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The Music Forums => The Rock Music Board => Topic started by: astralasukal on February 06, 2009, 12:23:19 AM
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Na-ooffend ako kapag tinatawag akong rakista...ewan lang. Kayo?
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lol hindi na, e pag nakatalikod naman 'sila' na hindi nakikinig sa ganitong musika, ginaganon mo rin naman sila kaya quits din, bayaan mo after 2 years matotolerate mo rin ito
typical yan sa tao at hindi mo din masisi na medyo corny din ang imahe na rock, kailangan lang dito marunong ka din matawa sa sarili, huwag masyado maging seryoso
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Yung huling tumawag sa akin ng "Rakista" kakukuha lang ng mga tao kanina sa ilog.
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tagalog lang yan for "rocker" eh.
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lol hindi na, e pag nakatalikod naman 'sila' na hindi nakikinig sa ganitong musika, ginaganon mo rin naman sila kaya quits din, bayaan mo after 2 years matotolerate mo rin ito
typical yan sa tao at hindi mo din masisi na medyo corny din ang imahe na rock, kailangan lang dito marunong ka din matawa sa sarili, huwag masyado maging seryoso
kasi pag tinawag kang rakista typecasted ka kagad. eh hindi lang naman rock gusto ko.
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Na-ooffend ako kapag tinatawag akong rakista...ewan lang. Kayo?
ngayon ko lang narinig to ah :-D
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ako hindi...
mas na o-offend ako pag sinasabihan akong gwapo. :-D
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ako hindi...
mas na o-offend ako pag sinasabihan akong gwapo. :-D
Ayuz!hahaha!
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Naging convenient na kasi para sa ibang tao 'yung pagbabansag ng 'rakista.' Basta alam nilang mahilig sa banda, "ay rakista 'yan!"
Sa totoo lang, wala na kong pake. Bahala na si Bruce Wayne sa kanila. :lol:
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rakista...punkista...yun ang tinawag sakin ng erpat ko habang binibigwasan ako nung nakita yung tattoo ko nung high school ako. hehehe...sanay na! :-D
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rakista?
la yan.
mga walang alam lang ang gumagamit ng term na yan.
kung may alam naman ung tao siguro naman di niya gagamitin yung term na rakista
IMO squatter term yan.
sa mga squatter ko lang naririnig yan eh...
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i dont really get offended but i still think its a stupid term.
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andito (http://rakista.com) yung mga rightful owners ng word na yan
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Mas na-ooffend ako kapag napapagkamalan akong babae.
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Ako hindi, pero maooffend ako pag sinabihan akong emo.
Peace! :D
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basta ang mga nagsasabi ng rakista di alam ang tunay na ibig sabihin ng \m/
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Rakistarakistarakistarakistarakistarakistarakistarakistarakistarakist arakistarakistarakistarakistarakistarakistaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa HHH!!!!
Enlighten me, please. Anybody. :lol:
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tagalog lang yan for "rocker" eh.
ewan ko lang sa inyo guys, pero I'm proud na tinatawag akong Rakista. tama si kuya, Rakista ay ang tagalog term for Rocker.
Kung hindi kayo rakista, ano tawag sa inyo? Posers? Emo? Punkista? Bandista? Musikero? Well, mas nahihiya nga akong tinatawag akong musikero kasi wala naman akong formal lessons sa instruments ko. para bang mas higher level pag tinawag kang Musikero.
rakista?
la yan.
mga walang alam lang ang gumagamit ng term na yan.
kung may alam naman ung tao siguro naman di niya gagamitin yung term na rakista
IMO squatter term yan.
sa mga squatter ko lang naririnig yan eh...
Isa pa, bakit naman squatter term un?
andito (http://rakista.com) yung mga rightful owners ng word na yan
so ano tawag mo sa mga bandang nakalista dito? hindi Rakista? So squatters lang ang tumawag sa kanila nito? hai.... sorry sa aggressiveness guys. I just can't stand that some guys don't know what the word "Rakista" means. You should be happy whenever you are called one unless you really are posers. :D
peace up bros.
I'm just telling my opinion, kasi ako masaya ako na tawaging Rakista.
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rakista?
la yan.
mga walang alam lang ang gumagamit ng term na yan.
kung may alam naman ung tao siguro naman di niya gagamitin yung term na rakista
IMO squatter term yan.
sa mga squatter ko lang naririnig yan eh...
HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE
lol ahh pag nasa ganitong edad ka nga naman talaga, parang galit ka sa lahat, apektado ka sa lahat, na alala ko lang, ganyan din ako nun e
ngayon kasi, wala na kong pake
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Kung hindi kayo rakista, ano tawag sa inyo? Posers? Emo? Punkista? Bandista? Musikero?
tao. hehe to be specific, an artist or someone who appreciates art (specifically the performing arts). :-)
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lmfao 'artist'
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so ano tawag mo sa mga bandang nakalista dito? hindi Rakista? So squatters lang ang tumawag sa kanila nito? hai.... sorry sa aggressiveness guys. I just can't stand that some guys don't know what the word "Rakista" means. You should be happy whenever you are called one unless you really are posers. :D
peace up bros.
I'm just telling my opinions, kasi ako masaya ako na tawaging Rakista.
BWAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAH! grabe pare, napatawa mo ako
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andito (http://rakista.com) yung mga rightful owners ng word na yan
di ko pinost yung rakista.com link para sabihing mga jologs yung andun...pero kaya sila andun eh gusto nilang natatawag na rakista...
ngayon, may mga taong ayaw na matatawag silang rakista...merong naka damit rakista pero jazz player..meron naka vans shoes pero blues ang sounds nya...ngayon ano magiging reaction mo kung classical guitar player ka pero tinawag kang rakista dahil lang sa mahaba at mala dimebag darrell ang buhok mo?
as for me, tinatanggap ko na lang na general term ng mga tao yan para sakin dahil di nila alam kung ano ang pinapakinggan at tinutugtog ko...like lets say may na meet kang mga girls na sossy, o kahit hindi sossy..they didnt know the kind of music you listen to...they will call you "rakista" na lang kasi yun ang mas kalat na term sa masa para ma-label-an ka kasi you dress up like the typical rocker/metalhead dude...
o yan naexplain ko na ha? :-D
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alam ko rakista yung mahilig sa bato hehe sosyal na adik sa shabu :lol:
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Yung huling tumawag sa akin ng "Rakista" kakukuha lang ng mga tao kanina sa ilog.
nice... sinalvage ba? >.<
wag kau kasi basta tawag ng tawag ng rakista... hahaha
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ewan ko lang sa inyo guys, pero I'm proud na tinatawag akong Rakista. tama si kuya, Rakista ay ang tagalog term for Rocker.
Kung hindi kayo rakista, ano tawag sa inyo? Posers? Emo? Punkista? Bandista? Musikero? Well, mas nahihiya nga akong tinatawag akong musikero kasi wala naman akong formal lessons sa instruments ko. para bang mas higher level pag tinawag kang Musikero.
okay na ung musician kahit wala ka masyadong formal lessons.
as long as you make music and have passion for it.
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ewan ko lang sa inyo guys, pero I'm proud na tinatawag akong Rakista. tama si kuya, Rakista ay ang tagalog term for Rocker.
Kung hindi kayo rakista, ano tawag sa inyo? Posers? Emo? Punkista? Bandista? Musikero? Well, mas nahihiya nga akong tinatawag akong musikero kasi wala naman akong formal lessons sa instruments ko. para bang mas higher level pag tinawag kang Musikero.
Isa pa, bakit naman squatter term un?
so ano tawag mo sa mga bandang nakalista dito? hindi Rakista? So squatters lang ang tumawag sa kanila nito? hai.... sorry sa aggressiveness guys. I just can't stand that some guys don't know what the word "Rakista" means. You should be happy whenever you are called one unless you really are posers. :D
peace up bros.
I'm just telling my opinions, kasi ako masaya ako na tawaging Rakista.
Emphasis on the underlined sentence. It's a matter of being typecasted as a "rocker" or rakista. Hindi naman pwede ang sabi mo pare, na kapag hindi ko gusto ang tawagin akong rakista eh poser na ko. Hindi ko alam sayo pero I think for everyone else it's really offending to be stereotyped. Can you give us a more in depth definition of a poser please?
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Emphasis on the underlined sentence. It's a matter of being typecasted as a "rocker" or rakista. Hindi naman pwede ang sabi mo pare, na kapag hindi ko gusto ang tawagin akong rakista eh poser na ko. Hindi ko alam sayo pero I think for everyone else it's really offending to be stereotyped. Can you give us a more in depth definition of a poser please?
every person has his/her own meaning of poser.
you could be a musician or a poser to some people.
depende sa paningin ng tao sayo.
youd be lucky enough if no one called you a poser.
but yes maybe a person or two ay pwede kang tawaging poser.
but it's because each one of us has a certain definition for it.
@ knightmiklotov
yes it's really offending to be stereotyped
plus purkit ayaw ko nang tawagin akong rakista doesn't make me a poser that instant.
i mean a lot of people would call you rocker/rakista pero the fact is that most people who tell you that don't know a thing therefore using the most common term for a guy/girl who is in a band.
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Ako hindi, pero maooffend ako pag sinabihan akong emo.
Peace! :D
true true bro.
parang eto na kasi ang nagiging next term para sa mga taong mahilig magbanda o makinig ng rock.
i mean come to think of it.
i'm a metalhead and yet they call me emo.
thats quite offending...
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buti na lang manicurista ako.
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true true bro.
parang eto na kasi ang nagiging next term para sa mga taong mahilig magbanda o makinig ng rock.
i mean come to think of it.
i'm a metalhead and yet they call me emo.
thats quite offending...
Tama sir!
buti na lang manicurista ako.
Nyahaha tama sir!
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I know !! I know !!
batang combo po !!, ako po ay isang batang combo !! :-D
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Don't be hatin' homies! This ain't a hate thread! Lolz!
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the term 'rakista' minsan ay parang nakakabadtrip pakinggan kasi parang sobrang 'commercialized' yung term. Nagiging selling point na ng mga negosyante hehe. It's a catch-all term para madefine at ma-profile ang isang target market. Effective talaga lalo na kung nagbebenta ka ng damit at 'rakista' fashion accessories. Ang mga true-blue 'rockers' ay nababanas sa salitang ito dahil ito ay isang manipestasyon na may mga pwersa na pilit na ginagawang sobrang mainstream at domestic ang konsepto ng 'rocker' na nagsimula naman talaga bilang counter-culture noong dekada 60-70's , tuloy napaghahalo ng madla lalo na ng kabataan ang 'pa-cute' boyband-teenie-bopper attitude at ang rocker culture. Ang resulta --- isang nakakabadtrip na hybrid -- RAKISTA. Naiinis ang mga tunay na 'rock musicians' kasi nasasama sila sa isang label na sya ring tawag sa mga pa-cute at nag-ro-rocker-rockeran na mga kabataan.
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Ang salitang rakista ay nababagay sa mga batang kakamulat lang sa rock music at kasalukuyang naadik dito at naging malaking impluwensya ito sakanila. Tapos magdadamit na sila ng puro itim at maguugaling rocker at makikipagslamman sa mga tugtugan. hehe
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andito (http://rakista.com) yung mga rightful owners ng word na yan
\m/QUESO MOTHERFüCKERS!\m/ :roll:
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BWAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAH! grabe pare, napatawa mo ako
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tagaUP pa man din ako at pinag-isipan ko pa yun sir ha. haha! it turned out mali din pla yun..
anyway, namulat ako sa mga views niyo. kasi all i thought ay, ang Rakista ay tagalog lang ng Rocker. simple lang kasi pagkaintindi ko. di ko inisip ang ibang interpretations. hehe. salamat sa inyo.
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tagaUP pa man din ako at pinag-isipan ko pa yun sir ha. haha! it turned out mali din pla yun..
anyway, namulat ako sa mga views niyo. kasi all i thought ay, ang Rakista ay tagalog lang ng Rocker. simple lang kasi pagkaintindi ko. di ko inisip ang ibang interpretations. hehe. salamat sa inyo.
lol...wag mo ko tawagin sir nak ng pateng di ako propesor mo :lol:
in-explain ko lang kung ano ang view ng ibang tao kasama na ako na hindi umaayon sa katagang "rakista"...
sa totoo lang, una kong narinig yang word na yan nung college ako...that was 5 years ago...tapos hindi pa sya kalat na term...pero ngayon kahit nagtitinda ng balot at tukneneng sa labas ng building namin eh rakista na ang tawag sakin...di ko na pansin dahil sobrang normal na nga...yung mga kaofis ko, rakista din ang bansag sakin..pero nawiwindang sila pag naririnig nila minsan sa headset ko na rnb ang pinapakinggan ko...minsan mas malala pa, jazz, soul...o kaya...avant garde! :lol:
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kung nag dadrayb ka nang jeepney, drayber ang tawag sa iyo hindi labandero
kung nag bebass ka sa banda, bahista ang tawag sayo hindi pilot
kung gumigitara ka sa banda, gitarista ang tawag sayo hindi basurero.
plain and simple, kung nakikinig ka at mahilig sa rock, rakista ang tawag sa yo.
so why the hell would I be offended by being called one because its exactly what its called heheheheheheeehe
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walang poser poser sa rock. may kanya kanyang levels of eliticism mga tao eh..... music is not something sacred that a chosen few can only enjoy. everyone has the right to like and enjoy music to his or her own way and interpretation.
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buti na lang manicurista ako. heheehehe
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kung nag dadrayb ka nang jeepney, drayber ang tawag sa iyo hindi labandero
kung nag bebass ka sa banda, bahista ang tawag sayo hindi pilot
kung gumigitara ka sa banda, gitarista ang tawag sayo hindi basurero.
plain and simple, kung nakikinig ka at mahilig sa rock, rakista ang tawag sa yo.
so why the hell would I be offended by being called one because its exactly what its called heheheheheheeehe
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walang poser poser sa rock. may kanya kanyang levels of eliticism mga tao eh..... music is not something sacred that a chosen few can only enjoy. everyone has the right to like and enjoy music to his or her own way and interpretation.
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buti na lang manicurista ako. heheehehe
What if for example gumigitara ka at the same time basurero ka rin? It really doesn't make sense what you did there.
There is such things as posers in anything, people will try to fit in and will not be themselves. I'm sure most of us encountered someone wearing Vans shoes and a Pantera shirt and they're not in a way involved with that kind of music.
Posers exist in rock music. I don't have a problem with people listening to music I don't like, but I have a problem with people who pretends just for the sake of being called a "rakista".
It's stereotyping that I hate, but then again who cares.
edit: Hindi ko sinasabing poser ang isang tao sa pagtingin lang, kakausapin ko muna sila
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What if for example gumigitara ka at the same time basurero ka rin? It really doesn't make sense what you did there.
There is such things as posers in anything, people will try to fit in and will not be themselves. I'm sure most of us encountered someone wearing Vans shoes and a Pantera shirt and they're not in a way involved with that kind of music.
Posers exist in rock music. I don't have a problem with people listening to music I don't like, but I have a problem with people who pretends just for the sake of being called a "rakista".
It's stereotyping that I hate, but then again who cares.
edit: Hindi ko sinasabing poser ang isang tao sa pagtingin lang, kakausapin ko muna sila
ang tawag dyan bro, gitarista na basurero.
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so does that mean i do not have the right to wear a Dillinger Escape Plan tshirt to a gig because i do not even know what the hell that band is?
wearing a band shirt is not a summary statement of a persons musical taste. my dad wears my pantera shirts to work, and it certainly does not make him a poser.... he wears it because he feels comfortable wearing it.
yun nga eh, rakista has its stereotypes. its just a label, they way we label a pickup a pickup, a truck a truck, and a sedan a sedan.
in analogy
A pickup the size of a sedan with small wheels should be called a poser car then? :-D
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my point sir is that music is nothing based on what you wear, what you know, and all the high and mighty going on in the music scene pissing on the posers and the kids.
we shouldn't care about the kids wearing makeup and dancing to Fall Out Boy while wearing Sepultura shirts.
they're having fun. its what makes them happy. we should respect them because for them it defines who they are as an individual and in a democratic free country like the Philippines, each of us is entitled to do so.
FWIW
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Mas mabuti nga sana kung tawagin akong rakista eh, madalas tinatawag sakin Ma'am, Madam, dahil sa haba ng buhok ko, shet sila.
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ang tawag dyan bro, gitarista na basurero.
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so does that mean i do not have the right to wear a Dillinger Escape Plan tshirt to a gig because i do not even know what the hell that band is?
wearing a band shirt is not a summary statement of a persons musical taste. my dad wears my pantera shirts to work, and it certainly does not make him a poser.... he wears it because he feels comfortable wearing it.
yun nga eh, rakista has its stereotypes. its just a label, they way we label a pickup a pickup, a truck a truck, and a sedan a sedan.
in analogy
A pickup the size of a sedan with small wheels should be called a poser car then? :-D
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my point sir is that music is nothing based on what you wear, what you know, and all the high and mighty going on in the music scene pissing on the posers and the kids.
we shouldn't care about the kids wearing makeup and dancing to Fall Out Boy while wearing Sepultura shirts.
they're having fun. its what makes them happy. we should respect them because for them it defines who they are as an individual and in a democratic free country like the Philippines, each of us is entitled to do so.
FWIW
I'm not dissing anyone, what's democracy got to do with this? So with that logic I'm also "entitled" to be offended kapag may tumawag sa akin ng rakista?Tama ba? Entitled din ako to voice out my opinion about posers. It makes me happy.
They are annoying pretentious people, posers. People have every right to wear what the eff they wanna wear but it does sometimes make them look stupid.
In the case of your Dad wearing that Pantera shirt, kaparehong kaso niyan ng nakasabay ko sa palengke na nanay na naka Cradle of Filth na shirt. But then again, baka nakikinig nga si ate ng Cradle of Filth kahit sa age niya na yun. I don't identify posers as I see them, kinakausap ko then I will know.
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classic saying yan lahat: do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.
then proceed from there.
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classic saying yan lahat: do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.
then proceed from there.
lol fiction ito sa moralidad sa internet
kahti sa totoong buhay e
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now lets break this down based from your answers.
I'm not dissing anyone -
read back and you just dissed the posers. Which you defined as -- >"I'm sure most of us encountered someone wearing Vans shoes and a Pantera shirt and they're not in a way involved with that kind of music."
Diss - To show disrespect to, often by insult or criticism (Dictionary.com)
Anyone - Usage Note: The one-word form anyone is used to mean "any person." The two-word form any one is used to mean "whatever one (person or thing) of a group. (Dictionary.com)
basically you dissed posers, so it invalidates your sentence indicating not dissing anyone.
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They are annoying pretentious people, posers. People have every right to wear what the eff they wanna wear but it does sometimes make them look stupid.
Define stupid wearing. In the 50's, wearing shorts was stupid. In the 80's the mullet was cool, nowadays its stupid to wear. Stupid is as subjective as it can go and it morphs with every music generation that passess.
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In the case of your Dad wearing that Pantera shirt, kaparehong kaso niyan ng nakasabay ko sa palengke na nanay na naka Cradle of Filth na shirt. But then again, baka nakikinig nga si ate ng Cradle of Filth kahit sa age niya na yun. I don't identify posers as I see them, kinakausap ko then I will know.
You just ate what you said.
Case in point your statement :
There is such things as posers in anything, people will try to fit in and will not be themselves. I'm sure most of us encountered someone wearing Vans shoes and a Pantera shirt and they're not in a way involved with that kind of music.
highly debatable, but thats in a way a defensive mechanism to say that "I will ask someone before I make a judgement"
thats fine with the daily routine of life.... what about in a gig with 20,000 people?
do you need to ask each and everyone at the gate?
so why all the alta-presyon with the posers, when in context, you define everyone like example... my dad as a poser based on his AGE and shirt prefence? so you just said, without asking and in correct linear context of the paragraph, that you ajudged my dad to be a poser because his shirt does not match his age by idea alone? :-D :-D
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dude my point is simple.
the music scene of the Philippines is crapping on itself because we have elitists everywhere.... the high and mighty who think their music should be only availble to the chosen few ears.
The "posers" deserve a right of the musical pie so-to-speak.
classic saying yan lahat: do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.
then proceed from there.
and this is FTW.
:lol:
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iwanan mo na yang banda mo at mag lawyer ka na lang
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and to end my arguement on the Rakista issue......
When you get old enough and gain enough experience in the music scene you realize its a great marketing hype to label something. It clearly identifies a target audience. The mere fact there is a standing debate here about the word "Rakista" furthers the marketing concept of the word.
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Thats what many Filipinos are good at (me included).
Bantay ng galaw ng ibang tao and comment about it.
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and to end my arguement on the Rakista issue......
When you get old enough and gain enough experience in the music scene you realize its a great marketing hype to label something. It clearly identifies a target audience. The mere fact there is a standing debate here about the word "Rakista" furthers the marketing concept of the word.
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Thats what many Filipinos are good at (me included).
Bantay ng galaw ng ibang tao and comment about it.
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Eh kasi nga cool ang mang-diss. Kayo naman oh. Sanayan lang. Dapat lagi daw merong hierarchy, para masaya. :lol:
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astralasukal check mo crytopsy ng canada, isa sa innovators ng death metal, 10+ years nilang tugtugan yan, malaki respeto sa kanila ng metal community tapos, ngayon iniba nila tugtugan nila sa deathcore na.. irony dahil mga banda ngayon na deathcore e ang isa sa pinaka impluwensya nila sa musika nila ay ang cryptopsy, kaya kahit sa mga totoong rockers may mga.. hindi totoo, ngayon branded sila na sellouts ng mga lumang fans nila
madami din diyan mga nasa ibang banda na kahit hindi nila gusto tugtugan para sa pera
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Eh kasi nga cool ang mang-diss. Kayo naman oh. Sanayan lang. Dapat lagi daw merong hierarchy, para masaya. :lol:
kahit isang beses hindi ka pa nanlait ng kapwa?
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kahit isang beses hindi ka pa nanlait ng kapwa?
Teka, naalala ko... Ah, oo tama. Noong grade six ako. Kupal kasi 'yung kaklase ko eh. Inagaw 'yung NBA cards ko, na-damage tuloy. Nilait ko na lang siya ng todo. :-D
Ngayon, hindi ako nanglalait kasi unang-una wala akong karapatang mang-lait. Ikaw ba?
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kaya nagsasabi ka ng totoo nung sinabi mong cool ang mag diss at sang ayon ka sa opinion niya?
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^Irony. :lol:
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napakabaduy na term nung rakista para sa akin. ewan ko. minsan pa lang ako tinawag na ganun (nanay ko pa), at sobrang nakaka-errr, asiwa pakiramdam.
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kanina sa Rated K tinawag ni Korina si Rico Blanco na BANDISTA hehehehe
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^Ngayon ko lang narinig yun ah hehe
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I really dont like to be called a "Rakista"... maraming associated sa word na yan na ayaw ko...
Metalhead pwede pa nyahaha... :evil:
At sa tingin ko naman naranasan nyo na yung tawagin kayo rakista kahit na alam nyo naman sa puso nyo na hindi...
"ay hindi po, mahilig lang po makinig sa mga banda, di po ako rakista" hahaha mga ganung sagot nalang..
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okay lang pag tinatawag akong rakista pero i prefer musikero :D
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Check the sig. :mrgreen: