OS X and for them it's the experience. It's pretty hard to reason out against that :)
how well i know. i can already hear Mac users say "I have the money, and having a Mac separates us from the madlang people who uses PC." After all, Apple has been known to cater to the affluent market.
But still... :D
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now this is really true in my point of view as user of both MAC and PC..
I wont buy that MacPro even if I have the funds.. ill buy a PC instead.. I use a Mac primarily for media and my work, I record music with a Mac, do videos with a Mac and work with a Mac.. but I PLAY USING A PC.
The integration of Mac OSX in Mac hardwares is just plain awesome and seamless.. very fast and not in my years using a Mac I encountered blue screens, lagging desktops, memory dumps, folder and explorer errors and most importantly.. VIRUSES, there are viruses specifically made for Macs and other linux-based machines but I never had a chance to deal with them.
I never used a Hackintosh before so I cant comment on how fast Mac OSX is if used in a PC but I can praise apple for creating such a wonderful combination of Hardware and Software.
I will still buy a Mac and their future iterations, but I wont be without having a PC around too.. :-D
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I'll be a bit pedantic here. But a Mac is a PC (from the hardware point of view) :) Same components (x86 procs, RAMs, Hard disks etc.). Now, regarding blue screens, I experienced the counterparts; Spinning beach ball of death and kernel panics on Macs (both G4 and x86 offerings). In defense to Windows, most of the BSODs I experienced were hardware-related (and I also experienced RedSOD, faulty RAID-card).
What is my point then? If Apple will allow third party builders, there will be driver issues. And their image will be tarnished :)
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^Agree again.. a Mac is still a PC.. hardware so to speak..
the only difference is that their hardware is made and assembled according to their exact specifications and Apple has limited users to only upgrade the essentials (like the RAM and HD) else you have to have bought the higher model if you expected more.. (Steve doesnt really like consumers messing around their products).
They use intel chips and NVIDIA VGA cards like PCs do, they only preferred to call "Logicboards" what he have called "Motherboards".. :-D
I kinda felt the default/pre-built off the shelf Toshiba HD and Hynix RAM cheap (just me) so I upgraded them to my preferred ones (Seagate Momentus HD and Kingston DDR2s).
I couldve wish Apple gave the consumers the freedom of choice, specially to upgrade anything in the machine they have already purchased.
And yes I have experienced the spinning beach ball thingie once or twice in the long time I have used the Mac platform.. although I have learned on how to avoid it and keep my Mac running smoothly unlike when I owned windows-based lappys.
What I really like with Apple is the seamless integration among products specially right now when they are venturing to other comsumer electronic products and though they work with windows its still a different experience using them altogether with their Mac counterparts as I have said Apple has made their products within standards thus making them a "one-gut" family of machines.
best example is the iOS 4.++ software for the iPhone platform, Steve Jobs said that "it can be installed" in the first generation iPhone but they decided "not" to give the users that chance as it wont run as "smoothly-as-company-standard" anymore since the first gen iPhone is already an outdated device.. just like when they no longer supported the Power-PC based machines (Powerbooks and iBooks) on the "Snow Leopard" OS.
lets just love them both.. like your traditional/conservative and liberated girlfriends hehehe
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i agree with this.... owning a mac or any expensive apple product is just a status symbol...
ex: why buy an i-pad when you can buy a netbook with much better specs and a fully functioning keyboard...
but then again for a graphic artist like me, a mac is essential because of color matching of monitor and printer
but im a pc user because i can customize my own specs on my computer and build the ultimate machine!
just because people own pcs doesnt mean hindi afford...its because they choose what is BETTER...
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i agree with this.... owning a mac or any expensive apple product is just a status symbol...
ex: why buy an i-pad when you can buy a netbook with much better specs and a fully functioning keyboard...
but then again for a graphic artist like me, a mac is essential because of color matching of monitor and printer
but im a pc user because i can customize my own specs on my computer and build the ultimate machine!
just because people own pcs doesnt mean hindi afford...its because they choose what is BETTER...
that misconception about netbooks and ipad is where I dont agree.. I have used both netbook (Acer Aspire One, MSI Wind, AACPC and HP Mininote etc in different configs) and an iPad but what lacks a netbook that an iPad has is seamless integration of hardware and software.
netbooks run on Atom processors that goes around 1GHZ (dunno if they upgraded it already) with maximum of 2GB RAM (those I used was maxed out at 1GB) in Windows XP/7 and Linux OS, though I must admit they feel like a laptop, they just wont perform like a laptop.. only gives the experience of using one in a cheap and small package.. it doesnt pack that much punch and smooth user experience.
the iPad on the othe hand also runs at 1GHZ speed.. only using Apple's A4 Chip that maximizes performance in low power consumption thus longer battery life with maximum performance.. the A4 chip itself also carries the 256 RAM of the iPad.. imagine that? 256RAM?
the seamless integration of the iPad's hardware and iOS software is the fastest and smoothest user experience I had with mobile devices, as it was made exactly as it would perform and I like working fast with no delays, my iPad never let me down not even one time.
the netbooks are made specifically to carry the Windows and Linux OS with limited concern over performance as its manufacturers will leave it unto the users to either upgrade the RAM.. use it while it is plugged in or dont install much RAM eating softwares in it.. you see these manufacturers built these netbooks without seamless integration of softwares as they are different hardware manufacturers that carry and support the same operating systems.
the OS itself (Windows and Linux) is made to support different hardware without specific benchmarks on optimized performance as they live by selling these softwares to consumers that buy different machines based on their specifications thus these OS has to support ALL OF THEM without taking into consideration the best performance or limiting the support only to machines that will run them at their full capacity.
so in my opinion it is an injustice to compare netbooks to iPads..
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Now if only there was MOTU Digital Performer for PC, I wouldn't have a need for a damn Mac.
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Buhayin ko lang po ang thread na'to.. When it comes po sa durability ng imac or macbook pro? Ok po ba? Thanks in advance po.. :)
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Buhayin ko lang po ang thread na'to.. When it comes po sa durability ng imac or macbook pro? Ok po ba? Thanks in advance po.. :)
as much as PCs break when mishandled as so as macs.. altho when you say durability "over time" let me say that I still use my mid-2009 15" Macbook Pro Unibody.. and it still performs the way it performed nung brand new pa sya.. ang pinagkaiba nga lang ngayon eh imbis na 8 hours battery life eh nasa 3-4 hours na lang.. ok lang naman since batteries are "consumables" and will eventually degrade..
nabunggo ko na sa gilid ng pinto yung MBP ko.. pero nagdent lang yung aluminum case nya, pero aside from that walang ibang problema eventho medyo malakas na bump yun.
as for the iMac I used one sa office, sa apat na taong gamit ko yung lumang iMac dun eh di nasira.. hanggang sa bumili na ulit ng bagong model na iMac.. ayun gumagana pa rin naman yung luma.
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Now if only there was MOTU Digital Performer for PC, I wouldn't have a need for a damn Mac.
ANNDDD
If only there was Logic for PC, I wouldn't have a need for a Mac.
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Another thing thats going on right now is the amount of attention Microsoft is giving to its new Windows 8 OS, and the "Metro UI" that comes with it.. it was previewed many times and it has a great potential in my opinion (being a user-experience designer).
Since wala na si Steve Jobs the path of Apple is bleak, sigurado namang may roadmap na iniwan si Steve na kailangang sundin ng Apple, pero Tim Cook can deviate anytime he likes so I think this will create a huge opportunity that Microsoft and Google can take advantage..
so I think that can become a consideration where you will think "Why you should NEVER get a MAC"
but until then.. I will enjoy the best of both worlds :-D
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Another thing thats going on right now is the amount of attention Microsoft is giving to its new Windows 8 OS, and the "Metro UI" that comes with it.. it was previewed many times and it has a great potential in my opinion (being a user-experience designer).
Since wala na si Steve Jobs the path of Apple is bleak, sigurado namang may roadmap na iniwan si Steve na kailangang sundin ng Apple, pero Tim Cook can deviate anytime he likes so I think this will create a huge opportunity that Microsoft and Google can take advantage..
so I think that can become a consideration where you will think "Why you should NEVER get a MAC"
but until then.. I will enjoy the best of both worlds :-D
I hate Mac but I need Mac.lol
Getting one by the end of the month. Still choosing from an iMac, an MBP, or just upgrade my rig for Hackintosh Pro specs.
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I hate Mac but I need Mac.lol
Getting one by the end of the month. Still choosing from an iMac, an MBP, or just upgrade my rig for Hackintosh Pro specs.
haha in my case I have no choice because its part of my work since I design multi platform user interfaces and our number one priority is the iOS/OSX Platform because of its huge market thus our clients prefer applications/software to be designed on that specific platform.
I say go for the MBP, may lumabas ng bagong MBP-Retina, altho it breaked the $2k mark so masyadong expensive.. and not to mention wala na syang ethernet port and optical drive I guess you can get a maxed out 2012 17-Inch i7 MBP.. yun lang is kung on-the-go ang requirement ng work mo.. pero if its stationary I will go for the iMac.. 8-)
about the Hackintosh.. I havent used one.. siguro after I complete my Mac Mini Rig later this year I will get a gaming PC rig and mag install ako ng SSD dedicated to try hackintosh :-D
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I would also suggest the 17" MBP since meron pa yan locally (wala na sa website).
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@riffscreamer
you can also look for apple fanboys who will sell their MBPs to get the new Ivy Bridge- Powered MBP-Retina to get "early adopter" bragging rights.. :-D
usually kasi maraming mayayamang bobong apple fanbois dito sa pinas na kakabili pa lang ng iDevices nila eh ibebenta na agad pag may lumabas na bago para lang "mauna silang makapag upgrade"..
usually yung mga MBP ng fanbois na yan is yung pinakalamakas, 17" core i7, 16GB DDR3 RAM, 256GB SSD (kahit na facebook lang naman ang ginagawa) at eto pa.. meron pa silang "Apple Care Protection Plan" which means plus 2 years ang warranty nila aside pa sa limited 1 year warranty.. :)
yung iba dyan eh wala pang 1 year yung MBP nila binebenta na at "base price" para lang makipag unahan sa pag upgrade usually yun yung mga hinihintay ko everytime I want to buy a mac.. (twice na akong nakatsamba ng ganun).. so kahit di ako nakabili ng brand new eh 2 years pa rin ang warranty.. maxed out pa 8-)
that is unless ok lang sayo bumili ng 2nd hand.. :wink:
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@riffscreamer
you can also look for apple fanboys who will sell their MBPs to get the new Ivy Bridge- Powered MBP-Retina to get "early adopter" bragging rights.. :-D
usually kasi maraming mayayamang bobong apple fanbois dito sa pinas na kakabili pa lang ng iDevices nila eh ibebenta na agad pag may lumabas na bago para lang "mauna silang makapag upgrade"..
usually yung mga MBP ng fanbois na yan is yung pinakalamakas, 17" core i7, 16GB DDR3 RAM, 256GB SSD (kahit na facebook lang naman ang ginagawa) at eto pa.. meron pa silang "Apple Care Protection Plan" which means plus 2 years ang warranty nila aside pa sa limited 1 year warranty.. :)
yung iba dyan eh wala pang 1 year yung MBP nila binebenta na at "base price" para lang makipag unahan sa pag upgrade usually yun yung mga hinihintay ko everytime I want to buy a mac.. (twice na akong nakatsamba ng ganun).. so kahit di ako nakabili ng brand new eh 2 years pa rin ang warranty.. maxed out pa 8-)
that is unless ok lang sayo bumili ng 2nd hand.. :wink:
I need one for work rin. We use Logic in the studio kasi. And after using Windows my whole life, nagandahan kaagad ako sa Logic kaya gusto ko kumuha ng mac for music stuff lang. Still thinking whether I need the portability of the MBP. Di naman ako yung tipong bibili ng tall latté sa starbak para lang i-display ng ilang oras yung Mac ko. Haha.
And I don't mind buying second hand as long as it works smoothly and is still somewhat presentable.
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been a pc user all my life since my dad bought me my first 386sx clone. bought my first mac (13" mbp) last year as a gift to my wife and now i only use a pc when downloading torrents or at the office.
i disagree with apple products being a status symbol. well they are pricier over any clone but it is money well spent because it made my life easier which is something i've never experienced with any windows based pc. i've never had a reformat moment with my mac, it integrates well with all my needs - music recording, photo and video editing - out of the box.
im not a gamer so i dont really miss my pc anymore.
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I need one for work rin. We use Logic in the studio kasi. And after using Windows my whole life, nagandahan kaagad ako sa Logic kaya gusto ko kumuha ng mac for music stuff lang. Still thinking whether I need the portability of the MBP. Di naman ako yung tipong bibili ng tall latté sa starbak para lang i-display ng ilang oras yung Mac ko. Haha.
And I don't mind buying second hand as long as it works smoothly and is still somewhat presentable.
yep I agree, Logic Pro definitely rocks! :-D
yun nalang gawin mo dude if ever you plan to get an MBP instead of an iMac, look for those people who are selling their MBP's to "upgrade to the Retina MBP".. for sure ibebenta nila at base price yun even with upgrades like solid state drives and maxed out DDR3 RAMs.. much better to look for those with APPs atleast extended warranty..
ako I really plan to complete a Mac Mini Rig by the end of the year :money:
been a pc user all my life since my dad bought me my first 386sx clone. bought my first mac (13" mbp) last year as a gift to my wife and now i only use a pc when downloading torrents or at the office.
i disagree with apple products being a status symbol. well they are pricier over any clone but it is money well spent because it made my life easier which is something i've never experienced with any windows based pc. i've never had a reformat moment with my mac, it integrates well with all my needs - music recording, photo and video editing - out of the box.
im not a gamer so i dont really miss my pc anymore.
yep.. bang for every buck, pure engineering beauty talaga ang Mac even its innards are meticulously designed to look good.. kahit na wala namang makakakita..
and yes.. most gamers wont enjoy Macs.. since its a "multimedia" machine that will be enjoyed more by musicians, designers, photographers, videographers and writers 8-)
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My other option is to go hackintosh. Even picked out the recommended build parts at tonymacx86. I just need to whether go mbp or go hack. Haha!
Pinaka-concern ko kasi is yung longevity ng mbp. I know they're durable machines pero from what I've read and seen from friends, macs aren't very future proof. To get better specs, you'll have to buy a new one. Whereas if I go hack, I can just easily swap out parts that I want to upgrade. And I read that the new Retina MBPs have the ram sticks soldered onto the board. Pano kung bigla mo maisipan mag-upgrade ng RAM with aftermarket models? P10k for upgrading an 8GB RAM mbp to 16GB RAM is ridiculous.
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My other option is to go hackintosh. Even picked out the recommended build parts at tonymacx86. I just need to whether go mbp or go hack. Haha!
Pinaka-concern ko kasi is yung longevity ng mbp. I know they're durable machines pero from what I've read and seen from friends, macs aren't very future proof. To get better specs, you'll have to buy a new one. Whereas if I go hack, I can just easily swap out parts that I want to upgrade. And I read that the new Retina MBPs have the ram sticks soldered onto the board. Pano kung bigla mo maisipan mag-upgrade ng RAM with aftermarket models? P10k for upgrading an 8GB RAM mbp to 16GB RAM is ridiculous.
That's the only thing about Apple.. they dont really want their users to thinker around too much with their products.. kahit na binili mo pa.. and yes, right now the Retina MBP cannot be upgraded by the user, RAM and Battery are soldered to the logic board, and the SSD is "proprietary" you cannot just replaced it with 3rd party SSD's even those ones from Seagate or WD..
Since Apple already benchmarked the base spec Retina MBP to perform up par even past the last maxed out 17 inch Core i7 MBP, thus they want to make users choose either to settle to the already powerful base spec or maxed it out on purchase if you think you "will need more punch".. I think the reason behind here is that Apple is a firm believer that "Users dont know what they wanted" unless "you tell them"..
And about "future proofing" all machines are indeed bound to get obsolete.. altho you have a valid point that in PCs you can change part everytime a new specs is benchmarked past your current rig setup.. pero syempre you are bound to replace the entire rig after a while.. say 2-3 years like the motherboard itself, as buying a new Video Card to play the latest games will require you to upgrade your RAM too.. but suddenly mapapansin mo required pala nung bagong Video Card na yun yung latest motherboard or lates processor will eventually make you decide to replace the whole thing nalang.. either way both machines (Mac and PC) are neither future proof.. sa Mac pa nga will survive the 3 years mark na nagagamit mo pa rin yung machine smoothly even with new softwares released.. unlike sa PC na optimized yung software sa bagong labas na AGP card will make sure upgrade immediately, whereas in mac the software developers are bound to support the "generation" of machines released in the number of years, say they need to support all "Intel-Based Sta Rosa to Ivy Bridge Chipset" (late-2008 to Present), kumbaga yun ang benchmark to run that software smoothly, any chipset before that eh "makupad na".
So I guess its relatively varied, MBP's are still good to have even after past its 2nd year mark, kaya lang naman nagkakaugaga mag upgrade yung mga tao eh its either "fanbois" sila or "maraming pera" or "bragging rights" ika nga, kahit na 80% naman sa kanila eh di kailangan yung bagong specs, nor nagagamit nila sa trabaho nila yung additional boost.. tamang yabang lang yung iba dun, makakapag install ka pa rin nga ng softwares ngayon sa mid 2007 polycarbonate macbook white eh.. yun nga lang mapapansin mo na yung sluggishness.. pero pwede pa rin, magagamit mo pa rin. :wink:
Pero im really interested sa Hackintosh.. kasi gamer din ako, I cant live without a PC rig at home.. and since I plan to build a Mac Mini Rig by the end of the year I might get a new PC CPU to go with my Mac Mini.. ill be maxing out the available PC components by then..
you might want to share yung experience mo using a hackintosh? kasi frankly I havent used one :-D
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isa lang reason ko.. i dont have that kind of money..
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isa lang reason ko.. i dont have that kind of money..
yep.. macs are really fabulously expensive.. :cry:
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And about "future proofing" all machines are indeed bound to get obsolete.. altho you have a valid point that in PCs you can change part everytime a new specs is benchmarked past your current rig setup.. pero syempre you are bound to replace the entire rig after a while.. say 2-3 years like the motherboard itself, as buying a new Video Card to play the latest games will require you to upgrade your RAM too.. but suddenly mapapansin mo required pala nung bagong Video Card na yun yung latest motherboard or lates processor will eventually make you decide to replace the whole thing nalang.. either way both machines (Mac and PC) are neither future proof.. sa Mac pa nga will survive the 3 years mark na nagagamit mo pa rin yung machine smoothly even with new softwares released.. unlike sa PC na optimized yung software sa bagong labas na AGP card will make sure upgrade immediately, whereas in mac the software developers are bound to support the "generation" of machines released in the number of years, say they need to support all "Intel-Based Sta Rosa to Ivy Bridge Chipset" (late-2008 to Present), kumbaga yun ang benchmark to run that software smoothly, any chipset before that eh "makupad na".
Not true. I have friends who are still using their 8800GT cards and are still kicking. I myself have had my mid-high end rig for 2-3 years now and it's still going strong. The only "upgrade" I've made so far is add two more sticks of RAM. I can still run most graphics intensive games like BF3 and CPU intensive games such as ARMA 2 at high settings. If I wasn't planning on going hackintosh, the only upgrade I would see myself making would be upgrading my videocard. Definitely a lot less than getting a new Mac.
Pero im really interested sa Hackintosh.. kasi gamer din ako, I cant live without a PC rig at home.. and since I plan to build a Mac Mini Rig by the end of the year I might get a new PC CPU to go with my Mac Mini.. ill be maxing out the available PC components by then..
you might want to share yung experience mo using a hackintosh? kasi frankly I havent used one :-D
I haven't tried using a hack but I've seen recording studios with hackintosh setups running PT and Logic.
You can check ideal builds here:
http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/search/label/CustoMac
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Not true. I have friends who are still using their 8800GT cards and are still kicking. I myself have had my mid-high end rig for 2-3 years now and it's still going strong. The only "upgrade" I've made so far is add two more sticks of RAM. I can still run most graphics intensive games like BF3 and CPU intensive games such as ARMA 2 at high settings. If I wasn't planning on going hackintosh, the only upgrade I would see myself making would be upgrading my videocard. Definitely a lot less than getting a new Mac.
hmmm in my case kasi ganun ang nangyari, after 2 years I end up practically buying a new CPU since upgrading the components has another component pre-requesite.. I guess because I didnt get the high end parts kaya madali naluma.. but in any case parehas lang naman pala sila ng longevity ng Mac when it comes to supporting softwares.. :-D
I haven't tried using a hack but I've seen recording studios with hackintosh setups running PT and Logic.
You can check ideal builds here:
http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/search/label/CustoMac
nice! nandito na pala lahat ng guide.. pati kung anog specific hardware ang bibilhin mo.. ayos! :-D
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Recording and media = MAC
Gaming = of course not a MAC..
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wala akong mac pero yung barkada ko merong 2 cpu ng mga at tinanong ko, bakit hindi niyo ginagamit yan?
sagot niya lang maraming hindi compatible na applications, glitches etc. gamit lang daw nila for editing.
kung meron ako 500,000 pesos siguro PC parin ako.
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kung meron ako 500,000 pesos siguro PC parin ako.
Thats already a huge amount of money.. in my case if I have 500,000 pesos ill buy a maxed out Mac and PC Rig tapos yung sukli ipapang party ko :-D
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Planning to get the MBP soon..
PC user but been using MBP from a friend and it is really awesome. Pero I'll still keep my PC laptop for other reasons...(torrents) HAHAHAH
At first I'm planning to buy the 2012 MBP 13" dual core I7 which is 1499 + NYC tax = $1750. Then checked out their refurbished section. They have 15" Late 2011 MBP Quad core I7 for almost the same price. then changed my mind and will go with the refurbished one :) Will pick up next week :)
13" first plan because of the portability.. but dang that 15" specs is irresistible haha
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May nabasa ako na yung mga pinakamalulupit na hackers Mac daw ang gamit.
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In my opinion anybody can use MAC nasagagamit lang yan kong saan sya magiging mas comfortable.
Pag windows kasi abot kaya lalo na para sa mga peso earner.
MAC kasi design yan mostly for US, UK etc yong malalaki currency kaya para sa atin mahal ang datin dahil dollar ang price ng parts pero kong dollar earner ka eh para lang din peso sa iyo yan.
Pero kong peso earner kalang na ordinary employee na katulad sa karamihan I dont think so tatangkilikin yan ng karamihan dahil sobrang mahal pag sa peso ang price.
Tsaka wag ka magbibiro sa parts nyan pag nasiraan ka nyan sobrang mahal ma shoshocked ka .... :-o
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Just got my MBP 2 days ago. Logic Pro kills.
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Ang Generic pwedeng gawing mac yan hehehehe.... hackintosh ang tawag , research research lang meron yan. No need to buy that very expensive dollar price macintosh para sa mga namumulot lang ng pera yan.
May mga second hand din kayo mabibili na MAC na murang mura nalang sa ebay.com , make sure yong mura nalang ang price + shipping kasi pag nag loko narin yan baka hindi nyo na maipagawa sa mahal ng isisingil sa inyo lalo na sa pinas.
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got my MAC this week, planning to get one long ago pa. I think this platform is very good investment if you're more into graphics, work ko kasi usually involves photo and video editing. not to mention layouts pa minsan. di pa ako ganun ka sanay kasi its a big leap from Windows to MAC and I still use my windows laptop everytime I play games or music. hahaha. Sana ma full adapt na ako sa mac before the end of the year :) well it's kinda OT ha, pero guys what applications would you recommend that is best for MAC? :) thanks a lot.
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i have to say, wow. i knew Macs were expensive before, but dammmn this is just wrong.
SOURCE (http://www.techolo.com/2010/10/why-you-should-never-get-mac-according.html)
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oh wow. i have a bunch of those pics lying around on my hard drive. they're older than the internet, too.
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im at a loss, i never understood why people would buy overpriced macs for workstations.
Lahat ng na-meet kong naka mac sinasabi nila mas mabilis daw sa adobe. LOL
For 50k pesos you could either get:
1. This crappy iMac with a small monitor
i5 2.5GHz quadcore
AMD Radeon HD 6750M
500GB Hard Drive
4GB DDR3
21.5" LED monitor
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MC309LL-21-5-Inch-Desktop-VERSION/dp/B004YKXGIK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342807057&sr=8-1&keywords=mac+desktop
2. this pre-built PC with faster parts
i7 3770k 3.5GHz
AMD Radeon HD 7750
8GB DDR3
1TB HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229318
$949 ang total ng cpu so may sukli na $220 or 9000 pesos pambili ng 22" na LED
Obviously no match ang Mac pagnag-unahan sa rendering time gamit ang adobe premiere.
Lalo na kung ang buyer mismo ang magbubuo imbes na bumili ng pre-built PC.
I could build a 4.5Ghz i7 3770k with triple monitors for a 50k budget
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altho I still have a PC all I can say about your query is.. "Seamless Integration of Hardware and Software"..
if you'l just come to understand that.. that is the reason why some of us would rather spend 50k for an iMac rather than a faster-specd PC.. or you can read what I wrote about the iPad vs Netbooks (page 1).. that will explain well what I mean.
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I already understand why people buy macs, nawala lang sa isip ko.
but I remembered after reading your post. Thanks for reminding me.
People buy macs simply because they dont know that a PC is faster.
I feel content that i know someone out there is waiting for an hour for his mac to render a 5 minute HD video, when a 5.0 ghz PC can do it in a few seconds.
Its like mac is a Rolls Royce, it looks sleek and elegant, but runs like a turtle.
PC is like a honda, cheap but can be modified to get 0-60 in 2 seconds
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I already understand why people buy macs, nawala lang sa isip ko.
but I remembered after reading your post. Thanks for reminding me.
People buy macs simply because they dont know that a PC is faster.
I feel content that i know someone out there is waiting for an hour for his mac to render a 5 minute HD video, when a 5.0 ghz PC can do it in a few seconds.
Its like mac is a Rolls Royce, it looks sleek and elegant, but runs like a turtle.
PC is like a honda, cheap but can be modified to get 0-60 in 2 seconds
pcs are always the best. ang appeal lang kasi ng macs ay wireless devices, tapos integrated na ang monitor at pc unit. mas organized at less cluttering sa workspace. cumbersome kasi ang malalaking tore sa desk space. tapos ang may design lang na ganito na intergated (well afaik) ay ang hp, and hps are generally not known for reliability and build quality (yung envy series na mac design copy ay may overheating issues, sayang competitive sana sa macbook pros)
ps. bro ambilis namang honda niyan, haha. daig pa ang v6 na lambo, eh mas malakas pa ang torque ng mag toyota sa experience ko, hehe.
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People buy macs simply because they dont know that a PC is faster.
I feel content that i know someone out there is waiting for an hour for his mac to render a 5 minute HD video, when a 5.0 ghz PC can do it in a few seconds.
People buy macs simply because they dont know that a PC is faster.
actually speed is relative to the machine, ofcourse a higher specd PC will perform faster than a base-specd mac, same as a flagship mac will smoke a base-specd PC.. so I believe the argument here is about the "price" but not the "speed" as both are machines benchmarked to perform accordingly to its intended use. :wink:
thus if we are going to talk about the reason why base specd macs are as expensive as a higher specd PC then the answer is already in page 1.. so I guess its really unnecessary to brand mac buyers as "those who dont know that PC's are faster". :-D
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Its like mac is a Rolls Royce, it looks sleek and elegant, but runs like a turtle.
PC is like a honda, cheap but can be modified to get 0-60 in 2 seconds
Medyo nabigla rin nga ako sa sample nya. :-o
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The main thing with Apple is that they like to charge a premium for their devices. When you get a mac, you're not just paying for the device. You're also paying for the "exclusivity" it entails (seriously, 10k for 16GB of RAM?). For less than half the price of the Mac Pro, you can build a similar spec'ed PC. Anong difference nila? You get the Mac OS and all the other MAC OS exclusive apps.
Being a Windows user ever since, and finally getting my own Mac(a 15" MBP), I could say na Mac definitely has its advantages; for me at least. There are tons of useful apps from the App Store. Logic Pro is an AWESOME app for musicians. Coming from Pro Tools, I found Logic Pro to be better and more intuitive than PT. And that's coming from someone who has used PT for 2 years and Logic for barely 2 months. My MBP also kills my PC when it comes to boot up speeds. Take note that my PC has a 7200RPM HDD while my MBP has a 5400RPM HDD. It takes twice the time for the PC to completely bootup.
That said, I don't think I'll ever switch to using a Mac permanently. I love playing games too much. :)
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The main thing with Apple is that they like to charge a premium for their devices. When you get a mac, you're not just paying for the device. You're also paying for the "exclusivity" it entails (seriously, 10k for 16GB of RAM?). For less than half the price of the Mac Pro, you can build a similar spec'ed PC. Anong difference nila? You get the Mac OS and all the other MAC OS exclusive apps.
Being a Windows user ever since, and finally getting my own Mac(a 15" MBP), I could say na Mac definitely has its advantages; for me at least. There are tons of useful apps from the App Store. Logic Pro is an AWESOME app for musicians. Coming from Pro Tools, I found Logic Pro to be better and more intuitive than PT. And that's coming from someone who has used PT for 2 years and Logic for barely 2 months. My MBP also kills my PC when it comes to boot up speeds. Take note that my PC has a 7200RPM HDD while my MBP has a 5400RPM HDD. It takes twice the time for the PC to completely bootup.
That said, I don't think I'll ever switch to using a Mac permanently. I love playing games too much. :)
well said, the mac is a multimedia tool.. that even a beginner would intuitively learn each application almost after using it.. and thats what apple products surpass that others "starts to learn" just now.. "User Experience"
as a User Experience Designer I tend to study products that not only surpass others in quality, but also has an edge on the experience it gives me by using it.. say my PC is pretty much more powerful than my MBP but why do I always make a point to work on my MBP than in my PC? its because my MBP gives me a superb user experience that makes me enjoy doing my job more than I can get when I use my PC..
Oh yeah.. I also love playing games.. thats why I make it also a point to have a PC Desktop around.. :-D
I love my PC.. I also love my Mac.. its like 2 girlfriends.. one that gives me what I need.. and the other one that also gives me what I need but at the same time also gives me.. "what I want". :mrgreen:
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actually speed is relative to the machine, ofcourse a higher specd PC will perform faster than a base-specd mac, same as a flagship mac will smoke a base-specd PC.. so I believe the argument here is about the "price" but not the "speed" as both are machines benchmarked to perform accordingly to its intended use. :wink:
thus if we are going to talk about the reason why base specd macs are as expensive as a higher specd PC then the answer is already in page 1.. so I guess its really unnecessary to brand mac buyers as "those who dont know that PC's are faster". :-D
My argument is about both Price and Performance.
Any PC user can buy a cpu for less than 20k, clock it to 5 Ghz, and easily smoke the fastest mac in the same year/generation.
My 8k worth PC can wipe the floor with the same generation Mac that sported Core2duos :lol:
If I were to do the same thing this year, I can just buy an i5 2500k for 8k pesos again, a good board for about 4k pesos and clock it to 5 Ghz with the total cost of only 12k
The total cost of my rig, excluding the 3 monitors and external videocard is about 8k
2,000 = unlock motherboard with onboard video
3,500 = AMD Athlon unlocked to Phenom B55 Quadcore
1,000 = 4GB DDR3 1333
1,300 = Coolermaster Hyper212 heatsink
0.000 = I already have harddrives
0.000 = I already have a case
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Total = 7,800
(http://s16.postimage.org/y06yrtuv9/Photo0719.jpg)
Some examples current generation (year2012) PCs
AMD FX 8150 running at 8 Ghz
(http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/2075306.png)
Intel i5 running at 7 Ghz
(http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1371848.png)
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Guys asking about the honda comparison.
Manood po kayo minsan ng NOPI drag race. Puro 6 seconds sila sa quartermile.
Halos maiwan ang itlog ng driver pag nakita nyo yung mga videos. May nakita kasi akong 6 second honda civic dun kaya yun ang naisip ko haha
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My argument is about both Price and Performance.
Any PC user can buy a cpu for less than 20k, clock it to 5 Ghz, and easily smoke the fasted mac out there.
Take note that my 8k PC can wipe the floor with the same generation Mac that sported Core2duos :lol:
The total cost of my rig, excluding the 3 monitors and videocard is about 8k
2,000 = unlock motherboard
3,500 = AMD Athlon X3 unlocked to Phenom B55 Quadcore
1,000 = 4GB DDR3 1333
1,300 = Coolermaster Hyper212 heatsink
0.000 = I already have harddrives
0.000 = I already have a case
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Total = 7,800
(http://s16.postimage.org/y06yrtuv9/Photo0719.jpg)
Some examples of very fast PCs:
AMD FX 8150 running at 8 Ghz
(http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/2075306.png)
Intel i5 running at 7 Ghz
(http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/1371848.png)
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Guys asking about the honda comparison.
Manood po kayo minsan ng NOPI drag race. Puro 6 seconds sila sa quartermile.
Halos maiwan ang itlog ng driver pag nakita nyo yung mga videos. May nakita kasi akong 6 second honda civic dun kaya yun ang naisip ko haha
dude its really funny, you dont need to show me your rig as I know exactly what you are talking about because Im a PC user too.. the problem is yung sinasabi ko kasi ang di mo naiintindihan.. thats why I said sa "price" lang talaga nagkakatalo since "speed" is relative to a machines "intended" use.. a Mac is not a gaming rig.. its a multimedia rig thats why I said I still love the PC as I love games.. and I will enjoy games more in a Windows PC than a Mac..
A Mac doesnt needed to be overclocked or breach a certain gigahertz to perform a task, because like what im trying to make you understand is the "Seamless Integration of Hardware and Software".. Macs are built to perform optimally on all possible task and it doesnt need that extra kick unless you are a "power user" thats why they have a "base, mid and flagship model"..
totoo a powerful PC rig is cheaper than a mac.. pero it doesnt have that "seamless integration of hardware and software" na sinasabi ko.. kaya nga diba I suggest that you find time to read about it muna para maintindihan mo yung sinasabi ko..
I know PCs.. I used one ever since I had my first DX 486 IBM Compatible.. so alam ko yung sinasabi mo.. pero ang issue kasi dito ayaw mo intindihin yung explanation ko about its difference sa mac.. we not need to debate about speeds.. as relative nga kasi yan eh..
oh another thing.. if PC's have "Seamless Integration of Hardware and Software" hindi na kailangan pang i-overclock yun.. :wink:
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sabi mo nga speed is relative to machines.
So if we test the exact same machine that will both be used for Video editing with adobe premiere.
Adobe premiere is designed for multi platforms so there are no advantages.
i7 3770k mac (you get stuck with your stock speed because you are a mac)
i7 3770k windows/linux (clocked to 5 Ghz)
I wonder who will render videos faster with premiere.
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Conclusion:
My argument:
PC is better because it can run the same program faster
Your argument:
Mac is better because it can run the program that was exclusively designed for it.
Which is the same as Playstation is better because it has god of war, xbox doesnt have god of war.
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sabi mo nga speed is relative to machines.
So if we test the exact same machine that will both be used for Video editing with adobe premiere.
Adobe premiere is designed for multi platforms so there are no advantages.
i7 3770k mac (you get stuck with your stock speed because you are a mac)
i7 3770k windows/linux (clocked to 5 Ghz)
I wonder who will render videos faster with premiere.
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Conclusion:
My argument:
PC is better because it can run the same program faster
Your argument:
Mac is better because it can run the program that was exclusively designed for it.
Which is the same as Playstation is better because it has god of war, xbox doesnt have god of war.
hahah ironic dude because I thought of that very same thing before.. anyways you will eventually learn what I learned in time.
I love the PC, but like what I said in page 1 it doesnt do justice to compare it to the Mac.. specially when we are going to argue about "speed", "performance" and eventually "price".. both machines have their advantages and disadvantages.. pero if we are going to limit our perspective being the typical "user" than the "architect" of the machine (PC and Mac) we will have our own personal opinions about it, and will never understand the reason why the PC is this and that.. or why the Mac is so expensive being an average machine..
lets just be thankful nalang that the PC is cheaper than a Mac.. atleast even the minimum-wage earner juan can enjoy having a computer. :-D
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siguro nasa gagamit lang talaga , sa case ko kasi gusto ko rin magkaroon ng imac for the purpose of my work, hindi naman necessary at requirement sa trabaho pero why not to try it... pero since cannot aqfford dahil as i've said before dollar pricing curreny kasi nila ni base kadalasan talaga market ng mgaq yan malalaki US at UK kaya ganyan mahal. kong dollar eraner ka naman ang sweldo eh kayang kaya mo yan. pero kong si pedro ay peso medyo mag-aalanganin...normal yon.
lalo na ngayon sa hirap ng buhay sayang yong pera pwede pang paggamitan yong sobra sa ibang mahalagang bagay na kailangan... PC for me as of the moment is enough.
mga cliente ko lulufet ng mac nyon lalake US, UK pa galing pero i've i said before they can afford because they are dollar earner...its easy for them.
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siguro nasa gagamit lang talaga , sa case ko kasi gusto ko rin magkaroon ng imac for the purpose of my work, hindi naman necessary at requirement sa trabaho pero why not to try it... pero since cannot aqfford dahil as i've said before dollar pricing curreny kasi nila ni base kadalasan talaga market ng mgaq yan malalaki US at UK kaya ganyan mahal. kong dollar eraner ka naman ang sweldo eh kayang kaya mo yan. pero kong si pedro ay peso medyo mag-aalanganin...normal yon.
lalo na ngayon sa hirap ng buhay sayang yong pera pwede pang paggamitan yong sobra sa ibang mahalagang bagay na kailangan... PC for me as of the moment is enough.
mga cliente ko lulufet ng mac nyon lalake US, UK pa galing pero i've i said before they can afford because they are dollar earner...its easy for them.
yep thats true.. ako kasi I use both eh (mas matagal pa nga ako gumamit ng PC eh).. pero I dont have prejudices on the two machines or the people who chose to use them or the other way around kasi its unfair eh..
ako both on our house and office I use Mac and PC what the other cant do the other can, vice versa, it makes a good team.. our team app developer use the PC when he develops "Web-Based Applications, JQuery etc" and when he creates "Native Applications" he switch to the Mac.. something like that.. so I really think its really uncalled for to debate about which is faster.. better.. cooler. :-(
presyo siguro pwede pa.. :-D
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Ayos tong thread na to ah. Haha. I have a macbook pro. And I find my mac better than those typical laptops. I have used MSI, Asus, HP, Acer and Dell and I can say that my current Macbook is better.
*IMHO, you buy what you can afford, you buy what you want, you don't need others' comments to buy what you think you deserve. :)
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Ayos tong thread na to ah. Haha. I have a macbook pro. And I find my mac better than those typical laptops. I have used MSI, Asus, HP, Acer and Dell and I can say that my current Macbook is better.
*IMHO, you buy what you can afford, you buy what you want, you don't need others' comments to buy what you think you deserve. :)
yep.. since if you can afford it then nobody can say sh*t about it when you buy one..
altho totoo din naman na sa price ng mac eh may malupet na PC ka ng pwedeng bilhin.. pero thats not the case to people who wanted the "experience" using a mac.. and navigating thru the Mac OS X.. and the feel of the "seamless integration".. yung ang forte ng Mac eh, di lang basta status symbol..
dig this..
My bro has a Sony Vaio Laptop with Windows 7
I have a Macbook Pro with Snow Leopard
our mom use an AMD Desktop PC with Windows XP for her usuall web-browsing and facebook chores..
nasira yung PC ng ermats namin.. eh since wala pa ako extra budget di ko pa mapaayos or makabili ng bago.. so ang ginawa namin is yung laptop muna ng kapatid ko ginamit nya to browse the net and do facebook.. one night wala yung bro ko so yung Macbook ko ang ginamit nya.. FIRST TIME gagamit ng Mac ang nanay ko so di nya kabisado.. tinuro ko lang yung basics sa kanya.. after 1 hour yata alam na nya gamitin.
the following night pag uwi ko nagmamadali yung nanay ko makigamit ng laptop para makapag internet sya kasi di pa daw sya nakakapag internet the whole day.. tanong ko "bakit di mo gamitin yung vaio laptop?"
sagot nya: "Eh mas madali kasi gamitin yang laptop mo eh"
thats to a point of view of a "middle-aged non-techie mother" who used windows pc all her life.. mas ginusto pa nya wag na muna mag internet buong araw kesa gamitin yung laptop ng utol ko.. I dunno if di lang sya sanay sa trackpad ng vaio or baka pag may mouse mas madali.. pero I see my mom use my laptop the same way as I do.. "one hand navigation" using the multi-touch trackpad (unless magta-type ka).
di nga nya pinapansin yung magic mouse sa tabi eh.. sabi pa nya: "ah mouse ba yan?"
:-D :-D
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I bought my first Mac (MBPro 13) in 2009. No issues until now. I upgraded to OSX Lion na, the best pa rin. Sobrang astig. I bought an iMac last year... Perhaps I'll get an MBP 15 this year too because of the Retina display.
Tama yung nag-post sa taas. Buy what you can afford. For me, sobrang astig ang Macs. I will never go back to PCs.
I'm posting this using an iMac which has been ON for 5 days now. Hindi nagha-hang. A total workhorse.
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2 weeks into having a mac. Wala na. Pang games nalang talaga yung PC ko sa bahay. Haha. School, work, email, yung MBP na ginagamit ko.
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At the risk of being called makulit, I'll say it again; Macs are PCs (or Mac OS-powered PCs if you want to separate yourself from the dirty masses). :-D
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At the risk of being called makulit, I'll say it again; Macs are PCs (or Mac OS-powered PCs if you want to separate yourself from the dirty masses). :-D
yep.. nasanay nalang siguro tayo sa terminologies.. but to be fair with apple, their hardware is "designed by them" to the exact specifications of their Mac OS X software..
unlike windows which is designed to "run and support multiple hardware" (regardless of the manufacturer) with regards to 3rd party parts "specifications" and "optimizations" they allow "plugins" and "drivers" to be downloaded and installed into their software to run it.
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We have strayed away from the topic. Let us remind ourselves that we are talking about a Mac, a desktop computer, not their mobile Macbooks.
Qroon is right, Macbook prices ARE competitive, not overpriced at all; which is sadly in contrast with their desktop counterparts.
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We have strayed away from the topic. Let us remind ourselves that we are talking about a Mac, a desktop computer, not their mobile Macbooks.
Qroon is right, Macbook prices ARE competitive, not overpriced at all; which is sadly in contrast with their desktop counterparts.
Yeah I myself will be caught dead buying that exagerrated Mac Pro..
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Actually, I think that their iMacs are more practical to buy. I have one.
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Yeah I myself will be caught dead buying that exagerrated Mac Pro..
I'd rather go hackintosh than get a Mac Pro.
Actually, I think that their iMacs are more practical to buy. I have one.
I was actually choosing between the iMac and the MBP before ultimately choosing the MBP. I figured I might need the portability of the MBP that's why I got it.
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i dont know guys, i still think Macs are boring. they call it simple, elegant, stylish and user friendly - i call it boring.
i have used macbooks and imacs.ive used those so called 'programs' that are specifically designed to work seamlessly on macs and they indeed work great.but i dont find the chaos that im used to having whenever i use pcs and linux based desktops.being a black coffee type of guy, its like someone put coffeemate on my coffee and the smoothness is making me puk3.
and im ready for whatever stone youre gonna throw at me. at least ive stated my opinion.
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i dont know guys, i still think Macs are boring. they call it simple, elegant, stylish and user friendly - i call it boring.
i have used macbooks and imacs.ive used those so called 'programs' that are specifically designed to work seamlessly on macs and they indeed work great.but i dont find the chaos that im used to having whenever i use pcs and linux based desktops.being a black coffee type of guy, its like someone put coffeemate on my coffee and the smoothness is making me puk3.
and im ready for whatever stone youre gonna throw at me. at least ive stated my opinion.
Well, boring nga talaga sya. Helps boost my productivity though. Haha!
Until Logic Pro is available for Windows, which is malabo mangyari since Logic is developed by Apple, I'll be using both Macs and PCs.
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i dont know guys, i still think Macs are boring. they call it simple, elegant, stylish and user friendly - i call it boring.
i have used macbooks and imacs.ive used those so called 'programs' that are specifically designed to work seamlessly on macs and they indeed work great.but i dont find the chaos that im used to having whenever i use pcs and linux based desktops.being a black coffee type of guy, its like someone put coffeemate on my coffee and the smoothness is making me puk3.
and im ready for whatever stone youre gonna throw at me. at least ive stated my opinion.
I wont throw any stones at you dude heheh as im a windows user myself.. atleast you dont have any prejudices upon "mac users" but simply aired your opinion about your "user experience" using macs..
:-D :-D
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Tama. No debate. Love what you can afford.
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I get a fair amount of beachballs with the macs in the office, and these are Protools macs. A mac won't tell you what's wrong with it. Good thing I'm very familiar with pc hardware. If there's one thing, the signs are the same.
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Basta ako, very happy. The Macbook Pro I bought in 2009 is still alive! Walang issues. Never ako nag-reformat, never nag-hang kahit isang linggo nang bukas, never nagka-virus, walang sira except that the batteries last for 2 hours na lang. Same with my 2011 iMac. I'm planning to buy an MBP 15" to use for gigs dahil sa sobrang pagkakatuwa ko bilang Mac user. Sa Mac, never magbu-bluescreen kung maingat ka. If I had the money, I'm gonna buy a MacPro. Super reliable editing machine. Yung video editor ko recently got herself a new Macbook Pro. Dahil labis siyang ipinahiya sa kliyente niya ng kaniyang 2012 updated na superpowerful PC na combination ng matataas na hardware specs. Nag-crash sa kalagitnaan ng isang project. Three full days of work, naibasura.
Kung browse-browse lang at Word processing lang naman, OK na ang PC. Pero kung computer-based ang trabaho mo at kailangan mo talaga ng workhorse (video production or music production or graphics), mag-Mac ka. Sa first purchase mo lang ang mahal. Hindi or madalang niya papasakitin ang ulo mo. And sobrang bilis niya, mag-shutdown. Wala yung inip factor pag PC nag gamit mo. Hehe.
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Sa Mac, never magbu-bluescreen kung maingat ka.
Because you never get bluescreens with a mac, you get beachballs and this can be infuriating to diagnose.
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Kung browse-browse lang at Word processing lang naman, OK na ang PC. Pero kung computer-based ang trabaho mo at kailangan mo talaga ng workhorse (video production or music production or graphics), mag-Mac ka.
Really depends on your field. For video, music, and graphics, you can probably do well with a Macbook. For most mainstream 3D applications, it's very hard to use a Mac (or more specifically, Apple OS).
But again, this really isn't really about Apple in general, but about the Mac Pro.
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Th MacPro is a very reliable workhorse. It's worth the price. The biggest music and video prodhouses in the country use MacPros. Even Diwa de Leon has one in his home studio.
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Th MacPro is a very reliable workhorse. It's worth the price. The biggest music and video prodhouses in the country use MacPros. Even Diwa de Leon has one in his home studio.
Sure, if you can afford it and are willing to pay double the price of its counterpart, by all means, go for it.
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Well, boring nga talaga sya. Helps boost my productivity though. Haha!
i agree. i did say it runs the programs smoothly right? the macbook i used ran 3 heavy programs(PS, Illustrator and a Safari with 8 deviant art tabs) and i did not experience any lags kahit scrolling lang ng browser.im sure may idea na kayo how it fared nung sa iMac ko na ginamit yan.was very tempted to explore the hardware but the owner doesnt want me to hehehe.
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Because you never get bluescreens with a mac, you get beachballs and this can be infuriating to diagnose.
This. :)
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And regarding viruses, my HP Pavilion desktops that run windows 7 haven't had viruses since we got 'em (2009/10). And we haven't reformatted 'em as well. My company-issued laptop is performing well too (Lenovo Thinkpad). And I work in the I.T. field. Work horse? I have 4-6 Linux VMs running to test configs and other new technologies.
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Don't be complacent that Apple PCs/Laptops are that secure. There are new exploits coming out.
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pwede nyo namang ma experience ang mac kahit naka windows pc or laptop kayo. check nyo lang kung compatible yung hardware ng desktop nyo or yung laptop for which osx version you wanna install here: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
tapos yung osx installation mismo dito: http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/index.php?showforum=137
marami pang sites dedicated to osx86 (hackintosh) pero di ko na alam kung active pa like osx86project. you can get the osx installers from torrents.
i was a big fan of hackintosh way back nung tiger pa lang hanggang leopard lang. medyo huminto na ko kasi medyo busy na sa ibang bagay. i had a perfectly running leopard on my pc (gigabyte p35 ds4 mobo) using the vanilla leo disc (unmodified) using an hfs partition. might try the newer flavors (lion & mountain lion) if i have the time.
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overrated talaga ng MAC, i could buy a super fast gaming PC sa range na yon.
grabe lang talaga ang hype whenever na maglalabas sila ng bagong products.
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macs are pretty. lol :-D
they're overrated, pusang-amang overpriced.
however right now i'm torn between a macbook pro and alienware. obviously, the alienware has better specs for the price. the only problem? it's clunky as hell.
the only good thing about the macs is the portability. i've also looked for other notebooks with a similar design, however they were sub-par - heating issues, poor hardware, unreliable. i figured i'd be better off with alienware instead, because they got the best specs in comparison to other clunky laptops.
man, i wish alienware would make their notebooks a little thinner.
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why not. :-D
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Really depends on your field. For video, music, and graphics, you can probably do well with a Macbook. For most mainstream 3D applications, it's very hard to use a Mac (or more specifically, Apple OS).
But again, this really isn't really about Apple in general, but about the Mac Pro.
Hey. There's Maya and Cinema 4D for Mac. :)
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I bought a PC for its flexibility. 3 or 5 years from now, I'll be replacing it with faster parts, rather than buying a whole new different system if I opted for a Mac.