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The Music Forums => The Rock Music Board => Topic started by: wickerz on February 11, 2006, 03:54:51 PM
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like what you've read are you going to perform free, like in school events or even for charity?????? :idea:
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i would! but it depends... 'cause like... if it's an event to support the kkk i wouldn't! but if it was some random free concert in the middle of the street... hell yeah, motherf*ckers! /james hetfield
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hahahaha - it is inevitable man. try coaxing your band's payment out of a drunk - or even worse - absent promoter! you can't take it personally and just chalk it up to how things might turn out on the playing circuit, such things are unforeseen.
but if you have a choice? why not get paid a bit? at the least, a meal, right?
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lagi, kahit isang baso ng tubig lang wala pa
yan ang buhay ng mga underground na banda
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First of all, it's "you're" not "your"
Basta may chikcks! HAHA
Pero seriously, why not?
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I will play for free beer.
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lagi, kahit isang baso ng tubig lang wala pa
yan ang buhay ng mga underground na banda
oo nga, mahirap maging underground na band. . . pero masaya rin naman 8)
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First of all, it's "you're" not "your"
Basta may chikcks! HAHA
Pero seriously, why not?
pasensya na tao lang
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panu kung my beer ok na ba yun????
:idea:
wala lang kasi para nmn my masayang event sa school namin
boring eh :!:
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i agree to that ..basta may beer.ok na sa kin un...
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have been playing for free for 4 years. haha. my current band even had to go to katipunan for a free gig. all we got was food. not that bad but still. ah well. we'd do anything for exposure. right mr. riffscreamer? :D
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Onga Kahit talo ako sa pagkain kasi vegetarian ako. Pede na.
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For free, but if I had to set a price, it wouldn't be much at all.
VFM mofos. :D
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I would play for the benefit of the Foundation for Paraplegic, Amputee Transsexual Midgets.
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For free, but if I had to set a price, it wouldn't be much at all.
VFM mofos. :D
what's the name of your band?
magkano ang i-seset mong price? :!:
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For free, but if I had to set a price, it wouldn't be much at all.
VFM mofos. :D
what's the name of your band?
magkano ang i-seset mong price? :!:
Um. What the hell? :lol:
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Why not!
Kung buhay naman ang crowd................Bawi-bawi na rin yun,,,,,,,,,,
Anyway kung sikat ka man o hindi........obligado kang tumugtog ng libre
lalo na kung sa charity institution ang punta ng proceed..........
Depende pa din.............Kung may sponsor yung production / concert para sa budget ng mga talents............. Malamang meron bayad plus amenities.......
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before the band i was in last year faded into obscurity and darkness, we used to play gigs for free all the time. some of the venues were kind enough to offer food, drinks, a small amount and (what we were really after) more gigs. i guess we were just happy to be able to play in front of a crowd. as a musician, to be able to perform is a reward by itself.
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For free, but if I had to set a price, it wouldn't be much at all.
VFM mofos. :D
what's the name of your band?
magkano ang i-seset mong price? :!:
Um. What the hell? :lol:
magkano nga?
may student discount ba yan? hehehe
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before the band i was in last year faded into obscurity and darkness, we used to play gigs for free all the time. some of the venues were kind enough to offer food, drinks, a small amount and (what we were really after) more gigs. i guess we were just happy to be able to play in front of a crowd. as a musician, to be able to perform is a reward by itself.
pero nasa band ka pa rin ba ngayon?
i mean in a new band?
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ok.. im a solo artist so if theres an invite to play, i go, theres usually a pay, pero kung wala, dadaanin ko sa pagkain..hehe...MAGBABAON AKO! :twisted:
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I'm game. Play for free?? Why not?? Just as long as they don't make us play Hele, Schlocksteddy, MYMP and Cueshet songs! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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hmmm, matanong ko lang, meron bang gig na rock (in general) ang genre ng tugtugan na may budget, i mean yung di mo kailangan mag sell ng tickets para may porsyento ka?
kung may nakaka alam kung saan ang mga gigs na ganun paki pm nalang sakin please :D
masarap tumugtog, sa stage, sa harap ng mga tao. . . pero magastos din. gastos sa rent sa studio, traspo papunta at pauwi sa gig, pag maintain ng instruments (like guitar strings, battery sa fx. . .)
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Sir marami akong kilala d2 sa marikina.......tugtugan Pantera, Dream theater, Progressive.........then suma-sideline sila sa showband just to maintain their budget & for their families.........
Mahirap sir, kahit ako i have dreams of having such theory......... Pero may mga Gig spots na may Rock & Roll nights din, pwede ka din cguro mag singit ng orig mo pa konte-konte.......Dito may budget.......
But if we are looking for something like "Club Dredd" na may budget........ Medyo may konting kahirapan...........Even Patrick D. Reidenbach ( tama ba spelling ko........ :P ) don't gave compensation to eraserheads & other bands that spawn from their lair........meron cguro honorarium.
Kaya tiyaga sir, pag naka-album ka at major label........
Hataw sa mga raket at provincial tours dun ka pwdeng sumungil ng
malaki....... kc mliit din ang kita sa album........ Kung may initial contract budget, suwerte......... Kung ang contract ay 2 years, minsan kailangan mong punan pa yung 2 years, working with that same label in order for you to get the sum................ :wink: 8)
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Kaya nga sir.......The keyword is always "ENJOY".......
Kung enjoy ka sa ginagawa mo........"mag ti-tiyaga ka"......
& be at your best all the time.........
Kung gusto mo lahat ng paraan gagawin mo.........
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well Ive been in lots of bands in the past playing in schools and events for office.
Well the best was during college we would play in this All- Gurl school, kahit lang bayad ok na... fud nalang tinitira at busog sa mata:p :twisted:
Well the motto "For the love of the Game, Money and Fame" doesnt apply all the time.
It's rock n roll, its all Love and passion.
Importante your music reaches out to your audience.
Peace Out!
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ok yan :lol:
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well Ive been in lots of bands in the past playing in schools and events for office.
Well the best was during college we would play in this All- Gurl school, kahit lang bayad ok na... fud nalang tinitira at busog sa mata:p :twisted:
Well the motto "For the love of the Game, Money and Fame" doesnt apply all the time.
It's rock n roll, its all Love and passion.
Importante your music reaches out to your audience.
Peace Out!
st. paul ba yun? o st. scholastica?
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no...its all about the money...hehehe
kidding
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well Ive been in lots of bands in the past playing in schools and events for office.
Well the best was during college we would play in this All- Gurl school, kahit lang bayad ok na... fud nalang tinitira at busog sa mata:p :twisted:
Well the motto "For the love of the Game, Money and Fame" doesnt apply all the time.
It's rock n roll, its all Love and passion.
Importante your music reaches out to your audience.
Peace Out!
st. paul ba yun? o st. scholastica?
Boss, sa kolasa astig yung mga chick and very warm yung crowd pero malupet talaga sa assumption!!! warmer and better..
well those were the days.. :wink:
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well Ive been in lots of bands in the past playing in schools and events for office.
Well the best was during college we would play in this All- Gurl school, kahit lang bayad ok na... fud nalang tinitira at busog sa mata:p :twisted:
Well the motto "For the love of the Game, Money and Fame" doesnt apply all the time.
It's rock n roll, its all Love and passion.
Importante your music reaches out to your audience.
Peace Out!
wahh... boss pala ako.... lagi nalang....
st. paul ba yun? o st. scholastica?
Boss, sa kolasa astig yung mga chick and very warm yung crowd pero malupet talaga sa assumption!!! warmer and better..
well those were the days.. :wink:
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Basta tugtog lng.............. Kung pinalakpakan, pwdeng-pwde yun na ang bayad......
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Basta tugtog lng.............. Kung pinalakpakan, pwdeng-pwde yun na ang bayad......
ayos naman pala yun eh makapag organize nga ng tugtugan invite ko kayo hehehe tsaka na pag nakapag plano na para masaya
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Cool!.......................... 8)
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ok.. im a solo artist so if theres an invite to play, i go, theres usually a pay, pero kung wala, dadaanin ko sa pagkain..hehe...MAGBABAON AKO! :twisted:
ayos ahh... magdala ka ng malaking baunan hehehe..... tsaka pakagutom kang maige... :P
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Cool!.......................... 8)
8) summer na....
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tama ka boss emil !!!
palak-pak lang, ayos na!
apir!
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Kaya nga sir.......The keyword is always "ENJOY".......
Kung enjoy ka sa ginagawa mo........"mag ti-tiyaga ka"......
& be at your best all the time.........
Kung gusto mo lahat ng paraan gagawin mo.........
tama ka dun brad, pero kailangan hindi lang iisang tao sa banda ang gagawa nun diba? kailangan BUONG BANDA, lalo na yung sa part na "be at your best all the time".
tama po ba?
mahirap kasi yung ikaw nag seseryoso then may iba eh, wala lang. . . swerte kung yung kabana mo eh parehas kayo ng objective :wink:
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Kaya nga sir.......The keyword is always "ENJOY".......
Kung enjoy ka sa ginagawa mo........"mag ti-tiyaga ka"......
& be at your best all the time.........
Kung gusto mo lahat ng paraan gagawin mo.........
tama ka dun brad, pero kailangan hindi lang iisang tao sa banda ang gagawa nun diba? kailangan BUONG BANDA, lalo na yung sa part na "be at your best all the time".
tama po ba?
mahirap kasi yung ikaw nag seseryoso then may iba eh, wala lang. . . swerte kung yung kabana mo eh parehas kayo ng objective :wink:
+1................. group effort talaga.
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nung tumutugtog pa ako dati nung 90's madalas mga school events, mga concerts like rock against drugs, mga tugtugan sa UP etc. wala kaming bayad :( ewan ko lang pano sistema ngayon.
parang ang binabayaran lang yata DATI either showband or signed artists like color it red, e-heads, etc.
pero ok lang naman dahil masaya na kaming tumugtog non. playing is the reward itself.
pero parang mali e... kasi ginagastusan din naman yung mga gamit like strings, cables, pamasahe, etc. pero ganon talaga e :(
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nung tumutugtog pa ako dati nung 90's madalas mga school events, mga concerts like rock against drugs, mga tugtugan sa UP etc. wala kaming bayad :( ewan ko lang pano sistema ngayon.
parang ang binabayaran lang yata DATI either showband or signed artists like color it red, e-heads, etc.
pero ok lang naman dahil masaya na kaming tumugtog non. playing is the reward itself.
pero parang mali e... kasi ginagastusan din naman yung mga gamit like strings, cables, pamasahe, etc. pero ganon talaga e :(
Some call it hobby.............. kahit mahal talagang gagastusan mo.
Some call it passion................ as in whatever it takes.
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well Ive been in lots of bands in the past playing in schools and events for office.
Well the best was during college we would play in this All- Gurl school, kahit lang bayad ok na... fud nalang tinitira at busog sa mata:p :twisted:
Well the motto "For the love of the Game, Money and Fame" doesnt apply all the time.
It's rock n roll, its all Love and passion.
Importante your music reaches out to your audience.
Peace Out!
You're damn right...kahit walang pera sa banda, basta masaya kayo as a group.
...ndi lang dapat ang isa lang sa inyo ang mei passion...dapat lahat.
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You're damn right...kahit walang pera sa banda, basta masaya kayo as a group.
...ndi lang dapat ang isa lang sa inyo ang mei passion...dapat lahat.
+1
8)
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i'm playing for a Christian band, so we usually play for free. libre kain lang. that's my way of putting the talent that God has given me into good use. di play for pay yun, play for God :)
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ok basta may crowd na game and boooze :D
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applause & beer..........................
goes a long, long way man......
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applause & beer..........................
goes a long, long way man......
Yeah.. 8)
Music = Passion = Love = Friends = Camaraderie = Beer
Kampay!
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mga ka-tol, magiiba ang mga pananaw ninyong lahat kapag humirap na ang buhay ninyo. kapag wala kang ibang mapasukan na trabaho at kailangan mong buhayin ang sarili mo, mambabarat ka talaga sa tugtog. marerealize mo na wala ka naman magagawa sa palakpak at di ka pwedeng mabuhay sa beer lang. kailangan magpabayad. pero tingin ko naman, wala naman aabot sa ganong antas ng buhay dito sa mga nagpopost sa forum na 'to eh, may pambayad pa kasi tayo ng internet natin eh.
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mga ka-tol, magiiba ang mga pananaw ninyong lahat kapag humirap na ang buhay ninyo. kapag wala kang ibang mapasukan na trabaho at kailangan mong buhayin ang sarili mo, mambabarat ka talaga sa tugtog. marerealize mo na wala ka naman magagawa sa palakpak at di ka pwedeng mabuhay sa beer lang. kailangan magpabayad. pero tingin ko naman, wala naman aabot sa ganong antas ng buhay dito sa mga nagpopost sa forum na 'to eh, may pambayad pa kasi tayo ng internet natin eh.
Pwede naman mangyari ung ganyan eh. Kung naghihirap ka at inoffer ka na tumugtog for free syempre iisipin mo na may bayad naman "sana". Pero ang sakin lang eh bakit nman hindi ako tutugtog kung walang bayad?...Kapagka "Musikero" ka 2nd lang ang money sayo. Bakit mo ba piniling matutong humawak ng instrumento?...Kse gusto mo...mei "passion" ka at ndi dahil pagkakakitahan mo. Syempre tutugtog ako na walang sabi sabi.
Tanong ko sayo pare...Kung pinangarap mo maging isang piloto simula bata pa lagi mo napapaginipan na nagpapalipad ng eroplano tapos natuto kang magpalipad...at isang araw inoffer ka na magpalipad ng eroplano na walang bayad. Would you do it for free?
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ako naman, and i know some of you might look at me differently after this...but i don't play for free and i don't teach for free.
except:
1) i'm gonna be playing my kind of music
2) or i'm gonna be teaching a really close friend (eg: sa inuman, tambay tapos may gitara... etc) but never free 'formal' lessons
here's the way i look at it. pinaghirapan mo husayan yung craft mo, nag invest ka ng gamit para sa music mo. andaming pera at oras ang nagastos sa kaka practice...all this just to play for free? i don't think so...
isipin mo nalang, may party...yung decorations ba libre? hinde...yung pagkain ba libre? hinde... yung invitations ba libre? hinde...
bakit andaming nag aassume na yung banda libre?
sagot diyan, dahil alam ng mga promoter/organizer na passionate ang mga musikero at kating kating tumugtog...kaya anong nangyayari? exploited tayo...yan ang katotohanan diyan...
and besides, sige, sabihin na natin you're willing to pay for free...masaya tumugtog, no doubt...sabihin na natin libre ka tumugtog...paano na yung pamasahe mo papuntang gig? paano na yung gas mo? yung kakainin mo habang nagaantay sa set ninyo? yung pagod mo magligpit ng gamit ng madaling araw? paano yung studio time ninyo? lilibrehen mo pa ba ang mga organizer para sa mga yun? ang bait mo naman...
ang banda, form of entertainment yan...pag manonood ka ba ng sine libre lang? pag gusto mo makinig ng bagong cd, libre ba? miski pirated...libre ba? miski nasa bahay ka nga eh...internet, tv, radio, libre ba? hindi kahit papano binabayaran mo yang mga yan...bakit pag banda, libre?
exposure? yan ba ang dahilan? bakit mo gusto magpa exposed? para makilala diba? at para mabayaran din in the long run...so ang magiging tanong...gaano ka katagal willing tumugtog na walang bayad?
in the first place, kung ayaw sayo ng crowd...dapat isipin muna kung bakit ayaw...baka naman kulang pa talaga kayo sa practice (take note i'm not talking to anyone specific, by the way) . or baka mali venue na tinugtugan ninyo...baka metal kayo sabay tumutugtog kayo sa mga bar na pang burang...(talagang hindi kayo mababayaran niyan...baka kayo pa mabgayad). music = entertainment. baka hindi kayo entertaining kaya ayaw magbayad...
music=entertainment=product/service...ang music, parang sabon, tinapay, sapatos...etc etc....produkto yan...serbisyo yan...libre ba dapat? hinde...
pero kung gusto niyo tumugtog ng libre...wala namang makakapigil sa inyo eh...sayang nga lang yung talents ninyo...na eexploit ng mga bar at organizers...
and besides...you gotta get paid to support the maintenance of your instruments...and to pay for the gear you need.
i'm gonna stop my ranting right here with one final thought...maybe a solution...how do you get paid?
sagot: magpractice kayo ng matindi, pay your dues, tighten up your band...and basically, make your "show" worth every single centavo they pay you...and work on marketing yourselves more aggressively...wag kayo magpapa uto sa mga ganito:
bar: pwede ba kayo tumugtog dito? alang budget pero may libreng beer at pagkain (this is a sign the bar finds you "marketable"...they can make money off of you)
sagot mo (dapat): eh may beer at pagkain din naman kami sa bahay eh...
yun lang ....
my 4 cents (medyo mahaba eh...kaya hindi 2 cents) hwehwe corny...
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TAMA!!!!!
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ako naman baliktad ng four cents ng sir markflo.
in my four years of playing with my previous band, wala akong (or kami, for that matter) naiuwi ni isang sentimo. the most we got was two boxful of SMB in cans when we played at the octoberfest some few years back, and a few thousand bucks for our summerslam gig (na pinangkain lang namin sa mister kebab, so quits din :D).
we never played and assumed to get some financial gain off it. masaya na kami na nakakatugtog sa kung saan-saan at narerecognize ang music namin. aminado kasi kami na with the type of music we play, we won't be raking in any moolahs at all. while there were times rin na we wished we had a budget, the reality is mahirap talaga magkaroon.
the most rewarding thing from my experience with my old band was ang daming nagsasabing "magaling ako magpatunog". these words from high profile bands... bands that i idolize. and i haven't got a clue what they were talking about, kasi i was only using a crappy rocker sg copy through a crappy zoom707.
to hear something like that from them is reason enough for me not to mind playing for free. :)
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Bumili ka ng gantong kamahal na gitara, gadgets, amps...bayad sa studio at kung ano pang anik-anik...pinagkagastusahan mo ng todo ang pagtugtog. Tanong mo sa sarili mo bakit mo ba ginagawa yang mga bagay na yan?. Dahil ba sa nangangarap ka na sisikat ka at pagkakakitaan mo yan balang araw? o dahil ba kase mahal mo at gusto mo ang ginagawa mo?
Nung nadinig mo ang unang kanta ng inidolo mo dati nung ndi ka pa marunong kumanta o tumugtog. Nangarap ka ba na maging ganun din ang buhay mo?...Diba ang pinangarap mo eh "sana ganyan din ako kagaling magitara...kumanta".
Marami sa mga kabataan ngayon na nagpupunta ng studio mga high school nakauniform pa pag pumunta ,walang gamit...rerentahin lang din ang gamit sa studio. Tanongin mo sila..bakit ba sila andun. Kadalasan ang sagot "Kase masaya...at Hobby namin". Hindi nila inisip ang pera. Kase mahal nila at gusto nila ang ginagawa nila. Para saan?...saan ba nangagaling ung passion...?...diba sa samahan nyo at masaya kayong tumutogtog?
Oo lahat tayo kailangan ng pera, Maraming trabaho dyan. Magsumikap ka...mahirap at masikip ang mundo ng musika d2 sa pinas at ndi ganun kadaling sumikat. Be Smart...Magtrabaho ka.
Para sakin ang musika ay passion...hobby...at ndi source ng income...(pero mas ok kung binabayaran ka, sino ba naman ang aayaw sa pera). Pero ndi ako aayaw pag inoffer ako tumugtog. Depende nalang sa schedule. Kung hassle...wag. Basta may beer at pede ko isama barkada ko...y not?!
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musika + barkada + alak + babae = panalo!!!
ang pera ay secondary nalang... parang privelege nlng...
ang right tumugtog ang masarap maranasan..
right mo kci pinag-aralan mo... priveleged ka pag binayaran ka..
kahit ang mga sikat na banda sa states ay tumutogtog pa rin sa backyard kasma ang mga barkada, skaterfriends, pool addicts and kapatid sa musika. yumaman man.. babalik pa rin sa roots na tugtugan na walang pressure.
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ok basta may crowd na game and boooze
tama sir pallas :twisted: ok na bsta may crowd na makaka appreciate sa inyo. ako 4 yrs na rin na nag gigig pero minsan lang kami nabayaran isang beses pa lang(pinang inom lang din namin :twisted: ) masaya 2mugtog lalo na pag alam mo na may nakaka apreciate sa music nyo. tama rin ung sabi ng ksama natin na sa ngyn ang binabayaran na banda ay mga showbands o kaya pag maingay ang 2g2gan mo kailangan sikat ka para may tf kau. sabi nga nila pag maingay 2g2gan mo palabas ang pera pag gus2 mo kumita mag showband ka. pero kahit showband ka man o hindi bsta masaya ka sa gangawa mo may bayad man o wala no regrets ka dahil gus2 mo ito :twisted:. sana nga lang sa mga nagpapa prod sana kahit may libre man lang kahit isang bote ng red horse sa bawat myembro ng banda. para masaya :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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mga ka-tol, magiiba ang mga pananaw ninyong lahat kapag humirap na ang buhay ninyo. kapag wala kang ibang mapasukan na trabaho at kailangan mong buhayin ang sarili mo, mambabarat ka talaga sa tugtog. marerealize mo na wala ka naman magagawa sa palakpak at di ka pwedeng mabuhay sa beer lang. kailangan magpabayad. pero tingin ko naman, wala naman aabot sa ganong antas ng buhay dito sa mga nagpopost sa forum na 'to eh, may pambayad pa kasi tayo ng internet natin eh.
Madalas naman kasi ang mga nagbabanda na may gigs ay may regular day jobs din e, kasi aminin na natin mahirap bumuhay ng sarili(o ng pamilya) sa pagbabanda lang. So unless miyembro ka ng isa sa mga "big time" na mainstream acts dito sa 'Pinas e talagang barya lang ang kikitain mo sa pagtutugtog.
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For sure. In fact, we're doing a charity gig this coming Sunday for an event called "Super Cities Walk for MS" organized by the Multiple Sclerosis Society of Canada here in Ottawa. It's just going to be me and our female singer, (guitar and vocals) and we're just doing a 45 minute set.
I've never really looked at doing gigs as a source of income. I play music primarily for the fun of it. A couple of years back I was in band (played with them for 7 years) that only played charity gigs and private parties. We never got paid. But that was what that band was all about, it was about having a good time. The best part of it all was that I was able to play in venues that I never thought I'd ever get a chance to play in and be able to play in front of thousands of people.
Like I said, I don't play music for money, but I have my own limits. I hate being taken advantage of. Here's a scenario: We play in a bar, they pay as dirt cheap. It was okay because we thought, well its a small bar and didnt think there would be lots of people. Thing was the bar was packed (our crowd), they were also charging people a lot for drinks and stuff. So after the evening they paid us and wanted us to play there again for the same amount of money. Well, we told them they have to pay us more but they wouldn't. So we said "screw you". I mean I can understand some places can only pay so much but for places that surely make money, it's not fair to the band not to pay them accordingly.
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depende kung papayag yung mga kabanda ko.
sakin kc walang kaso.. basta okey yung place, yung tipong d kami mababastos.. game ako dun!
anyway yun naman point ko for playing.. para marinig ako (kami) ng tao.. tsaka if theirs one thing na gustong kung gawin paulit ulit .. wala ng iba kundi ang 2mog2g..!
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Matagal ko ng natanggap na mahirap kumita kung musika ang tanging hanapbuhay mo. Kaya ngayon, meron akong trabaho, tapos tugtog kapag may pagkakataon. Kaya ok lang walang bayad, kahit walang pagkain ayus lang. Basta masaya ang tugtugan. Sana lang, magsimula sa ORAS. Kasi maraming organizers, wala na ngang bayad, dalawang oras pa ang hihintayin mo para makatugtog. Pero bukod diyan, walang problema sa akin ang pagtugtog ng walang bayad.
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Basta game yung crowd nga tsaka free booze and everyone is on the same frequency as you EVEN the crowd. Even a not so good band can sound great when you throw in all these factors. The high that you get at that moment...Man 8)
If your main livelihood is gigging then this is a no brainer. You gotta get paid, simple as that.
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I have a day job & playing for me is mainly a stress buster so I don't mind playing for free at all. What is important for me is the "high" that I get when playing. He! He! He!
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i would play. especially if its for a Cause.
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no prob...for a cause better din
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in my case.. i would pay to play in a band.. i never had one before.. :cry:
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depends
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yes...for the xp.
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Basta tugtog lng.............. Kung pinalakpakan, pwdeng-pwde yun na ang bayad......
Saka yung may mga audience na nagheheadbang o kaya kumakanta din, lalo kung may tsibog. Ok na bayad yun.
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I would play for free. I'll do it for the music not for the money.
But then again it depends... If some guys are making money out of us..then we should get something at least. =)
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I would play for free. I'll do it for the music not for the money.
But then again it depends... If some guys are making money out of us..then we should get something at least. =)
aba'y
dapat lang!
hehehe!
\m/
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yup,if it's for a good cause.
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play for free feels great. most especially for church/convent causes(organizers are nuns and priests). also for charity work. i always go an extra mile for the gig if the cause is A-OK.
but there are times that we get invited and money is involved in a way that it was hidden, and the main thing is to "promote" a charity gig with the "proceeds" will go to the "......." and then hindi pala. sucks. sayang yun pagod.
in another case naman, pag sinabing free food and drinks basta play for free dahil charity event, then wala pala, ay...iba na yan. suntuka na yan sa bird. hehehe
in my case.. i would pay to play in a band.. i never had one before.. :cry:
jam tau. dami may gusto dio mag jam. kahit saang studio basta matino gamit. oks na yun.
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Yo turiguiliano,
Your avatar is much too WIDE and is affecting the board layout. I've just sent you a PM about this.
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as long as it's for a good cause or charity, i'm there! free of charge anyday. if someone in the sidelines is making some money from it, f*ck no!
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like what you've read are you going to perform free, like in school events or even for charity?????? :idea:
We would play for free for our friends' productions, at least may mapapanood ka rin na magaling.
Pero hindi sa skul dahil mga noobs kasabay. Mabibwiset lang ako.
Dun pa sila nagtotono sa stage nakanamfuta naman!!!
tapos 15 minutes kung mag setup
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sobra na miss ko na nga yun under ground mas totoo yun tao doon .... mas malaki lang nga kick namin pag main stream. pero from time to time i would like to be playing underground
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We would go but it depends... But if its a random free concert where many crowds are and many free drinks & food... then we might do it! :?:
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in my case.. i would pay to play in a band.. i never had one before.. :cry:
get out there and start one! it just takes a bit of balls. then go out and play free charity gigs for good causes. the experience is absolutely beautiful! :wink:
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depende sa cause...kci ang daming prod na namemera lang eh...
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sakin ok na.. wag lang sapilitang magbenta ng tickets!!! ang hirap nun no. tapos wala ka pang matatanggap khit magkano? kasalanan mo ba pag di ka nakahanap ng bibili ng tickets? lalo na pag wlang mainstream na kasabay. dati madali 2mug2g nung eheads era pa. halos lahat kasi ng kasabay mo mainstream eh. pero im not blaming ticket selling production. alam ko lahat ng hirap nila. so .. para sakin. makatugtog lng ng libre ok na. pero mas ok kung kahit pagkain o pamasahe man lang diba. pero pinakaok e ung may bayad. kaya nga lang. pangrockstar na un eh.. or pang showband hehe :)
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been there, done that.... :lol: no remorse, no regrets.....
may kakilala ako tumugtog tapos ang bayad beer at keso na pulutan! :o :o :lol: :lol:
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like what you've read are you going to perform free, like in school events or even for charity?????? :idea:
sure no problem, basta ba open minded yung mga manonood :) hirap kasi minsan pag may invitation kayo to perform then makikita mong mga manonood e mukhang hindi uugma sa tugtugan nyo hirap nun LoL
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for the love of music I would!
but if ever I'm into an income generating band. Of course I would want to be paid.. since it would be requiring my time and my money more than a band hobby.
kun baga, return of investment.
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actually in the underground scene is more of a pure passion. life in the underground is like a movement and not for money. playng what is extreme and not profitable is pure fun and devotion. May mga bandang nababayran sa underground pero kadalasan gas money (bands coming from cavite,laguna and olongapo). masarap sa underground but you have to take its toll. and one more thing.. who cares about kids nowadays.. maxadong nagiging big deal para sa atin ung mga taong walang alam.. tyo rin nmn before wla tyong alam. why wont you try giving them some list of bands. so what if they dont know anything?? its ot their fault kc ang mga visible lang is the bands that can be seen or heard over radio', tv's etc.. id rather play for free than to play without having passion. metal still kicks ass as far as ive known.. hail the steel!!
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for me, i think for as long as nagbabanda ako (that's about 10 years now) madalang kami bayaran dito sa pangasinan. madals kami pa nagbabayad para lang makatugtog (battle of the bands). seriously, ther are a lot of talents and not a lot of producers who are willing to organize a gig. ngayon nga kami kami na nago-organize para lang madevelop mga new babies ng indie group namin. kung minsan pa palakasan sa producer nangyayari. and for those na fan ng magazine ng pulp, i believe that was 2004 or 2005 nung nasiraan ang image ng dagupan kasi "wala raw talent" mga banda dito. FYI sa writer na yun, di kasali ang mga tunay na banda ng dagupan nun kasi yung nag-produce nun, galit lahat ng banda sa kanya kasi tablado sya. yun yung wudstock ng dagupan na bi-noycott ng mga major bands dito. ang mga natira mga new talents as in "NEW"
balik sa topic, sometimes by band does get paid pag b-days, weddings, debuts, and reunions. yung vocalist ko (my wife too ^_^) nagsosolo artist rin kung minsan sa mga kasal pag sya lang kelangan. It's hard to earn money while doing the thing you like most.lalo na sa industry natin. i remember nagshowband pa nga kami ng 6 months kaso puro alternative pa rin tinugtog namin, tigas ng ulo hehhehe. ngayon, medyo pagig gig na lang kasi busy sa work, business, family, etc. na eh.
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Bumili ka ng gantong kamahal na gitara, gadgets, amps...bayad sa studio at kung ano pang anik-anik...pinagkagastusahan mo ng todo ang pagtugtog. Tanong mo sa sarili mo bakit mo ba ginagawa yang mga bagay na yan?. Dahil ba sa nangangarap ka na sisikat ka at pagkakakitaan mo yan balang araw? o dahil ba kase mahal mo at gusto mo ang ginagawa mo?
Nung nadinig mo ang unang kanta ng inidolo mo dati nung ndi ka pa marunong kumanta o tumugtog. Nangarap ka ba na maging ganun din ang buhay mo?...Diba ang pinangarap mo eh "sana ganyan din ako kagaling magitara...kumanta".
Marami sa mga kabataan ngayon na nagpupunta ng studio mga high school nakauniform pa pag pumunta ,walang gamit...rerentahin lang din ang gamit sa studio. Tanongin mo sila..bakit ba sila andun. Kadalasan ang sagot "Kase masaya...at Hobby namin". Hindi nila inisip ang pera. Kase mahal nila at gusto nila ang ginagawa nila. Para saan?...saan ba nangagaling ung passion...?...diba sa samahan nyo at masaya kayong tumutogtog?
Oo lahat tayo kailangan ng pera, Maraming trabaho dyan. Magsumikap ka...mahirap at masikip ang mundo ng musika d2 sa pinas at ndi ganun kadaling sumikat. Be Smart...Magtrabaho ka.
Para sakin ang musika ay passion...hobby...at ndi source ng income...(pero mas ok kung binabayaran ka, sino ba naman ang aayaw sa pera). Pero ndi ako aayaw pag inoffer ako tumugtog. Depende nalang sa schedule. Kung hassle...wag. Basta may beer at pede ko isama barkada ko...y not?!
ako aayaw sa pera!!! .... kung peke. hehe
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for me, i think for as long as nagbabanda ako (that's about 10 years now) madalang kami bayaran dito sa pangasinan. madals kami pa nagbabayad para lang makatugtog (battle of the bands). seriously, ther are a lot of talents and not a lot of producers who are willing to organize a gig. ngayon nga kami kami na nago-organize para lang madevelop mga new babies ng indie group namin. kung minsan pa palakasan sa producer nangyayari. and for those na fan ng magazine ng pulp, i believe that was 2004 or 2005 nung nasiraan ang image ng dagupan kasi "wala raw talent" mga banda dito. FYI sa writer na yun, di kasali ang mga tunay na banda ng dagupan nun kasi yung nag-produce nun, galit lahat ng banda sa kanya kasi tablado sya. yun yung wudstock ng dagupan na bi-noycott ng mga major bands dito. ang mga natira mga new talents as in "NEW"
balik sa topic, sometimes by band does get paid pag b-days, weddings, debuts, and reunions. yung vocalist ko (my wife too ^_^) nagsosolo artist rin kung minsan sa mga kasal pag sya lang kelangan. It's hard to earn money while doing the thing you like most.lalo na sa industry natin. i remember nagshowband pa nga kami ng 6 months kaso puro alternative pa rin tinugtog namin, tigas ng ulo hehhehe. ngayon, medyo pagig gig na lang kasi busy sa work, business, family, etc. na eh.
dude!! taga dagupan ka? wow.. i havent been there since 1996 yta. musta jan? huli kong punta jan nadapa ako tpos nasugatan tuhod ko eh.. hehe.. apilyedo ko nga pala caranto.. bryan caranto :)
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for me, i think for as long as nagbabanda ako (that's about 10 years now) madalang kami bayaran dito sa pangasinan. madals kami pa nagbabayad para lang makatugtog (battle of the bands). seriously, ther are a lot of talents and not a lot of producers who are willing to organize a gig. ngayon nga kami kami na nago-organize para lang madevelop mga new babies ng indie group namin. kung minsan pa palakasan sa producer nangyayari. and for those na fan ng magazine ng pulp, i believe that was 2004 or 2005 nung nasiraan ang image ng dagupan kasi "wala raw talent" mga banda dito. FYI sa writer na yun, di kasali ang mga tunay na banda ng dagupan nun kasi yung nag-produce nun, galit lahat ng banda sa kanya kasi tablado sya. yun yung wudstock ng dagupan na bi-noycott ng mga major bands dito. ang mga natira mga new talents as in "NEW"
balik sa topic, sometimes by band does get paid pag b-days, weddings, debuts, and reunions. yung vocalist ko (my wife too ^_^) nagsosolo artist rin kung minsan sa mga kasal pag sya lang kelangan. It's hard to earn money while doing the thing you like most.lalo na sa industry natin. i remember nagshowband pa nga kami ng 6 months kaso puro alternative pa rin tinugtog namin, tigas ng ulo hehhehe. ngayon, medyo pagig gig na lang kasi busy sa work, business, family, etc. na eh.
dude!! taga dagupan ka? wow.. i havent been there since 1996 yta. musta jan? huli kong punta jan nadapa ako tpos nasugatan tuhod ko eh.. hehe.. apilyedo ko nga pala caranto.. bryan caranto :)
dude specifically where dito? kasi medyo malawak rin dagupan.
eto crappy pa rin music scene at underrated ang REAL talents dahil sa p@t4Ng-1N4#6 luto na yan. imagine, last na talent na galing dagupan is joey benin from side a. Pero yung Blazing Bulalakaws na asa Terno Records ata ngayon, from Dagupan sila eh, kaso nga lang nag-U.P. Baguio sila kaya yun, parang ang nirepresent nila is Baguio.
Wala na rin producer na gusto maginvest dito kasi siniraan kami ng isang writer ng PULP (i dunno the exact word) na ang dating eh walang talent ang dagupan. FYI sa kanya, di tumugtog mga major bands nung time na yun kasi nagboycott kami. Personal Reasons namin yun at hindi financial. ^_^
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for me, i think for as long as nagbabanda ako (that's about 10 years now) madalang kami bayaran dito sa pangasinan. madals kami pa nagbabayad para lang makatugtog (battle of the bands). seriously, ther are a lot of talents and not a lot of producers who are willing to organize a gig. ngayon nga kami kami na nago-organize para lang madevelop mga new babies ng indie group namin. kung minsan pa palakasan sa producer nangyayari. and for those na fan ng magazine ng pulp, i believe that was 2004 or 2005 nung nasiraan ang image ng dagupan kasi "wala raw talent" mga banda dito. FYI sa writer na yun, di kasali ang mga tunay na banda ng dagupan nun kasi yung nag-produce nun, galit lahat ng banda sa kanya kasi tablado sya. yun yung wudstock ng dagupan na bi-noycott ng mga major bands dito. ang mga natira mga new talents as in "NEW"
balik sa topic, sometimes by band does get paid pag b-days, weddings, debuts, and reunions. yung vocalist ko (my wife too ^_^) nagsosolo artist rin kung minsan sa mga kasal pag sya lang kelangan. It's hard to earn money while doing the thing you like most.lalo na sa industry natin. i remember nagshowband pa nga kami ng 6 months kaso puro alternative pa rin tinugtog namin, tigas ng ulo hehhehe. ngayon, medyo pagig gig na lang kasi busy sa work, business, family, etc. na eh.
dude!! taga dagupan ka? wow.. i havent been there since 1996 yta. musta jan? huli kong punta jan nadapa ako tpos nasugatan tuhod ko eh.. hehe.. apilyedo ko nga pala caranto.. bryan caranto :)
dude specifically where dito? kasi medyo malawak rin dagupan.
eto crappy pa rin music scene at underrated ang REAL talents dahil sa p@t4Ng-1N4#6 luto na yan. imagine, last na talent na galing dagupan is joey benin from side a. Pero yung Blazing Bulalakaws na asa Terno Records ata ngayon, from Dagupan sila eh, kaso nga lang nag-U.P. Baguio sila kaya yun, parang ang nirepresent nila is Baguio.
Wala na rin producer na gusto maginvest dito kasi siniraan kami ng isang writer ng PULP (i dunno the exact word) na ang dating eh walang talent ang dagupan. FYI sa kanya, di tumugtog mga major bands nung time na yun kasi nagboycott kami. Personal Reasons namin yun at hindi financial. ^_^
talaga? badtrip naman ung writer na un. tska kahit sabihin na nating totoo ung issue dapat hindi sya gnun dun. lalong lalo na sa mga magazine stuff or any kind of media stuff kc wla silang rights para manira. pwera nalang kung siniraan din sila. pero kahit na. anyways meron din pupunta jan one time just keep on organizing events :)
nakalimutan ko na kung saan kami banda eh. hehe ano ba ung parayao? un yata. hehe
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ummm depends
a crowd that sings a long with us is a yes
basta merong ummm chickz ehehehe at after party!
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for the love and interest of music i wud. 8)
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basta libre alak at epti pwedeng pwede na! :lol:
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for the love of music why not? pero depende rin naman sa sitwasyon. minsan exposure gigs ok yan,... kung maganda nga ung magiging exposure. dapat alam mo rin kung kailan dapat may konting honorarium man lang tulad ng transportation allowance lalo na kung malalayo sobra ung lugar. hindi naman tayo lahat mayayaman at di ka rin naman makakatugtog kung wala kang pamasahe papunta sa gig.
importante mag enjoy ung banda sa experience. un ung kapalit ng lahat ng paghihirap sa practices diba. kung benefit gigs like charity work, ayun ang magandang example kung saan pwede tumugtog ung banda and give out the gift of music and entertainment for free.
for most of us, hindi ito ung ikinabubuhay natin kaya kung maaaring makatugtog lang kahit libre rock n roll tayo! :-D
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for the love of music why not? pero depende rin naman sa sitwasyon. minsan exposure gigs ok yan,... kung maganda nga ung magiging exposure. dapat alam mo rin kung kailan dapat may konting honorarium man lang tulad ng transportation allowance lalo na kung malalayo sobra ung lugar. hindi naman tayo lahat mayayaman at di ka rin naman makakatugtog kung wala kang pamasahe papunta sa gig.
importante mag enjoy ung banda sa experience. un ung kapalit ng lahat ng paghihirap sa practices diba. kung benefit gigs like charity work, ayun ang magandang example kung saan pwede tumugtog ung banda and give out the gift of music and entertainment for free.
for most of us, hindi ito ung ikinabubuhay natin kaya kung maaaring makatugtog lang kahit libre rock n roll tayo! :-D
same here......kumbaga....for the love of music...it's not about money although it would be nice...pero i wanted to be heard and wanted my tone to be heard all over
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ang sarap gawin nito..lalot naiintindhan mo tlga yung tunay na pagmamahal sa musika..hehe
til now game padin ako sa ganito..hehe :-D
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bakit naman ang hindi!!!
may budget o wala basta nakatugtog ka at gusto mo ang gingawa mo....go on...
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economics lang yan..kung hindi for a good casuse bakit................ walang bayad... isipino mo kung gaano kamahal instruments mo plus gas money or transpo fare kulang pa nga eh.. dapat talaga meron work ouput din naman kase yan..
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playing is not a business :-)
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SAKIN CYEMPRE PEPPERFORM ako!! :-D eh nung highschool ako kahit walang bayad experience lng pinapatulan namin saka di naman ako nag band dahil gusto kong yumaman("Well 2nd lang yun") pero ang main goal ko e ma share ko ung music na gusto kong iexpress sa mga tao at yung enjoyment na un ay di nababayaran ng pera!! :-D ung nakikita natin sa tv un ang ginagawang business ang pagiging musicians.
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Eh pano kung dati, binabayaran ka. yung tipong "bayad" talaga. siguro talent fee ng banda nyo, at least 8k. tig 2k kayo lagi o lets say, below 1k. Tapos biglang mawawala.. ang tanong
papayag ka ba ulit na tumugtog for free kung alam mo na na, pwede ka pala bayaran ng ganun kalaki? :?
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I'd play for free,especially for charity purposes and fund raisers. Exposure din yun db?
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tutugtog kamim kahit walang bayad.. maka tug tog lang naman gusto namin eh..
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i can see two sides here, the working and the students.
Most of the time, students are the ones who don't mind playing for free, and the working (meaning di na nag-aaral, may sarili na raket sa mundo) are those who wants to be paid kahit na yung travel expenses lang. Correct me if i'm wrong, all of us have passion to play. But to those who are much older, mature and do work 8 hours a day or more may play for free sometimes but, andun pa rin yung feeling na "hindi ba pwedeng ma-reimburse kahit pamasahe lang?". Honestly for me, kahit na magtunog mayabang ako, my band has been playing in the scene here in Dagupan since 1997, on and off ang gigs namin hindi tulad ng dati, kasi all of us are working and some have families. kaya not all the time, pwede kami tumugtog ng libre. Although gustuhin man namin, we have to think about travel allowance, food allowance and kahit papano, reimbursement ng pinangpractice namin. Kasi gumagamit pa rin kami ng kuryente sa studio namin.
At least for the students, they have their allowance na hinihingi sa magulang, and the single dudes who they spend their wages for themselves. Pero pag may family ka na, sometimes you think twice if it's still worth it. Oo, andun yung passion mo, pero hindi ka mabubuhay sa passion lang....
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ako ayos lang basta masaya!hehehe
lalo na if its for a charity.its a pleasure performing
for the sick & less fortunate people. :lol: