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Title: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: BALDO on November 08, 2008, 04:35:44 PM
i'm just curious about the way this speaker should be positioned.. nakatayo ba o nakahiga??? nakikita ko kasi minsan na iba din ang pagkaka PRINT ng letters.. me naka tayo at me nakahiga.. does this mean dapat naka position yung speakers according to the " PRINT"?
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: alien_inside on November 08, 2008, 04:52:58 PM
I hav an NS10. But it is NS10M Pro ( another Version Siguro to ) kasi the more popular one is the NS10M Studio... I bought one from Guitar Central ( calif. )

This is also my question to the MASTERS...pero yung sa akin pinahiga ko...

(http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/92/67/82177629/1_338108087l.jpg)
(http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/92/67/82177629/1_525011916l.jpg)

but the MASTERS have different answers and opinions...
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: BALDO on November 08, 2008, 04:59:25 PM
yes..pero sa mga nakikita kong mga malalaking studios, nakahiga palagi yung NS 10.. 8-)
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: LouieAzcona on November 08, 2008, 05:33:55 PM
ako din puro nakahiga nakikita ko. Sa studio na pinagrecordan namin chka sa youtube.
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: alien_inside on November 08, 2008, 08:04:26 PM
ok. most studios...
pero, try to look at the pigtail glue ( yung dalawang itim ), my speakers pigtails are on the sides... Yung mga NS10 na STUDIO ang model, are pointing DOWN>>

http://www.sonicstate.com/digital/model.cfm?modelID=1483
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: astrobog on November 08, 2008, 08:46:13 PM
@Baldo, Musta?

about NS10, sa akin wala naman tama kung nakahiga or nakatayo, pati left or right, depende sa set-up mo, pati room. Try mo nakahiga, nakatayo, pati distance ng left & right, distance from engineer, height.. basta naririnig mo ung tamang phase, freq etc. importante kung saan ka comfortable.. ung PRINT, tatak lang yon  :-)

sa studio namin sa taas pala, "nakatayo" :-)

shinji
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: alien_inside on November 09, 2008, 02:23:21 PM
astrobog...
i saw your post at the Directory.
some forumites commented about the nakahiga na speakers ko... di ko lang maalala kung saan dito yung post. pero they have different opinions...
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: astrobog on November 09, 2008, 03:34:28 PM
Dati nakahiga din ang set-up ko mga 6years, tapos mula noong lumipat ako ng studio sinubukan ko ung nakahiga at nakatayo, mas ok sa akin ung nakatayo, yon lang.. mas gusto ko yata nakatutok sa tenga ko ung woofer or bagay lang sa room ko.. pwede mo naman i-try ung nakahiga at kung hindi ok sayo ibalik mo lang, madali lang. May kilala akong engineer sa japan, ang set-up niya nakatayo tapos nasa taas pa ung woofer! yon ang gusto niya at ang gaganda ng mga mix niya  :-)
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: alien_inside on November 09, 2008, 08:13:13 PM
how about your closest ( most ideal ) distance from the speakers when MIXING?
@astrobog's studio: is that 4 ft. or more?
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: astrobog on November 09, 2008, 11:56:38 PM
Recently hindi ako nagmimix sa NS-10, noong April nagmix ako ng isang album ginamit ko ung NS-10 dahil nasira ang Fostex ko, noong time na yon mga 4ft yata ung distance. madalas din kasi ako nagbabago ng set-up ng monitor kaya hindi ko natatandaan..
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: mikep on November 10, 2008, 03:11:02 AM
There are actually no set rules regarding near field monitor placements.  Some engineers prefer their NS10s to be by their sides; some are standing up.  Depends on your preference.  But if you put them by the side, make sure the woofers are inside and the tweeters outside for better stereo spread.  In our case, our mixers being huge, the equilateral distance of our NS10s vs a vis the mix position is about 6 to 8 ft, positioned in such as way that the high frequency drivers' convergent points are about 1 to 2 feet away from the back of the head of the mix engineer.

BTW, originally, the tweeters of the NS10Ms are to be covered with tissue paper as they are suppose to be very bright.  The NS10 Pros though were suppose to have been compensated already that the tissue matter is removed completely.  Bob Clearmountain used this practice in his monitoring.

FWIW
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: alien_inside on November 10, 2008, 08:54:49 AM
My NS10 came with its dedicated front cover.
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: mikep on November 10, 2008, 03:49:30 PM
My NS10 came with its dedicated front cover.

If you are talking about the speaker grille, the practice is to remove that when mixing, then put tissue paper on the tweeters only.  But, like I said, the practice  has been long gone.

FWIW
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: KitC on November 10, 2008, 03:51:45 PM
Interesting article on NS10s and tissue paper:

http://www.bobhodas.com/tissue.html
Title: Re: Yamaha NS10's
Post by: alien_inside on November 10, 2008, 05:52:31 PM
My NS10 came with its dedicated front cover.

And to get rid off NICOTINE STAINS to the woofer... naalala ko si Rey Palac with very YELLOWISH NS-10s sa studio nya. way back 1994 yata. sa GSP...