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Title: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on January 19, 2009, 01:33:26 AM
I need your help pro audio peeps, how can exactly tell if a shure SM57 is fake or not.
I found one for a whopping 1.7K brand new. I know it's too good to be true but let's just say the store where I found it could be too stupid to price it or too desperate to sell it because I am 99% certain people who go there would never buy the mic. :lol:

Upon visual examination, I can't see anything that may prove it's non-authenticity. :lol:

Wait, do SM57's come in a special box/case or do they just come in mass produced cheap boxes?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: skunkyfunk on January 19, 2009, 07:25:14 AM
I need your help pro audio peeps, how can exactly tell if a shure SM57 is fake or not.
I found one for a whopping 1.7K brand new. I know it's too good to be true but let's just say the store where I found it could be too stupid to price it or too desperate to sell it because I am 99% certain people who go there would never buy the mic. :lol:

Upon visual examination, I can't see anything that may prove it's non-authenticity. :lol:

Wait, do SM57's come in a special box/case or do they just come in mass produced cheap boxes?

hologram sticker

The sound too.  The copies tend to have less output and weaker highs.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: abyssinianson on January 19, 2009, 11:19:56 AM
some details off the top of my head:

-real shure mics will comes with a warranty sheet and a satin finish sticker as well as a leatherette bag. fake ones will have neither and will have a "pleather" bag instead.
-real shure sm57s have NO bevel on the bottom of its casing where the XLR plug goes , this part will be one solid part. the fake ones have a 2 step bevel on the bottom of the mic.
-the real shure mics are heavy and the casing is colored much darker in comparison to the fake (greyish color)
-the real shures come in a glossy box with a hologram sticker to indicate autheticity. sm57s come in the bag, there is no hard case for the 57 like you see on the SM81 and the other more expensive mics, just a nice bag.
-NO real shure comes in a cheap mass produced box and there are no OEM versions of the mic which can get sold in a cheap box.

if in doubt, borrow someone's real sm57 and bring it along. the differences are very obvious...that is unless the bastards have gotten better at duplicating them.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: LouieAzcona on January 20, 2009, 03:48:27 AM
safe bang sabihin na kapag sa "safe" na lugar ka bumili, yung jb at audiophile sa mga malls, eh assured na orig?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: d6ynast9y on January 20, 2009, 10:49:56 AM
google this topic, you'll get hundreds of webistes differentiating original shure mics to fake ones.. :-D
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: abyssinianson on January 21, 2009, 03:43:24 AM
safe bang sabihin na kapag sa "safe" na lugar ka bumili, yung jb at audiophile sa mga malls, eh assured na orig?

should be but it all depends on who the supplier of the items are.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: alien_inside on January 23, 2009, 02:50:45 AM
soundcheck with spectrum analyzer
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: skynums on January 23, 2009, 01:27:34 PM
found it at acapella.harmony-central.com forum posted by their senior member named "jonPhillips". thanks to him now i know how to spot fake shure mics!

Quote
Look at the XLR connector on the bottom.
On authentic Shure microphones, each of the XLR pins will be labeled as 1, 2, and 3. Most fake microphones will not have these markings, and instead, will have some sort of connector branding logo or, more commonly, no markings at all.

Look under the hood of the SM58.
Unscrew the windscreen from your SM58 microphone. Examine the bottom of the windscreen; on the metal ring that goes around the thread, you'll notice a lip. A flat lip is a telltale sign of a fake microphone; the authentic SM58 will have a rounded edge.

Look at the capsule on the top of the microphone. On fake SM58, you'll find a "CAUTION" sticker wrapped around the capsule head. This is not on authentic microphones.

On both the SM58 and SM57, carefully unscrew the microphone in the middle. You'll see the inside of the microphone, with two wires leading between the sections. On the genuine microphones, these are yellow and green colored, and on many fakes, they've followed this color scheme; however, if they're a different color, chances are you're looking at a fake.

Now, look at the circuit board on the lower half. Genuine microphones will have a quality control stamp in red lettering. These will be omitted on the counterfeit mics.

Look & weight of the microphone
On the SM58, underneath the ring where the windscreen connects to the body, there's a printed "Shure SM58" logo. On counterfeit microphones, you'll find that this is a sticker wrapped around the mic itself. A sticker is common on SM57 microphones, but look carefully at the font and the type spacing -- on fakes, it'll be a little wider spacing and a much smaller font.

On both microphones, fake microphones will weigh noticeably less than authentic mics.

Check the box
Microphone counterfeiters have become very good at making Shure packaging look convincing, but one of the sure-fire ways to find out if your mic is fake is to look inside the box.

Authentic mics ship with accessories including a microphone clip, cloth cable tie, Shure sticker, carrying pouch, manual, and warranty card. Fake microphones tend not to include all of these accessories; most obviously missing is the warranty card and cable tie.

Another thing to watch out for: make sure the model number listed on the box matches what's inside. Many counterfeit Shure microphones come with a cable in the box; the only Shure microphone that includes a cable is the Shure SM58-CN. If the box includes a cable but isn't labeled with the proper model number, then you may have a fake mic. Also, some fake SM58 come with a switch attached; the model number should read SM58S. The plain ol' SM58 will be listed as SM58-LC.

Last but not least... listen!
A fake SM58 will sound very bright and harsh with moderate gain applied. A genuine 58 will sound like, well, a 58 -- smooth in the lows and midrange, with a slightly recessed and pleasant high end. A genuine 57 will give lush midrange tone with great low end response -- a counterfeit will not produce similar results.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 10, 2010, 02:57:35 PM
http://fakesm57.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: karlwilson on June 10, 2010, 09:46:06 PM
sana madagdagan pa info dito..kung sino man mabait dyan share your photos of your orig shure mics..hehe.para sa mga noob sa mic tulad ko.. :?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: KitC on June 11, 2010, 09:16:22 AM
I don't know if they still have those cheap 'Shure' mics in SM Appliance Center, but I wouldn't buy those. I checked one previously and the mic body was made of stamped metal instead of milled aluminum!  :x
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 11, 2010, 02:29:40 PM
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/archive/index.php/t-2101768.html

pics  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: sikyo on June 11, 2010, 05:51:25 PM
ingat talaga dapat. if we compare the prices of orig Shure mics from different reputable stores di sila nagkakalayo. pag malaki difference, i'm almost sure fake yun. i've compared the prices and found Audiophile's to be okay (may konting discount pa that increases as you buy more items, so maganda kung ipunin at sabay-sabay bilin). i'm not from Audiophile, am just a satisfied customer  :-D




MAKING SOUND MATTER
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 11, 2010, 09:08:20 PM
ito yung nakuha ko kay electrosushi

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6104/shuresm57.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/shuresm57.jpg/)

(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5619/shuresm574.th.jpg) (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/shuresm574.jpg/)

(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/3770/shuresm573.th.jpg) (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/shuresm573.jpg/)

(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5580/shuresm578.th.jpg) (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/shuresm578.jpg/)

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7448/shuresm577.th.jpg) (http://img529.imageshack.us/i/shuresm577.jpg/)

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4831/shuresm576.th.jpg) (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/shuresm576.jpg/)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/907/shuresm575.th.jpg) (http://img13.imageshack.us/i/shuresm575.jpg/)

(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/222/shuresm572.th.jpg) (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/shuresm572.jpg/)

(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5060/shuresm571.th.jpg) (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/shuresm571.jpg/)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: BAMF on June 11, 2010, 10:51:07 PM
may thread na tayo dito sa MTPA where we A/B'ed a fake vs a real SM57. The fake one is thinner sounding. Google mo na lang.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: karlwilson on June 12, 2010, 07:00:10 PM
ito yung nakuha ko kay electrosushi

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6104/shuresm57.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/i/shuresm57.jpg/)



original ba lahat ng Shure mics na for sale ni Electrosushi sir arkee?thanks
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 13, 2010, 06:44:38 AM
original ba lahat ng Shure mics na for sale ni Electrosushi sir arkee?thanks

soundcheck  :lol:

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9265513

strat> mambalaw > reverb >roalnd bc30 >sm57 >ux2 > pc

2" to the right from center cone

ok naman mula box, laman ng box, at mismong mic, kaya ako nag post ng pics para makita n'yo yung nakuha ako at malaman kung orig hindi, gumawa ako sample para madinig din, gagawa pa ko ngayong araw  :lol:

pero mukha namang legit  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: hayewire on June 13, 2010, 08:52:11 AM
meron ako na encounter na fake sa shure PG58, dala ko yung original ko na PG58 bili ko sa audiophile, compare ko sa binibenta napansin ko agad yung weight mas mabigat orig, yung logo ng shure sa fake nde masyadung puti yung kulay, yung switch wala ako napansin pagkakaiba,yung marking sa ilalim na 1,2,3, at shure meron din, yung grille wala ako napansin na pagkaka iba,yung binuksan ko yung grill inikot medyo maganit nde smooth pihitin, pag wala ka experience sa orig na shure at nde ka sa official distributor bumili ingatz, sa shure SM57 no comment wala pa kasi ako nun  :-D
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: karlwilson on June 13, 2010, 03:58:54 PM
soundcheck  :lol:

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9265513

strat> mambalaw > reverb >roalnd bc30 >sm57 >ux2 > pc

2" to the right from center cone

ok naman mula box, laman ng box, at mismong mic, kaya ako nag post ng pics para makita n'yo yung nakuha ako at malaman kung orig hindi, gumawa ako sample para madinig din, gagawa pa ko ngayong araw  :lol:

pero mukha namang legit  :lol:

linis ah!nice guitar playing too..tnx  :-o
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 14, 2010, 06:53:50 AM
linis ah!nice guitar playing too..tnx  :-o

kuha ka na  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: jamming_papu on June 14, 2010, 03:16:02 PM
baka next month ako na rin  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: stilljey on June 14, 2010, 04:24:12 PM
share ko lang my orig sm57 with sticker, bought at Audiophile last year.

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/Picture018.jpg)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/Picture008.jpg)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/Picture006-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: karlwilson on June 14, 2010, 04:31:05 PM
share ko lang my orig sm57 with sticker, bought at Audiophile last year.

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/Picture018.jpg)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/Picture008.jpg)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/Picture006-1.jpg)

how much at that time sir?ty
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 14, 2010, 05:07:01 PM
pansin ko lang mas mataba yung font ng SM57 nung nakuha ni stilljey compare sa nakuha ko at
walang hologram sticker  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: stilljey on June 14, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
pansin ko lang mas mataba yung font ng SM57 nung nakuha ni stilljey compare sa nakuha ko at
walang hologram sticker  :lol:


then yung thread nya at paligid ng steel ay super kinis at makintab talaga, medyo malabo lang ang shots ko mali kasi ng focus,


then magkaiba rin yung box natin, yung sayo white ang ibabaw, ito yung box ng sm57 ko

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/Picture021.jpg)

(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/Picture020.jpg)

Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: stilljey on June 14, 2010, 05:49:28 PM
how much at that time sir?ty

P4,980....nakatabi pa yung resibo  :-D
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 14, 2010, 05:50:35 PM

then yung thread nya at paligid ng steel ay super kinis at makintab talaga, medyo malabo lang ang shots ko mali kasi ng focus,


then magkaiba rin yung box natin, yung sayo white ang ibabaw, ito yung box ng sm57 ko


agree with the box, ngayon ko lang din nakita yung ganyang itsura based sa nakapost dito

http://acapella.harmony-central.com/archive/index.php/t-2101768.html

no doubt kung sa audiophile nakuha, mainam 'to nagkakaroon ng comparison  :lol:
kung hindi man ganun ka orig nakuha ko, sa price at output naman ng sound wala na kong irereklamo  :lol:
P4,980....nakatabi pa yung resibo  :-D

sakto lang ah ngayon sabi ng iba nasa 7k na daw  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 14, 2010, 05:52:41 PM
ito nakita ko sa ibang forum
(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7346/fake7lp4.th.jpg) (http://img821.imageshack.us/i/fake7lp4.jpg/)
(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4517/fake6if4.th.jpg) (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/fake6if4.jpg/)
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9060/fake4gj5.th.jpg) (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/fake4gj5.jpg/)

bro kelan mo pala nabili yung sm57 mo? saka pala baka may soundclip ka? comparison na rin sana sa sound? thanks :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: karlwilson on June 14, 2010, 06:27:35 PM
P4,980....nakatabi pa yung resibo  :-D
oh my...kay electrosushi Shure SM57 is 3,300 only..correct me if im wrong..in his fb account he state that "I will not sell or offer you Fakes."
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 14, 2010, 06:31:33 PM
oh my...kay electrosushi Shure SM57 is 3,300 only..correct me if im wrong..in his fb account he state that "I will not sell or offer you Fakes."

mismo, kaya nag pm ako kay darwin baka pwede s'yang makapag bigay feedback dito sa thread  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: stilljey on June 14, 2010, 06:34:16 PM
sakto lang ah ngayon sabi ng iba nasa 7k na daw  :lol:

what!!   :-o  ang laki pala ng itinaas ng price
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 14, 2010, 06:39:57 PM
what!!   :-o  ang laki pala ng itinaas ng price

ah last year mo lang pala nabili mic mo, hindi ko agad nakita, sabi lang naman s'kin pero ang standard price n'ya sa mga guitarcenter nasa $98-$100, kaya yung pagkakabili mo oks na oks, kaya hindi rin ako basta makakabili kung ganun ang price ng mic kaya nung nalaman ko yung kay electrosushi kinuha ko na  :lol:
pero aminado ako na may doubt ako dahil sa price, pero nung nakuha ko na, ok naman, nung pinakita mo na yung nakuha mo, nag pm ako kay darwin para lang makapag bigay s'ya feedback dito
dahil online store naman s'ya at walang tinatago  :lol:

galing sa isang satisfied customer ni electrosushi  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: electrosushi on June 15, 2010, 01:33:44 AM
hi peeps!

darwin here from electrosushi. hope everyone's alright today.

hmm.. where do i start?

the SHURE's are real.

as far as i know, lately na lang nagkaron ng hologram seal ang mga mics to counter the fakes. packaging changes din once in a while. hologram seals and high prices are definitely not guarantees that the item is original and not a counterfeit. imagine, kung may fake ako and the price point issue is raised, e di magtataas na lang ako ng presyo ng at least P6500 di ba? it will look more believable that the item is authentic, right? everyone knows madali lang magpagawa ng hologram stickers. pumunta ka lang sa ROBEE and drop your order there. the difference in font, kaya din magpagawa non. ive seen a lot of fake SHUREs. ang layo talaga ng itsura and there are a lot of things wrong with it. honestly, i priced it real low para ma dispacha na yung mga items, thats all. on a side note, di rin ako naniniwalang pag bumili ka sa authorized dealers, you're always assured of getting the real deal. galing ako sa retail and fu.cked-up corporate world. maraming strategies and ways unscrupulous companies cut-corners in turn for bigger profits. for example: company A will get all the fakes company B is making and sell them as authentic and make a bigger profit, since it is cheaper and more cost efficient to simply source the item from company B. sorry, remnants of my former job is kicking in, hehe. my apologies.

i agree with the poster who commented above that the original mics have some heft/bigat to it. may bigat talaga ang orig, ang fake, ampaw-like. that observation is always consistent. plus, more importantly, check the sound. fake mics are $H1TTY - sounding. it all boils down to the sound. that is also consistent.

if anybody wants to check the mics, please feel free to do so. may address and contact details ako sa facebook. here's my site: www.facebook.com/electrosushi. marami ding guitars jan. if you should doubt authenticity, please TRY to give it a look in person na lang. also check my feedback na rin at the DISCUSSIONS TAB. jan naka-comment yung mga bumili sa kin.

yun lang for now. have a nice day!

Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: electrosushi on June 15, 2010, 01:51:39 AM
oh, before you head on to our place to check the mics, text muna kayo. minsan nauubos din stocks ko nun.

thanks!
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 15, 2010, 07:46:03 AM
cool input darwin =)


Arkeetar - riff6
http://soundclick.com/share?songid=9273476

strat> mambalaw > dl8 > reverb > roland bc30 > sm57 >ux2 > pc

ito pa isang nagawa ko for reference  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Boxedking on June 15, 2010, 08:52:47 AM
Nice move Carlo, for giving Darwin a head's up!  :-)

Naisip ko rin yun sinabi ni Darwin na dinidispatsa lang nya yun remaining stocks kaya mura lang nya binebenta yun sm57. Sana may abutan pa akong stock. Pamatay talaga yan demo mo na yan! Nakakagas!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 15, 2010, 09:27:27 AM
Nice move Carlo, for giving Darwin a head's up!  :-)

Naisip ko rin yun sinabi ni Darwin na dinidispatsa lang nya yun remaining stocks kaya mura lang nya binebenta yun sm57. Sana may abutan pa akong stock. Pamatay talaga yan demo mo na yan! Nakakagas!!!  :lol:

hehe para mawala yung doubt sa items ni darwin kasi kung sakali pare parehas naman tayo mag benefit dito
everybody happy  :-D

ot: nag pm ako s'yo bro, kaka problem ako sa installation ng software  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: karlwilson on June 15, 2010, 10:03:16 AM
ayus.. :evil:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: jamming_papu on June 16, 2010, 12:37:31 AM
Nice move Carlo, for giving Darwin a head's up!  :-)

...  Nakakagas!!!  :lol:


my thoughts exactly. sana may maabutan din ako.  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on June 16, 2010, 07:02:45 AM
letzghedhiton!!!!  :-D
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: king_james on June 19, 2010, 03:25:18 PM
Guys, the HOLOGRAPHIC sticker will make our lives easier in determining which is which.  Alot of importers from mainland China are bringing in the fakes to make a lot of money.  Not to mention Indian nationals too.  Just buy from any Audiophile outlet to get the real stuff  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: km-r on June 21, 2010, 05:04:25 PM
i remember the early days i was so excited nung nakakita ako ng Shure Beta58 P650 lang. Pinakyaw ko... In a weeks time ginawa ko nang pambato sa mga asong gala.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on July 21, 2010, 01:14:39 PM
UP ko lang to. :-)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: tjlimjoco on July 21, 2010, 02:50:52 PM
SiRs, mas 0k pa diN bumili ng maHal na LEGAL kaysa sa mdy0 mura na galing namaN sa kaduda-duda . . .  :roll:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on July 22, 2010, 07:33:41 AM
SiRs, mas 0k pa diN bumili ng maHal na LEGAL kaysa sa mdy0 mura na galing namaN sa kaduda-duda . . .  :roll:

may nag pm nga s'kin ng ganito, kung sakali man tama or hindi,
malalaman ko lang talaga pag na compare ko yung galing sa audiophile, pero sa ngayon,
yung output na nagagawa ko gamit yung mic ay sakto pa rin sa expectations ko...

regardless sa price or kung fake man or hindi... yung output pa rin ang importante s'kin  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Boxedking on July 22, 2010, 07:37:47 AM
may nag pm nga s'kin ng ganito, kung sakali man tama or hindi,
malalaman ko lang talaga pag na compare ko yung galing sa audiophile, pero sa ngayon,
yung output na nagagawa ko gamit yung mic ay sakto pa rin sa expectations ko...

regardless sa price or kung fake man or hindi... yung output pa rin ang importante s'kin  :lol:
+100!!! May nagpm din sa kin sa FB ng ganyan bro.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on July 22, 2010, 07:44:37 AM
+100!!! May nagpm din sa kin sa FB ng ganyan bro.

ok din naman yung ginawa, mabuti naman ang intentions ng nag message
makakatulong kaya kung mag post ng soundclip yung owners ng sm57 na galing audiophile?

meron na tayong share ng s'tin, para dagdag info na rin  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Boxedking on July 22, 2010, 07:57:30 AM
ok din naman yung ginawa, mabuti naman ang intentions ng nag message
makakatulong kaya kung mag post ng soundclip yung owners ng sm57 na galing audiophile?

meron na tayong share ng s'tin, para dagdag info na rin  :lol:
May mga nadinig na kong recording and demos sa youtube at soundclick. Pareho lang ng warmth at pickup response.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on July 22, 2010, 08:04:15 AM
May mga nadinig na kong recording and demos sa youtube at soundclick. Pareho lang ng warmth at pickup response.

yun naman pala oh :lol:
sa ngayon wala pa talagang proof na fake, kung may makakapag patunay
ang pinaka mainam na lang naman gawin wag ng "endorse" sa iba,

pero sa ngayon "innocent until proven guilty" ang dating  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: electrosushi on July 22, 2010, 11:11:57 AM
ok din naman yung ginawa, mabuti naman ang intentions ng nag message
makakatulong kaya kung mag post ng soundclip yung owners ng sm57 na galing audiophile?

meron na tayong share ng s'tin, para dagdag info na rin  :lol:

+1,000,000.001, caloy.

add ko lang: if that holographic sticker helps you sleep better at night, by all means, don't let anyone stop you and get the one at audiophile. man, i'm all for it.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Boxedking on July 22, 2010, 11:40:49 PM
add ko lang: if that holographic sticker helps you sleep better at night, by all means, don't let anyone stop you and get the one at audiophile. man, i'm all for it.

Sticker na pala basehan kung legit o hindi ang isang item at hindi na ang performance ng product. *sigh*
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: skyjammer on July 23, 2010, 12:40:29 AM
Even if it's got the holographic stickers or the seems-right packaging or the right performance, if it's not coming from the manufacturer it says on its brand -- it's a fake. Best thing to do is buy from authorized distributors/resellers. Then hope somebody from our new government will review our existing policies on tax/tariff for imports so that prices will go down.

For now, I'd rather stick to my Behringers and Wharfedales than patronize the fake cheapos (they work pretty well, by the way) that will eventually bring down the brands we so love.

Disclaimer: Unless Behringer and maybe Wharfedale as well are found guilty in court for imitating other brands, I consider them legit. :)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: king_james on July 23, 2010, 01:22:33 AM
The Holographic sticker is placed there to give a distinguishing mark that the piece is basically genuine.  Now, since a handful of members here claim that their Shure mics bought locally from a non-Audiophile source and without a Holographic sticker are also genuine (and cheaper), then well and good.  If they are "not fakes", how can they come up with such cheaper prices?  Were they SMUGGLED in or yet do they pay the right TAXES . . . ??? :-o   :-o These are just normal questions that we buyers ask whenever we encounter such "too good to be true" deals right?   :roll:  :roll:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: jamming_papu on July 23, 2010, 07:12:51 PM
... Then hope somebody from our new government will review our existing policies on tax/tariff for imports so that prices will go down.




this..... :-)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: tjlimjoco on July 24, 2010, 05:11:52 PM
The Holographic sticker is placed there to give a distinguishing mark that the piece is basically genuine.  Now, since a handful of members here claim that their Shure mics bought locally from a non-Audiophile source and without a Holographic sticker are also genuine (and cheaper), then well and good.  If they are "not fakes", how can they come up with such cheaper prices?  Were they SMUGGLED in or yet do they pay the right TAXES . . . ??? :-o   :-o These are just normal questions that we buyers ask whenever we encounter such "too good to be true" deals right?   :roll:  :roll:

 :wink:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on August 09, 2010, 09:17:16 PM
Bro Arkee ngayon ko lang napasin yung nakuha ninyo kay Electrosoushi na sm57 ay ito:
(http://a.imageshack.us/img13/907/shuresm575.jpg)
Pero based sa inyo na nakuha ninyo dito:
(http://a.imageshack.us/img821/3639/fake3jd7.jpg)
Lumalabas fake yung nakuha ninyo kay Electrosoushi tama ba? :?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Boxedking on August 09, 2010, 09:31:28 PM
@Xelly
Mine is like the real one on the second pic.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on August 09, 2010, 09:49:48 PM
@Xelly
Mine is like the real one on the second pic.
Ah ok. May nahiram akong PG58 katulad din nung REAL sa 2nnd pic!! Natuwa lang ako sir!! Hehe
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on August 10, 2010, 08:25:28 AM
Ah ok. May nahiram akong PG58 katulad din nung REAL sa 2nnd pic!! Natuwa lang ako sir!! Hehe

yup, kaya ko post yung 2 image para comparison, yung nakuha namin based sa "real" nung 2nd image,
may no. saka yung silver na wala sa "fake"  :lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: electrosushi on August 10, 2010, 09:04:00 AM
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Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: hayewire on August 10, 2010, 09:07:51 AM
add ko lang po mga sir naka encounter na din ako ng fake na PG58 dala ko yung orig compare ko side by side.

1. yung pin # 1,2,3 sa ilalim at metal na maliit same din sa orig.
2. switch same din.
3. yung capsule same din.
4. windscreen same din.

difference sa orig
1. yung weight mas mabigat yung orig
2. yung logo madyo maputla pagka puti orig mas maputi
4. medyo iba taba ng font logo ng shure fake.

medyo mahirap mahalata pag wala ka comparison side by side ng same model.

3. yung windscreen pag kinalas mo sa fake medyo maganit kalasin, orig smooth
4. yung pouch iba din tahi lang yung tatak na shure sa orig naka lubog or ukit.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on August 11, 2010, 03:41:46 PM
yup, kaya ko post yung 2 image para comparison, yung nakuha namin based sa "real" nung 2nd image,
may no. saka yung silver na wala sa "fake"  :lol:
Ah ok bro Arkee ayus!! :-)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on September 03, 2010, 10:57:14 PM
May kukunin akong SM57 bukas sa super babang halaga and malaki naitulong ng thread na ito!! Salamat mga sir!!! :-D
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on September 04, 2010, 04:49:29 AM
May kukunin akong SM57 bukas sa super babang halaga and malaki naitulong ng thread na ito!! Salamat mga sir!!! :-D

congrats!  :-D
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: mcjefferson on March 31, 2011, 04:37:37 PM
Hi,

Nakabili po ko ng pg58 sa audyssey sm fairview i'm confused if it is orig or not 100% no idea at all.
Got it at the price of Php1,970, eto po yung mga na observe ko yung mic clip nya ay walang copper sa thread which is all plastic, and yung windshield pag inikot smooth naman pero hindi ko makita yung sa ilalim ng mga wires matigas po kase at hindi matangal.
What are your thoughts? Do i get the real one?

Maraming salamat po.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: KitC on March 31, 2011, 04:46:58 PM
Hi,

Nakabili po ko ng pg58 sa audyssey sm fairview

Odyssey is not known to sell original Shure mics, but you spelled it audyssey. Is there a different branch over at fairview?

Jun? care to comment?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: mcjefferson on March 31, 2011, 05:08:09 PM
Sorry i spell odyssey wrong.
Here is the link of authorized dealers of shure mic in PH.
http://www.shurepa.com.ph/index.php/store/liststoresin/Quezon%20City (http://www.shurepa.com.ph/index.php/store/liststoresin/Quezon%20City)

Odyssey is mentioned in the above link but i'm still in doubt of my PG58, i'm totally ignorant of this stuff.
Also the package includes a cable but low quality which i read somewhere that genuine shure mic does not include cable in their package.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: KitC on March 31, 2011, 05:42:31 PM
I'm not too sure about the PG58 but my SM58 has a heft to it. Shure weighs down the handle with metal weights embedded in some kind of resin in my SM. The wires connecting the mic body to the capsule electronics are yellow and green; if you have 3 wires, then the mic is suspect. Also, the SM mic body is milled from a solid piece of aluminum. Most fakes use this sheet metal bodies.

The top of this thread lists the differences. Have a read and see if spot any with your PG.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: king_james on March 31, 2011, 10:08:25 PM
Just look for the holographic sticker even on the lower Shure series like the PG, C series and I think they even have the new SVX series. Without the sticker, it's probably just a replica.   :-) :-)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: mcjefferson on April 01, 2011, 02:21:49 PM
Here is the PG58 that i purchase, i cant tell if this is the real thing or not so pls help me. :cry:

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/mc_jefferson/31032011228.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/mc_jefferson/31032011227.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/mc_jefferson/31032011226.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/mc_jefferson/31032011224.jpg)

(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff108/mc_jefferson/31032011222.jpg)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: KitC on April 01, 2011, 03:43:08 PM
Best pic I could find of an original PG58 capsule: http://www.nowsound.co.nz/index.php/page/nsproduct/ps_type//ps_stockcode/RPM150/pi_brandid//pi_groupid//pi_categoryid/185

(http://www.nowsound.co.nz/products/large/RPM150.jpg)

note the top end of the capsule (right hand side of the pic) - the thing that looks like a shiny black button has 'SHURE' embossed on it. can't tell from your pics but the embossed logo looks different.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on November 20, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
Buhayin ko lang ang thread na ito. Kakakuha ko lang ng SM58 na binili ng relative ko bnew sa Amazon. Wala itong holographic sticker pero solve na solve akong genuine ito!! So safe bang sabihin na yung mga may holographic sticker eh yung mga nabibili lang na genuine dito sa bansa natin?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: palaka on November 20, 2012, 06:24:55 PM
Buhayin ko lang ang thread na ito. Kakakuha ko lang ng SM58 na binili ng relative ko bnew sa Amazon. Wala itong holographic sticker pero solve na solve akong genuine ito!! So safe bang sabihin na yung mga may holographic sticker eh yung mga nabibili lang na genuine dito sa bansa natin?

yung mga nabibili lang yata sa audiophile may hologram sticker, tama po ba mga sir?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on November 20, 2012, 06:35:39 PM
yung mga nabibili lang yata sa audiophile may hologram sticker, tama po ba mga sir?

Sa ngayon bro I assume audiophile na naglalagay ng holographic sticker sa shure mics na nididistribute nila. So I assume din na may mga genuine Shure mics din na walang holographic sticker kasi sa labas ng bansa binili at hindi sa Audiophile
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: KitC on November 21, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Sa ngayon bro I assume audiophile na naglalagay ng holographic sticker sa shure mics na nididistribute nila. So I assume din na may mga genuine Shure mics din na walang holographic sticker kasi sa labas ng bansa binili at hindi sa Audiophile

could be. got my SM58 from MF and verified MIM plus all the usual checks... no sticker.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on November 23, 2012, 11:56:15 AM
someday makakapag invest din ako ng orig na sm57  :drool:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on November 23, 2012, 03:59:53 PM
someday makakapag invest din ako ng orig na sm57  :drool:

May isa akong nagahasang beta 57 bro. Higher quality than sm57. Iniisip kong ibenta pm mo lang ako kung interested ka. :-)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on November 23, 2012, 08:19:25 PM
May isa akong nagahasang beta 57 bro. Higher quality than sm57. Iniisip kong ibenta pm mo lang ako kung interested ka. :-)

Thanks bro hehe sige pero sa ngayon wala ko karapatan mag gas hehe
Pati bonus ko bawal galawin hehe
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on November 23, 2012, 10:58:07 PM
Thanks bro hehe sige pero sa ngayon wala ko karapatan mag gas hehe
Pati bonus ko bawal galawin hehe

Tama yan bro magandang asal yan. :-)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: arkeetar on November 23, 2012, 11:14:41 PM
Tama yan bro magandang asal yan. :-)

Hehe kailangan ko magdispose ng gear kung gusto ko bago hehe
medyo saklap pero ganun talaga hehe

Pero nakatry na ko ng beta57 ayuz nga hehe

Nagagamit ko mic ngayon hindi sa recording, pag mic in ako sa PA sys at dala ko amp, hingi lang ako cable hehe
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on November 23, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
Hehe kailangan ko magdispose ng gear kung gusto ko bago hehe
medyo saklap pero ganun talaga hehe

Pero nakatry na ko ng beta57 ayuz nga hehe

Nagagamit ko mic ngayon hindi sa recording, pag mic in ako sa PA sys at dala ko amp, hingi lang ako cable hehe

Tama yan bro. Usually kasi bulok na mics ginagamit ng mga suppliers ng soundsystem pang mic sa amp.
Isa pang kwento paano naman ang pagdetect ng orig o fake na Shure beta mics? May mga fake na beta rin eh. Pero masmarami yung sm58/57 and masmahirap madetect.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: trixter_pit on January 12, 2013, 06:27:32 AM
I need your help pro audio peeps, how can exactly tell if a shure SM57 is fake or not.
I found one for a whopping 1.7K brand new. I know it's too good to be true but let's just say the store where I found it could be too stupid to price it or too desperate to sell it because I am 99% certain people who go there would never buy the mic. :lol:

Upon visual examination, I can't see anything that may prove it's non-authenticity. :lol:

Wait, do SM57's come in a special box/case or do they just come in mass produced cheap boxes?

there are lots of fake microphones arround....of course the price speaks for itself, buy from authorized dealers or resellers, sometimes you need to use or own an authentic one for you to know the fake ones, minsan pareho ang itsura, but the weight and the sound quality is different, Based  on my experiece before, there was one service provider in the middle east who sold me shure sm 58 mic, i bought 3 pcs. but we had an agreement if its fake i can return them,btw the mics came from europe, brought in by a european band.....:) so when i got them, i went to a friend and checked and compared from his ORIG, Sm 58....marami at malaki ang deperensya....but the copy really looks authentic muntik na nga rin ako...heeheheeheh, then i returned those mics and just bought from a dealer...of course all shure mic have mic bags and gives stickers, the boxes are not cheap not and the printing is not blur...the sound is also not blur sound of fake shure microphones sound thin...and no body...:) also weigh less than the originals also the sound is really far from the original ones.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: dekturrr on June 04, 2013, 01:52:06 AM
I just bought an SM58 kanina sa Audiophile.

Mejo halma hayek pero buti na lang nabasa ko tong thread na to at masasabi kong may peace of mind ako na genuine yung nabili ko.

Salamat sa thread!
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on June 04, 2013, 08:40:32 AM
I just bought an SM58 kanina sa Audiophile.

Mejo halma hayek pero buti na lang nabasa ko tong thread na to at masasabi kong may peace of mind ako na genuine yung nabili ko.

Salamat sa thread!

Yup bro kung sa AP ka bumili, DAPAT genuine yan. :-D
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: r_chino18 on June 05, 2013, 12:42:38 AM
I just bought an SM58 kanina sa Audiophile.

Mejo halma hayek pero buti na lang nabasa ko tong thread na to at masasabi kong may peace of mind ako na genuine yung nabili ko.

Salamat sa thread!

Same here. Peace of mind. Kakabili ko lang din sa Audiophile kanina ng SM57.  :-)
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: phrygian on June 06, 2013, 05:06:54 PM
Another thing to spot is when the seller seems fake, he/ she might be selling a fake one.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Xelly on June 06, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
Another thing to spot is when the seller seems fake, he/ she might be selling a fake one.
:lol:
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: dekturrr on June 07, 2013, 12:34:44 AM
Another thing to spot is when the seller seems fake, he/ she might be selling a fake one.

so dapat may bagong thread, how would you know if the seller is fake or not?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: phrygian on June 07, 2013, 11:44:00 AM
Example: may dumaan sa bahay sinisigaw Mic!!!! Headphone!!! Orig Mura lang!!! I asked what brand is he selling  sabi nya shure sennheiser.
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: Max_C on June 07, 2013, 02:43:33 PM
SIMPLE LANG NAMAN ANG GAGAWIN PARA IWAS SA MGA PEKENG GAMIT. HETO LANG:

BUMILI SA MGA AUTHORIZED DEALERS O BRANCHES. KUNG NASA PROBINSYA KAYO MAY MGA AUTHORIZED DEALERS DIN DYAN.

Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: hahaha! on May 24, 2014, 07:46:27 PM
ask ko lang po, magkano brandnew na SHURE SM58 sa audiophile?
Title: Re: Spotting Fake Microphones...
Post by: hanns1976 on May 31, 2014, 08:23:38 AM
we bought this sm 58 at miami usa circa 1999, it droped more than 50 times from mic stands and stage height, it never changed its performance.

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/imagejpg1.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/hanns76/media/imagejpg1.jpg.html)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/imagejpg1-1.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/hanns76/media/imagejpg1-1.jpg.html)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/imagejpg3.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/hanns76/media/imagejpg3.jpg.html)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/imagejpg2.jpg) (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/hanns76/media/imagejpg2.jpg.html)